RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-27 Thread David Lum 
E-mail access, as well as remoting in to their work machines, and they no 
longer use VPN.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


  


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Don Kuhlman 
Cool. I'll go check out the server later on tonight!



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:26:51 PM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

No problem.  SBS actually has it completely setup unless you have disabled it 
or changed it in some way.  You could just go through the wizard and add 
Outlook from Internet option and it will reconfigure IIS for you.
Just 443 to the server.  Outlook goto connections under your Exchange config in 
control panel, set the url to the server (Public fqdn), Change to basic 
authentication and it should connect.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Thanks Greg, I'm going to read up on it.
I appreciate the input!

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:11:58 PM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Outlook RPC over HTTP is built into 2003 Server as well.  Outlook Anywhere was 
basically the name change in Exchange 2007/10 and it added additional 
functionality such as the autodiscover technology.  Lots of 2003 Server using 
it now.

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, Ma

RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread greg.sweers 
No problem.  SBS actually has it completely setup unless you have disabled it 
or changed it in some way.  You could just go through the wizard and add 
Outlook from Internet option and it will reconfigure IIS for you.
Just 443 to the server.  Outlook goto connections under your Exchange config in 
control panel, set the url to the server (Public fqdn), Change to basic 
authentication and it should connect.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Thanks Greg, I'm going to read up on it.
I appreciate the input!

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:11:58 PM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Outlook RPC over HTTP is built into 2003 Server as well.  Outlook Anywhere was 
basically the name change in Exchange 2007/10 and it added additional 
functionality such as the autodiscover technology.  Lots of 2003 Server using 
it now.

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I

Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Don Kuhlman 
Thanks Greg, I'm going to read up on it.
I appreciate the input!

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:11:58 PM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Outlook RPC over HTTP is built into 2003 Server as well.  Outlook Anywhere was 
basically the name change in Exchange 2007/10 and it added additional 
functionality such as the autodiscover technology.  Lots of 2003 Server using 
it now.

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could

RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread greg.sweers 
Exchange license and Outlook license covers it.  If they are on SBS and you 
have the license to cover the user that's all you need.

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Thanks - if I can't get to 2008 as soon as we'd like, I'll have to go back and 
look at Outlook Anywhere.  When I was reading the site on configuring it, it 
said you need a client access server or something like that, but I was only 
skimming over the info.




- Original Message 
From: Michael B. Smith 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 11:05:48 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Outlook Anywhere - also known as RPC/HTTPS - works fine on Exchange 2003.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the 
> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time 
> to upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have 
> found SBS remote access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I lo

RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread greg.sweers 
Outlook RPC over HTTP is built into 2003 Server as well.  Outlook Anywhere was 
basically the name change in Exchange 2007/10 and it added additional 
functionality such as the autodiscover technology.  Lots of 2003 Server using 
it now.

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, p

Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Don Kuhlman 
Thanks - if I can't get to 2008 as soon as we'd like, I'll have to go back and 
look at Outlook Anywhere.  When I was reading the site on configuring it, it 
said you need a client access server or something like that, but I was only 
skimming over the info.



- Original Message 
From: Michael B. Smith 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 11:05:48 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Outlook Anywhere - also known as RPC/HTTPS - works fine on Exchange 2003.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the 
> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time 
> to upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have 
> found SBS remote access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.), and all 
they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and they're using SBS 
to remote in, and they're not looking

RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Michael B. Smith 
Outlook Anywhere - also known as RPC/HTTPS - works fine on Exchange 2003.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the 
> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time 
> to upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have 
> found SBS remote access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.), and all 
they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and they're using SBS 
to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind of filtering, deep 
inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that case, you could use an old PC 
running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running third-party 
firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're looking 
for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
<

Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Don Kuhlman 
We're still running SBS 2003...I have a planned upgrade to SBS 2008 but am 
still waiting on the licensing to get working ;)

Hopefully, when we get to 2008, we can use this vs. local big clients and the 
users will be really happy with their improved email performance...

Thanks for the tip Greg.

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 10:09:38 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


      


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Fin

RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread greg.sweers 
If you are just accessing mail at the home office and all the docs are local, 
why aren't you just doing Outlook Anywhere?



-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


      


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


  


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Ben Scott 
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 8:40 AM,   wrote:
> None of my clients use VPN unless they have too.

  We use our VPN to wrap Remote Desktop.  I think considering the two
technologies as an "either-or" proposition is a common mistake.

