Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jim Majorowicz  wrote:
> What is the benifit of the VHDX file type over VHD?

  It has an X at the end.  Anything with an X at the end is better.
It's like "32" from the 1990's.

-- Ben

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Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Steven Peck]

I was curious so I looked it up.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831446.aspx

Support for virtual hard disk storage capacity of up to 64 TB

Protection against data corruption during power failures by logging updates
to the VHDX metadata structures

Improved alignment of the virtual hard disk format to work well on large
sector disks

Larger block sizes for dynamic and differencing disks, which allows these
disks to attune to the needs of the workload

A 4-KB logical sector virtual disk that allows for increased performance
when used by applications and workloads that are designed for 4-KB sectors.
The ability to store custom metadata about the file that the user might
want to record, such as operating system version or patches applied.
Efficiency in representing data (also known as “trim”), which results in
smaller file size and allows the underlying physical storage device to
reclaim unused space. (Trim requires physical disks directly attached to a
virtual machine or SCSI disks, and trim-compatible hardware.)

Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> Larger file sizes I think...
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Matthew W. Ross 
> wrote:
>
>> I know that you can use a VHDX over a SMB share... This can't be done
>> with a VHD.
>>
>> Other than that, I'm not sure.
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Jim Majorowicz
>> [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
>> Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2012
>> 13:18:24 -0800
>> Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>
>>
>> > What is the benifit of the VHDX file type over VHD?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Michael B. Smith
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >  Server 2012 completely supports you just pointing to the old config
>> > > files. You do not need to export/import.
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > The major benefit you do not get is the upgrade to VHDX.
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
>> > > *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2012 9:12 AM
>> > >
>> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> > > *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>> > >
>> > >  ** **
>> > >
>> > > If the VM’s are not on the 2008R2 OS drive, is it necessary to
>> > > export/import the VM’s, or could you just re-OS the 2008 R2 to 2012
>> and
>> > > create new VM’s by pointing them to the VHD’s? I keep my guests simple
>> > with
>> > > no snapshots and when I create the VM I put all the files/settings in
>> the
>> > > same folder (D:\VMs1\Server1, for example), etc. I don’t know if that
>> > will
>> > > key off a reactivation of the OS or not, but it would save me about 5
>> > hours
>> > > of waiting for files to copy back and forth.
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > iSCSI or other external storage is really looking convenient right
>> about
>> > > now….
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com > >]
>> > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:03 PM
>> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> > > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > It's a cable that came with a firewall, too.  But with the "CAT5"
>> staring
>> > > me in the face, I made the change and was much happier for it.
>> > >
>> > > Live Migration peaked at about 882 Mbps during my last copy, but spent
>> > > most of its time hanging out around 550 Mbps, so I was only losing
>> 80% of
>> > > my capacity before. :D
>> > >
>> > > ** **
>> > >
>> > > I'll test it next with a VM that is off, and see how that impacts the
>> > > transfer rates.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 
>> > >
>> > >  
>> > >
>> > >  
>> > >
>> > > *ASB
>> > > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
>> > > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information
>> Security)
&g

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Steve Ens]

Larger file sizes I think...


On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Matthew W. Ross wrote:

