Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
And McAfee only exacerbates that problem... :) -ASB On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Rod Trent rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: Computers still need to be updated and Operating Systems still need to be patched. *From:* Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] *Sent:* Friday, August 20, 2010 6:02 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion As you can see, I stayed away from making any comments… but I did make some comments to PC Mag here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368056,00.asp More likely is the fact that the MBAs drove a good part of this decision: http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/19/technology/intel_mcafee_deal/ Value for Intel shareholders. Intel has $17.8 billion cash on hand, which is just sitting there, earning very little for the company's shareholders. So what to do with that cash? Intel could buy a company that it thinks will generate income for its investors. Ken Hackel, president of CreditTrends.com and author of Security Valuation and Risk Analysis, estimated that Intel's total cost of capital on the McAfee purchase would be about 4%, but the cash return on its invested capital would probably be around 8%.Software in general is a much higher-margin business than hardware, and McAfee is no exception, with a gross margin near 75%. Intel's is around 55%. Other than that, it doesn’t make a huge amount of sense. Intel has had a weak track record buying software companies, and many are scratching their heads. Alex *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:21 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Mr. Alex E., If you’re lurking, I’d love to hear\read what you think…. Shook *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:17 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
As you can see, I stayed away from making any comments... but I did make some comments to PC Mag here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368056,00.asp More likely is the fact that the MBAs drove a good part of this decision: http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/19/technology/intel_mcafee_deal/ Value for Intel shareholders. Intel has $17.8 billion cash on hand, which is just sitting there, earning very little for the company's shareholders. So what to do with that cash? Intel could buy a company that it thinks will generate income for its investors. Ken Hackel, president of CreditTrends.com and author of Security Valuation and Risk Analysis, estimated that Intel's total cost of capital on the McAfee purchase would be about 4%, but the cash return on its invested capital would probably be around 8%.Software in general is a much higher-margin business than hardware, and McAfee is no exception, with a gross margin near 75%. Intel's is around 55%. Other than that, it doesn't make a huge amount of sense. Intel has had a weak track record buying software companies, and many are scratching their heads. Alex From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Mr. Alex E., If you're lurking, I'd love to hear\read what you think Shook From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. ASB (My XeeSM Profile)http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... Signature powered by WiseStamphttp://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Computers still need to be updated and Operating Systems still need to be patched. From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 6:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion As you can see, I stayed away from making any comments. but I did make some comments to PC Mag here: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2368056,00.asp More likely is the fact that the MBAs drove a good part of this decision: http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/19/technology/intel_mcafee_deal/ Value for Intel shareholders. Intel has $17.8 billion cash on hand, which is just sitting there, earning very little for the company's shareholders. So what to do with that cash? Intel could buy a company that it thinks will generate income for its investors. Ken Hackel, president of CreditTrends.com and author of Security Valuation and Risk Analysis, estimated that Intel's total cost of capital on the McAfee purchase would be about 4%, but the cash return on its invested capital would probably be around 8%.Software in general is a much higher-margin business than hardware, and McAfee is no exception, with a gross margin near 75%. Intel's is around 55%. Other than that, it doesn't make a huge amount of sense. Intel has had a weak track record buying software companies, and many are scratching their heads. Alex From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Mr. Alex E., If you're lurking, I'd love to hear\read what you think.. Shook From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. ASB (My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... Signature powered by http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install WiseStamp On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Wow McCrap on a chip. 7.68B? Their worth that much? Surprise is not the word. From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately via e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake; then, delete this e-mail from your system. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
I'm guessing that the bigger surprise is still to come. Ask yourself this - what would a chip company need with security software? From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Here is a surprise. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
AMD to get Symantec Endpoint Protection integrated on their chips next then. Imagine the speed of those babies. On 19 August 2010 14:16, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Maybe putting them on firmware is the only way to make them fast. LOL Of course, the die size will be massive. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:18 AM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: AMD to get Symantec Endpoint Protection integrated on their chips next then. Imagine the speed of those babies. On 19 August 2010 14:16, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ -- On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
On that last one, does that mean AMD will acquire Symantec? Or, perhaps, AVG? :) On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Mr. Alex E., If you're lurking, I'd love to hear\read what you think Shook From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. ASB (My XeeSM Profile)http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... Signature powered by WiseStamphttp://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Just what my Intel stock needed.
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Here is a surprise...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498
Simon.
