Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-10 Thread James Rankin
SEP increased my user logoff times on MPS 4.5 by about 30-40 seconds. Caused
in my opinion by the problem a lot of AV vendors have - trying to be more
than the end-user requires. Once I stopped installing the full-fat version
and limited it to only AV and antispyware, it started behaving more like
an antivirus product and less like a bloated, unnecessary suite of
difficult-to-manage security products.

I've since moved to Vipre and found it a lot easier, both in terms of
installation, footprint, and maintenance. Having said that, I haven't been
bitten by any of the FPs that came out lately either, but I am much happier
with Sunbelt's product. However, seeing as though we have mandatory
profiles, a very tight Group Policy implementation, application whitelisting
and various other layers of security, our AV doesn't do much at all, bar
catch the EICAR test strings we send out occasionally.

On 9 May 2010 22:34, James Hill james.h...@superamart.com.au wrote:

 IMO SEP was a disaster when it was first released.  It was supposed to fix
 the problems with the previous product (Symantec Corporate Edition, which I
 can remember having to completely renstall on every server we had as it
 wouldn't update anymore and that was Symantec's fix for the issue).

 We were an early adopter of Windows 2008 Server and SEP caused us massive
 pain.  It broke shares left right and centre and would bring servers to a
 halt.  It took about 3 releases from when the problem was identified before
 it was fixed.  Of course each of those releases was claimed to fix the
 problem.  This was just one of its issues.  There were many.

 I swore black and blue when with my previous employer that I wouldn't touch
 Symantec AV again.  Then I inherited it in my current job and I've been
 singing the same thing.  Not to mention we also battle with some of their
 other products.  Backup Exec (update a backup exec server and watch it stop
 the sql service on the sql server its database is on... too bad for the
 other databases on there) and Enterprise Vault provide their share of pain
 as well.

 Having said that, SEP has worked pretty well since MR5.  Nothing major has
 broken for a while and it seems to stop all threats except for those Fake AV
 malwares (which many of the big players seem to struggle with).

 The management console is quite easy to use, there is a good amount of
 control over how defs are deployed.  The group updater function is great(now
 that it finally works properly).

 To be honest it has been very solid for a while now but we will probably
 look at Microsoft's offering next time.

 -Original Message-
 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, 10 May 2010 6:23 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?

 For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
 Just want to be open minded.


 On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
  We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has
  standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
  attractive.
 
 
 
  I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.
 
 
 
  -sc
 
 
 
  From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
  firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product
  to our server security product.
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Ken
 
 
 
  From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
  Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I
  assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch
  to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they
  have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus /
  Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a bloated
 resource drainer.
 
 
 
  I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour
  of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive
  experiences. Always want to be open minded.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  andrew
 
 
 
  On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Cold day in Hades.
 
  Sent slowly via my BBerry...
 
  
 
  From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
 
  Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400
 
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
  Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!
 
 
 
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr 

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Except that Microsoft has great OSes out concurrently with WinME, so you
still had good options available from them.

Symantec's products were simply crappy all the way through.  They had to
purchase SyGate's product to arrive at
the not-quite-so-crappy-anymore product they have today.

If you're happy with Symantec, then by all means continue to use them.  No
one has suggested that they have a 100% failure rate, or no-one would be
using them.  But enough of us have been burned enough times over a
sufficient period of time to choose one of the many viable alternatives on
the market.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 12:22 AM, HELP_PC g...@enter.it wrote:

 Is the same telling MS has crappy Oss when the last tried was Windows ME!|


 GuidoElia
 HELPPC

 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Inviato: lunedì 10 maggio 2010 0.51
 A: NT System Admin Issues
 Oggetto: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?

 Clients all of the sudden becoming unmanageable from the console and
 needing manual intervention.

 At least that was the case with 2 previous versions of SAV, haven't been
 running SEP long enough to have seen if that's been fixed yet.

 -sc

 -Original Message-
 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:23 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?

 For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
 Just want to be open minded.


 On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
  We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has
  standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
  attractive.
 
 
 
  I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.
 
 
 
  -sc
 
 
 
  From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
  firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product

  to our server security product.
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Ken
 
 
 
  From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
  Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I
  assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch
  to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they
  have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus /
  Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a
 bloated resource drainer.
 
 
 
  I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour
  of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive
  experiences. Always want to be open minded.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  andrew
 
 
 
  On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Cold day in Hades.
 
  Sent slowly via my BBerry...
 
  
 
  From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
 
  Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400
 
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
  Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!
 