> I know that you can use a VHDX over a SMB share... This can't be done with
> a VHD.
>
> Other than that, I'm not sure.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Jim Majorowicz
> [mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2012
> 13:18:24 -0800
> Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>
> > What is the benifit of the VHDX file type over VHD?
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Michael B. Smith
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  Server 2012 completely supports you just pointing to the old config
> > > files. You do not need to export/import.
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > The major benefit you do not get is the upgrade to VHDX.
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> > > *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2012 9:12 AM
> > >
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
> > >
> > >  ** **
> > >
> > > If the VM’s are not on the 2008R2 OS drive, is it necessary to
> > > export/import the VM’s, or could you just re-OS the 2008 R2 to 2012 and
> > > create new VM’s by pointing them to the VHD’s? I keep my guests simple
> > with
> > > no snapshots and when I create the VM I put all the files/settings in
> the
> > > same folder (D:\VMs1\Server1, for example), etc. I don’t know if that
> > will
> > > key off a reactivation of the OS or not, but it would save me about 5
> > hours
> > > of waiting for files to copy back and forth.****
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > iSCSI or other external storage is really looking convenient right
> about
> > > now….
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com ]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:03 PM
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > It's a cable that came with a firewall, too.  But with the "CAT5"
> staring
> > > me in the face, I made the change and was much happier for it.
> > >
> > > Live Migration peaked at about 882 Mbps during my last copy, but spent
> > > most of its time hanging out around 550 Mbps, so I was only losing 80%
> of
> > > my capacity before. :D
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > I'll test it next with a VM that is off, and see how that impacts the
> > > transfer rates.
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > *ASB
> > > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> > > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> > > for the SMB market…*
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Art DeKneef 
> wrote:**
> > > **
> > >
> > > Curious also what was up with the cable. Have a couple of short runs
> (60
> > > feet or so) that are CAT 5 and are doing fine with gig speeds. Well
> > getting
> > > average 550 Mbps on quick speed tests.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:16 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a
> > **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live
> Migration?
> > > 
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye
> c

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Matthew W. Ross]

I know that you can use a VHDX over a SMB share... This can't be done with a 
VHD.

Other than that, I'm not sure.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Jim Majorowicz
[mailto:jmajorow...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Fri, 07 Dec 2012
13:18:24 -0800
Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB


> What is the benifit of the VHDX file type over VHD?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Michael B. Smith
> wrote:
> 
> >  Server 2012 completely supports you just pointing to the old config
> > files. You do not need to export/import.
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > The major benefit you do not get is the upgrade to VHDX.
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> > *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2012 9:12 AM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
> >
> >  ** **
> >
> > If the VM’s are not on the 2008R2 OS drive, is it necessary to
> > export/import the VM’s, or could you just re-OS the 2008 R2 to 2012 and
> > create new VM’s by pointing them to the VHD’s? I keep my guests simple
> with
> > no snapshots and when I create the VM I put all the files/settings in the
> > same folder (D:\VMs1\Server1, for example), etc. I don’t know if that
> will
> > key off a reactivation of the OS or not, but it would save me about 5
> hours
> > of waiting for files to copy back and forth.
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > iSCSI or other external storage is really looking convenient right about
> > now….****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com ]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:03 PM
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > It's a cable that came with a firewall, too.  But with the "CAT5" staring
> > me in the face, I made the change and was much happier for it.
> >
> > Live Migration peaked at about 882 Mbps during my last copy, but spent
> > most of its time hanging out around 550 Mbps, so I was only losing 80% of
> > my capacity before. :D
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > I'll test it next with a VM that is off, and see how that impacts the
> > transfer rates.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > *ASB
> > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> > for the SMB market…*
> >
> >  
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Art DeKneef  wrote:**
> > **
> >
> > Curious also what was up with the cable. Have a couple of short runs (60
> > feet or so) that are CAT 5 and are doing fine with gig speeds. Well
> getting
> > average 550 Mbps on quick speed tests.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Art
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:16 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
> >
> >  
> >
> > Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a
> **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> > Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
> > the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > *ASB
> > **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> > **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> > for the SMB market…*
> >
> >  
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
> > wrote:
> >
> >  I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
> >  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off
> was
> > smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
> &g

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Jim Majorowicz]

What is the benifit of the VHDX file type over VHD?

