Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-22 Thread Don Ely - sc thinks I am a good man...
I shall...
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From: "Steven M. Caesare" 
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:57:44 
To: NT System Admin Issues
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Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM 
recommondation

Wear that one proudly.

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely - sc thinks I am a good man... [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

How nice of you to recognize it... Lol

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From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:45:03 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

You are a good man, Don Ely Despite your display name.

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

I will take this empowerment very seriously...

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From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:42:15 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Yep Letterman is on... :)

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From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

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From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-22 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Wear that one proudly.

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely - sc thinks I am a good man... [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

How nice of you to recognize it... Lol

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From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:45:03 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

You are a good man, Don Ely Despite your display name.

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

I will take this empowerment very seriously...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:42:15 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Yep Letterman is on... :)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-22 Thread Martin Blackstone
You mean They really blow through them at first.

 

From: Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 6:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

 

We started buying diapers/wipes several months ahead of the birth of our 
triplets. It was only a little addition to each shopping trip, but helped ease 
the financial burden when they showed up. Stick to size newborn/1/2. They 
really go through them at first.



 

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Maglinger, Paul  wrote:

You better be catching up on as many diapers as possible.

 

From: Tony Patton [mailto:apco...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm trying 
to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a six-year 
old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins  wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-22 Thread Robert Cato
We started buying diapers/wipes several months ahead of the birth of our
triplets. It was only a little addition to each shopping trip, but helped
ease the financial burden when they showed up. Stick to size newborn/1/2.
They really go through them at first.



On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:

>  You better be catching up on as many diapers as possible.
>
>
>
> *From:* Tony Patton [mailto:apco...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:33 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
> trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)
>
> On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>
> Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own
>
> I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
> six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.
>
>
>
> On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins 
> wrote:
> >
> > Holy cow! I can't...
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
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>
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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-22 Thread Maglinger, Paul
You better be catching up on as many diapers as possible.

 

From: Tony Patton [mailto:apco...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 1:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-22 Thread James Rankin
My twin boys were due Christmas Eve. They arrived on the 8th.

For the first three months, you will feel like you are going completely
psychotic through lack of sleep. Or possibly longer. And after that, you
will wonder what you ever used to do with spare time.

Enjoy!

On 22 September 2010 11:31, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> LOL
>
> Congrats, but it won't help.  :)
>
> *ASB *
> * *
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Tony Patton  wrote:
>
>> My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
>> trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)
>>
>> On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>>
>> Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own
>>
>> I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
>> six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Holy cow! I can't...
>> --
>> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
>> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
>> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
>> a question."
>>
>>
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-- 
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the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-22 Thread Andrew S. Baker
LOL

Congrats, but it won't help.  :)

*ASB *
* *
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Tony Patton  wrote:

> My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
> trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)
>
> On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>
> Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own
>
> I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
> six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.
>
>
>
> On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins 
> wrote:
> >
> > Holy cow! I can't...
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Don Ely - sc thinks I am a good man...
How nice of you to recognize it...  Lol
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Steven M. Caesare" 
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:45:03 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM 
recommondation

You are a good man, Don Ely Despite your display name.

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

I will take this empowerment very seriously...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:42:15 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Yep Letterman is on... :)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Me too!

 

OK, 3am, bed time...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Fortunatly I have the day off tomorrow... only 11:55pm tho

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

You are a good man, Don Ely Despite your display name.

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:43 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

I will take this empowerment very seriously...

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From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:42:15 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Yep Letterman is on... :)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Steven Peck
Fortunatly I have the day off tomorrow... only 11:55pm tho

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  You are a good man, Don Ely…. Despite your display name.
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:43 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> I will take this empowerment very seriously...
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  --
>
> *From: *"Steven M. Caesare" 
>
> *Date: *Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:42:15 -0400
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Yep Letterman is on... :)
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  --
>
> *From: *"Steven M. Caesare" 
>
> *Date: *Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Make that 2:35…
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> So it seems…
>
>
>
> -sc ß2:25am and counting…
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Sleep is overrated...
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  --
>
> *From: *Tony Patton 
>
> *Date: *Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
> trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)
>
> On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>
> Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own
>
> I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
> six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.
>
>
>
> On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins 
> wrote:
> >
> > Holy cow! I can't...
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
>
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> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.c...
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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Steven M. Caesare
You are a good man, Don Ely Despite your display name.

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

I will take this empowerment very seriously...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:42:15 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Yep Letterman is on... :)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Don Ely so sc will stop complaining
I will take this empowerment very seriously...
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Steven M. Caesare" 
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:42:15 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM 
recommondation

You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Yep Letterman is on... :)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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~
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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Steven M. Caesare
You can be in charge of forwarding the Top 10 list..

 

-sc

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Yep Letterman is on... :)

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: "Steven M. Caesare"  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Well, there was only 4 minutes between those messages when I realized
the typo... so no. ;)

 

-sc

 

From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Are we getting one of these every 10 minutes? :)

 

-Anders

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM 


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation 

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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~
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Anders Blomgren
Are we getting one of these every 10 minutes? :)

-Anders

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

>  Make that 2:35…
>
>
>
> -sc
>
>
>
> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> So it seems…
>
>
>
> -sc ß2:25am and counting…
>
>
>
> *From:* Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Sleep is overrated...
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>  --
>
> *From: *Tony Patton 
>
> *Date: *Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
> trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)
>
> On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:
>
> Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own
>
> I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
> six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.
>
>
>
> On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins 
> wrote:
> >
> > Holy cow! I can't...
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
> the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
> rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
> a question."
>
>
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Don Ely so sc will stop complaining
Yep Letterman is on...  :)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: "Steven M. Caesare" 
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 02:37:43 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM 
recommondation

Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Make that 2:35...

 

-sc

 

From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Steven M. Caesare
So it seems...

 

-sc <--2:25am and counting...

 

From: Don Ely so sc will stop complaining [mailto:don@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 2:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Sleep is overrated...

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry



From: Tony Patton  

Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 +0100

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin" 
wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already
had a six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins
 wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...

-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you
put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I
am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question."



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Don Ely so sc will stop complaining
Sleep is overrated...
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Tony Patton 
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:33:05 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM 
recommondation

My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins  wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...
-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."



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Re: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Tony Patton
+ 100

On 20 Sep 2010 15:19, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  wrote:

 [Political RANT on entitlements:] BEGIN



[There are safe & reversible medical procedures that would cure that problem
for a FRACTION of the cost.]

[I’d say 3 strikes and you’re out.]

[If you’re going to parent multiple children and abandon each of them, then
ability to create them needs to be taken away.]

[It is one thing to parent half a dozen or more and support them yourself,
but it is entirely another to expect the community and government to do it
for you.]

[I’m sick and tired of CAPABLE individuals living off of my hard earned tax
dollar.]