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Don Kuhlman 
Ok that's how these folks do it too - that's why I was wondering if there was 
something better than a site to site vpn for the remote locations where we have 
a fileserver/dc but mail still in the home office.
Thanks

Don K



- Original Message 
From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 7:40:09 AM
Subject: RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


      


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


  


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread greg.sweers 
SBS Remote is not VPN.  Its allowing you to access Webmail, and connect to a 
computer inside the office.  The PC must be on, its basically a redirected RDP 
to a computer in the office.  The nice thing is you can configure printer 
redirection, access your computer like you would in the office.  Works for a 
large majority of our customers quite well.  In fact some just have 2 or 3 low 
end laptops stacked in the server room that they use to remote in instead of 
buying a Terminal Server.  None of my clients use VPN unless they have too. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


  


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

SBS Remote Access - was Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Don Kuhlman 
We have been using CheckPoint Sofaware boxes for about 6 years. They're easy to 
use and do everything via wizards, but have  a CLI. Annual renewal is about 
$100 each device. Purchase was about $500 a piece.  Actually just switched the 
main one to a Sonicwall VZ 210 and working through issues with it now.

Just curious Dave. When you said they found SBS remote much faster than VPN, is 
that for email access, or did you used to have site to site VPN, or remote 
access VPN that they have replaced with the SBS remote access?

Don K



- Original Message 
From: David Lum 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall for small biz

Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




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Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
I'll reiterate the Fortigate family of devices...

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, David Lum  wrote:

> Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them
> PCI compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger
> emphasis is plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of
> work/year, so I don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I
> don't really have to (however, they have never had any issue with
> time/expenses I can justify).
>
> The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like
> 2Mbps, upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and
> not hosted elsewhere.
>
> Dave
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> > I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the
> PE840)
> > with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to
> upgrade
> > them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS
> remote
> > access much faster.
> >
> > What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?
>
>   It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected
> load.
>
>  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
> and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
> they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
> of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
> case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
> software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
> third-party firmware like DD-WRT.
>
>  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
> looking for.  :-)
>
> -- Ben
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-25 Thread David Lum 
Sorry about the delay. This client is a law firm and I recently got them PCI 
compliant. I would like filtering and IDS if possible, but bigger emphasis is 
plug and forget - I bill these guys for perhaps 20 hours of work/year, so I 
don't want to spend 3-4hours configuring something if I don't really have to 
(however, they have never had any issue with time/expenses I can justify).

The Internet connection is some ADSL-type (download is something like 2Mbps, 
upload is paltry 512K or something). Their web server is in-house and not 
hosted elsewhere.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~




~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-25 Thread Jay Dale 
Sonicwall TZ210

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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Firewall for small biz

I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840) 
with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade them 
to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote access 
much faster.

What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall? Budget is 
probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have some good links for me to read up 
on? Recommendations? I just watched a McAfee/Gartner on "Next Generation" 
firewalls 
(HERE<http://www.itbriefingcenter.com/programs/gartner_1135_mcafee_bd.html>), 
but some if it seems a bit complex to manage for a small shop.

However I want to be aware of current thinking in SMB firewall/IPS devices.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-22 Thread justino garcia 
PFsense (FreeBSD based), I like it simple to use, and stable (use a
supermicro case 1u, with more then one ethernet jack), and 512mb of ram or
more and you should be fine.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> > I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the
> PE840)
> > with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it’s time to
> upgrade
> > them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS
> remote
> > access much faster.
> >
> > What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?
>
>   It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected
> load.
>
>  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
> and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
> they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
> of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
> case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
> software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
> third-party firmware like DD-WRT.
>
>  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
> looking for.  :-)
>
> -- Ben
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>


-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-21 Thread Ben Scott 
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840)
> with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it’s time to upgrade
> them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote
> access much faster.
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall?

  It really depends on what you're looking to have it do, and the expected load.

  Say it's a typical consumer Internet connection (cable, DSL, etc.),
and all they're doing is web surfing and email and remote access, and
they're using SBS to remote in, and they're not looking for any kind
of filtering, deep inspection, intrusion detection, etc.  In that
case, you could use an old PC running "free" firewall "appliance"
software like IPcop, pfsense, etc.  Or a SOHO gateway running
third-party firmware like DD-WRT.

  If you're looking for more advanced features... tell us what you're
looking for.  :-)

-- Ben

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-21 Thread Andy Shook 
+1 on Fortigate.  I've got hundreds of these throughout the data centers...