On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:28 AM, Michael B. Smith wrote:

>  Server 2012 completely supports you just pointing to the old config
> files. You do not need to export/import.
>
> ** **
>
> The major benefit you do not get is the upgrade to VHDX.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Friday, December 7, 2012 9:12 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  ** **
>
> If the VM’s are not on the 2008R2 OS drive, is it necessary to
> export/import the VM’s, or could you just re-OS the 2008 R2 to 2012 and
> create new VM’s by pointing them to the VHD’s? I keep my guests simple with
> no snapshots and when I create the VM I put all the files/settings in the
> same folder (D:\VMs1\Server1, for example), etc. I don’t know if that will
> key off a reactivation of the OS or not, but it would save me about 5 hours
> of waiting for files to copy back and forth.
>
> ** **
>
> iSCSI or other external storage is really looking convenient right about
> now….
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com ]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:03 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> ** **
>
> It's a cable that came with a firewall, too.  But with the "CAT5" staring
> me in the face, I made the change and was much happier for it.
>
> Live Migration peaked at about 882 Mbps during my last copy, but spent
> most of its time hanging out around 550 Mbps, so I was only losing 80% of
> my capacity before. :D
>
> ** **
>
> I'll test it next with a VM that is off, and see how that impacts the
> transfer rates.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Art DeKneef  wrote:**
> **
>
> Curious also what was up with the cable. Have a couple of short runs (60
> feet or so) that are CAT 5 and are doing fine with gig speeds. Well getting
> average 550 Mbps on quick speed tests.
>
>  
>
> Art
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:16 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  
>
> Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a 
> **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?
> 
>
>  
>
> Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
>
>  
>
> Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
>
>  
>
> Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
> the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
> wrote:
>
>  I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
>  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
> 
>
>  
>
> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that
> goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow
> for me.   
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>
>  Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it,
> think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  
>
> Well, VM Host #

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

I can imagine.

Of course, I can't afford that for my home network.  :)





*ASB
**http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
**Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market…***






On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Sean Martin  wrote:

> You should see vmotion run over dual 40Gb infiniband, its pretty slick.
>
> - Sean
>
> On Dec 6, 2012, at 4:00 PM, "Andrew S. Baker"  wrote:
>
> Since it's still in the lab, I have 5E here.  I have CAT6 cable in the
> rack where it will go when I finish the migration and testing.
>
>
>
>
>
> *ASB
> *
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…***
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>>  And which did you replace it with - a cat5e or cat6 cable?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>
>>> Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a **CAT5*
>>> * cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?
>>>
>>> Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
>>>
>>> Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
>>>
>>> Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
>>> the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *ASB
>>> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
>>> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
>>> for the SMB market…***
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>> I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
>>>>  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
>>>> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
>>>> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
>>>>
>>>> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how
>>>> that goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too
>>>> slow for me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *ASB
>>>> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
>>>> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information
>>>> Security) for the SMB market…***
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on
>>>>> it, think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>>>>
>>>>> ** **
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and
>>>>> it's looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs
>>>>> using the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.**
>>>>> **
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> *ASB*
>>>>>
>>>>> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…**
>>>>> ***
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:*
>>>>> ***
>>>>>
>>>>> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions b

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Sean Martin]

You should see vmotion run over dual 40Gb infiniband, its pretty slick.

- Sean

On Dec 6, 2012, at 4:00 PM, "Andrew S. Baker"  wrote:

> Since it's still in the lab, I have 5E here.  I have CAT6 cable in the rack 
> where it will go when I finish the migration and testing.
> 
>  
>  
> ASB
> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the 
> SMB market…
>  
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>> And which did you replace it with - a cat5e or cat6 cable?
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>>> Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a *CAT5* 
>>> cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?  
>>> 
>>> Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
>>> 
>>> Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
>>> 
>>> Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught 
>>> the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> ASB
>>> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>>> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for 
>>> the SMB market…
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>>>> I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.  
>>>> No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was 
>>>> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up 
>>>> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that 
>>>> goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow 
>>>> for me.   
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> ASB
>>>> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>>>> Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for 
>>>> the SMB market…
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>>>>> Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it, 
>>>>> think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's 
>>>>> looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs 
>>>>> using the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> ASB
>>>>> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
>>>>> Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being 
>>>>> handled by the guest VM’s.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it 
>>>>> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V 
>>>>> server isn't what your looking for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christopher Bodnar 
>>>>> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise 
>>>>> Architecture and Engineering Services

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

It's a cable that came with a firewall, too.  But with the "CAT5" staring
me in the face, I made the change and was much happier for it.