END [Political RANT on entitlements]



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@...
 --

*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:47 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation



On this sort of subject, check this deadbeat out



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8012357/Man-set-to-have-tenth-child-by-ten-different-women..
..



On 20 September 2010 14:42, Sean Rector  wrote:



<--- 7 kids, 6 girls…’nuff said



Sean Rector, MCSE



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-21 Thread Tony Patton
My wife is expecting twin boys around the week leading up to Xmas, I'm
trying to catch up on as much sleep as possible on preparation :)

On 20 Sep 2010 14:42, "James Rankin"  wrote:

Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.



On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins  wrote:
>
> Holy cow! I can't...
-- 
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question."



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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread Jon Harris
Thank God I did not have to face that!  I feel for you though.

Jon

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:30 AM,  wrote:

>
> Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with
> teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when
> they are hitting puberty...
>
> That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both of
> them did.)
> --
> richard
>
> "Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:
>
>
> > Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time…   J
>
> >
> > From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there
> > done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
> >
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread James Rankin
This is the UK. The only place where the stupid, unproductive and useless
multiply tenfold, and the brightest and most capable have ever smaller
families. All subsidised by the government. It is actually the process of
reverse evolution - devolution, if you will - in action.

Anyway no more political rants :-)

On 20 September 2010 15:19, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle wrote:

>  [Political RANT on entitlements:] BEGIN
>
>
>
> [There are safe & reversible medical procedures that would cure that
> problem for a FRACTION of the cost.]
>
> [I’d say 3 strikes and you’re out.]
>
> [If you’re going to parent multiple children and abandon each of them, then
> ability to create them needs to be taken away.]
>
> [It is one thing to parent half a dozen or more and support them yourself,
> but it is entirely another to expect the community and government to do it
> for you.]
>
> [I’m sick and tired of CAPABLE individuals living off of my hard earned tax
> dollar.]
>
>
>
> END [Political RANT on entitlements]
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>   --
>
> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:47 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> On this sort of subject, check this deadbeat out
>
>
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8012357/Man-set-to-have-tenth-child-by-ten-different-women.html
>
> I'm ashamed to say he comes from a town not far from me
>
> On 20 September 2010 14:42, Sean Rector  wrote:
>
> <--- 7 kids, 6 girls…’nuff said
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> *From:* William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:39 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my
> experience doesn't cover the experience of twins.
>
> My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly)
> intact. :)
>
>
> WJR
> - from my Crackberry.
>
> "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
>  --
>
> *From: *richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> *Date: *Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 -0500
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
>
> Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with
> teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when
> they are hitting puberty...
>
> That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both of
> them did.)
> --
> richard
>
> "Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:
>
> > Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time…   J
> >
> > From: Jon Harris 
> > [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]<%5bmailto:jk.har...@gmail.com%5d>
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there
> > done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
> >
>
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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
[Political RANT on entitlements:] BEGIN

[There are safe & reversible medical procedures that would cure that problem 
for a FRACTION of the cost.]
[I'd say 3 strikes and you're out.]
[If you're going to parent multiple children and abandon each of them, then 
ability to create them needs to be taken away.]
[It is one thing to parent half a dozen or more and support them yourself, but 
it is entirely another to expect the community and government to do it for you.]
[I'm sick and tired of CAPABLE individuals living off of my hard earned tax 
dollar.]

END [Political RANT on entitlements]

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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

On this sort of subject, check this deadbeat out

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8012357/Man-set-to-have-tenth-child-by-ten-different-women.html

I'm ashamed to say he comes from a town not far from me
On 20 September 2010 14:42, Sean Rector 
mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org>> wrote:
<--- 7 kids, 6 girls...'nuff said

Sean Rector, MCSE

From: William J. Robbins 
[mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com<mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:39 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my 
experience doesn't cover the experience of twins.

My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly) intact. 
:)

WJR
- from my Crackberry.

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."


From: richardmccl...@aspca.org<mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 -0500
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesmailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with 
teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when they 
are hitting puberty...

That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both of 
them did.)
--
richard

"Maglinger, Paul" mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com>> wrote on 
09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:

> Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time...   J
>
> From: Jon Harris 
> [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]<mailto:%5bmailto:jk.har...@gmail.com%5d>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
> What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there
> done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
>

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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread Sean Rector
Nope...2nd youngest.

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Lemme guess - the boy is the youngest?

 

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From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

<--- 7 kids, 6 girls...'nuff said

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my 
experience doesn't cover the experience of twins. 

My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly) intact. 
:)


WJR
- from my Crackberry.

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 

Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 -0500

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 


Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with 
teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when they 
are hitting puberty... 

That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both of 
them did.) 
-- 
richard 

"Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:

> Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time...   J 
>   
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
> <mailto:%5bmailto:jk.har...@gmail.com%5d>  
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation 
>   
> What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there 
> done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it. 
>   

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread James Rankin
On this sort of subject, check this deadbeat out

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8012357/Man-set-to-have-tenth-child-by-ten-different-women.html

I'm ashamed to say he comes from a town not far from me

On 20 September 2010 14:42, Sean Rector  wrote:

> <--- 7 kids, 6 girls…’nuff said
>
>
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
>
>
> *From:* William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 9:39 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my
> experience doesn't cover the experience of twins.
>
> My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly)
> intact. :)
>
>
> WJR
> - from my Crackberry.
>
> "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
> --
>
> *From: *richardmccl...@aspca.org
>
> *Date: *Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 -0500
>
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
>
> *ReplyTo: *"NT System Admin Issues"  >
>
> *Subject: *RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
>
> Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with
> teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when
> they are hitting puberty...
>
> That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both of
> them did.)
> --
> richard
>
> "Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:
>
> > Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time…   J
> >
> > From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there
> > done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
> >
>
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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Lemme guess - the boy is the youngest?


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From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

<--- 7 kids, 6 girls...'nuff said

Sean Rector, MCSE

From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my 
experience doesn't cover the experience of twins.

My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly) intact. 
:)

WJR
- from my Crackberry.

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."


From: richardmccl...@aspca.org
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issues
ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with 
teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when they 
are hitting puberty...

That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both of 
them did.)
--
richard

"Maglinger, Paul" mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com>> wrote on 
09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:

> Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time...   J
>
> From: Jon Harris 
> [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]<mailto:%5bmailto:jk.har...@gmail.com%5d>
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
> What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there
> done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
>

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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread Sean Rector
<--- 7 kids, 6 girls...'nuff said

 

Sean Rector, MCSE

 

From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my
experience doesn't cover the experience of twins. 

My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly)
intact. :)


WJR
- from my Crackberry.

"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."



From: richardmccl...@aspca.org 

Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 -0500

To: NT System Admin Issues

ReplyTo: "NT System Admin Issues"


Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 


Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with
teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just
when they are hitting puberty... 

