RE: Altirs Client Management Suite

2008-11-18 Thread Eric E Eskam
Rod Trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2008 04:12:56 PM:

 Plus, there?s a huge ConfigMgr 2007 community over at 
 myITforum.com that can help you 24x7.  Those other products 
 don?t have that.  Altiris will tell you that they have their 
 Juice community ? but it?s not as active and the Altiris folks 
 don?t monitor it.  At myITforum.com you can generally get an 
 answer to question in minutes, sometimes from a product manager
 at Microsoft.

And Rod's not just being modest because he runs that community :) 

Don't underestimate community support.  The SMS email list at 
myitforum.com is a huge resource (much like this list).

Eric Eskam
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Altirs Client Management Suite

2008-11-12 Thread Devin Meade
Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite?  Its now a symantec product
(strike one).  I have been playing around with it and its much less
intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2).  It seems that to deploy
non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package.  Compared to shavlik or
landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe
reader or flash etc..  That's just my take after about a day of screwing
around with this piece of garbage.  It seems like I will spend more time
working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me
time.  It has a definite NT3.51 feel...  Oh and I can't get the remote
control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh.
-Devin

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RE: Altirs Client Management Suite

2008-11-12 Thread Rod Trent
You should definitely add ConfigMgr 2007 to your short list.

 

Much cheaper than Altiris.  Altiris may seem inexpensive to start out, but
just like LANDesk and others, it gets pretty expensive the more you add to
the product.  ConfigMgr 2007 has it all built in (i.e., you don't have to
purchase more add-ons to make it work).  ConfigMgr 2007 also deploys non-MS
patches and you can deploy anything else you want, too.

 

Plus, there's a huge ConfigMgr 2007 community over at myITforum.com that can
help you 24x7.  Those other products don't have that.  Altiris will tell you
that they have their Juice community - but it's not as active and the
Altiris folks don't monitor it.  At myITforum.com you can generally get an
answer to question in minutes, sometimes from a product manager at
Microsoft.

 

From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Altirs Client Management Suite

 

Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite?  Its now a symantec product
(strike one).  I have been playing around with it and its much less
intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2).  It seems that to deploy
non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package.  Compared to shavlik or
landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe
reader or flash etc..  That's just my take after about a day of screwing
around with this piece of garbage.  It seems like I will spend more time
working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me
time.  It has a definite NT3.51 feel...  Oh and I can't get the remote
control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh.

-Devin


 

 

 

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Altirs Client Management Suite

2008-11-12 Thread Bryan Garmon
Like any systems management tool - the products can be a bit
overwhelming at first - I would highly recommend reaching out to your
local sales rep who I'm sure would be more than happy to assist you
with your experience. Or if you have any specific questions contact me
off list and I'm happy to help.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Devin Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite?  Its now a symantec product
 (strike one).  I have been playing around with it and its much less
 intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2).  It seems that to deploy
 non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package.  Compared to shavlik or
 landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe
 reader or flash etc..  That's just my take after about a day of screwing
 around with this piece of garbage.  It seems like I will spend more time
 working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me
 time.  It has a definite NT3.51 feel...  Oh and I can't get the remote
 control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh.
 -Devin






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Altirs Client Management Suite

2008-11-12 Thread Devin Meade
Rod,

Thanks - I knew you were going to say that:-)  The Juice community is not
very active, I consider that an important part of the equation.  Yes, we are
looing at sccm too.  We don't have Software Assurance, but you can purchase
SCCM outright:
http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/configurationmanager/en/us/pricing-licensing.aspx




On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Rod Trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  You should definitely add ConfigMgr 2007 to your short list.



 Much cheaper than Altiris.  Altiris may seem inexpensive to start out, but
 just like LANDesk and others, it gets pretty expensive the more you add to
 the product.  ConfigMgr 2007 has it all built in (i.e., you don't have to
 purchase more add-ons to make it work).  ConfigMgr 2007 also deploys non-MS
 patches and you can deploy anything else you want, too.



 Plus, there's a huge ConfigMgr 2007 community over at myITforum.com that
 can help you 24x7.  Those other products don't have that.  Altiris will tell
 you that they have their Juice community – but it's not as active and the
 Altiris folks don't monitor it.  At myITforum.com you can generally get an
 answer to question in minutes, sometimes from a product manager at
 Microsoft.



 *From:* Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:04 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Altirs Client Management Suite



 Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite?  Its now a symantec product
 (strike one).  I have been playing around with it and its much less
 intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2).  It seems that to deploy
 non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package.  Compared to shavlik or
 landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe
 reader or flash etc..  That's just my take after about a day of screwing
 around with this piece of garbage.  It seems like I will spend more time
 working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me
 time.  It has a definite NT3.51 feel...  Oh and I can't get the remote
 control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh.

 -Devin















-- 
Devin

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~