Live Migration peaked at about 882 Mbps during my last copy, but spent most
of its time hanging out around 550 Mbps, so I was only losing 80% of my
capacity before. :D

I'll test it next with a VM that is off, and see how that impacts the
transfer rates.





*ASB
**http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
**Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market…***






On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Art DeKneef  wrote:

> Curious also what was up with the cable. Have a couple of short runs (60
> feet or so) that are CAT 5 and are doing fine with gig speeds. Well getting
> average 550 Mbps on quick speed tests.
>
> ** **
>
> Art
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:16 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> ** **
>
> Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a 
> **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
>
> ** **
>
> Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
>
> ** **
>
> Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
> the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
> wrote:
>
> I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
>  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that
> goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow
> for me.   
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:****
>
> Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it,
> think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  
>
> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
> looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
> the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB*
>
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>****
>
> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
> handled by the guest VM’s.
>
>  
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  
>
> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc....) then Hyper-V server
> isn't what your looking for. 
>
> *Christopher Bodnar*
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
> christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>
>
> *
> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America*
> *
> *www.guardianlife.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:David Lum 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues" 

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

Since it's still in the lab, I have 5E here.  I have CAT6 cable in the rack
where it will go when I finish the migration and testing.





*ASB
**http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
**Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market…***






On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> And which did you replace it with - a cat5e or cat6 cable?
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
>
>> Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a 
>> **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?
>>
>> Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
>>
>> Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
>>
>> Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
>> the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *ASB
>> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
>> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
>> for the SMB market…***
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>
>>> I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
>>>  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
>>> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
>>> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
>>>
>>> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how
>>> that goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too
>>> slow for me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *ASB
>>> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
>>> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
>>> for the SMB market…***
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on
>>>> it, think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
>>>> looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
>>>> the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.****
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> *ASB*
>>>>
>>>> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>>
>>>> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…***
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:**
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
>>>> handled by the guest VM’s.
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
>>>> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server
>>>> isn't what your looking for. 
>>>>
>>>> *Christopher Bodnar*
>>>> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
>>>> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>>>>
>>>> Tel 610-807-6459
>>>> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethleh

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

Yep, it auto-negotiated to 100MB.

I've seen CAT5 operate at GigE, but it's not guaranteed.





*ASB
**http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
**Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market…***






On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Interesting. So, did it auto negotiate at 100mb? I thought cat5 would
> work at a gig, but just have a degraded signal resulting in dropped packets
> and interference.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:16 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> ** **
>
> Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a 
> **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
>
> ** **
>
> Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
>
> ** **
>
> Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
> the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
> wrote:
>
> I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
>  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
> 
>
> ** **
>
> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that
> goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow
> for me.   
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>
>  Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it,
> think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>
>  
>
> Dave
>
>  
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  
>
> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
> looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
> the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB*
>
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
>
> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
> handled by the guest VM’s.
>
>  
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  
>
> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server
> isn't what your looking for. 
>
> *Christopher Bodnar*
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
> christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>
>
> *
> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America*
> *
> *www.guardianlife.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:David Lum 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM
> Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
>  --
>
>
>
>
> This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789
>
> It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not

RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Art DeKneef]

Curious also what was up with the cable. Have a couple of short runs (60
feet or so) that are CAT 5 and are doing fine with gig speeds. Well getting
average 550 Mbps on quick speed tests.

 

Art

 

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2012 4:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

 

Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a *CAT5*
cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?  

 

Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.

 

Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.

 

Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught the
CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.




 

 


ASB
 <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market.

 





On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker mailto:asbz...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.  No
difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)

 

Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that
goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow for
me.   




 

 


ASB
 <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market.

