RE: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Steven M. Caesare]

Déjà vu...

-sc

 

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

 

you can jailbreak it legally...

http://www.redmondpie.com/jailbreak-unlock-iphone-officially-legal/

Bill

Jonathan Link wrote: 

It'd be great if my iPhone had 1024 x 768 with tiny pixels.

And I could jailbreak it legally.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

Just a kvetch about these things...

Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.

Kurt


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill  wrote:
> Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with HT
> and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these now
> w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good because
> there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
> Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will want
> to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
>
> Hey list,
>
> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> serial port), etc.
>
> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
> 7.
>
> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
> costs.
>
> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style
> of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would
> not want to end up with this.
>
> Thanks for the opinions.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
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RE: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Steven M. Caesare]

I had to go to a larger form-factor Dell to get the 1900x1200 I wanted

 

-sc

 

From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

 

screen specs and resolution for laptops are the suck now.  i actually used a 
thinkpad t40 until 3 months ago.  started searching for a replacement and was 
amazed at the degradation of quality screens in the laptop market.  the bulk of 
them come with shiny screens.  and most are widescreen now.  there are 
practically no high res, small screens.  high res is now considered 1440x900 
and they are scarce.

i went for a thinkpad T410 that i am happy with it now.  i7, 4 gigs in one slot 
and my battery life (9cell) is 4 to 5 hours with regular use.


Kurt Buff wrote: 

Just a kvetch about these things...
 
Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
 
Kurt
 
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill  
<mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com>  wrote:
  

Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with 
HT
and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these 
now
w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good 
because
there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will 
want
to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
 
--
Mike Gill
 
-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
 
Hey list,
 
I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. 
I'm
considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting 
workstation,
such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over 
local
serial port), etc.
 
Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but 
I'm
curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too 
slow"
or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work 
without
unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running 
Windows
7.
 
Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. 
the
10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of 
screen
real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If 
so, let
me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap 
Notebook
costs.
 
Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this 
style
of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and 
would
not want to end up with this.
 
Thanks for the opinions.
 
 
--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District
 
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Andrew S. Baker]

Because they're trying to keep costs down.  Or markups up.  Or some
combination of the above.


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On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Just a kvetch about these things...
>
> Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
> resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
> to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill 
> wrote:
> > Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with
> HT
> > and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these
> now
> > w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good
> because
> > there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
> > Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will
> want
> > to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Gill
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> > considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> > such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> > serial port), etc.
> >
> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but
> I'm
> > curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too
> slow"
> > or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> > unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running
> Windows
> > 7.
> >
> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> > 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of
> screen
> > real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so,
> let
> > me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> > usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap
> Notebook
> > costs.
> >
> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> style
> > of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
> would
> > not want to end up with this.
> >
> > Thanks for the opinions.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
>

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RE: Opinions on Netbooks...

[MMF]

I've got an older Dell 700m with a 12 inch screen. The standard battery was
only good for a couple of hours at best, so I bought a larger battery. It
adds about 1 inch to the depth, and is slightly heavier, but it can last
close to 5 hours. When I've traveled overseas, I have a backpack with wheels
and a special laptop compartment which holds the laptop just fine without
taking up too much room in the backpack. I also have a sleeve to carry the
laptop locally. The netbooks are smaller depending on the screen, but you
still can't hang them on your belt like an iPhone. So, I would think that
for all purpose use, I'd rather have my 12 laptop. Not much bigger or
bulkier, but better for all round use.

Murray 

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 4:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

Many models (HP and Dell, for example) have 10" screens with optional
1366x768 displays. I'm making sure that I get something with at least that
many pixels.

In truth, I'm looking at the 11.6" or 12" netbooks. While the smaller ones
are nice, they are tiny... as long as I get the good battery life, I think
I'll be happy. (My current laptop lasts 2 hours... max... on a good day. And
it's a little big for lugging around everywhere.)


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Kurt Buff
[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 05 Oct 2010
13:48:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Opinions on Netbooks...