That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both
of them did.) 
-- 
richard 

"Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:

> Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time...   J 
>   
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation 
>   
> What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there 
> done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it. 
>   

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread James Rankin
Twins rock...but I couldn't imagine coping with mine on my own

I met a couple last week who had quintuplets. And they already had a
six-year old. The thought of that made me shiver.

On 20 September 2010 14:39, William J. Robbins  wrote:

> Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my
> experience doesn't cover the experience of twins.
>
> My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly)
> intact. :)
>
>
> WJR
> - from my Crackberry.
>
> "If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
> --
> *From: * richardmccl...@aspca.org
> *Date: *Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 -0500
> *To: *NT System Admin Issues
> *ReplyTo: * "NT System Admin Issues" <
> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> *Subject: *RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with
> teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when
> they are hitting puberty...
>
> That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both of
> them did.)
> --
> richard
>
> "Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:
>
> > Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time…   J
> >
> > From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there
> > done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
> >
>
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread William J. Robbins
Holy cow! I can't imagine. I have one daughter. I know that doubling my 
experience doesn't cover the experience of twins. 

My hats off to you sir. Congrats on everyone making it through (mostly) intact. 
:)
 
WJR
 - from my Crackberry.

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-Original Message-
From: richardmccl...@aspca.org
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 08:30:40 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: RE: OT the OT OT KVM 
recommondation

Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with 
teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when 
they are hitting puberty...

That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both 
of them did.)
--
richard

"Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:

> Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time?   J
> 
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> 
> What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there 
> done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
> 

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread James Kerr
  Man, I suppose that must have been pretty rough.

On 9/20/2010 9:30 AM, richardmccl...@aspca.org wrote:
>
> Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND 
> with teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters 
> just when they are hitting puberty...
>
> That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, 
> both of them did.)
> -- 
> richard
>
> "Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:
>
> > Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time...   J
> >
> > From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there
> > done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
> >
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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread RichardMcClary
Jon's wording is a bit ambiguous, but I found myself unmarried AND with 
teanagers at home.  Imagine a guy left alone with twin daughters just when 
they are hitting puberty...

That was 16 years ago, and I've still not recovered!  (Forutnately, both 
of them did.)
--
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"Maglinger, Paul"  wrote on 09/20/2010 08:05:23 AM:

> Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time?   J
> 
> From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> 
> What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there 
> done that and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.
> 

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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-20 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Having children seemed like such a good idea at the time...   J

 

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 6:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there done that 
and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.

 

Jon

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

Thank you, thank you! 

 

I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets. 

ASB
 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh  
wrote:

I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not 
sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the 
team any day.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good 
times.


Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>
> -ASB

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-18 Thread Jonathan Link
That's some bad editing there, Angus.  I didn't write that. :-)

On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming wrote:

> On 17 Sep 2010 at 11:09, Jonathan Link  wrote:
>
> > On another note, where´s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
> POETS -- P*ss On Everything, Tomorrow's Saturday.
>
> Just a little better than "Sure Happy It's Thursday."
>
> ;-)
>
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Angus Scott-Fleming
 wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2010 at 12:33, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>
>> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the
>> streets.
>
> As long as it isn't violins in the streets.

  And sax on TV, and youth in Asia.

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 17 Sep 2010 at 11:09, Jonathan Link  wrote:

> On another note, where´s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

POETS -- P*ss On Everything, Tomorrow's Saturday.

Just a little better than "Sure Happy It's Thursday."

;-)


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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 17 Sep 2010 at 12:33, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the 
> streets.

As long as it isn't violins in the streets.

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jon Harris
What you are not married with teenagers at home?  Sorry been there done that
and wonder WTF did I ever do to deserve it.

Jon

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Thank you, thank you!
>
> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the
> streets.
>
> *ASB*
> * *
>  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh <
> k...@colonialsavings.com> wrote:
>
>> I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
>> sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
>> As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
>> any day.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>   Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>>
>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>> animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>> > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>> >
>> > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
>> > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>> >
>> > -ASB
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
LOL!!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
 wrote:
> "Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" - (says the HP switch from within a 
> largely Cisco network)
>
>
>
>
> "But I'm not dead yet!" - 3Com
>
> "Don't worry, you will be!" - HP to 3Com
>
>
>
>
> "she turned me into a newt!" (Cisco says excitedly about HP)
>
> "You look alright to me..." (HP Procurve net admin)
>
> "I got better..." (Cisco sheepishly...)
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
> "I thought this was an Argument!?"
> "No, this is Abuse!"
> --Monty Python, Argument skit
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: Andrew S. Baker
> [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2010
> 09:33:48 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>> Thank you, thank you!
>>
>> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.
>>
>> *ASB*
>> * *
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
>> > sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
>> > As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
>> > any day.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>> >
>> > Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>> > animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>> >
>> >
>> > Bill
>> >
>> > Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>> > > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>> > >
>> > > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
>> > > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>> > >
>> > > -ASB
>> >
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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>> On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special this
> week.  Didn't you notice?

/cue slow chuckle building to a true LOL

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread James Kerr
Of course I totally agree, however, I never said In was looking for a cheap 
KVM, just a simple one that works. I really don't need an IP KVM but now that I 
have looked at what they can do they seem pretty cool but my servers are not 
far and I rarely have to do any work on them that I can't do remotely. If I do 
I can just pull it and work on it in my office, I only manage 10 servers, 8 
here and two in another county. Is it Friday yet?


James
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:08 AM
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation


  Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You hit 
the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very brief 
post. Someone saying, "I just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap 
option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?" Well for some applications, it 
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said device and how 
much frustration you're willing to live with.

   

  On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!

   

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com 


--

  From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

   

  Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.  Across 
classes, as opposed to within the class.

   

  That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from 
the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

   

  However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within the 
tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost alone to be 
insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

   

  I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest 
end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that 
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the 
differentiator.

   

  While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago, 
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But they 
were in the same enterprise level class... :)

  And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



  ASB (My XeeSM Profile) 
  Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...
   

  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 wrote:

  LOL, +1

  Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 
or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

  Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

  Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please 
excuse brevity & any misspellings.

  - Reply message -
  From: "Jonathan Link" 
  Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

  To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

  What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:

  Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.

  -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>


  Sent from my Motorola Droid

  On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
  I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@e...

  -Original Message-

  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>]

  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

  My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
  you must have thought I wa...

  - Original Message -

  From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
  To: "NT System Admin...

  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

  --Matt Ross
  Ephrata School District


  ----- Original Message -
  From: James Kerr

  [mailto:clusterp.<mailto:clusterp.>..

  Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

  11:31:45 -0700
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
  >
  >

  > - Original Message -

  > From: "Matt

RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
Dare I say that I have much greater faith in you keeping your promises than I 
do in certain other groups and individuals that are currently dominating high 
positions?