 





On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum mailto:david@nwea.org> > wrote:

Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM's on it,
think I'll try the migration tonight myself..

 

Dave

 

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com <mailto:asbz...@gmail.com> ]

Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

 

Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.




 

 


ASB


 <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker> http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker


Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market.

 

 

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum mailto:david@nwea.org> > wrote:

It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
handled by the guest VM's.

 

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com
<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com> ] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

 

I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server
isn't what your looking for. 


Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
Architecture and Engineering Services 


Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
christopher_bod...@glic.com <mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>  




The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America

 <http://www.guardianlife.com/> www.guardianlife.com 








From:David Lum mailto:david@nwea.org> > 
To:"NT System Admin Issues" mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> > 
Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM 
Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 

  _  




This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB: 
 <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789>
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789 
  
It can be argued that if I'm going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not go
to 2012. 
  
Next question..how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I go
from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively server
core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything
obvious? 
  
I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least
protecting the VM's themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but
technically simple. Time for more research. 
  
Dave 
  
From: Christopher Bodnar [ <mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>
mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
  
And the Hyper-V version is free. 


Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
Architecture and Engineering Services 


Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
christopher_bod...@glic.com <

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Kurt Buff]

And which did you replace it with - a cat5e or cat6 cable?

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a 
> **CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?
>
> Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.
>
> Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.
>
> Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
> the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.
>
>
>
>
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…***
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>
>> I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
>>  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
>> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
>> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
>>
>> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that
>> goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow
>> for me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *ASB
>> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
>> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
>> for the SMB market…***
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>>
>>>  Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on
>>> it, think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
>>> looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
>>> the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *ASB*
>>>
>>> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
>>>
>>> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…
>>> *
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:***
>>> *
>>>
>>> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
>>> handled by the guest VM’s.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>>>
>>>
>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB****
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
>>> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server
>>> isn't what your looking for. 
>>>
>>> *Christopher Bodnar*
>>> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
>>> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>>>
>>> Tel 610-807-6459
>>> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
>>> christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America*
>>> *
>>> *www.guardianlife.com 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From:David Lum 
>>> To:"NT System Admin Issues" <
>>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>>> Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM
>>> Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
>>>  --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789
>>>
>>> It can be argue

RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Crawford, Scott]

Interesting. So, did it auto negotiate at 100mb? I thought cat5 would work at a 
gig, but just have a degraded signal resulting in dropped packets and 
interference.

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 5:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a *CAT5* cable 
to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live Migration?

Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.

Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.

Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught the 
CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.



ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the 
SMB market...




On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.  No 
difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was 
smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up 
continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)

Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that goes. 
 LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow for me.



ASB
http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for the 
SMB market...




On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM's on it, think 
I'll try the migration tonight myself

Dave

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com<mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's looks 
like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using the new 
Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.






ASB


http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>


Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market...




On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being handled 
by the guest VM's.

From: Christopher Bodnar 
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it requires 
any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server isn't what 
your looking for.
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>

[cid:image001.jpg@01CDD3D6.1739ABD0]

The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America

www.guardianlife.com<http://www.guardianlife.com/>







From:David Lum mailto:david@nwea.org>>
To:    "NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM
Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB




This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789

It can be argued that if I'm going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not go to 
2012.

Next questionhow nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I go 
from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively server 
core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything obvious?

I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least 
protecting the VM's themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but 
technically simple. Time for more research.

Dave

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

And the Hyper-V version is free.
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>

[cid:image001.jpg@01CDD3D6.1739ABD0]

The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America

www.guardianlife.com<http://www.guardianlife.com/>








From:Mi

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

Do you know what happens if you don't pay attention and attach a
**CAT5**cable to the NIC that you intend to use for Hyper-V Live
Migration?

Yeah, it operates at 10% of its overall potential.

Thankfully, I noticed before moving a really large VM.

Sigh.  I was wondering what was up with the speed and then my eye caught
the CAT5 marking.  Off to the printer it goes.