> Just a kvetch about these things...
> 
> Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real 
> resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard 
> to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill 
wrote:
> > Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core 
> > with HT and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with 
> > one of these
> now
> > w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good 
> > because there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as 
> > it gets for Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 
> > still. You will want to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Gill
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of 
> > netbooks. I'm considering the purchase of one as my mobile 
> > troubleshooting workstation, such as IP-Camera configuration, 
> > Network Device configuration (over local serial port), etc.
> >
> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, 
> > but I'm curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor 
> > that "is too
> slow"
> > or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work 
> > without unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on 
> > running
> Windows
> > 7.
> >
> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most 
> > netbooks. the 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you 
> > often run out of
> screen
> > real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If 
> > so,
> let
> > me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but 
> > those usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a 
> > cheap
> Notebook
> > costs.
> >
> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have 
> > this
> style
> > of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and 
> > would not want to end up with this.
> >
> > Thanks for the opinions.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Jonathan Link]

Shhh.  Don't let facts get in the way.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:19 PM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> you can jailbreak it legally...
>
> http://www.redmondpie.com/jailbreak-unlock-iphone-officially-legal/
>
> Bill
>
> Jonathan Link wrote:
>
>  It'd be great if my iPhone had 1024 x 768 with tiny pixels.
> And I could jailbreak it legally.
>
>   On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>> Just a kvetch about these things...
>>
>> Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
>> resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
>> to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill 
>> wrote:
>> > Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with
>> HT
>> > and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these
>> now
>> > w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good
>> because
>> > there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
>> > Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will
>> want
>> > to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Mike Gill
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
>> >
>> > Hey list,
>> >
>> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks.
>> I'm
>> > considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting
>> workstation,
>> > such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over
>> local
>> > serial port), etc.
>> >
>> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but
>> I'm
>> > curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too
>> slow"
>> > or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work
>> without
>> > unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running
>> Windows
>> > 7.
>> >
>> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks.
>> the
>> > 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of
>> screen
>> > real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so,
>> let
>> > me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
>> > usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap
>> Notebook
>> > costs.
>> >
>> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
>> style
>> > of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
>> would
>> > not want to end up with this.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the opinions.
>> >
>> >
>> > --Matt Ross
>> > Ephrata School District
>> >
>> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>> >   ~
>> >
>> > ---
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matthew W. Ross]

Many models (HP and Dell, for example) have 10" screens with optional 1366x768 
displays. I'm making sure that I get something with at least that many pixels.

In truth, I'm looking at the 11.6" or 12" netbooks. While the smaller ones are 
nice, they are tiny... as long as I get the good battery life, I think I'll be 
happy. (My current laptop lasts 2 hours... max... on a good day. And it's a 
little big for lugging around everywhere.)


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Kurt Buff
[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 05 Oct 2010
13:48:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Opinions on Netbooks...


> Just a kvetch about these things...
> 
> Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
> resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
> to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
> 
> Kurt
> 
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill  wrote:
> > Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with HT
> > and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these
> now
> > w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good because
> > there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
> > Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will want
> > to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Gill
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> > considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> > such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> > serial port), etc.
> >
> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
> > curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too
> slow"
> > or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> > unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running
> Windows
> > 7.
> >
> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> > 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of
> screen
> > real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so,
> let
> > me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> > usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap
> Notebook
> > costs.
> >
> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> style
> > of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would
> > not want to end up with this.
> >
> > Thanks for the opinions.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
> > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ---
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Bill Humphries]

you can jailbreak it legally...

http://www.redmondpie.com/jailbreak-unlock-iphone-officially-legal/

Bill

Jonathan Link wrote:
> It'd be great if my iPhone had 1024 x 768 with tiny pixels.
> And I could jailbreak it legally.
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Kurt Buff  > wrote:
>
> Just a kvetch about these things...
>
> Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
> resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
> to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill
> mailto:lis...@canbyfoursquare.com>>
> wrote:
> > Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual
> core with HT
> > and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one
> of these now
> > w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's
> good because
> > there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it
> gets for
> > Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You
> will want
> > to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Gill
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org
> ]
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of
> netbooks. I'm
> > considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting
> workstation,
> > such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration
> (over local
> > serial port), etc.
> >
> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU
> power, but I'm
> > curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that
> "is too slow"
> > or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230
> work without
> > unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on
> running Windows
> > 7.
> >
> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most
> netbooks. the
> > 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run
> out of screen
> > real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my
> head. If so, let
> > me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen,
> but those
> > usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a
> cheap Notebook
> > costs.
> >
> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands
> have this style
> > of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself,
> and would
> > not want to end up with this.
> >
> > Thanks for the opinions.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Bill Humphries]

screen specs and resolution for laptops are the suck now.  i actually 
used a thinkpad t40 until 3 months ago.  started searching for a 
replacement and was amazed at the degradation of quality screens in the 
laptop market.  the bulk of them come with shiny screens.  and most are 
widescreen now.  there are practically no high res, small screens.  high 
res is now considered 1440x900 and they are scarce.

i went for a thinkpad T410 that i am happy with it now.  i7, 4 gigs in 
one slot and my battery life (9cell) is 4 to 5 hours with regular use.


