RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
We are synchronizing our guests with ESX hosts. ESX hosts are synchornizing with NTP server. Exception are domain controllers. Mike Original Message: - From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:27:56 -0300 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Your guests should be synching with their dc's. S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. We are synchronizing our guests with ESX hosts. ESX hosts are synchornizing with NTP server. Exception are domain controllers. Mike Original Message: - From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:27:56 -0300 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Correct, don't synch the guests with the HOST if they are windows, time sync should be going through the DC's and then they talk to the Stratum 1 level ( Like tick and tock.usno.navy.mil and others) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Your guests should be synching with their dc's. S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. We are synchronizing our guests with ESX hosts. ESX hosts are synchornizing with NTP server. Exception are domain controllers. Mike Original Message: - From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:27:56 -0300 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Don't single out any stratum 1 hosts - much safer to use something like pool.ntp.org - actually, using the country specific subdomain is even better, if your country is listed. I use us.pool.ntp.org, for instance. These round-robin the various clocks, so if one goes bad or is DoSed, you're covered. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct, don't synch the guests with the HOST if they are windows, time sync should be going through the DC's and then they talk to the Stratum 1 level ( Like tick and tock.usno.navy.mil and others) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Your guests should be synching with their dc's. S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. We are synchronizing our guests with ESX hosts. ESX hosts are synchornizing with NTP server. Exception are domain controllers. Mike Original Message: - From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:27:56 -0300 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
+1 for pool.ntp.org... Cant beat the round-robin nature of it. Unless you are an ISP, you shouldn't be using Stratum 1 servers anyway. Its easy to do, but it ain't propah. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't single out any stratum 1 hosts - much safer to use something like pool.ntp.org - actually, using the country specific subdomain is even better, if your country is listed. I use us.pool.ntp.org, for instance. These round-robin the various clocks, so if one goes bad or is DoSed, you're covered. On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct, don't synch the guests with the HOST if they are windows, time sync should be going through the DC's and then they talk to the Stratum 1 level ( Like tick and tock.usno.navy.mil and others) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 2:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Your guests should be synching with their dc's. S -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:40 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. We are synchronizing our guests with ESX hosts. ESX hosts are synchornizing with NTP server. Exception are domain controllers. Mike Original Message: - From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:27:56 -0300 To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ -- ME2 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
I agree that most of our experience with ESX has been very positive. However, this particular bug had such big ramifications. Plus the EMC companies haven't had good luck in the past couple of weeks with some patching: 1) When we originally installed our RSA Authentication manager, it was encouraged and even recommended that we install on VMWare. We even had an RSA tech on site assisting. Well 2 weeks ago we started to do an upgrade. After multiple failures, we call RSA support. The technician sheepishly stated the new version won't work on VM. A few days later we got a mass email saying it wouldn't work. So VMWare will host most applications --- just not one of thier own. The irony is pretty thick. 2) Then the ESX Update 2 issue. 3) Yesterday we received a patch for EMC DiskXtender. An hour later we received an emergency email and phone call Do NOT install that patch! Previously I believed that all 3 companies had quality products and excellent QA and release processes. Maybe it's growth or integration pains, or market pressure for new versions, but it seems some quality process has declined a bit. Kevin On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
I have never had a vendor call me to warn me/try to save me. That is pretty darn cool. From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. 3) Yesterday we received a patch for EMC DiskXtender. An hour later we received an emergency email and phone call Do NOT install that patch! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Well, I do and what I did was set it back, start the vm, then set it forward immediately. jlc -Original Message- From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Yeah, I'm impressed as well. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 09:46 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. I have never had a vendor call me to warn me/try to save me. That is pretty darn cool. From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. 3) Yesterday we received a patch for EMC DiskXtender. An hour later we received an emergency email and phone call Do NOT install that patch! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
A wide variety of vendors, if you pay for it, offer this type of service/notification. - John Barsodi From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Yeah, I'm impressed as well. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue. - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 09:46 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. I have never had a vendor call me to warn me/try to save me. That is pretty darn cool. From: Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. 3) Yesterday we received a patch for EMC DiskXtender. An hour later we received an emergency email and phone call Do NOT install that patch! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Installation instructions... http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/ilockhart/archive/2008/08/14/vmware-esx-3-5-u pdate-2-patch-installation.aspx -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
This wasn't that type of notification. We had been working with an engineer who told us to apply the patch and almost at the same time they released an internal notification to not use that patch. So he called us back. The real point was it was yet another patch that was released before it was ready. On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A wide variety of vendors, if you pay for it, offer this type of service/notification. - John Barsodi *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:06 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Yeah, I'm impressed as well. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue.* *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* *From:* Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 09:46 hrs *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. I have never had a vendor call me to warn me/try to save me. That is pretty darn cool. *From:* Kevin Lundy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:43 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. 3) Yesterday we received a patch for EMC DiskXtender. An hour later we received an emergency email and phone call Do NOT install that patch! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Thanks for posting this, I've been trying to figure out how to patch one of my foundation servers for two days. Called support and they couldn't even help me. The guy I got didn't know any command line. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Installation instructions... http://myitforum.com/cs2/blogs/ilockhart/archive/2008/08/14/vmware-esx-3 -5-u pdate-2-patch-installation.aspx -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
This gets more complicated than it seems. When the DC starts, it inherits the time based on the previous offset from the hardware. It then needs to correct itself. Because of drift etc, things can get screwy. I am not even sure what the best method is but I believe last I checked it was best to let the host sync accurately, then use vmtools to sync the guest. Someone CMIW? jlc -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Well, yeah. I guess I got in a hurry and forgot to say that. Isn't it the default to sync time with the host on ESX? -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
Not in 3.5 i don't think. It is a per VM setting, from memory Greg From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 1:10 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Well, yeah. I guess I got in a hurry and forgot to say that. Isn't it the default to sync time with the host on ESX? -Original Message- From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why you would want to do that? From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have an impact. ...Tim -Original Message- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes an arse kicking on them. MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch? Maybe vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier? Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done. Wow... -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you don't reapply faulty SP... Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again. http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