*ASB
**http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
**Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market…***






On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.
>  No difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
> smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
> continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)
>
> Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that
> goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow
> for me.
>
>
>
>
>
> *ASB
> **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
> **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security)
> for the SMB market…***
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:
>
>>  Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it,
>> think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
>> looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
>> the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *ASB*
>>
>> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
>>
>> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…*
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> ****
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>>
>> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
>> handled by the guest VM’s.
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>>
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>>
>>  
>>
>> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
>> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server
>> isn't what your looking for. 
>>
>> *Christopher Bodnar*
>> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
>> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>>
>> Tel 610-807-6459
>> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
>> christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>>
>>
>> *
>> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America*
>> *
>> *www.guardianlife.com 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:David Lum 
>> To:"NT System Admin Issues" <
>> ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>> Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM
>> Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
>>  --
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789
>>
>> It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not
>> go to 2012.
>>
>> Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I
>> go from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively
>> server core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything
>> obvious?
>>
>> I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least
>> protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but
>> technically simple. Time for more research.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> *From:* Christopher Bodnar 
>> [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
>> *
>> Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 20

Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

I migrated one server live and one that was shutdown from 2012 to 2012.  No
difference in the operation other than speed.  The one that was off was
smaller, which I'm sure helped, but it was faster.  The one that was up
continued to run without me losing more than a few pings.  It was sweet. :)

Now, I'm upgrading the other server with 6 VMs on it.  We'll see how that
goes.  LOLThe one-by-one migration from 2008-R2 to 2012 was too slow
for me.





*ASB
**http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>*
**Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations & Information Security) for
the SMB market…***






On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM’s on it,
> think I’ll try the migration tonight myself….
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> ** **
>
> Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
> looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
> the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.
>
>
> 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *ASB*
>
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>
>
> *Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…*
>
>  
>
>
>
> 
>
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:
>
> It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
> handled by the guest VM’s.
>
>  
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
>  
>
> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server
> isn't what your looking for. 
>
> *Christopher Bodnar*
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
> christopher_bod...@glic.com ****
>
>
> *
> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America*
> *
> *www.guardianlife.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:David Lum 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM
> Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
>  --
>
>
>
>
> This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789
>
> It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not
> go to 2012.
>
> Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I
> go from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively
> server core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything
> obvious?
>
> I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least
> protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but
> technically simple. Time for more research.
>
> Dave
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar 
> [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *
> Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM*
> To:* NT System Admin Issues*
> Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> And the Hyper-V version is free. 
>
> *Christopher Bodnar*
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 *
> *christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>
> *
>
> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America**
>
> *www.guardianlife.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:Mike Hoffman 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:12/05/2012 11:28 AM
> Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
>
>  
>  --
>
>
>
>
>
> What about 2012 – 4Tb limit.
>  *
> From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ] *
> Sent:* 05 December 2012 16:15*
> To:* NT System Admin Issues*
> Subject:* Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+
> 2008 R2 Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V
> guests? 64-bit 

RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[David Lum]

Cool. At home I have a 2008 R2 server running Hyper-V and 2 VM's on it, think 
I'll try the migration tonight myself

Dave

From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 3:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's looks 
like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using the new 
Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.






ASB


http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker<http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>


Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market...





On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum 
mailto:david@nwea.org>> wrote:
It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being handled 
by the guest VM's.

From: Christopher Bodnar 
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it requires 
any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server isn't what 
your looking for.
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>

[cid:image001.jpg@01CDD379.0F132970]

The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America

www.guardianlife.com<http://www.guardianlife.com/>







From:David Lum mailto:david@nwea.org>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:    12/05/2012 01:48 PM
Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB




This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789

It can be argued that if I'm going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not go to 
2012.

Next questionhow nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I go 
from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively server 
core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything obvious?

I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least 
protecting the VM's themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but 
technically simple. Time for more research.