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Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Surprising indeed. Intel got into and out of that business at least once before. Symantec's corporate anti-virus product used to be Intel LANDesk Virus Protection. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Intel owning a security product is NOT a new concept ... remember Intel LanDesk and LanProtect Antivirus ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
It's more important now than it was then. Look for this to impact mobile devices more than desktops/laptops. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Intel owning a security product is NOT a new concept ... remember Intel LanDesk and LanProtect Antivirus ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. ASB (My XeeSM Profile) http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... Signature powered by http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install WiseStamp On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Remember that they left that market?!? I'm not saying that Intel has no business with security. I'm saying that swallowing a $7.7B pig to get back into that game is surprising. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Erik Goldoff egold...@gmail.com wrote: Intel owning a security product is NOT a new concept ... remember Intel LanDesk and LanProtect Antivirus ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.comwrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
H. Maybe that explains the McCrappy customer service we've been getting from them. From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 8:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
So.. Intel going to put McCrappy AV on their chips? Guess I will be looking
at AMD now.
From: Eldridge, Dave [mailto:d...@parkviewmc.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 6:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Wow McCrap on a chip. 7.68B? Their worth that much? Surprise is not the
word.
From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Here is a surprise.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498
Simon.
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RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
LOL, U have stock? Fear... Tech is ebil these days...
Z
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From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
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Just what my Intel stock needed.
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
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www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Here is a surprise...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498
Simon.
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RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Well, my Apple stock has done quite nicely-I definitely have no complaints
there. :)
Intel, though, is another story. But I do continue to have confidence in their
future, so I've held my shares.
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
LOL, U have stock? Fear... Tech is ebil these days...
Z
Edward E. Ziots
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From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Just what my Intel stock needed.
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 7:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Here is a surprise...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498
Simon.
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RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Really? We are implementing a mobile device AV/malware product (at great expense), but what's the real threat landscape? Enterprise products (WinMo, Blackberry) already include the ability to lock down what can run on the device. Unless Intel is planning to hawk a product to SOHO markets (which I doubt), I don't think this is about a big mobile device play. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion It's more important now than it was then. Look for this to impact mobile devices more than desktops/laptops. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Intel owning a security product is NOT a new concept ... remember Intel LanDesk and LanProtect Antivirus ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.commailto:asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. ASB (My XeeSM Profile)http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... Signature powered by WiseStamphttp://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Consider that Intel could hawk to the wireless providers or phone manufacturers, or both. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Really? We are implementing a mobile device AV/malware product (at great expense), but what’s the real threat landscape? Enterprise products (WinMo, Blackberry) already include the ability to lock down what can run on the device. Unless Intel is planning to hawk a product to SOHO markets (which I doubt), I don’t think this is about a big mobile device play. Cheers Ken *From:* Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] *Sent:* Thursday, 19 August 2010 9:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion It’s more important now than it was then. Look for this to impact mobile devices more than desktops/laptops. *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:27 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Intel owning a security product is NOT a new concept ... remember Intel LanDesk and LanProtect Antivirus ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise… http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Everything is about a mobile device play these days. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Consider that Intel could hawk to the wireless providers or phone manufacturers, or both. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Really? We are implementing a mobile device AV/malware product (at great expense), but what's the real threat landscape? Enterprise products (WinMo, Blackberry) already include the ability to lock down what can run on the device. Unless Intel is planning to hawk a product to SOHO markets (which I doubt), I don't think this is about a big mobile device play. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion It's more important now than it was then. Look for this to impact mobile devices more than desktops/laptops. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Intel owning a security product is NOT a new concept ... remember Intel LanDesk and LanProtect Antivirus ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. ASB (My XeeSM Profile) http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... Signature powered by http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install WiseStamp On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise. http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Actually there is a quite a threat landscape on mobile devices, and its only going to get worse, because of the lack of controls on them. Think a remote wipe of a mobile device ( phone, BB, Iphone, Android, etc al) is forensically sound... think again it isn't and the remote-wipe is easy to bypass, pull the darn batter from the phone, attach a boot device to the phone recover the keys that are on the device and you got all the data on the phone itself. Now imagine its your CEO's phone and his emails, contacts and other company pertinent information is on the phone and now in the hands of the bad guys. I have to agree with Rod is defintely a mobile device power play these days, but again they are so insecure, I personally wouldn't be using them to store anything of value. If you have had the pleasure of listening or being apart of one of Aaron Turner (IANS Research Facility) discussions on the latest on mobile device security ( or lack thereof), you will better understand how really insecure and behind the times we are, and the risks we are taking when it comes to these devices. Aaron Turner Industry Experience: Before joining INL as the Cybersecurity Strategist for the National Homeland Security division, Mr. Turner worked in several of Microsoft's security divisions. He was also the Security Readiness Manager for Microsoft's Sales, Marketing, and Services Group where he led the development of information security curriculum. He has designed security solutions and responded to incidents in more than 25 countries around the world. Expertise: Information protection * Intellectual property protection * Critical infrastructure/government * Encryption * Host IDS * Network architecture * Network IDS * Data classification * Mobile security * Wireless security * Threat management Just google Aaron Turner Mobile Phone security. Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:37 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Everything is about a mobile device play these days. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 12:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Consider that Intel could hawk to the wireless providers or phone manufacturers, or both. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: Really? We are implementing a mobile device AV/malware product (at great expense), but what's the real threat landscape? Enterprise products (WinMo, Blackberry) already include the ability to lock down what can run on the device. Unless Intel is planning to hawk a product to SOHO markets (which I doubt), I don't think this is about a big mobile device play. Cheers Ken From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 9:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion It's more important now than it was then. Look for this to impact mobile devices more than desktops/laptops. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Intel owning a security product is NOT a new concept ... remember Intel LanDesk and LanProtect Antivirus ? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote: Yow!!! Now that is a huge surprise. I'm not sure what to be more scared about: -- That Intel feels it needs integrated security solutions -- That it feels that McCrappy was the best organization to purchase to get that capability -- That we might have integrated McCrappy on our systems whether we like it or not in a few months/years -- That AMD or other chipmakers might do something similar to avoid being left behind. ASB (My XeeSM Profile) http://xeesm.com/AndrewBaker Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Simon Butler si...@sembee.co.uk wrote: Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~image001.jpgimage003.jpg
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
A couple people on Slashdot have pointed out that McAfee bought NAI who bought PGP and thus owns the rights to various encryption stuff, which Intel may be interested in. Of course, several have also joked that Intel just wants to make sure McAfee stays bloated so they can sell more processor upgrades. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
PGP was just acquired by Symantec. So slashdot doesn't seem to be tracking well. On Thursday, August 19, 2010, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: A couple people on Slashdot have pointed out that McAfee bought NAI who bought PGP and thus owns the rights to various encryption stuff, which Intel may be interested in. Of course, several have also joked that Intel just wants to make sure McAfee stays bloated so they can sell more processor upgrades. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Yep. McAfee sold/spunoff PGP back a few years ago. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * Signature powered by WiseStamp http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: PGP was just acquired by Symantec. So slashdot doesn't seem to be tracking well. On Thursday, August 19, 2010, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: A couple people on Slashdot have pointed out that McAfee bought NAI who bought PGP and thus owns the rights to various encryption stuff, which Intel may be interested in. Of course, several have also joked that Intel just wants to make sure McAfee stays bloated so they can sell more processor upgrades. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: So slashdot doesn't seem to be tracking well. Like that's anything new. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
True dat. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: So slashdot doesn't seem to be tracking well. Like that's anything new. ;-) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
Hmm... AV on hardware, can't wait for the first false positive! :) From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion
But is it REALLY that much of a surprise? Remember Trusted Computing Platform Alliance from about 7 years ago? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Computing_Platform_Alliance This to me appears to possibly be a part of that strategy... Jonathan L. Raper, A+, MCSA, MCSE Technology Coordinator Eagle Physicians Associates, PA jra...@eaglemds.comBLOCKED::mailto:%20jra...@eaglemds.com www.eaglemds.comBLOCKED::http://www.eaglemds.com/ From: James Hill [mailto:james.h...@superamart.com.au] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 11:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Hmm... AV on hardware, can't wait for the first false positive! :) From: Simon Butler [mailto:si...@sembee.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, 19 August 2010 11:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Intel to buy McAfee for $7.68 billion Here is a surprise... http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-20014082-92.html?tag=nl.e498 Simon. -- Simon Butler MVP: Exchange, MCSE Sembee Ltd. e: si...@sembee.co.ukmailto:si...@sembee.co.uk w: http://www.sembee.co.uk/ w: http://www.amset.info/ w: http://blog.sembee.co.uk/ Any medical information contained in this electronic message is CONFIDENTIAL and privileged. It is unlawful for unauthorized persons to view, copy, disclose, or disseminate CONFIDENTIAL information. This electronic message may contain information that is confidential and/or legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the individual(s) and/or entity named as recipients in the message. If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and delete this material from your computer. Do not deliver, distribute or copy this message, and do not disclose its contents or take any action in reliance on the information that it contains. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