 
 
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  Oh, HELLS NO...
 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-10 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
 Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: R: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 
 Is the same telling MS has crappy Oss when the last tried was Windows ME!|
 
 
 GuidoElia
 HELPPC
 
 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Inviato: lunedì 10 maggio 2010 0.51
 A: NT System Admin Issues
 Oggetto: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 
 Clients all of the sudden becoming unmanageable from the console and
 needing manual intervention.
 
 At least that was the case with 2 previous versions of SAV, haven't been
 running SEP long enough to have seen if that's been fixed yet.
 
 -sc
 
 -Original Message-
 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:23 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 
 For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
 Just want to be open minded.
 
 
 On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
  We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has
  standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
  attractive.
 
 
 
  I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.
 
 
 
  -sc
 
 
 
  From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
  firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product
 
  to our server security product.
 
 
 
  Cheers
 
  Ken
 
 
 
  From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
  Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I
  assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch
  to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they
  have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus /
  Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a
 bloated resource drainer.
 
 
 
  I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour
  of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive
  experiences. Always want to be open minded.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  andrew
 
 
 
  On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Cold day in Hades.
 
  Sent slowly via my BBerry...
 
  
 
  From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
 
  Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400
 
  To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 
  Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!
 
 
 
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
 
 
  Oh, HELLS NO...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-10 Thread Steven M. Caesare
As I _AM_ running both SAV and SEP, I guess I'll file that away as advice for 
the future...

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
 Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:01 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: R: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 
 I said that you cannot talk about things that you didn't try
 
 
 GuidoElia
 HELPPC
 
 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Inviato: lunedì 10 maggio 2010 14.54
 A: NT System Admin Issues
 Oggetto: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 
 I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:22 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: R: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
  Is the same telling MS has crappy Oss when the last tried was Windows
  ME!|
 
 
  GuidoElia
  HELPPC
 
  -Messaggio originale-
  Da: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
  Inviato: lunedì 10 maggio 2010 0.51
  A: NT System Admin Issues
  Oggetto: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
  Clients all of the sudden becoming unmanageable from the console and
  needing manual intervention.
 
  At least that was the case with 2 previous versions of SAV, haven't
  been running SEP long enough to have seen if that's been fixed yet.
 
  -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:23 PM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
  For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
  Just want to be open minded.
 
 
  On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
   We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of
   has standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
   attractive.
  
  
  
   I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.
  
  
  
   -sc
  
  
  
   From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
   Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
   Symantec enterprise?
  
  
  
   We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
   firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security
   product
 
   to our server security product.
  
  
  
   Cheers
  
   Ken
  
  
  
   From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
   Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
   Symantec enterprise?
  
  
  
   We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I
   assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch
   to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they
   have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus /
   Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a
  bloated resource drainer.
  
  
  
   I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour
   of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has
   positive experiences. Always want to be open minded.
  
  
  
   Regards,
  
  
  
   andrew
  
  
  
   On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Cold day in Hades.
  
   Sent slowly via my BBerry...
  
   
  
   From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
  
   Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400
  
   To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
  
   Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
   Symantec enterprise?
  
  
  
   With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!
  
  
  
   From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
   Symantec enterprise?
  
  
  
   Oh, HELLS NO...
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
   http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
  --
  Justin
  IT-TECH
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 ~ Finally, 

RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-10 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Look the original poster asked who was running SAV and their experience.

I gave my experience for SAV, and for SEP, and called them out separately. We 
are running both, and I've disclosed to what extent my experience with SEP is 
limited by time.

This is nothing at all like only running WinME and opting to comment on Win2K 
without having touched it.

Feel free to have the last word I'll not waste my time arguing with you.

-sc


 -Original Message-
 From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
 Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:13 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: R: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 
 Who did write it ?
 
  At least that was the case with 2 previous versions of SAV, haven't
   been running SEP long enough to have seen if that's been fixed yet.
  
 
 
 GuidoElia
 HELPPC
 
 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Inviato: lunedì 10 maggio 2010 15.05
 A: NT System Admin Issues
 Oggetto: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 
 As I _AM_ running both SAV and SEP, I guess I'll file that away as advice for
 the future...
 
 -sc
 
  -Original Message-
  From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
  Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:01 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: R: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
  I said that you cannot talk about things that you didn't try
 
 
  GuidoElia
  HELPPC
 
  -Messaggio originale-
  Da: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
  Inviato: lunedì 10 maggio 2010 14.54
  A: NT System Admin Issues
  Oggetto: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
  Symantec enterprise?
 
  I'm not even sure what you are trying to say.
 
  -sc
 
   -Original Message-
   From: HELP_PC [mailto:g...@enter.it]
   Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:22 AM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: R: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
   Symantec enterprise?
  