Dave

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

And the Hyper-V version is free.
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
christopher_bod...@glic.com<mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com>

[cid:image001.jpg@01CDD379.0F132970]

The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America

www.guardianlife.com<http://www.guardianlife.com/>








From:Mike Hoffman mailto:m...@drumbrae.net>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:12/05/2012 11:28 AM
Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB






What about 2012 - 4Tb limit.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 05 December 2012 16:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ 2008 R2 
Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V guests? 64-bit 
Server Standard only recognizes 32GB...
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 
503.267.9764


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Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

Well, VM Host #1 just rebooted successfully after the upgrade, and it's
looks like all is well.  I'm going to practice moving around some VMs using
the new Live Migration functionality and see how it plays out.





*ASB*

*http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* <http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker>**

*Providing Expert Technology Consulting Services for the SMB market…*






On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 5:23 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being
> handled by the guest VM’s.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> ** **
>
> I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it
> requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server
> isn't what your looking for. 
>
> *Christopher Bodnar*
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
> christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>
>
> *
> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America*
> *
> *www.guardianlife.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:        David Lum 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM
> Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
>  --
>
>
>
>
> This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789
>
> It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not
> go to 2012.
>
> Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I
> go from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively
> server core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything
> obvious?
>
> I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least
> protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but
> technically simple. Time for more research.
>
> Dave
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar 
> [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *
> Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM*
> To:* NT System Admin Issues*
> Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> And the Hyper-V version is free. 
>
> *Christopher Bodnar*
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 *
> *christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>
> *
>
> The Guardian Life Insurance Company of America**
>
> *www.guardianlife.com 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:Mike Hoffman 
> To:"NT System Admin Issues"  >
> Date:12/05/2012 11:28 AM
> Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
>
> ** **
>  --
>
>
>
>
>
> What about 2012 – 4Tb limit.
>  *
> From:* David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org ] *
> Sent:* 05 December 2012 16:15*
> To:* NT System Admin Issues*
> Subject:* Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+
> 2008 R2 Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V
> guests? 64-bit Server Standard only recognizes 32GB… *
> David Lum*
> Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
>   
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Andrew S. Baker]

VM Migration is pretty easy no matter how you look at it.

I'm in the process *right now* of migrating some VMs from a 2008-R2 box to
a new 2012 box.   The first two that I exported then imported came in
flawlessly.

I'm now looking to upgrade the older 2008-R2 box to 2012 and see how it
handles the other, non-critical VMs I left behind.

http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithmayer/archive/2012/09/13/migrating-to-microsoft-hyper-v-server-2012-from-2008-r2-and-vmware-winserv-hyperv-itpro-vmware.aspx#.UL_LkIfO3vZ







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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:48 PM, David Lum  wrote:

>  This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789
>
> ** **
>
> It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not
> go to 2012.
>
> ** **
>
> Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I
> go from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively
> server core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything
> obvious?
>
> ** **
>
> I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least
> protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but
> technically simple. Time for more research.
>
> ** **
>
> Dave
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
>
> ** **
>
> And the Hyper-V version is free.
>
> 
>
> *Christopher Bodnar*
> Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise
> Architecture and Engineering Services 
>
> Tel 610-807-6459
> 3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
> christopher_bod...@glic.com 
>
>
> *
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> What about 2012 – 4Tb limit.
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RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[David Lum]

It only needs to host, I already have all those other functions being handled 
by the guest VM’s.

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 12:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it requires 
any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V server isn't what 
your looking for.
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
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From:David Lum mailto:david@nwea.org>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:12/05/2012 01:48 PM
Subject:    RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB




This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789

It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not go to 
2012.

Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I go 
from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively server 
core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything obvious?

I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least 
protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but 
technically simple. Time for more research.