Kurt Buff wrote:
> Just a kvetch about these things...
>
> Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
> resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
> to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill  wrote:
>   
>> Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with HT
>> and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these now
>> w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good because
>> there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
>> Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will want
>> to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Gill
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
>>
>> Hey list,
>>
>> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
>> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
>> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
>> serial port), etc.
>>
>> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
>> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
>> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
>> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
>> 7.
>>
>> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
>> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
>> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
>> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
>> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
>> costs.
>>
>> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style
>> of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would
>> not want to end up with this.
>>
>> Thanks for the opinions.
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Jonathan Link]

It'd be great if my iPhone had 1024 x 768 with tiny pixels.
And I could jailbreak it legally.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 4:48 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Just a kvetch about these things...
>
> Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
> resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
> to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill 
> wrote:
> > Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with
> HT
> > and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these
> now
> > w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good
> because
> > there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
> > Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will
> want
> > to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
> >
> > --
> > Mike Gill
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> > considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> > such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> > serial port), etc.
> >
> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but
> I'm
> > curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too
> slow"
> > or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> > unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running
> Windows
> > 7.
> >
> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> > 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of
> screen
> > real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so,
> let
> > me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> > usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap
> Notebook
> > costs.
> >
> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> style
> > of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
> would
> > not want to end up with this.
> >
> > Thanks for the opinions.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
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> >   ~
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Kurt Buff]

Just a kvetch about these things...

Why is it that they don't shrink the pixels, so we can get real
resolution in a smaller area? I don't see that it would be that hard
to get 1280x1024 in a 10" frame.

Kurt

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:26, Mike Gill  wrote:
> Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with HT
> and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these now
> w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good because
> there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
> Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will want
> to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
>
> --
> Mike Gill
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
>
> Hey list,
>
> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> serial port), etc.
>
> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
> 7.
>
> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
> costs.
>
> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style
> of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would
> not want to end up with this.
>
> Thanks for the opinions.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
>   ~
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RE: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Mike Gill]

Search Newegg for netbooks with the N550 processor. It's dual core with HT
and review sites like it a lot over the N450 (playing with one of these now
w/ Win7). When you say you won't be needing much power that's good because
there isn't much to have. But the N550 is about as good as it gets for
Netbooks and the Asus models on Newegg are under $400 still. You will want
to flatten the Win7 Starter on it though I imagine.
 
-- 
Mike Gill

-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 3:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...

Hey list,

I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
serial port), etc.

Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
7.

Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
costs.

Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style
of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would
not want to end up with this.

Thanks for the opinions.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matthew W. Ross]

Thank you all for your opinions. I appreciate this bit of crowd sourcing.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District


- Original Message -
From: Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Tue, 05 Oct 2010
07:31:18 -0700
Subject: Re: Opinions on Netbooks...


> That's what I'm talking about!
> 
> Of course, look at the price change when you choose the Core2 Solo...  :)
> 
> 
> *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) <http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker>
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Mark Kelsay
> wrote:
> 
> >  I have a Dell Latitude 1200 I bought for working at remote sites.  Worked
> > quite well, just could not get used to the size of the screen.  Here are
> the
> > specs:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.dell.com/us/en/k-12/notebooks/laptop-latitude-2100/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-latitude-2100&cs=RC1084719&s=k12
> >
> >
> >
> > I now have a Dell Latitude 13, which is really thin and light.  I like
> this
> > much more.  Here are the specs:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-13/pd?refid=latitude-13
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* 05 October 2010 15:13
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: Opinions on Netbooks...
> >
> >
> >
> > I've worked with Netbooks from Dell, Acer, MSI, Lenovo and HP and have
> come
> > to the conclusion:  they all suck.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd much prefer a lower end notebook with a 12-14" screen, higher
> > resolution than X x 600, built-in CD drive, and normal keyboard for my fat
> > fingers.
> >
> >
> >
> > That said, my wife loves her "cute" red Dell mini that almost fits in her
> > purse.
> >
> >
> > Roger Wright
> > ___
> >
> > When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
> > nothin' like it!
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> > considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> > such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> > serial port), etc.
> >
> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
> > curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too
> slow"
> > or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> > unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running
> Windows
> > 7.
> >
> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> > 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of
> screen
> > real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so,
> let
> > me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> > usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap
> Notebook
> > costs.
> >
> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> > style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
> > would not want to end up with this.
> >
> > Thanks for the opinions.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
> >
> 
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Andrew S. Baker]

