RE: Altirs Client Management Suite
Rod Trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 11/12/2008 04:12:56 PM: Plus, there?s a huge ConfigMgr 2007 community over at myITforum.com that can help you 24x7. Those other products don?t have that. Altiris will tell you that they have their Juice community ? but it?s not as active and the Altiris folks don?t monitor it. At myITforum.com you can generally get an answer to question in minutes, sometimes from a product manager at Microsoft. And Rod's not just being modest because he runs that community :) Don't underestimate community support. The SMS email list at myitforum.com is a huge resource (much like this list). Eric Eskam =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The contents of this message are mine personally and do not reflect any position of the U.S. Government The human mind treats a new idea the same way the body treats a strange protein; it rejects it. - P. B. Medawar ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Altirs Client Management Suite
Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite? Its now a symantec product (strike one). I have been playing around with it and its much less intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2). It seems that to deploy non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package. Compared to shavlik or landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe reader or flash etc.. That's just my take after about a day of screwing around with this piece of garbage. It seems like I will spend more time working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me time. It has a definite NT3.51 feel... Oh and I can't get the remote control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh. -Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Altirs Client Management Suite
You should definitely add ConfigMgr 2007 to your short list. Much cheaper than Altiris. Altiris may seem inexpensive to start out, but just like LANDesk and others, it gets pretty expensive the more you add to the product. ConfigMgr 2007 has it all built in (i.e., you don't have to purchase more add-ons to make it work). ConfigMgr 2007 also deploys non-MS patches and you can deploy anything else you want, too. Plus, there's a huge ConfigMgr 2007 community over at myITforum.com that can help you 24x7. Those other products don't have that. Altiris will tell you that they have their Juice community - but it's not as active and the Altiris folks don't monitor it. At myITforum.com you can generally get an answer to question in minutes, sometimes from a product manager at Microsoft. From: Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Altirs Client Management Suite Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite? Its now a symantec product (strike one). I have been playing around with it and its much less intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2). It seems that to deploy non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package. Compared to shavlik or landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe reader or flash etc.. That's just my take after about a day of screwing around with this piece of garbage. It seems like I will spend more time working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me time. It has a definite NT3.51 feel... Oh and I can't get the remote control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh. -Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Altirs Client Management Suite
Like any systems management tool - the products can be a bit overwhelming at first - I would highly recommend reaching out to your local sales rep who I'm sure would be more than happy to assist you with your experience. Or if you have any specific questions contact me off list and I'm happy to help. On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Devin Meade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite? Its now a symantec product (strike one). I have been playing around with it and its much less intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2). It seems that to deploy non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package. Compared to shavlik or landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe reader or flash etc.. That's just my take after about a day of screwing around with this piece of garbage. It seems like I will spend more time working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me time. It has a definite NT3.51 feel... Oh and I can't get the remote control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh. -Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Altirs Client Management Suite
Rod, Thanks - I knew you were going to say that:-) The Juice community is not very active, I consider that an important part of the equation. Yes, we are looing at sccm too. We don't have Software Assurance, but you can purchase SCCM outright: http://www.microsoft.com/systemcenter/configurationmanager/en/us/pricing-licensing.aspx On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Rod Trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should definitely add ConfigMgr 2007 to your short list. Much cheaper than Altiris. Altiris may seem inexpensive to start out, but just like LANDesk and others, it gets pretty expensive the more you add to the product. ConfigMgr 2007 has it all built in (i.e., you don't have to purchase more add-ons to make it work). ConfigMgr 2007 also deploys non-MS patches and you can deploy anything else you want, too. Plus, there's a huge ConfigMgr 2007 community over at myITforum.com that can help you 24x7. Those other products don't have that. Altiris will tell you that they have their Juice community – but it's not as active and the Altiris folks don't monitor it. At myITforum.com you can generally get an answer to question in minutes, sometimes from a product manager at Microsoft. *From:* Devin Meade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:04 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Altirs Client Management Suite Anyone using Altiris Client Management Suite? Its now a symantec product (strike one). I have been playing around with it and its much less intuitive that WSUS3 for MS patching (strike 2). It seems that to deploy non-MS patches, I have to create a custom package. Compared to shavlik or landesk I can just check a box -- it's much more complicated to patch adobe reader or flash etc.. That's just my take after about a day of screwing around with this piece of garbage. It seems like I will spend more time working around the inefficiencies of this product than it would save me time. It has a definite NT3.51 feel... Oh and I can't get the remote control agent to do ANYTHING, sheesh. -Devin -- Devin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~