Dave

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

And the Hyper-V version is free.
Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
christopher_bod...@glic.com

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From:Mike Hoffman mailto:m...@drumbrae.net>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:        12/05/2012 11:28 AM
Subject:RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB






What about 2012 – 4Tb limit.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 05 December 2012 16:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ 2008 R2 
Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V guests? 64-bit 
Server Standard only recognizes 32GB…
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Christopher Bodnar]

I think it only comes down to what this box needs to do for you? If it 
requires any other roles (DHCP, WINS, DNS, DC, etc) then Hyper-V 
server isn't what your looking for. 

Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise 
Architecture and Engineering Services 
Tel 610-807-6459 
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
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From:   David Lum 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   12/05/2012 01:48 PM
Subject:    RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB



This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789
 
It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not 
go to 2012.
 
Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I 
go from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively 
server core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking 
anything obvious?
 
I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least 
protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but 
technically simple. Time for more research.
 
Dave
 
From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
 
And the Hyper-V version is free. 


Christopher Bodnar 
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise 
Architecture and Engineering Services 
Tel 610-807-6459 
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017 
christopher_bod...@glic.com 


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From:Mike Hoffman  
To:"NT System Admin Issues"  
Date:12/05/2012 11:28 AM 
Subject:        RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 




What about 2012 – 4Tb limit. 
  
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: 05 December 2012 16:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB 
  
I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ 
2008 R2 Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V 
guests? 64-bit Server Standard only recognizes 32GB… 
David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764 
  
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RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[David Lum]

This makes it look like the free 2008 R2 Hyper-V server supports 1TB:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj647789

It can be argued that if I’m going to change Hyper-V host OS then why not go to 
2012.

Next question….how nervous should I be about the guests if on the host I go 
from full 2008 w/ Hyper-V as the host to 2012 Hyper-V (effectively server 
core). Seems pretty simple on the surface, am I overlooking anything obvious?

I guess the fallback would be to reinstall the full 2008 R2 OS, as least 
protecting the VM’s themselves is pretty straightforward. Time eater, but 
technically simple. Time for more research.

Dave

From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 8:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

And the Hyper-V version is free.

Christopher Bodnar
Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture 
and Engineering Services

Tel 610-807-6459
3900 Burgess Place, Bethlehem, PA 18017
christopher_bod...@glic.com

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From:Mike Hoffman mailto:m...@drumbrae.net>>
To:"NT System Admin Issues" 
mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>>
Date:12/05/2012 11:28 AM
Subject:    RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB




What about 2012 – 4Tb limit.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 05 December 2012 16:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ 2008 R2 
Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V guests? 64-bit 
Server Standard only recognizes 32GB…
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Christopher Bodnar]

And the Hyper-V version is free. 



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From:   Mike Hoffman 
To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Date:   12/05/2012 11:28 AM
Subject:    RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB



What about 2012 – 4Tb limit.
 
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] 
Sent: 05 December 2012 16:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB
 
I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ 
2008 R2 Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V 
guests? 64-bit Server Standard only recognizes 32GB…
David Lum 
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
 
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Re: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Steve Ens]

Go with Server 2012, the Hyper V is again improved and I think it supports
more RAM.  Did I say that Server 2012 rocks?


On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM, David Lum  wrote:

>  I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+
> 2008 R2 Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V
> guests? 64-bit Server Standard only recognizes 32GB…
>
> *David Lum*
> Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
> Office 503.548.5229 //* *Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764
>
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RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Webster]

Is Server 2012 not an option for you?

Thanks


Webster

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Subject: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ 2008 R2 
Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V guests? 64-bit 
Server Standard only recognizes 32GB...

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RE: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

[Mike Hoffman]

What about 2012 - 4Tb limit.

From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 05 December 2012 16:15
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Cheapest way to get Hyper-V and 64GB

I have a client system that can physically hold 64GB of RAM, is $2000+ 2008 R2 
Server Enterprise the only way to use that much RAM with Hyper-V guests? 64-bit 
Server Standard only recognizes 32GB...
David Lum
Sr. Systems Engineer // NWEATM
Office 503.548.5229 // Cell (voice/text) 503.267.9764


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