That's what I'm talking about!

Of course, look at the price change when you choose the Core2 Solo...  :)


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* *



On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Mark Kelsay wrote:

>  I have a Dell Latitude 1200 I bought for working at remote sites.  Worked
> quite well, just could not get used to the size of the screen.  Here are the
> specs:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/us/en/k-12/notebooks/laptop-latitude-2100/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-latitude-2100&cs=RC1084719&s=k12
>
>
>
> I now have a Dell Latitude 13, which is really thin and light.  I like this
> much more.  Here are the specs:
>
>
>
> http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-13/pd?refid=latitude-13
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 05 October 2010 15:13
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Opinions on Netbooks...
>
>
>
> I've worked with Netbooks from Dell, Acer, MSI, Lenovo and HP and have come
> to the conclusion:  they all suck.
>
>
>
> I'd much prefer a lower end notebook with a 12-14" screen, higher
> resolution than X x 600, built-in CD drive, and normal keyboard for my fat
> fingers.
>
>
>
> That said, my wife loves her "cute" red Dell mini that almost fits in her
> purse.
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> When it's GOOD there ain't nothin' like it, and when it's BAD there ain't
> nothin' like it!
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross 
> wrote:
>
> Hey list,
>
> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> serial port), etc.
>
> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
> 7.
>
> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
> costs.
>
> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
> would not want to end up with this.
>
> Thanks for the opinions.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>

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RE: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Mark Kelsay]

I have a Dell Latitude 1200 I bought for working at remote sites.  Worked quite 
well, just could not get used to the size of the screen.  Here are the specs:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/k-12/notebooks/laptop-latitude-2100/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-latitude-2100&cs=RC1084719&s=k12

I now have a Dell Latitude 13, which is really thin and light.  I like this 
much more.  Here are the specs:

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/latitude-13/pd?refid=latitude-13



Mark



From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com]
Sent: 05 October 2010 15:13
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

I've worked with Netbooks from Dell, Acer, MSI, Lenovo and HP and have come to 
the conclusion:  they all suck.

I'd much prefer a lower end notebook with a 12-14" screen, higher resolution 
than X x 600, built-in CD drive, and normal keyboard for my fat fingers.

That said, my wife loves her "cute" red Dell mini that almost fits in her purse.


Roger Wright
___

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nothin' like it!



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross 
mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org>> wrote:
Hey list,

I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, such 
as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local serial 
port), etc.

Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow" or 
"start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without 
unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows 7.

Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 10" 
screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen 
real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let me 
know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those usually 
get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook costs.

Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style of 
keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would not 
want to end up with this.

Thanks for the opinions.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Roger Wright]

I've worked with Netbooks from Dell, Acer, MSI, Lenovo and HP and have come
to the conclusion:  they all suck.

I'd much prefer a lower end notebook with a 12-14" screen, higher resolution
than X x 600, built-in CD drive, and normal keyboard for my fat fingers.

That said, my wife loves her "cute" red Dell mini that almost fits in her
purse.


Roger Wright
___

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nothin' like it!




On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross wrote:

> Hey list,
>
> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> serial port), etc.
>
> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
> 7.
>
> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
> costs.
>
> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
> would not want to end up with this.
>
> Thanks for the opinions.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
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RE: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Don Guyer]

I bought an HP Mini last year as a family Xmas present, more for the
kids than for the wife and myself.

Overall it's decent for what it's used for, which is mainly WWW surfing.
I did upgrade the RAM to 2GB and upgraded Windows 7 to Ultimate. Word
has been run on it a few times and it's not bad. But, when you factor in
the cost of an external DVD drive on top of everything already
mentioned, you're fairly close to buying a low-end full-size laptop.

