RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

2001-08-29 Thread Jason Gauthier
Title: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only



Can 
you explain the setup of the network a little? 
Are 
the clients gettingIP addresses on the same subnet as the server? Or 
different?

can 
you ping the server from the clieht by name?
can 
you ping the client from the server by name?

  -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:56 
  AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP 
  only
  I have just setup a VPN server in our office and am 
  having problems browsing. When a client connects he is not able to 
  browse the network and the logon script does not run. When he connects 
  everything appears to be fine. My server is NT 4 SP 6a and the clients 
  are W2K and Win 95/98. All of the clients are having this problem. 
  We are not running Wins and I do not want to load it. Does anyone know 
  what I am doing wrong or setting that I need to change to get the logon 
  scripts to run and the browsing to work properly?
  Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm





RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

2001-08-29 Thread Chris Bodnar
Title: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only









Why dont
you want to use WINS, it would solve you problem?



You can
use LMHOSTS files as a replacement.



There are
a few issues with running the logon scripts. How many DCs? If more than one are you sure the logon script
exists on all DCs? On the Win 9x clients are they using the windows login
first? If so logon scripts wont run. Those clients must bypass the Windows
logon when booting up, and then when they validate against the VPN server it
will prompt them to logon , and run the logon scripts.





Chris Bodnar

The Lehigh Group

610-966-9702 X:134



-Original
Message-
From: Blake R. Fowkes
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001
8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only



I have just setup a VPN
server in our office and am having problems browsing. When a client
connects he is not able to browse the network and the logon script does not
run. When he connects everything appears to be fine. My server is
NT 4 SP 6a and the clients are W2K and Win 95/98. All of the clients are
having this problem. We are not running Wins and I do not want to load
it. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or setting that I need to
change to get the logon scripts to run and the browsing to work properly?

Thanks, 
Blake Fowkes 
Waid and Associates 


http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm




http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm







RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

2001-08-29 Thread Blake R. Fowkes
Title: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only



Yes 
the clients are getting an IP from the same subnet.
No I 
am not able to ping from the client to the server (or any other machine) by 
name. Unless it if one of my entries in hosts/lmhosts.
Not 
sure from server to client. I will try that one right 
now.

Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 


  -Original Message-From: Jason Gauthier 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:02 
  AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NT 4 VPN and 
  TCP/IP only
  Can you explain the setup of the network a little? 
  Are the clients gettingIP addresses on the same subnet as the 
  server? Or different?
  
  can you ping the server from the clieht by name?
  can you ping the client from the server by name?
  
-Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:56 
AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: NT 4 VPN and 
TCP/IP only
I have just setup a VPN server in our office and 
am having problems browsing. When a client connects he is not able to 
browse the network and the logon script does not run. When he connects 
everything appears to be fine. My server is NT 4 SP 6a and the clients 
are W2K and Win 95/98. All of the clients are having this 
problem. We are not running Wins and I do not want to load it. 
Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or setting that I need to change to 
get the logon scripts to run and the browsing to work properly?
Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm





RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

2001-08-29 Thread Jason Gauthier
Title: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only




  Well, as much as you hate it, the best practice solutions I can think 
  of would be installing and configuring WINS.
  
  Or 
  else install LMHOSTS files on all remote computers. (A potential 
  administrative nightmare, especially adding/removing and changing servers' IP 
  addresses)
  
  Good luck,
  
   Jason

  -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:10 
  AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NT 4 VPN and 
  TCP/IP only
  Yes 
  the clients are getting an IP from the same subnet.
  No I 
  am not able to ping from the client to the server (or any other machine) by 
  name. Unless it if one of my entries in 
  hosts/lmhosts.
  Not 
  sure from server to client. I will try that one right 
  now.
  
  Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Jason Gauthier 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 
8:02 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NT 4 VPN 
and TCP/IP only
Can you explain the setup of the network a little? 

Are the clients gettingIP addresses on the same subnet as the 
server? Or different?

can you ping the server from the clieht by name?
can you ping the client from the server by name?

  -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:56 
  AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: NT 4 VPN and 
  TCP/IP only
  I have just setup a VPN server in our office 
  and am having problems browsing. When a client connects he is not 
  able to browse the network and the logon script does not run. When 
  he connects everything appears to be fine. My server is NT 4 SP 6a 
  and the clients are W2K and Win 95/98. All of the clients are having 
  this problem. We are not running Wins and I do not want to load 
  it. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or setting that I need to 
  change to get the logon scripts to run and the browsing to work 
  properly?
  Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and 
  Associates 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htmhttp://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm





RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

2001-08-29 Thread Blake R. Fowkes
Title: RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only





I do not run wins anywhere else for and browsing work fine. The only time I have a problem with browsing is RAS/VPN and I really do not want to install it just for that. LMHOSTS can work but as said before can be a big nightmare. I have 2 DC's and yes I am doing replication for the logon scripts and yes it is working. Just tried again on a 95 client without login in to 95 and when I made the VPN connection the logon script did run.