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

 

Thank you, thank you!

 

I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.

ASB
 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh  
wrote:

I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not sensitive 
enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team any 
day.


-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>
> -ASB

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jeff Steward
Well done, I was *that* close to having to clean coffee off my monitor :)

-Jeff Steward

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

> "Latent racism?"
>
> If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
> with a multimedia footer appended to it.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>>
>>  - WJR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>>>>
>>>> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
>>>> this week.  Didn't you notice?
>>>>
>>>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>>> <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>> >
>>>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>>>> jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
>>>>Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
>>>>was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
>>>>just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
>>>>Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
>>>>might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
>>>>device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>>>Technology Coordinator
>>>>Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
>>>>_
>>>>jra...@eaglemds.com_
>>>>_www.eaglemds.com
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>>>><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
>>>>*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>>*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
>>>>for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
>>>>enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
>>>>correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
>>>>within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
>>>>possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
>>>>quality or value.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
>>>>very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
>>>>few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
>>>>price is not always the differentiator.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
>>>>years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
>>>>better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
>>>>    class... :)
>>>>
>>>>And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>>> <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>> >
>>>>**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
>>>>** **
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>>>mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>LOL, +1
>>>>
>&

RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!" - (says the HP switch from within a largely 
Cisco network)




"But I'm not dead yet!" - 3Com

"Don't worry, you will be!" - HP to 3Com




"she turned me into a newt!" (Cisco says excitedly about HP)

"You look alright to me..." (HP Procurve net admin)

"I got better..." (Cisco sheepishly...)



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 12:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

"I thought this was an Argument!?"
"No, this is Abuse!"
--Monty Python, Argument skit

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


> Thank you, thank you!
>
> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.
>
> *ASB*
> * *
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
> wrote:
>
> > I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
> > sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
> > As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
> > any day.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
> > animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> > > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
> > >
> > > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> > > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
> > >
> > > -ASB
> >
>
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Matthew W. Ross
"I thought this was an Argument!?"
"No, this is Abuse!"
--Monty Python, Argument skit

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 17 Sep 2010
09:33:48 -0700
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation


> Thank you, thank you!
> 
> I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.
> 
> *ASB*
> * *
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
> wrote:
> 
> > I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
> > sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
> > As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
> > any day.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
> >
> > Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
> > animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> > > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
> > >
> > > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> > > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
> > >
> > > -ASB
> >
> 
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Thank you, thank you!

I promise an argument in every home, and incessant bickering in the streets.

*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
wrote:

> I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not
> sensitive enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
> As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team
> any day.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation
>
> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
> animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>
>
> Bill
>
> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> > >>On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
> >
> > You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week
> > special this week.  Didn't you notice?
> >
> > -ASB
>

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Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
LOL Well played, sir.  Well played indeed.

*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

> "Latent racism?"
>
> If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
> with a multimedia footer appended to it.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>>
>>  - WJR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
 >>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

 You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
 this week.  Didn't you notice?

 -ASB



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RE: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
I have to confess I missed the latent racism part.  Either I'm not sensitive 
enough, too good-natured, or too naïve.
As far as debate team tryouts, I'd vote for ASB as president of the team any 
day.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.


Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> */>>/**/On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>
> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week 
> special this week.  Didn't you notice?
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
> mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>
> Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
> Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
> was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, "I
> just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
> Why do I need to spend $x,000?" Well for some applications, it
> might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
> device and how much frustration you're willing to live with.
>
>  
>
> On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
>  
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
> _
> jra...@eaglemds.com_
> _www.eaglemds.com
> 
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
> <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>  
>
> Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
> for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>
>  
>
> That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
> enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
> correct.
>
>  
>
> However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
> within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
> possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
> quality or value.
>
>  
>
> I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
> very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
> few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
> price is not always the differentiator.
>
>  
>
> While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
> years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
> better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
> class... :)
>
> And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>
>
>
> **ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
> **Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>
> LOL, +1
>
> Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
> more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
> concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
> what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
>  :-)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
> Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jonathan Link"  <mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
> Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>  <mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
>
> What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>  <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
> <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
>  A little.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
ROFLMAO!

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Sean Martin wrote:

> "Latent racism?"
>
> If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
> with a multimedia footer appended to it.
>
> - Sean
>
>   On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins 
> wrote:
>
>> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>>
>>  - WJR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill
>>>
>>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>>>>
>>>> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
>>>> this week.  Didn't you notice?
>>>>
>>>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>>> <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>> >
>>>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>>>> jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
>>>>Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
>>>>was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
>>>>just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
>>>>Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
>>>>might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
>>>>device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>>>Technology Coordinator
>>>>Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
>>>>_
>>>>jra...@eaglemds.com_
>>>>_www.eaglemds.com
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>>>><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
>>>>*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>>*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
>>>>for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
>>>>enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
>>>>correct.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
>>>>within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
>>>>possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
>>>>quality or value.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
>>>>very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
>>>>few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
>>>>price is not always the differentiator.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
>>>>years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
>>>>better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
>>>>    class... :)
>>>>
>>>>And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>>> <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>> >
>>>>**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
>>>>** **
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>>>mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>LOL, +1
>>>>
>>>>Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of u

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Sean Martin
"Latent racism?"

If you're using HP switches, the racism would arrive without delay complete
with a multimedia footer appended to it.

- Sean

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:21 AM, William Robbins wrote:

> *Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.
>
>  - WJR
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries wrote:
>
>> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.
>>  animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>
>>> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>>>
>>> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
>>> this week.  Didn't you notice?
>>>
>>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>> <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>> >
>>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>>> * *
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>>> jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
>>>Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
>>>was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
>>>just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
>>>Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
>>>might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
>>>device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>>>
>>>
>>>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>>>
>>>
>>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>>Technology Coordinator
>>>    Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
>>>_
>>>jra...@eaglemds.com_
>>>_www.eaglemds.com
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>>><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
>>>*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>>>
>>>
>>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>>
>>>
>>>Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
>>>for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>>>
>>>
>>>That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
>>>enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
>>>correct.
>>>
>>>
>>>However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
>>>within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
>>>possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
>>>quality or value.
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
>>>very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
>>>few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
>>>price is not always the differentiator.
>>>
>>>
>>>While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
>>>years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
>>>better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
>>>class... :)
>>>
>>>And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) 
>>> <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>>> >
>>>**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
>>>** **
>>>
>>>On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>>mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>LOL, +1
>>>
>>>Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
>>>more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
>>>concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
>>>what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>>
>>>Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
>>>Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>>
>>>---

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread William Robbins
*Latent* racism?  You don't know the half of it...yet.