   Is the same telling MS has crappy Oss when the last tried was
   Windows ME!|
  
  
   GuidoElia
   HELPPC
  
   -Messaggio originale-
   Da: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
   Inviato: lunedì 10 maggio 2010 0.51
   A: NT System Admin Issues
   Oggetto: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
   Symantec enterprise?
  
   Clients all of the sudden becoming unmanageable from the console
   and needing manual intervention.
  
   At least that was the case with 2 previous versions of SAV, haven't
   been running SEP long enough to have seen if that's been fixed yet.
  
   -sc
  
   -Original Message-
   From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:23 PM
   To: NT System Admin Issues
   Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
   Symantec enterprise?
  
   For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
   Just want to be open minded.
  
  
   On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of
has standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the
price attractive.
   
   
   
I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.
   
   
   
-sc
   
   
   
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?
   
   
   
We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does
AV, firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security
product
  
to our server security product.
   
   
   
Cheers
   
Ken
   
   
   
From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?
   
   
   
We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I
assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would
switch to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in
fact they have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their
Antivirus / Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and
above all a
   bloated resource drainer.
   
   
   
I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in
favour of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone
has positive experiences. Always want to be open minded.
   
   
   
Regards,
   
   
   
andrew
   
   
   
On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:
   
Cold day in Hades.
   
Sent slowly via my BBerry...
   

   
From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
   
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400
   
 

RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-10 Thread Jay Dale
Used SEP as well as SCE for years, but when VIPRE came along, became a believer 
and not going back.

Jay Dale
I.T. Manager, 3GiG
Mobile: 713.299.2541
Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com

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-Original Message-
From: James Hill [mailto:james.h...@superamart.com.au] 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

IMO SEP was a disaster when it was first released.  It was supposed to fix the 
problems with the previous product (Symantec Corporate Edition, which I can 
remember having to completely renstall on every server we had as it wouldn't 
update anymore and that was Symantec's fix for the issue).

We were an early adopter of Windows 2008 Server and SEP caused us massive pain. 
 It broke shares left right and centre and would bring servers to a halt.  It 
took about 3 releases from when the problem was identified before it was fixed. 
 Of course each of those releases was claimed to fix the problem.  This was 
just one of its issues.  There were many.

I swore black and blue when with my previous employer that I wouldn't touch 
Symantec AV again.  Then I inherited it in my current job and I've been singing 
the same thing.  Not to mention we also battle with some of their other 
products.  Backup Exec (update a backup exec server and watch it stop the sql 
service on the sql server its database is on... too bad for the other databases 
on there) and Enterprise Vault provide their share of pain as well.

Having said that, SEP has worked pretty well since MR5.  Nothing major has 
broken for a while and it seems to stop all threats except for those Fake AV 
malwares (which many of the big players seem to struggle with).

The management console is quite easy to use, there is a good amount of control 
over how defs are deployed.  The group updater function is great(now that it 
finally works properly).

To be honest it has been very solid for a while now but we will probably look 
at Microsoft's offering next time.

-Original Message-
From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 10 May 2010 6:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
Just want to be open minded.


On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has 
 standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price 
 attractive.



 I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.



 -sc



 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV, 
 firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product 
 to our server security product.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I 
 assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch 
 to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they 
 have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus / 
 Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a bloated 
 resource drainer.



 I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour 
 of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive 
 experiences. Always want to be open minded.



 Regards,



 andrew



 On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold day in Hades.

 Sent slowly via my BBerry...

 

 From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net

 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!



 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
 To: NT System 

RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-09 Thread Ken Schaefer
We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV, firewall 
etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product to our server 
security product.

Cheers
Ken

From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I assume we get 
it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch to VIPRE in a flash. I 
have nothing against Symantec, in fact they have a strong portfolio of 
solutions. However, their Antivirus / Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly 
designed and above all a bloated resource drainer.

I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour of SAV, 
but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive experiences. 
Always want to be open minded.

Regards,

andrew

On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea 
blazer...@gmail.commailto:blazer...@gmail.com wrote:
Cold day in Hades.

Sent slowly via my BBerry...


From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.netmailto:greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400
To: NT System Admin 
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!

From: Micheal Espinola Jr 
[mailto:michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

Oh, HELLS NO...





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-09 Thread Steven M. Caesare
We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has
standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
attractive.

 

I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.

 

-sc

 

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

 

We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product
to our server security product.

 

Cheers

Ken

 

From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk] 
Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

 

We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I assume
we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch to VIPRE
in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they have a strong
portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus / Endpoint Protection
is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a bloated resource drainer.

 

I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour of
SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive
experiences. Always want to be open minded.

 

Regards,

 

andrew

 

On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

Cold day in Hades.

Sent slowly via my BBerry...



From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net 

Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400

To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

 

With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

 

Oh, HELLS NO...  


 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-09 Thread justino garcia
For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
Just want to be open minded.


On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has
 standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
 attractive.



 I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.



 -sc



 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
 firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product
 to our server security product.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I assume
 we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch to VIPRE
 in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they have a strong
 portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus / Endpoint Protection
 is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a bloated resource drainer.



 I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour of
 SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive
 experiences. Always want to be open minded.



 Regards,



 andrew



 On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold day in Hades.

 Sent slowly via my BBerry...

 

 From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net

 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!



 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 Oh, HELLS NO...








 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-09 Thread greg.sweers
I have not run latest, but every other version that we had on clients
was it was extremely bloated (Memory/CPU) utilization, and it didn't
catch virtually anything new.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
Just want to be open minded.


On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has
 standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
 attractive.



 I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.



 -sc



 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
 firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product
 to our server security product.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I
assume
 we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch to VIPRE
 in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they have a
strong
 portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus / Endpoint Protection
 is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a bloated resource drainer.



 I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour
of
 SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive
 experiences. Always want to be open minded.



 Regards,



 andrew



 On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold day in Hades.

 Sent slowly via my BBerry...

 

 From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net

 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!



 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 Oh, HELLS NO...








 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-09 Thread justino garcia
Did it run av deep scans schedule
Sav or just active protections

On 5/9/10, greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net wrote:
 I have not run latest, but every other version that we had on clients
 was it was extremely bloated (Memory/CPU) utilization, and it didn't
 catch virtually anything new.

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:23 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?

 For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
 Just want to be open minded.


 On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has
 standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price
 attractive.



 I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.



 -sc



 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV,
 firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product
 to our server security product.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I
 assume
 we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch to VIPRE
 in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they have a
 strong
 portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus / Endpoint Protection
 is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a bloated resource drainer.



 I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour
 of
 SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive
 experiences. Always want to be open minded.



 Regards,



 andrew



 On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold day in Hades.

 Sent slowly via my BBerry...

 

 From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net

 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!



 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 Oh, HELLS NO...








 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-09 Thread James Hill
IMO SEP was a disaster when it was first released.  It was supposed to fix the 
problems with the previous product (Symantec Corporate Edition, which I can 
remember having to completely renstall on every server we had as it wouldn't 
update anymore and that was Symantec's fix for the issue).

We were an early adopter of Windows 2008 Server and SEP caused us massive pain. 
 It broke shares left right and centre and would bring servers to a halt.  It 
took about 3 releases from when the problem was identified before it was fixed. 
 Of course each of those releases was claimed to fix the problem.  This was 
just one of its issues.  There were many.

I swore black and blue when with my previous employer that I wouldn't touch 
Symantec AV again.  Then I inherited it in my current job and I've been singing 
the same thing.  Not to mention we also battle with some of their other 
products.  Backup Exec (update a backup exec server and watch it stop the sql 
service on the sql server its database is on... too bad for the other databases 
on there) and Enterprise Vault provide their share of pain as well.

Having said that, SEP has worked pretty well since MR5.  Nothing major has 
broken for a while and it seems to stop all threats except for those Fake AV 
malwares (which many of the big players seem to struggle with).

The management console is quite easy to use, there is a good amount of control 
over how defs are deployed.  The group updater function is great(now that it 
finally works properly).

To be honest it has been very solid for a while now but we will probably look 
at Microsoft's offering next time.

-Original Message-
From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, 10 May 2010 6:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
Just want to be open minded.


On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has 
 standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price 
 attractive.



 I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.



 -sc



 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV, 
 firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product 
 to our server security product.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I 
 assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch 
 to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they 
 have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus / 
 Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a bloated 
 resource drainer.



 I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour 
 of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive 
 experiences. Always want to be open minded.



 Regards,



 andrew



 On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold day in Hades.

 Sent slowly via my BBerry...

 

 From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net

 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!



 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 Oh, HELLS NO...








 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


--
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-09 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Clients all of the sudden becoming unmanageable from the console and
needing manual intervention.

At least that was the case with 2 previous versions of SAV, haven't been
running SEP long enough to have seen if that's been fixed yet.

-sc

-Original Message-
From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

For those runng symantec what the biggest issues postive and negative.
Just want to be open minded.


On 5/9/10, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote:
 We have SEP because the larger gov. organization we are a part of has 
 standardized on it, and thus has a contract that makes the price 
 attractive.



