Re: ISA Server 2006 SP1
LOL, erm no, but I do use group policy to disable the user's ability to make my life miserable... 2008/5/26 Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander and such... We use it, we love it, do you run your workstations on a 'cut down' linux kernel as well? G -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 5:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall. Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware box. -Original Message- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think that's fair. If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good firewalls out there. ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers, you might be happy with another firewall. HTH, Tom -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 If it's not ISA, it's crap! -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1 From another list http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-serv ice- pack-1-features.aspx ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ -- Regards, Clayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://alsipius.com ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
There is another type of firewall that doesn't use software? :) -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall. Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware box. -Original Message- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think that's fair. If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good firewalls out there. ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers, you might be happy with another firewall. HTH, Tom -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 If it's not ISA, it's crap! -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1 From another list http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-serv ice- pack-1-features.aspx ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall. Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware box. -Original Message- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think that's fair. If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good firewalls out there. ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers, you might be happy with another firewall. HTH, Tom -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 If it's not ISA, it's crap! -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1 From another list http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-serv ice- pack-1-features.aspx ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
Lol :P you know what I mean, dedicated box, not one based on a standard windows OS (yes I know loads of others use a linux kernel, but it's cut down) -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 26 May 2008 20:40 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 There is another type of firewall that doesn't use software? :) -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall. Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware box. -Original Message- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think that's fair. If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good firewalls out there. ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers, you might be happy with another firewall. HTH, Tom -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 If it's not ISA, it's crap! -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1 From another list http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-serv ice- pack-1-features.aspx ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. What's good for the goose is not good for the gander and such... We use it, we love it, do you run your workstations on a 'cut down' linux kernel as well? G -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 5:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall. Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware box. -Original Message- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think that's fair. If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good firewalls out there. ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers, you might be happy with another firewall. HTH, Tom -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 If it's not ISA, it's crap! -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1 From another list http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-serv ice- pack-1-features.aspx ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
I don't think this is really a valid argument anymore. There have been bugger all vulnerabilities in ISA Server. It installs its own hardened TCP/IP stack. And provided you have rock-solid drivers for whatever hardware you are using, then it's a stable system. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 6:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 Lol :P you know what I mean, dedicated box, not one based on a standard windows OS (yes I know loads of others use a linux kernel, but it's cut down) -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 26 May 2008 20:40 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 There is another type of firewall that doesn't use software? :) -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall. Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware box. -Original Message- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think that's fair. If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good firewalls out there. ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers, you might be happy with another firewall. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
-1 Webster -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 If it's not ISA, it's crap! -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1 From another list http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006- service- pack-1-features.aspx ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
I wouldn't go that far, but I will say that there have been no documented vulnerabilities...:) -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 9:51 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think this is really a valid argument anymore. There have been bugger all vulnerabilities in ISA Server. It installs its own hardened TCP/IP stack. And provided you have rock-solid drivers for whatever hardware you are using, then it's a stable system. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 6:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 Lol :P you know what I mean, dedicated box, not one based on a standard windows OS (yes I know loads of others use a linux kernel, but it's cut down) -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: 26 May 2008 20:40 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 There is another type of firewall that doesn't use software? :) -Original Message- From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 4:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall. Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware box. -Original Message- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1 I don't think that's fair. If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good firewalls out there. ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers, you might be happy with another firewall. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1
If it's not ISA, it's crap! -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:23 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1 From another list http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-service- pack-1-features.aspx ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