Now on the next little bit for that one, what about my W2K clients that have to logon to be able to use the machine? How do I get the logon script to run for them?

As log as the logon script will run I really do not care about browsing. None of the people would have a need to browse as long as the logon script ran.

Thanks, 
Blake Fowkes 
Waid and Associates 


-Original Message-
From: Chris Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only



Why don't you want to use WINS, it would solve you problem?

You can use LMHOSTS files as a replacement.

There are a few issues with running the logon scripts. How many DC's? If more than one are you sure the logon script exists on all DC's? On the Win 9x clients are they using the windows login first? If so logon scripts won't run. Those clients must bypass the Windows logon when booting up, and then when they validate against the VPN server it will prompt them to logon , and run the logon scripts.



Chris Bodnar
The Lehigh Group
610-966-9702 X:134

-Original Message-
From: Blake R. Fowkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

I have just setup a VPN server in our office and am having problems browsing. When a client connects he is not able to browse the network and the logon script does not run. When he connects everything appears to be fine. My server is NT 4 SP 6a and the clients are W2K and Win 95/98. All of the clients are having this problem. We are not running Wins and I do not want to load it. Does anyone know what I am doing wrong or setting that I need to change to get the logon scripts to run and the browsing to work properly?

Thanks, 
Blake Fowkes 
Waid and Associates 


http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm



http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm





Re: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

2001-08-29 Thread Peter Pearson
Title: RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only



Browsing may work 'fine' but is it efficient? i.e. 
network traffic? Why the resistance to implement WINS?

http://www.win2000mag.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=5215



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Blake R. Fowkes 
  
  To: NT System Admin Issues 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 9:29 
  AM
  Subject: RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP 
  only
  
  I do not run wins anywhere else for and browsing work 
  fine. The only time I have a problem with browsing is RAS/VPN and I 
  really do not want to install it just for that. LMHOSTS can work but as 
  said before can be a big nightmare. I have 2 DC's and yes I am doing 
  replication for the logon scripts and yes it is working. Just tried 
  again on a 95 client without login in to 95 and when I made the VPN connection 
  the logon script did run.
  Now on the next little bit for that one, what about my W2K 
  clients that have to logon to be able to use the machine? How do I get 
  the logon script to run for them?
  As log as the logon script will run I really do not care about 
  browsing. None of the people would have a need to browse as long as the 
  logon script ran.
  Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 
  -Original Message- From: Chris 
  Bodnar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:11 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NT 4 
  VPN and TCP/IP only 
  Why don't you want to use WINS, it would solve you 
  problem?  You can use 
  LMHOSTS files as a replacement.  
  There are a few issues with running the logon scripts. 
  How many DC's? If more than one are you sure the logon script exists on all 
  DC's? On the Win 9x clients are they using the windows login first? If so 
  logon scripts won't run. Those clients must bypass the Windows logon when 
  booting up, and then when they validate against the VPN server it will prompt 
  them to logon , and run the logon scripts.
Chris Bodnar The Lehigh Group 610-966-9702 X:134  -Original Message- From: Blake R. 
  Fowkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 8:56 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NT 4 VPN 
  and TCP/IP only  I have 
  just setup a VPN server in our office and am having problems browsing. 
  When a client connects he is not able to browse the network and the logon 
  script does not run. When he connects everything appears to be 
  fine. My server is NT 4 SP 6a and the clients are W2K and Win 
  95/98. All of the clients are having this problem. We are not 
  running Wins and I do not want to load it. Does anyone know what I am 
  doing wrong or setting that I need to change to get the logon scripts to run 
  and the browsing to work properly?
  Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm





RE: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only

2001-08-29 Thread Diane Beckham
Title: NT 4 VPN and TCP/IP only



Make 
sure the workgroup or domain name on the remote clients is the same as the 
domain where the VPN server is located. 

Diane

-Original Message-From: 
Blake R. Fowkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 
2001 5:56 AMTo: NT System Admin IssuesSubject: NT 4 VPN 
and TCP/IP only

  I have just setup a VPN server in our office and am 
  having problems browsing. When a client connects he is not able to 
  browse the network and the logon script does not run. When he connects 
  everything appears to be fine. My server is NT 4 SP 6a and the clients 
  are W2K and Win 95/98. All of the clients are having this problem. 
  We are not running Wins and I do not want to load it. Does anyone know 
  what I am doing wrong or setting that I need to change to get the logon 
  scripts to run and the browsing to work properly?
  Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates 
  http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm