RE: Looking for a DNS provider
I never said I was going to be switching registrars. I was just wondering why we weren't using our registrar for DNS. And it was suggested to me that perhaps this was done so that we can switch registrars in the event that we would have/want to. FYI - Discoveries like this happen all the time when you inherit a network. -Original Message- From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 7:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Why do you want talk about registrars like that? I mean, the way it comes across in your message, you do this often? I would think you would want a registrar that holds a higher level of confidence in such statements. Anyway, the point is if you register all your domains at the same registrar, then you gain ease and convenience in those areas for managing DNS. I don't use a tier 1 registrar, but the sub of TUCOWS that I use have not given me one reason to change in over 4 years of use. I'm all for splitting up services but those two go so nicely together I'm wondering why you want to do what you're doing. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider AH HAH! Bingo. I am willing to bet that is why we are using a different provider for DNS than our registrar. So that we can switch registrars with no problems. Thanks!!! -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Oh...and I was going to mention that I like using a dedicated provider for DNS since it makes changing any other part of your hosting environment easier - switching registrar, web host, etc. Not having to re-setup DNS when those changes are made is nice. - Andy O. From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider I was going to mention using the registrar, as I do myself. The ones that I have used all have this. It's just not enabled by default. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
I have always hosted my own DNS …… and whacked in an open-source spam filter solution there as well … been really handy for me and my customers. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 December 2007 05:53 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider I’m not sure why you find this “hard to believe” Reverse PTR records need to be registered by whoever currently “controls” the relevant IP address space. Check out how the reverse lookup DNS zone works. Cheers Ken From: Robert Cato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for a DNS provider NSOL is fine for A records, but they do not offer reverse DNS for MX records. I learned this mistake the hard way. They are one of the biggest brand names in the space and I found it hard to believe they did/do not provide this basic service required to properly handle MX records. Robert On Dec 28, 2007 9:58 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My registrar is Network Solutions - any reason I can't (or shouldn't) be using them? It looks like if they are hosting our DNS as well as our domain names, I can make DNS changes 24x7 (and at no additional cost). Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Looking for a DNS provider
I also strongly recommend EasyDNS. They have a few nice additional features: 1. Web redirection (basically a limited reverse proxy to get around port 80 blocks) 2. A system monitoring service (limited, but will verify your ports are open and working from offsite) 3. Outbound SMTP relay (again, to get around blocks by ISP's) 4. Will implement backup DNS if you are self-hosting Not as important for enterprise customers, but *very* handy if you have a residential service. They also have a knowledgeable staff that are easy to work for and will handle your registration for you if desired. -- Durf On Dec 29, 2007 4:10 PM, Erik Goldoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used EasyDNS in the past with very good results. Low cost, can buy 'blocks' for registering multiple domains DNS, has a web GUI available to you 24x7 so you make your own changes, you don't have to request and wait. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM -- -- Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute. But set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
I have a handful of domains at godaddy and for 8 bux a year cant see why I would change. They do my dns for me with that price, have never been down to my recollection, and have sexy girls in their commercials ;) I cant imagine moving a domain to save 2 dollars a year or something. I cant vouche for their web hosting or other services. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
I have used EasyDNS in the past with very good results. Low cost, can buy 'blocks' for registering multiple domains DNS, has a web GUI available to you 24x7 so you make your own changes, you don't have to request and wait. _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1201 - Release Date: 12/28/2007 11:51 AM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
Since no one has mentioned it I thought I would chime in. I have been using afraid.org for years, never any problems, fast transition, free, for basic package, nice and easy to manage http://freedns.afraid.org/ Greg -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2007 12:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for a DNS provider Good point. Splitting DNS service and registrar services offers limited protection from bastard domain registrars. Because the registrar controls the records that point to the DNS servers themselves. If you run into a dispute with your registrar (like GoDaddy shutting down sites whenever anyone asks) then they just point the nameservers at different DNS servers. If they also control the DNS itself, they can do this immediately vs. the 48 hour propogation time it may take to change NS records at the registry. Small comfort. More important is to stay away from unscrupulous domain registrars. Tucows is one of the best, but try wrestling a domain away from GoDaddy. I've dealt with the situation several times and it can be a nightmare. - Original Message - From: Mike Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Why do you want talk about registrars like that? I mean, the way it comes across in your message, you do this often? I would think you would want a registrar that holds a higher level of confidence in such statements. Anyway, the point is if you register all your domains at the same registrar, then you gain ease and convenience in those areas for managing DNS. I don't use a tier 1 registrar, but the sub of TUCOWS that I use have not given me one reason to change in over 4 years of use. I'm all for splitting up services but those two go so nicely together I'm wondering why you want to do what you're doing. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider AH HAH! Bingo. I am willing to bet that is why we are using a different provider for DNS than our registrar. So that we can switch registrars with no problems. Thanks!!! -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Oh...and I was going to mention that I like using a dedicated provider for DNS since it makes changing any other part of your hosting environment easier - switching registrar, web host, etc. Not having to re-setup DNS when those changes are made is nice. - Andy O. From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider I was going to mention using the registrar, as I do myself. The ones that I have used all have this. It's just not enabled by default. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Looking for a DNS provider
NSOL is fine for A records, but they do not offer reverse DNS for MX records. I learned this mistake the hard way. They are one of the biggest brand names in the space and I found it hard to believe they did/do not provide this basic service required to properly handle MX records. Robert On Dec 28, 2007 9:58 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My registrar is Network Solutions - any reason I can't (or shouldn't) be using them? It looks like if they are hosting our DNS as well as our domain names, I can make DNS changes 24x7 (and at no additional cost). Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
??? They can’t provide reverse DNS for address blocks that are not SWIPed to them or delegated to them. That’s simply the way DNS works. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Robert Cato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for a DNS provider NSOL is fine for A records, but they do not offer reverse DNS for MX records. I learned this mistake the hard way. They are one of the biggest brand names in the space and I found it hard to believe they did/do not provide this basic service required to properly handle MX records. Robert On Dec 28, 2007 9:58 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My registrar is Network Solutions - any reason I can't (or shouldn't) be using them? It looks like if they are hosting our DNS as well as our domain names, I can make DNS changes 24x7 (and at no additional cost). Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
I’m not sure why you find this “hard to believe” Reverse PTR records need to be registered by whoever currently “controls” the relevant IP address space. Check out how the reverse lookup DNS zone works. Cheers Ken From: Robert Cato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 30 December 2007 12:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for a DNS provider NSOL is fine for A records, but they do not offer reverse DNS for MX records. I learned this mistake the hard way. They are one of the biggest brand names in the space and I found it hard to believe they did/do not provide this basic service required to properly handle MX records. Robert On Dec 28, 2007 9:58 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My registrar is Network Solutions - any reason I can't (or shouldn't) be using them? It looks like if they are hosting our DNS as well as our domain names, I can make DNS changes 24x7 (and at no additional cost). Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
Been using DNS Made Easy for years, never had a problem with their DNS service, and prices are quite reasonable. http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com Carl _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
AOL mode Me too! /AOL mode Seriously, I've had no issues at all with them. ...Tim From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Been using DNS Made Easy for years, never had a problem with their DNS service, and prices are quite reasonable. http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com Carl From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
www.zoneedit.com I've been using it for many many years. It's free and easy. Mark - Two rules to success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
I know - that's why I am wondering why it wasn't setup w/ them in the first place. Hmmm From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider If they offer that service, then there should be no reason not to use them. Sounds like they're offering exactly what you're asking for... Joe Heaton From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider My registrar is Network Solutions - any reason I can't (or shouldn't) be using them? It looks like if they are hosting our DNS as well as our domain names, I can make DNS changes 24x7 (and at no additional cost). Thanks, Dave From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Been using DNS Made Easy for years, never had a problem with their DNS service, and prices are quite reasonable. http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com Carl From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
Does 1 zone = 1 domain? From: Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for a DNS provider I second Zoneedit. You can host up to 5 zones for free. On Dec 28, 2007 6:58 AM, Mark Boersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.zoneedit.com I've been using it for many many years. It's free and easy. Mark - Two rules to success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Looking for a DNS provider
Basically. You can create subdomains (www.domain.com, webmail.domain.com) inside a single zone.. On Dec 28, 2007 8:30 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does 1 zone = 1 domain? -- *From:* Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 11:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Looking for a DNS provider I second Zoneedit. You can host up to 5 zones for free. On Dec 28, 2007 6:58 AM, Mark Boersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.zoneedit.com I've been using it for many many years. It's free and easy. Mark - Two rules to success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Looking for a DNS provider
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNS_zone On Dec 28, 2007 11:30 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does 1 zone = 1 domain? -- *From:* Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 11:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Looking for a DNS provider I second Zoneedit. You can host up to 5 zones for free. On Dec 28, 2007 6:58 AM, Mark Boersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.zoneedit.com I've been using it for many many years. It's free and easy. Mark - Two rules to success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Looking for a DNS provider
AFAIK: Each unique namespace is its own DNS zone. Anything between a . is break in the namespace, and thus makes it unique. I dunno how ZoneEdit makes its own distinctions for the benefit of their services, but nested subdomains constitute multiple DNS zones. On Dec 28, 2007 11:44 AM, Eric Woodford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically. You can create subdomains (www.domain.com, webmail.domain.com) inside a single zone.. On Dec 28, 2007 8:30 AM, David Mazzaccaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does 1 zone = 1 domain? -- *From:* Eric Woodford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 11:19 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Looking for a DNS provider I second Zoneedit. You can host up to 5 zones for free. On Dec 28, 2007 6:58 AM, Mark Boersma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.zoneedit.com I've been using it for many many years. It's free and easy. Mark - Two rules to success in life: 1. Never tell people everything you know. *From:* David Mazzaccaro [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