 - WJR


On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:06, Bill Humphries  wrote:

> Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  animation,
> email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.
>
>
> Bill
>
> Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>
>> */>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*
>>
>> You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special
>> this week.  Didn't you notice?
>>
>> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
>> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
>> * *
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
>> jra...@eaglemds.com <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>
>>Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
>>Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
>>was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
>>just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
>>Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
>>might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
>>device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>>
>>
>>On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>>
>>
>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>Technology Coordinator
>>Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
>>_
>>jra...@eaglemds.com_
>>_www.eaglemds.com
>>
>>  ------------
>>
>>*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
>>*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>>
>>
>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>*Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>
>>Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
>>for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>>
>>
>>That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
>>enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
>>correct.
>>
>>
>>However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
>>within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
>>possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
>>quality or value.
>>
>>
>>I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
>>very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
>>few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
>>price is not always the differentiator.
>>
>>
>>While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
>>years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
>>better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
>>class... :)
>>
>>And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>>
>>
>>
>>**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
>>**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
>>** **
>>
>>On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
>>
>>LOL, +1
>>
>>Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
>>more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
>>concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
>>what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
>> :-)
>>
>>Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>>
>>Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
>>Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>>
>>- Reply message -
>>From: "Jonathan Link" ><mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
>>Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>>
>>Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>To: "NT System Admin Issues"
>>><mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
>>
>>What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>>
>>On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
>>><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
>><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
>> A little.
>>
>>-ASB: http://X

Re: OT the OT OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Bill Humphries
Yeah, keeping up with the list this week has been entertaining.  
animation, email footers, latent racism, debate team tryouts.  good times.



Bill

Andrew S. Baker wrote:

*/>>/**/On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!/*

You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week 
special this week.  Didn't you notice?


*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:


Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to
Avovent/Raritan. You hit the nail on the head by detailing what I
was trying to convey in my very brief post. Someone saying, “I
just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt cheap option here]?
Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some applications, it
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said
device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.

 


On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!

 


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA_
_
jra...@eaglemds.com_
_www.eaglemds.com


*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
*Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
    *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation

 


Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay
for.  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.

 


That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different
enough from the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is
correct.

 


However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device --
within the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is
possible for cost alone to be insufficient as a determinant of
quality or value.

 


I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the
very lowest end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a
few others play in that consumer/SOHO space, and within that space
price is not always the differentiator.

 


While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today,
years ago, Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of
better quality.  But they were in the same enterprise level
class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



**ASB **(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
**Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...**
** **

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:

LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage
more than 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely
concur that in the area of KVM, you will usually, generally get
what you pay forI am open to evidence supporting the contrary.
 :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid.
Please excuse brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

To: "NT System Admin Issues"
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com
<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>> wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.
 A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>


Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com><mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com
<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>> wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky.
(Isn't that who makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com><mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>>]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the
Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -

From: "Matthew W. Ross" mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org><mailto:

Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*>>**On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!*

You actually need a Friday one?  We've been running an all week special this
week.  Didn't you notice?

*ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
*Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
* *
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You
> hit the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very
> brief post. Someone saying, “I just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt
> cheap option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some
> applications, it might be fine, but it all depends on the application of
> said device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>
>
>
> On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *
> jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>   --
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.
>  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>
>
>
> That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from
> the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.
>
>
>
> However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within
> the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost
> alone to be insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.
>
>
>
> I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest
> end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that
> consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the
> differentiator.
>
>
>
> While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago,
> Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But
> they were in the same enterprise level class... :)
>
> And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> LOL, +1
>
> Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than
> 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the
> area of KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open
> to evidence supporting the contrary.  :-)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jonathan Link" 
> Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker  <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
> little.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>
>
> Sent from my Motorola Droid
>
> On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
> I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
> who makes OmniView?)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@e...
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
> >]
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...
>
> My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
> you must have thought I wa...
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Matthew W. Ross"  mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
> To: "NT System Admin...
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
>
>

RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
I never saw anyswitchthread

Oh, the light just came on...

There, that's better...


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

You haven't been following the Switch opinions thread?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You hit 
the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very brief 
post. Someone saying, "I just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap 
option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?" Well for some applications, it 
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said device and how 
much frustration you're willing to live with.

On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.  Across 
classes, as opposed to within the class.

That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from the 
ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within the 
tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost alone to be 
insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest end 
of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that 
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the 
differentiator.

While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago, 
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But they 
were in the same enterprise level class... :)
And I still greatly prefer Avocent.


ASB (My XeeSM Profile)<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 or 
4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.
-ASB: 
http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker><http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>

Sent from my Motorola Droid
On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com><mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>>
 wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr 
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com><mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>>]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org><mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>>
To: "NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata Sc

Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
You haven't been following the Switch opinions thread?

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

>  Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You
> hit the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very
> brief post. Someone saying, “I just need a KVM, why can’t I buy [insert dirt
> cheap option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?” Well for some
> applications, it might be fine, but it all depends on the application of
> said device and how much frustration you’re willing to live with.
>
>
>
> On another note, where’s our Friday Funny? TGIF!
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA*
> *
> jra...@eaglemds.com*
> *www.eaglemds.com
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.
>  Across classes, as opposed to within the class.
>
>
>
> That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from
> the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.
>
>
>
> However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within
> the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost
> alone to be insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.
>
>
>
> I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest
> end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that
> consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the
> differentiator.
>
>
>
> While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago,
> Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But
> they were in the same enterprise level class... :)
>
> And I still greatly prefer Avocent.
>
>
>
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
> jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:
>
> LOL, +1
>
> Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than
> 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the
> area of KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open
> to evidence supporting the contrary.  :-)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jonathan Link" 
> Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
>
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker  <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
> little.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker><
> http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>
>
> Sent from my Motorola Droid
>
> On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
> I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
> who makes OmniView?)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@e...
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
> >]
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...
>
> My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
> you must have thought I wa...
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Matthew W. Ross"  mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
> To: "NT System Admin...
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
>
> [mailto:clusterp.<mailto:clusterp.>..
>
> Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
>
> 11:31:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> &g

RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
Agreed that it is not not fair to compare Belkin to Avovent/Raritan. You hit 
the nail on the head by detailing what I was trying to convey in my very brief 
post. Someone saying, "I just need a KVM, why can't I buy [insert dirt cheap 
option here]? Why do I need to spend $x,000?" Well for some applications, it 
might be fine, but it all depends on the application of said device and how 
much frustration you're willing to live with.

On another note, where's our Friday Funny? TGIF!


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 10:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.  Across 
classes, as opposed to within the class.

That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from the 
ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within the 
tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost alone to be 
insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest end 
of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that 
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the 
differentiator.

While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago, 
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But they 
were in the same enterprise level class... :)
And I still greatly prefer Avocent.


ASB (My XeeSM Profile)<http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 or 
4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>>
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com><mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>>>
 wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.
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On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com><mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>>>
 wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@e...

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From: James Kerr 
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com><mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>>]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

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From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org><mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>>
To: "NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: James Kerr
[mailto:clusterp<mailto:clusterp>.<mailto:clusterp<mailto:clusterp>.>..

Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


> Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
>
>

> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org><mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org<mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>>
> To: "NT System...

> 
> >
> > Any medic...

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security th

Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Across classes of equipment, you will typically get what you pay for.
 Across classes, as opposed to within the class.

That is to say, MOST servers that cost $1000-3000 are different enough from
the ones costing $6000-$15000 that the sentiment is correct.

However, *within* the same class of system or machine or device -- within
the tier 1 level, or within the tier 2 level -- it is possible for cost
alone to be insufficient as a determinant of quality or value.

I'd never compare a Belkin with an Avocent, except maybe at the very lowest
end of the Avocent line.TrendNet, Belkin, and a few others play in that
consumer/SOHO space, and within that space price is not always the
differentiator.

While Avocent and Raritan are much more price comparable today, years ago,
Cybex/Avocent was better priced that Raritan AND of better quality.  But
they were in the same enterprise level class... :)

And I still greatly prefer Avocent.



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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

> LOL, +1
>
> Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than
> 3 or 4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the
> area of KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open
> to evidence supporting the contrary.  :-)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE
>
> Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please
> excuse brevity & any misspellings.
>
> - Reply message -
> From: "Jonathan Link" 
> Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>
> What, they only lockup the server once a month now?
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker  <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
> little.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>
> Sent from my Motorola Droid
>
> On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle"  <mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
> I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
> who makes OmniView?)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@e...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com
> >]
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...
>
> My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
> you must have thought I wa...
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew W. Ross"  mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
> To: "NT System Admin...
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
> [mailto:clusterp.<mailto:clusterp.>..
>
> Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
>
> 11:31:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
> >
> >
>
> > - Original Message -
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> > To: "NT System...
>
> >
> 
> > >
> > > Any medic...
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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
LOL, +1

Unlike the Cisco/HP discussion, I believe most of us (who manage more than 3 or 
4 servers via one device frequently) will likely concur that in the area of 
KVM, you will usually, generally get what you pay forI am open to evidence 
supporting the contrary.  :-)

Jonathan L. Raper, MCSE

Thumb-typed from my HTC Incredible (and yes, it really is) Droid. Please excuse 
brevity & any misspellings.

- Reply message -
From: "Jonathan Link" 
Date: Fri, Sep 17, 2010 9:08 am
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>

Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>> wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com<mailto:cluster...@gmail.com>]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>>
To: "NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:clusterp.<mailto:clusterp.>..

Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


> Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
>
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> >
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Re: RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread Jonathan Link
What, they only lockup the server once a month now?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
> little.
>
> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker <http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker>
>
> Sent from my Motorola Droid
>
>  On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
> wrote:
> I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
> who makes OmniView?)
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@e...
>
>  -Original Message-
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...
>
>  My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
> you must have thought I wa...
>
>  - Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> To: "NT System Admin...
>
>  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>  That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...
>
>  --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
> [mailto:clusterp...
>
>  Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
>
> 11:31:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
> > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
> >
> >
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> > To: "NT System...
>
> >
> 
> > >
> > > Any medic...
>
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> > > ~ <http://www.sun...
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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-17 Thread James Kerr
Ok, thanks for the heads-up guys. I will look for another one.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Roger Wright 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 5:01 PM
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


  Ditto!  Every Belkin KVM I've every used was difficult to work with.  
Avocents, however, have been perfect.  


  Roger Wright
  ___

  When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't 
nothin' like it!





  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
 wrote:


I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that 
who makes OmniView?)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com



-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I was referring to the Trendnet which you had
mentioned See below). I did find an OmniView that can be upgraded to IP if
you want to later and it will do USB and isn't too expensive. Thanks for the
input as always guys.

James



- Original Message -
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812146018



--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]

    Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



> Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
>
>

> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
    > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs
> did not include the cables, either.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
> [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
> 12:24:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> > I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it
> > isn't
> > mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
> >   Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >   No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
> > dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
> >
> >
> >
> >   It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
> > Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
> > depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
> > should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now,
> > but
> > at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
> >
> >
> >
> >   One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP
> > connection,
> > so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would
> > never
> > have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> >   Technology Coordinator
> >   Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> >   jra...@eaglemds.com
> >   www.eaglemds.com
> >
> >
> >
> 
--
> >
> >   From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
> >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> >   Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >
> >

Re: RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Yep.  Although, Belkin has gotten a little better in recent years.  A
little.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

Sent from my Motorola Droid

On Sep 16, 2010 4:56 PM, "Raper, Jonathan - Eagle" 
wrote:
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
who makes OmniView?)


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@e...

-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommonda...

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I wa...

- Original Message -
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
To: "NT System Admin...

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:clusterp...

Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010

11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

> Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
>
>

> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> To: "NT System...

>

> >
> > Any medic...

> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sun...

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread Roger Wright
Ditto!  Every Belkin KVM I've every used was difficult to work with.
 Avocents, however, have been perfect.


Roger Wright
___

When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
nothin' like it!




On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Raper, Jonathan - Eagle <
jra...@eaglemds.com> wrote:

I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that
> who makes OmniView?)
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
> My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
> you must have thought I was referring to the Trendnet which you had
> mentioned See below). I did find an OmniView that can be upgraded to IP if
> you want to later and it will do USB and isn't too expensive. Thanks for
> the
> input as always guys.
>
> James
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812146018
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
> [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
> 11:31:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> > Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
> > Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> > Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs
> > did not include the cables, either.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: James Kerr
> > [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> > Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
> > 12:24:53 -0700
> > Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> > > I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it
> > > isn't
> > > mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
> > >   - Original Message -
> > >   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> > >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
> > >   Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> > >
> > >
> > >   No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
> > > dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
> > > Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
> > > depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one
> you
> > > should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now,
> > > but
> > > at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP
> > > connection,
> > > so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would
> > > never
> > > have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> > >   Technology Coordinator
> > >   Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> > >   jra...@eaglemds.com
> > >   www.eaglemds.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> --
> > >
> > >   From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
> > >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> > >   Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   You 

RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
I've had _BAD_ experience with Belkin's being _REALLY_ flaky. (Isn't that who 
makes OmniView?)

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


-Original Message-
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan,
you must have thought I was referring to the Trendnet which you had
mentioned See below). I did find an OmniView that can be upgraded to IP if
you want to later and it will do USB and isn't too expensive. Thanks for the
input as always guys.

James


- Original Message -
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812146018


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


> Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs
> did not include the cables, either.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
> [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
> 12:24:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
> > I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it
> > isn't
> > mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
> >   Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >   No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
> > dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
> >
> >
> >
> >   It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
> > Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
> > depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
> > should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now,
> > but
> > at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
> >
> >
> >
> >   One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP
> > connection,
> > so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would
> > never
> > have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> >   Technology Coordinator
> >   Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> >   jra...@eaglemds.com
> >   www.eaglemds.com
> >
> >
> >
> --
> >
> >   From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
> >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> >   Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >
> >   You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
> > nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the
> > servers?
> >
> >
> >
> >   James
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >
> > From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
> >
> > Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >
> > We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports
> > practically
> > everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> > Technology Coordinator
> > Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> > jra..

Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Can't stand Raritan.  Never have.   Avocent has always been a better option
for me -- even in the Cybex days...

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On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> We have a couple of raritan IP based KVMs at clients.  I like them.  You
> just buy the type of dongle you need with it.  Probably nothing you need to
> worry about, but I found out their regular USB dongles didn't work with some
> sun boxes and we needed to order different dongles for those.
>
> Bill
>
> James Kerr wrote:
>
>> Tis a nice box. I'll add it to my server buy and see if it gets approved.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Matthew W. Ross" <
>> mr...@ephrataschools.org>
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
>> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>
>> Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs
>> did not include the cables, either.
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: James Kerr
>> [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
>> Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
>> 12:24:53 -0700
>> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>
>>
>>  I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it isn't
>>> mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
>>>  - Original Message -   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
>>>  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>>>
>>>
>>>  No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
>>> dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
>>> Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
>>> depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
>>> should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now,
>>> but
>>> at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP
>>> connection,
>>> so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never
>>> have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>>  Technology Coordinator
>>>  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>>>  jra...@eaglemds.com
>>>  www.eaglemds.com
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------
>>>
>>>
>>>  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>>>  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
>>>  To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
>>> nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the
>>> servers?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  James
>>>
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>>>
>>>To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
>>>
>>>Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically
>>> everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>>>Technology Coordinator
>>>Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>>>jra...@eaglemds.com
>>>www.eaglemds.com
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
>>>To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>Subject: OT KVM recommondation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my
>>> current KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount
>>> 8
>>> port USB/VGA KVM?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread James Kerr
My reply about the KVM cables where regarding the cables for the Raritan, 
you must have thought I was referring to the Trendnet which you had 
mentioned See below). I did find an OmniView that can be upgraded to IP if 
you want to later and it will do USB and isn't too expensive. Thanks for the 
input as always guys.


James


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812146018


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs
did not include the cables, either.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
12:24:53 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


> I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it 
> isn't

> mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle

>   To: NT System Admin Issues
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
>   Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>   No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
> dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
>
>
>
>   It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
> Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
> depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
> should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now,
> but
> at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
>
>
>
>   One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP
> connection,
> so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would 
> never

> have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
>
>
>
>   Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>   Technology Coordinator
>   Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>   jra...@eaglemds.com
>   www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>
--------------
>
>   From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
>   To: NT System Admin Issues
>   Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
>   You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
> nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the
> servers?
>
>
>
>   James
>
> - Original Message - 
>

> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
>
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports 
> practically

> everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.
>
>
>
> http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/
>
>
>
>
>
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com
>
>
>

>
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT KVM recommondation
>
>
>
> Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my
> current KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack 
> mount

> 8
> port USB/VGA KVM?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> James
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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> with

Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread Bill Humphries
We have a couple of raritan IP based KVMs at clients.  I like them.  You 
just buy the type of dongle you need with it.  Probably nothing you need 
to worry about, but I found out their regular USB dongles didn't work 
with some sun boxes and we needed to order different dongles for those.


Bill

James Kerr wrote:

Tis a nice box. I'll add it to my server buy and see if it gets approved.

Thanks!


- Original Message - From: "Matthew W. Ross" 


To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other 
KVMs did not include the cables, either.



--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
12:24:53 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it 
isn't

mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
  - Original Message -   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation


  No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.



  It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are 
now, but

at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.



  One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP 
connection,
so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would 
never

have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.



  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com


-- 



  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



  You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the 
servers?




  James

- Original Message -
From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle

To: NT System Admin Issues

    Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation



We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports 
practically

everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.



http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/





Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com


 



From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT KVM recommondation



Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my
current KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack 
mount 8

port USB/VGA KVM?



Thanks,



James

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread Matthew W. Ross
That's not right... Newegg has the 6ft USB ones for $16 each...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812146018


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 16 Sep 2010
11:31:45 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


> Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> 
> 
> Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs 
> did not include the cables, either.
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: James Kerr
> [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
> 12:24:53 -0700
> Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> 
> 
> > I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it isn't
> > mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
> >   - Original Message - 
> >   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
> >   Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >   No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
> > dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
> >
> >
> >
> >   It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
> > Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
> > depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
> > should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now, 
> > but
> > at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
> >
> >
> >
> >   One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP 
> > connection,
> > so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never
> > have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> >   Technology Coordinator
> >   Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> >   jra...@eaglemds.com
> >   www.eaglemds.com
> >
> >
> >
> --
> >
> >   From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
> >   To: NT System Admin Issues
> >   Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >
> >   You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
> > nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the 
> > servers?
> >
> >
> >
> >   James
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> >
> > From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
> >
> > Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >
> > We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically
> > everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> > Technology Coordinator
> > Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> > jra...@eaglemds.com
> > www.eaglemds.com
> >
> >
> >
> 
> >
> > From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: OT KVM recommondation
> >
> >
> >
> > Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my
> > current KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 
> > 8
> > port USB/VGA KVM?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> >
> > James
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
> > To manage 

Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread James Kerr

Holy crap the cables are $146 each!!!


- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs 
did not include the cables, either.



--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: James Kerr
[mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
12:24:53 -0700
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it isn't
mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle

  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation


  No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.



  It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now, 
but

at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.



  One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP 
connection,

so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never
have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.



  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com


--

  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



  You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the 
servers?




  James

- Original Message - 


From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle

To: NT System Admin Issues

Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation



We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically
everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.



http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/





Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
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From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
    To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT KVM recommondation



Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my
current KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 
8

port USB/VGA KVM?



Thanks,



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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread James Kerr

Tis a nice box. I'll add it to my server buy and see if it gets approved.

Thanks!


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To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs 
did not include the cables, either.



--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it isn't
mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle

  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation


  No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.



  It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now, 
but

at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.



  One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP 
connection,

so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never
have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.



  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com


--

  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation



  You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the 
servers?




  James

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From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle

To: NT System Admin Issues

Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation



We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically
everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.



http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/





Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com




From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT KVM recommondation



Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my
current KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 
8

port USB/VGA KVM?



