RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-09 Thread Klint Price
Some of us still have entry level tech's.  I would rather make it harder to get 
it to work, than have a oops, everyone now has full rights to the CEO's 
personal folder.  On the rare occasion that a tech goofs on permissions, they 
have to goof twice if using shares.

-Original Message-
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk 
to Another

Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?

I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
(or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
file level.

I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.

2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




-- 
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker
By default, 2008 shares them as Administrator:F and nothing else.  :)

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 Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

 Win2k3 shares folders as Everyone: R

 Doesn't Win2k8 do the same?

 Cheers
 Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Friday, 4 September 2009 9:19 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN
 Disk to Another

 Which reminds me: the default closed share perms on new shares in Win2K8
 are annoying.

 -sc

  -Original Message-
  From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:47 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One
  SAN Disk to Another
 
  Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?
 
  I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
  (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
  to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
  file level.
 
  I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
  and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
  reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.
 
  2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
   What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from
  one
   SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy
  the
   NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a
  large
   amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to
  have
   to recreate all the shares.
  
   The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
   critical updates installed.
  
   Any help will be greatly appreciated.
  
   Thanks, Terri


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RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-08 Thread Ken Schaefer
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From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 10:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk 
to Another

By default, 2008 shares them as Administrator:F and nothing else.  :)

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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I personally prefer it.   I like it since 2003 made the default for everyone
READ rather than FULL

I'll go against the conventional wisdom and say that I like the additional
layers offered by having the option for both SHARE and FILE perms.

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On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:

 Which reminds me: the default closed share perms on new shares in Win2K8
 are annoying.

 -sc

  -Original Message-
  From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:47 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One
  SAN Disk to Another
 
  Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?
 
  I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
  (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
  to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
  file level.
 
  I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
  and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
  reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.
 
  2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
   What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from
  one
   SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy
  the
   NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a
  large
   amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to
  have
   to recreate all the shares.
  
   The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
   critical updates installed.
  
   Any help will be greatly appreciated.
  
   Thanks, Terri
  



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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-08 Thread Michael Leone
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Ken Schaeferk...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 Win2k3 shares folders as Everyone: R

We always change that to AUTHENTICATED USERS, rather than EVERYONE.

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Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-08 Thread James Rankin
I think it's been mentioned before that in Windows 2003, there is little or
no difference between Authenticated Users and Everyone nowcan't remember
the exact technical details offhand though :-(

2009/9/8 Michael Leone oozerd...@gmail.com

 On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Ken Schaeferk...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
  Win2k3 shares folders as Everyone: R

 We always change that to AUTHENTICATED USERS, rather than EVERYONE.

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




-- 
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such
a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-08 Thread Ken Schaefer
Fair enough. But unless you enable the Guest account (or are worried it may be 
enabled), you aren't achieving anything AFAIK, except causing work for yourself.

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Michael Leone [mailto:oozerd...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 8 September 2009 11:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk 
to Another

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Ken Schaeferk...@adopenstatic.com wrote:
 Win2k3 shares folders as Everyone: R

We always change that to AUTHENTICATED USERS, rather than EVERYONE.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-08 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I setup a share for the Temp folder on my 2008 system and it only gave me
Administrator:F

I did a couple others just now, and they behaved as 2003 does, and as your
example shows below.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker


On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

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 *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 September 2009 10:00 PM
 *To:* NT System Admin Issues
 *Subject:* Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One
 SAN Disk to Another



 By default, 2008 shares them as Administrator:F and nothing else.  :)

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  Providing Competitive Advantage through Effective IT Leadership









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RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-07 Thread Ken Schaefer
Win2k3 shares folders as Everyone: R

Doesn't Win2k8 do the same? 

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, 4 September 2009 9:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk 
to Another

Which reminds me: the default closed share perms on new shares in Win2K8 are 
annoying.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One 
 SAN Disk to Another
 
 Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?
 
 I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days 
 (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS) 
 to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a 
 file level.
 
 I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head 
 and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the 
 reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.
 
 2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
  What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from
 one
  SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy
 the
  NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a
 large
  amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to
 have
  to recreate all the shares.
 
  The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all 
  critical updates installed.
 
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks, Terri


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-07 Thread Jon Harris
I believe that is correct.  I agree I also agree to just set all permissions
to something similar to Everyone F, but I usually set them to domain users
full not everyone.

Jon

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote:

 Win2k3 shares folders as Everyone: R

 Doesn't Win2k8 do the same?

 Cheers
 Ken

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
 Sent: Friday, 4 September 2009 9:19 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN
 Disk to Another

 Which reminds me: the default closed share perms on new shares in Win2K8
 are annoying.

 -sc

  -Original Message-
  From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
  Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:47 AM
  To: NT System Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One
  SAN Disk to Another
 
  Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?
 
  I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
  (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
  to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
  file level.
 
  I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
  and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
  reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.
 
  2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
   What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from
  one
   SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy
  the
   NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a
  large
   amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to
  have
   to recreate all the shares.
  
   The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
   critical updates installed.
  
   Any help will be greatly appreciated.
  
   Thanks, Terri


 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread James Rankin
Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?

I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
(or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
file level.

I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.

2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~




-- 
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Terri Esham
That's exactly what I do, but I need the folders to not lose their share
permissions so users can still access the share over the network.

Thanks, Terri

Brian Desmond said the following on 9/3/2009 10:07 PM:
 Hi Terri-

 Others have chimed in with tools, but, I'll add the other part. Why are you 
 using share permissions? They aren't granular and they just add confusion. 
 Manage all your ACLs on NTFS (where you can do whatever you want more or 
 less), and just grant Everyone:FC on shares.