Shook

From: Rob Bonfiglio [mailto:robbonfig...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 4:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Firewall for small biz

I was going to suggest looking at Fortigate as well.
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Look at the Fortigate 50 firewall from Fortinet.

Lots of features in the price range you're looking for, and easy configuration.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840) 
with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade them 
to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote access 
much faster.

What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall? Budget is 
probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have some good links for me to read up 
on? Recommendations? I just watched a McAfee/Gartner on "Next Generation" 
firewalls 
(HERE<http://www.itbriefingcenter.com/programs/gartner_1135_mcafee_bd.html>), 
but some if it seems a bit complex to manage for a small shop.

However I want to be aware of current thinking in SMB firewall/IPS devices.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025
// (Cell) 503.267.9764
















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-20 Thread Rob Bonfiglio 
I was going to suggest looking at Fortigate as well.

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Look at the Fortigate 50 firewall from Fortinet.
>
> Lots of features in the price range you're looking for, and easy
> configuration.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker 
>
>
>  On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
>>   I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the
>> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it’s time to
>> upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS
>> remote access much faster.
>>
>>
>>
>> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall? Budget
>> is probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have some good links for me to
>> read up on? Recommendations? I just watched a McAfee/Gartner on “Next
>> Generation” firewalls 
>> (HERE),
>> but some if it seems a bit complex to manage for a small shop.
>>
>>
>>
>> However I want to be aware of current thinking in SMB firewall/IPS
>> devices.
>>
>> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
>> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
>> (Desk) 971.222.1025
>> *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-20 Thread Steve Ens 
Sonicwall TZ-210/190 - easy to manage, fast and reliable.  I have ten of
them all across Canada and they've been excellent.

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the
> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it’s time to
> upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS
> remote access much faster.
>
>
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall? Budget
> is probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have some good links for me to
> read up on? Recommendations? I just watched a McAfee/Gartner on “Next
> Generation” firewalls 
> (HERE),
> but some if it seems a bit complex to manage for a small shop.
>
>
>
> However I want to be aware of current thinking in SMB firewall/IPS devices.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-20 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
Look at the Fortigate 50 firewall from Fortinet.

Lots of features in the price range you're looking for, and easy
configuration.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the
> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it’s time to
> upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS
> remote access much faster.
>
>
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall? Budget
> is probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have some good links for me to
> read up on? Recommendations? I just watched a McAfee/Gartner on “Next
> Generation” firewalls 
> (HERE),
> but some if it seems a bit complex to manage for a small shop.
>
>
>
> However I want to be aware of current thinking in SMB firewall/IPS devices.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-20 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming 
On 20 May 2010 at 10:43, David Lum  wrote:

> I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the
> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it´s time to
> upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS
> remote access much faster. What kinds of things should I look for in a new
> workgroup firewall? Budget is probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have
> some good links for me to read up on? Recommendations? I just watched a
> McAfee/Gartner on "Next Generation" firewalls (HERE), but some if it seems a
> bit complex to manage for a small shop. However I want to be aware of current
> thinking in SMB firewall/IPS devices.

I use IPCop in situations like this.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
Security Blog: http://geoapps.com/





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Re: Firewall for small biz

2010-05-20 Thread Erik Goldoff 
I would still look at the low end Cisco ASA 5505 and the Juniper SSG (
replaced the Netscreen 5GT )

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the
> PE840) with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it’s time to
> upgrade them to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS
> remote access much faster.
>
>
>
> What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall? Budget
> is probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have some good links for me to
> read up on? Recommendations? I just watched a McAfee/Gartner on “Next
> Generation” firewalls 
> (HERE),
> but some if it seems a bit complex to manage for a small shop.
>
>
>
> However I want to be aware of current thinking in SMB firewall/IPS devices.
>
> *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

Firewall for small biz

2010-05-20 Thread David Lum 
I have a 17-user client (one SBS server, same one discussed with the PE840) 
with a 5+yr old SonicWALL SOHO firewall and I believe it's time to upgrade them 
to something more current. They used to VPN but have found SBS remote access 
much faster.

What kinds of things should I look for in a new workgroup firewall? Budget is 
probably in the $500-$700 range. Anyone have some good links for me to read up 
on? Recommendations? I just watched a McAfee/Gartner on "Next Generation" 
firewalls 
(HERE), 
but some if it seems a bit complex to manage for a small shop.

However I want to be aware of current thinking in SMB firewall/IPS devices.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~