Thanks,



James

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-16 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Correct, but they were inexpensive as well. We've noticed most other KVMs did 
not include the cables, either.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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From: James Kerr
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To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010
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Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation


> I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it isn't
> mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
>   To: NT System Admin Issues 
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
>   Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> 
> 
>   No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The
> dongles plug into the USB/PS2 ports.
> 
>
> 
>   It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with
> Raritan or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It
> depends on what your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you
> should go with. I honestly don't remember what the differences are now, but
> at the time I made the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.
> 
>
> 
>   One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP connection,
> so as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never
> have to visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.
> 
>
> 
>   Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
>   Technology Coordinator
>   Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
>   jra...@eaglemds.com
>   www.eaglemds.com 
> 
> 
> --
> 
>   From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
>   To: NT System Admin Issues
>   Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation
> 
>
> 
>   You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a
> nice unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the servers?
> 
>
> 
>   James
> 
>     - Original Message - 
> 
> From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
> 
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
> 
> Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation
> 
>  
> 
> We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically
> everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.
> 
>  
> 
> http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
> Technology Coordinator
> Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
> jra...@eaglemds.com
> www.eaglemds.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT KVM recommondation
> 
>  
> 
> Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my
> current KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8
> port USB/VGA KVM?
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
>  
> 
> James
> 
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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread James Kerr
I take it it doesn't come with the cables based on the fact that it isn't 
mentioned as coming with any when I checked it out at CDW.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:25 PM
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation


  No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The dongles 
plug into the USB/PS2 ports.

   

  It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with Raritan 
or Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It depends on what 
your needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you should go with. I 
honestly don't remember what the differences are now, but at the time I made 
the decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.

   

  One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP connection, so 
as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never have to 
visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.

   

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com 


--

  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

   

  You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a nice 
unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the servers?

   

  James

- Original Message - 

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 

To: NT System Admin Issues 

Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM

Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

 

We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically 
everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.

 

http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/

 

 

Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com
www.eaglemds.com 




From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT KVM recommondation

 

Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current 
KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port 
USB/VGA KVM?

 

Thanks,

 

James

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread Matthew W. Ross
I know others have been recommending more expensive models, and you won't go 
wrong with them...

But we needed to replace an aging and failing Belkin 8 port KVM, and were 
weighing the pros/cons of something more expensive vs the cheap 16 port 
Trendnet USB/PS2 KVM...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817403059

This unit is not fancy, and the cables are not standard (They mix the 
VGA/USB/PS2 into a single DB15 connector, but other KVMs do this as well). But 
it has worked flawlessly and the price is exceptional. We were willing to risk 
it being flaky for the price, and replacing it with something better if it did 
fail us. So far, no problems.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


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Subject: OT KVM recommondation


> Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current
> KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port
> USB/VGA KVM?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> James
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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
I have had Avocents for years and really like them. They make connectors for 
both PS2 and USB on the same KVM so they are very versatile. I highly recommend 
going with an IP capable one if your budget allows.
Tim

From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle [mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The dongles 
plug into the USB/PS2 ports.

It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with Raritan or 
Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It depends on what your 
needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you should go with. I honestly 
don't remember what the differences are now, but at the time I made the 
decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.

One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP connection, so 
as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never have to 
visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a nice 
unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the servers?

James
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From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>
To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically 
everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.

http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT KVM recommondation

Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current KVM 
won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port USB/VGA 
KVM?

Thanks,

James

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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
No, those 16 ports connect to proprietary dongles via CAT5e/CAT6. The dongles 
plug into the USB/PS2 ports.

It is a nice unit. If I'm serious about KVM, I would either go with Raritan or 
Avocent, which someone else mentioned a little bit ago. It depends on what your 
needs (and possibly budget) are as to which one you should go with. I honestly 
don't remember what the differences are now, but at the time I made the 
decision, Raritan was a better choice for us.

One cool thing is that you can mount a local drive over the IP connection, so 
as long as your connection is fast enough, you potentially would never have to 
visit the server, even to do a bare-metal rebuild/restore.


Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT KVM recommondation

You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a nice 
unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the servers?

James
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To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation

We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically 
everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.

http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/



Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.com<mailto:jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.com<http://www.eaglemds.com>


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT KVM recommondation

Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current KVM 
won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port USB/VGA 
KVM?

Thanks,

James

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread James Kerr
You know, I've never messed around with KVM over IP. That looks like a nice 
unit. I assume those 16 ports connect to the ILO ports on the servers?

James
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  From: Raper, Jonathan - Eagle 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:54 AM
  Subject: RE: OT KVM recommondation


  We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically 
everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.

   

  http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/

   

   

  Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE
  Technology Coordinator
  Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
  jra...@eaglemds.com
  www.eaglemds.com 


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  From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: OT KVM recommondation

   

  Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current 
KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port 
USB/VGA KVM?

   

  Thanks,

   

  James

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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread Terry Dickson
Just don't skimp on the connectors.  Someone thought cheaper was better on some 
we purchased.  They would fail in a short period of time, and the only thing 
you could do was replace them.  The worst part is they would either fail on 
Keyboard or Mouse and never the same one twice.Pay a little more and get a 
good brand.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 10:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
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+1

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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Bob Hartung 
mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com>> wrote:
I've been using USB-to-PS2 adapters for some time now with an Avocent Autoview 
2000 KVM and it works fine.

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Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
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To: NT System Admin Issues 
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Subject: OT KVM recommondation
Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current KVM 
won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port USB/VGA 
KVM?

Thanks,

James



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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread Andrew S. Baker
+1


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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Bob Hartung  wrote:

>  I've been using USB-to-PS2 adapters for some time now with an Avocent
> Autoview 2000 KVM and it works fine.
>
> --
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
>
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> *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
> ]
> *Sent:* Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:48:14 -0500
>
> *Subject:* OT KVM recommondation
>
> Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current
> KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port
> USB/VGA KVM?
>
> Thanks,
>
> James
>
>
>

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Re: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread Bob Hartung
I've been using USB-to-PS2 adapters for some time now with an Avocent Autoview 
2000 KVM and it works fine.

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Bob Hartung
Wisco Industries, Inc.
736 Janesville St.
Oregon, WI 53575
Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
Fax: (608) 835-7399
e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
  _  

From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:48:14 -0500
Subject: OT KVM recommondation

  
Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have   PS/2 ports so my current 
KVM won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a   simple rack mount 8 port 
USB/VGA KVM?  
   
Thanks,  
   
James  

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RE: OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
We've got the 16 port version of this one, and it supports practically 
everything. I like it and have not had any issues. They have an 8 port.

http://www.raritan.com/products/kvm-over-ip/dominion-kx-ii/



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Technology Coordinator
Eagle Physicians & Associates, PA
jra...@eaglemds.commailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com>
www.eaglemds.comhttp://www.eaglemds.com/>


From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT KVM recommondation

Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current KVM 
won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port USB/VGA 
KVM?

Thanks,

James

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OT KVM recommondation

2010-09-15 Thread James Kerr
Buying a couple of new servers and they dont have PS/2 ports so my current KVM 
won't work for them. Can anyone recommend a simple rack mount 8 port USB/VGA 
KVM?

Thanks,

James
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