 I haven't had much success trying to convince them otherwise.



 -sc



 From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
 Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:19 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 We're using SEP because we're implementing NAC and it also does AV, 
 firewall etc. We also have to have a separate desktop security product

 to our server security product.



 Cheers

 Ken



 From: Andrew Levicki [mailto:and...@levicki.me.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, 9 May 2010 10:15 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I 
 assume we get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch 
 to VIPRE in a flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they 
 have a strong portfolio of solutions. However, their Antivirus / 
 Endpoint Protection is unwieldy, badly designed and above all a
bloated resource drainer.



 I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour 
 of SAV, but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive 
 experiences. Always want to be open minded.



 Regards,



 andrew



 On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold day in Hades.

 Sent slowly via my BBerry...

 

 From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net

 Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400

 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

 Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!



 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to 
 Symantec enterprise?



 Oh, HELLS NO...








 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


--
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Jon Harris
No way!  Symantec is still a system hog and does not catch early what some
other vendors do.

Jon

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

 WHY?


 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Bob Fronk
Not even in my worst nightmare!

From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

No way!  Symantec is still a system hog and does not catch early what some 
other vendors do.

Jon
On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, justino garcia 
jgarciaitl...@gmail.commailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec enterprise?
WHY?


--
Justin
IT-TECH










~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Silvio L. Nisgoski
Maybe desire to punish oneself for past-lives cruelty

  - Original Message - 
  From: justino garcia 
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 2:42 PM
  Subject: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?


  Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec enterprise?
  WHY?


  -- 
  Justin
  IT-TECH




 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Jon Harris
I forgot to add and the way they spider their software all though the file
system making it almost impossible to get rid of.  Symantec is more like a
virus or a trojan than most of the others.

Jon

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:

  No way!  Symantec is still a system hog and does not catch early what
 some other vendors do.

 Jon

  On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, justino garcia 
 jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 WHY?


 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH












~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Jonathan Link
The same complaints/problems we've had with Vipre have been there with
Symantec and then some.



On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

 WHY?


 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread justino garcia
Even with symantec enterprise. You had symantec with more issues then
current vendor.

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote:

 The same complaints/problems we've had with Vipre have been there with
 Symantec and then some.



 On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 1:42 PM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec
 enterprise?
 WHY?


 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH













-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Oh, HELLS NO...

--
ME2


On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:42 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.comwrote:

 Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec enterprise?
 WHY?


 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread greg.sweers
With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

 

Oh, HELLS NO...  

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ME2



On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:42 AM, justino garcia
jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec
enterprise?

WHY?



-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Dave Florea
Cold day in Hades.

Sent slowly via my BBerry...

-Original Message-
From: greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec 
enterprise?

With all the passion and sincerity I can muster...NO!

 

From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
Symantec enterprise?

 

Oh, HELLS NO...  

--
ME2



On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:42 AM, justino garcia
jgarciaitl...@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec
enterprise?

WHY?



-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

 

 

 

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Ben Schorr
Not a chance.

 

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From: justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 07:42
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec
enterprise?

 

Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec
enterprise?

WHY?



-- 
Justin
IT-TECH

 

 

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

2010-05-08 Thread Andrew Levicki
We are running SAV because we are a Symantec Partner, therefore I assume we
get it for free. But, if I had the decision I would switch to VIPRE in a
flash. I have nothing against Symantec, in fact they have a strong portfolio
of solutions. However, their Antivirus / Endpoint Protection is unwieldy,
badly designed and above all a bloated resource drainer.

I would be very surprised if anyone here came out strongly in favour of SAV,
but I would be very interested to hear if anyone has positive experiences.
Always want to be open minded.

Regards,

andrew

On 9 May 2010 10:10, Dave Florea blazer...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cold day in Hades.

 Sent slowly via my BBerry...
 --
 *From: * greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net
 *Date: *Sat, 8 May 2010 19:31:20 -0400
 *To: *NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 *Subject: *RE: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?

  With all the passion and sincerity I can muster…NO!



 *From:* Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Saturday, May 08, 2010 7:11 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Anyone leaving their current AV and returning back to
 Symantec enterprise?



 Oh, HELLS NO...

 --
 ME2

  On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 10:42 AM, justino garcia jgarciaitl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Anyone leaving their current AV  and returning back to Symantec enterprise?

 WHY?



 --
 Justin
 IT-TECH






















-- 
Kind regards,

Andrew Levicki
MCITP:EDST7/EMA/EA,MCSE,MCSA,MCP,CCNA,ITIL

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~