 Thanks,
 Brian Desmond
 br...@briandesmond.com

 c - 312.731.3132

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 -Original Message-
 From: Terri Esham [mailto:terri.es...@noaa.gov]
 Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:55 PM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to 
 Another

 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one SAN 
 disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the NTFS 
 permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large amount of 
 folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have to recreate all 
 the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all critical 
 updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
 http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Terri Esham
That is what I do.  I set the share permission to everyone full rights
and use NTFS permissions.  I obviously, didn't word my problem
correctly.  I just need the folders to show up as a share once they are
moved so users can access them over the network.

Thanks, Terri

James Rankin said the following on 9/4/2009 3:46 AM:
 Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?

 I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
 (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
 to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
 file level.

 I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
 and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
 reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.

 2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
   
 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

 



   

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Terri Esham
I think I've solved my problem.  I might be able to use the Microsoft
File Server Migration tool to move the files.  I'll try that.

Thanks for all your help.

Terri

Jonathan Link said the following on 9/3/2009 9:18 PM:
 And for copying, I'm partial to robocopy for the mirroring/security
 copying.  Mirroring is useful if you have a narrow window for a
 transition.  Run it once to do the bulk initial copy, then again right
 before the transition to the new disk/volue/device/whatever.

 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
 mailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Share permissions can be copied via PERMCOPY from one of the older
 resource kits (2000 or 2003, IIRC)

 See also:  http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/?File=Perms.TXT
 http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/?File=Perms.TXT and
 http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=DupPerms-A.BAT
 http://kb.ultratech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=DupPerms-A.BAT

 -ASB
  http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker




 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov
 mailto:terri.es...@noaa.gov wrote:

 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions
 from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did
 copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move
 a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't
 want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri


  

  


  

  

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread James Rankin
Back in the day you used to have to export Registry permissions for
the shares, but I think in this modern age the File Server Migration
Tool does the trick as mentioned by someone earlier

2009/9/4 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
 That is what I do.  I set the share permission to everyone full rights and
 use NTFS permissions.  I obviously, didn't word my problem correctly.  I
 just need the folders to show up as a share once they are moved so users can
 access them over the network.

 Thanks, Terri

 James Rankin said the following on 9/4/2009 3:46 AM:

 Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?

 I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
 (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
 to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
 file level.

 I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
 and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
 reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.

 2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:


 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri

 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~











-- 
On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
could provoke such a question.

http://raythestray.blogspot.com

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Ian Roche
I used Robocopy to migrate the company fil servers data onto new hardware 
.Retaing all permissions I used the /COPYALL switch and it worked a treat.
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-04 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Which reminds me: the default closed share perms on new shares in Win2K8 are 
annoying.

-sc

 -Original Message-
 From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:47 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One
 SAN Disk to Another
 
 Whoa! Someone uses share permissions?
 
 I thought share permissions were just a hangover from the Win9x days
 (or when people installed NT4 with FAT32 file system instead of NTFS)
 to provide some security for those systems that couldn't do it on a
 file level.
 
 I'd use this opportunity to knock the share permissions on the head
 and drop them to Everyone:Full Control. They generally end up as the
 reason you can't work out why someone can't access a file.
 
 2009/9/3 Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov:
  What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from
 one
  SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy
 the
  NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a
 large
  amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to
 have
  to recreate all the shares.
 
  The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
  critical updates installed.
 
  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks, Terri
 
  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
  ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~
 
 
 
 
 --
 On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put
 into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am
 not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that
 could provoke such a question.
 
 http://raythestray.blogspot.com
 
 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-03 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Share permissions can be copied via PERMCOPY from one of the older resource
kits (2000 or 2003, IIRC)

See also:  http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/?File=Perms.TXT and
http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=DupPerms-A.BAT

-ASB
 http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker



On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov wrote:

 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-03 Thread Jonathan Link
And for copying, I'm partial to robocopy for the mirroring/security
copying.  Mirroring is useful if you have a narrow window for a transition.
Run it once to do the bulk initial copy, then again right before the
transition to the new disk/volue/device/whatever.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Share permissions can be copied via PERMCOPY from one of the older resource
 kits (2000 or 2003, IIRC)

 See also:  
 http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/?File=Perms.TXThttp://kb.ultratech-llc.com/?File=Perms.TXTand
 http://KB.UltraTech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=DupPerms-A.BAThttp://kb.ultratech-llc.com/Scripts/?File=DupPerms-A.BAT

 -ASB
  http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker




 On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Terri Esham terri.es...@noaa.gov wrote:

 What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one
 SAN disk to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the
 NTFS permission but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large
 amount of folders from one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have
 to recreate all the shares.

 The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all
 critical updates installed.

 Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Terri








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RE: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to Another

2009-09-03 Thread Brian Desmond
Hi Terri-

Others have chimed in with tools, but, I'll add the other part. Why are you 
using share permissions? They aren't granular and they just add confusion. 
Manage all your ACLs on NTFS (where you can do whatever you want more or less), 
and just grant Everyone:FC on shares.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
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-Original Message-
From: Terri Esham [mailto:terri.es...@noaa.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 3:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Free Utility to Copy Share and NTFS Permissions from One SAN Disk to 
Another

What is the best free tool to copy share and NTFS permissions from one SAN disk 
to another.  I have already tried Robocopy and it did copy the NTFS permission 
but not the Share permissions.  I need to move a large amount of folders from 
one SAN disk to another and I don't want to have to recreate all the shares.

The file server is running Windows 2008 Standard Server, SP2, all critical 
updates installed.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Terri

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~