I was going to mention using the registrar, as I do myself. The ones that I have used all have this. It's just not enabled by default. -- Mike Gill From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 8:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider I know - that's why I am wondering why it wasn't setup w/ them in the first place... Hmmm.. _ From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider If they offer that service, then there should be no reason not to use them. Sounds like they're offering exactly what you're asking for. Joe Heaton From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 6:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider My registrar is Network Solutions - any reason I can't (or shouldn't) be using them? It looks like if they are hosting our DNS as well as our domain names, I can make DNS changes 24x7 (and at no additional cost). Thanks, Dave _ From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:54 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Been using DNS Made Easy for years, never had a problem with their DNS service, and prices are quite reasonable. http://www.dnsmadeeasy.com Carl _ From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 9:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looking for a DNS provider I would like to be able to go online and add/modify/delete DNS records for my domains at any time (24x7). My current DNS provider (Paetec) is only available 9am-5pm M-F and I have to submit a DNS request to them, wait for them to respond to my request, assign the changes to an engineer, and then the changes are finally made. Any recommendations? Thanks, Dave No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.11/1200 - Release Date: 12/27/2007 1:34 PM ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
ZoneEdit considers a zone anything you need sub records for so the A record for sub.domain.com lives in the domain.com zone but if thats all you need its just a zone credit for domain.com. If you needed an MX record off the sub.domain.com it would be a new zone, according to ZoneEdit. I believe Ive even setup A records as sub1.sub2.domain.com and it only counted as 1 zone credit because it was under the domain.com zone and that's all I needed. The other things you can use zone credits for include adding a backup MX service they host, or adding additional name servers beyond the two they provide for free. I've been using them for years and have had no problems - I think I've had something like 30-40 zones with them. - Andy O. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 11:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looking for a DNS provider AFAIK: Each unique namespace is its own DNS zone. Anything between a . is break in the namespace, and thus makes it unique. I dunno how ZoneEdit makes its own distinctions for the benefit of their services, but nested subdomains constitute multiple DNS zones. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
AH HAH! Bingo. I am willing to bet that is why we are using a different provider for DNS than our registrar. So that we can switch registrars with no problems. Thanks!!! -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Oh...and I was going to mention that I like using a dedicated provider for DNS since it makes changing any other part of your hosting environment easier - switching registrar, web host, etc. Not having to re-setup DNS when those changes are made is nice. - Andy O. From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider I was going to mention using the registrar, as I do myself. The ones that I have used all have this. It's just not enabled by default. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Looking for a DNS provider
Why do you want talk about registrars like that? I mean, the way it comes across in your message, you do this often? I would think you would want a registrar that holds a higher level of confidence in such statements. Anyway, the point is if you register all your domains at the same registrar, then you gain ease and convenience in those areas for managing DNS. I don't use a tier 1 registrar, but the sub of TUCOWS that I use have not given me one reason to change in over 4 years of use. I'm all for splitting up services but those two go so nicely together I'm wondering why you want to do what you're doing. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider AH HAH! Bingo. I am willing to bet that is why we are using a different provider for DNS than our registrar. So that we can switch registrars with no problems. Thanks!!! -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Oh...and I was going to mention that I like using a dedicated provider for DNS since it makes changing any other part of your hosting environment easier - switching registrar, web host, etc. Not having to re-setup DNS when those changes are made is nice. - Andy O. From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider I was going to mention using the registrar, as I do myself. The ones that I have used all have this. It's just not enabled by default. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Looking for a DNS provider
Good point. Splitting DNS service and registrar services offers limited protection from bastard domain registrars. Because the registrar controls the records that point to the DNS servers themselves. If you run into a dispute with your registrar (like GoDaddy shutting down sites whenever anyone asks) then they just point the nameservers at different DNS servers. If they also control the DNS itself, they can do this immediately vs. the 48 hour propogation time it may take to change NS records at the registry. Small comfort. More important is to stay away from unscrupulous domain registrars. Tucows is one of the best, but try wrestling a domain away from GoDaddy. I've dealt with the situation several times and it can be a nightmare. - Original Message - From: Mike Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Why do you want talk about registrars like that? I mean, the way it comes across in your message, you do this often? I would think you would want a registrar that holds a higher level of confidence in such statements. Anyway, the point is if you register all your domains at the same registrar, then you gain ease and convenience in those areas for managing DNS. I don't use a tier 1 registrar, but the sub of TUCOWS that I use have not given me one reason to change in over 4 years of use. I'm all for splitting up services but those two go so nicely together I'm wondering why you want to do what you're doing. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: David Mazzaccaro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:50 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider AH HAH! Bingo. I am willing to bet that is why we are using a different provider for DNS than our registrar. So that we can switch registrars with no problems. Thanks!!! -Original Message- From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 1:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider Oh...and I was going to mention that I like using a dedicated provider for DNS since it makes changing any other part of your hosting environment easier - switching registrar, web host, etc. Not having to re-setup DNS when those changes are made is nice. - Andy O. From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 12:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looking for a DNS provider I was going to mention using the registrar, as I do myself. The ones that I have used all have this. It's just not enabled by default. ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~