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer - Information Services
Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...

Hey list,

I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks.
I'm considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting
workstation, such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device
configuration (over local serial port), etc.

Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but
I'm curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is
too slow" or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230
work without unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan
on running Windows 7.

Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks.
the 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out
of screen real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my
head. If so, let me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768
screen, but those usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is
what a cheap Notebook costs.

Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself,
and would not want to end up with this.

Thanks for the opinions.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Richard Stovall]

I have an original Dell Mini 9.  It ran Win 7 just fine, but visiting web
sites with Flash killed the poor CPU.  I put the Ubuntu netbook edition on
it a few months ago and it is really quite fast now.

The real Achilles' heel is the keyboard.  If you're a touch typist, you're
going to be frustrated.  But hey, for trips and whanot it's great.  My
laptop is a 12.1" D430 and that size seems to be the sweet spot for a 'real'
computer that I can use effectively.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Silvio L. Nisgoski 
> wrote:
> > In the end, from first hand experience, it is much better to get used to
> > their shortcomings ( size, speed, keyboard )
>
>   Yah.  A key to appreciating small-form-factor devices is
> understanding them.  They're not small laptops, they're powerful PDAs.
>
>  I've got an Asus Eee with 1 GB RAM and 1 GB SDD.  Runs Linux great,
> but I don't think it would run MS Windows very well.
>
> -- Ben
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Ben Scott]

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Silvio L. Nisgoski  wrote:
> In the end, from first hand experience, it is much better to get used to
> their shortcomings ( size, speed, keyboard )

  Yah.  A key to appreciating small-form-factor devices is
understanding them.  They're not small laptops, they're powerful PDAs.

  I've got an Asus Eee with 1 GB RAM and 1 GB SDD.  Runs Linux great,
but I don't think it would run MS Windows very well.

-- Ben

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RE: Opinions on Netbooks...

[John Hornbuckle]

I recently got a ThinkPad X100e because it has a bigger screen than other 
netbooks. It's 11.6", which gives a resolution of 1366x768. It's still small 
and light, though, and gets decent battery life.



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us




-Original Message-
From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 6:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...

Hey list,

I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, such 
as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local serial 
port), etc.

Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow" or 
"start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without 
unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows 7.

Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 10" 
screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen 
real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let me 
know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those usually 
get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook costs.

Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style of 
keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would not 
want to end up with this.

Thanks for the opinions.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Candee]

+1

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:02 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> In general, you're going to want to get an N450 or one of the dual core
> variety of NetBooks.
>
> I recently got my son a NetBook for his birthday, and you couldn't pay me
> to use one of those things for remote support.  I'll deal with the weight of
> a laptop, thankyouverymuch.   The speed is not quite an issue (I'm using to
> the speed of a smartphone, after all), but the keyboard and screen real
> estate is just not there -- for me, anyway.
>
> Too many of the NetBooks come with 1024x*600* resolution.  I don't mind
> widescreen, but I need more than 600 pixels at the low-end.
>
>
> *>>**I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
> costs.*
>
> And a cheap notebook is by far preferable for support...
>
>
>  *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) 
> *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...*
> * *
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross  > wrote:
>
>> Hey list,
>>
>> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
>> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
>> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
>> serial port), etc.
>>
>> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
>> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
>> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
>> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
>> 7.
>>
>> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
>> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
>> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
>> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
>> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
>> costs.
>>
>> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
>> style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
>> would not want to end up with this.
>>
>> Thanks for the opinions.
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Candee]

My daughter has an Acer Aspire, and absolutely hates it.
It is really slow, and she wishes she went for a small notebook instead.



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Matthew W. Ross wrote:

> I had no preconceived notion of running Office on one of these. I think a
> web browser might be the heaviest application I would want to run on one.
>
> My question is trying to find the line where the OS no linger feels
> sluggish. If I need the machine running quickly, will I need the 2 gigs or
> will 1 gig do? Will the single core Atom 230s do the job with windows 7? How
> about the hyperthreading Z450s?
>
> I would run Linux on this netbook, but so many applications require
> windows/IE that I think I'll have to stick with Microsoft for compatibility
> in this case. Seeing that most netbooks come with 7 Starter, I'd find out
> what runs well (or not so well) on these lower end configs.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
>  On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:10 PM, "Silvio L. Nisgoski"  wrote:
>
> > I´m used to the Acer ones. Tried some HP minis, but while the keyboard
> had that space between the keys you talk, the touchpad was too narrow, and
> the button position seemed wrong, also.
> >
> > One thing that we had to insert into our group is that the netbooks where
> meant for that, troubleshooting and configuring equipment on the field. In
> the start, many people would complain about too slow, too small screen, too
> small disk space ( we went for the 8 and 16 GB SSD ones , to save money &
> battery power ) .
> >
> > But when analyzing what was the problems, they were trying to run office
> apps in the poor little machines. Someone even tried to play dvds in one..
> After some stern talking , and getting the involvement of management ( or we
> from IT would  spend a lot of hours / week cleaning the machines while the
> external technicians couldn´t work without the netbooks ) , we got people to
> stop using the machines for play. ( of course, some draconian GPs helped ) .
> >
> > In the end, from first hand experience, it is much better to get used to
> their shortcomings ( size, speed, keyboard ) then working with a full sized
> notebook over your lap, or trying to balance it with one hand while you try
> to connect a cable inside a huge cabinet. And for their intended use (
> configuring network equipment through serial port  / telnet / http, or
> interfacing with measuring equipment just to collect data ) , it works ok.
> >
> > [ ]
> > Silvio
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Matthew W. Ross" <
> mr...@ephrataschools.org>
> > To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> > Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:15 PM
> > Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
> >
> >
> > Hey list,
> >
> > I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> serial port), etc.
> >
> > Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but
> I'm curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too
> slow" or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work
> without unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running
> Windows 7.
> >
> > Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
> costs.
> >
> > Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
> would not want to end up with this.
> >
> > Thanks for the opinions.
> >
> >
> > --Matt Ross
> > Ephrata School District
> >
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Andrew S. Baker]

In general, you're going to want to get an N450 or one of the dual core
variety of NetBooks.

I recently got my son a NetBook for his birthday, and you couldn't pay me to
use one of those things for remote support.  I'll deal with the weight of a
laptop, thankyouverymuch.   The speed is not quite an issue (I'm using to
the speed of a smartphone, after all), but the keyboard and screen real
estate is just not there -- for me, anyway.

Too many of the NetBooks come with 1024x*600* resolution.  I don't mind
widescreen, but I need more than 600 pixels at the low-end.


*>>**I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those usually
get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook costs.*

And a cheap notebook is by far preferable for support...


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On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross wrote:

> Hey list,
>
> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation,
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local
> serial port), etc.
>
> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm
> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow"
> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without
> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows
> 7.
>
> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the
> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook
> costs.
>
> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this
> style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and
> would not want to end up with this.
>
> Thanks for the opinions.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Angus Scott-Fleming]

On 4 Oct 2010 at 22:48, Matt Cross  wrote:

> I actually do ok with Office 2010 -- the trick is in managing the
> running apps while using Office.

Biggest problem with running Office on the X-by-600-pixel screens is that many 
Office config dialogs are larger than 600 pixels and can't be resized down and 
can't be scrolled off the top of the screen.

I found a hack for our HP Mini that allows it to simulate 13xx*768 screen 
resolution on the whatever-by-600 screen, but it's ugly.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matthew W. Ross]

Thanks, that's great information. 


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

On Oct 4, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Matt Cross  wrote:

> The U120 from early 2009.
> 
> 1 gb ram
> 
> Changed o/s from xp to Win 7 HP 32-bit
> 
> Runs great as a quick trip system, as a presentation system, and as a
> troubleshooting system.
> 
> 
> --
> Matt Cross
> mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Matthew W. Ross
>  wrote:
>> There are a few MSI wind netbook models... Can you tell me which model your 
>> running? Which OS? How much Ram?
>> 
>> 
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Matt Cross  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have one from MSI -- good keyboard, decent screen, decent performance
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Matt Cross
>>> mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross
>>>  wrote:
 Hey list,
 
 I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
 considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, 
 such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local 
 serial port), etc.
 
 Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
 curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too 
 slow" or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work 
 without unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on 
 running Windows 7.
 
 Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 
 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of 
 screen real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. 
 If so, let me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, 
 but those usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a 
 cheap Notebook costs.
 
 Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this 
 style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and 
 would not want to end up with this.
 
 Thanks for the opinions.
 
 
 --Matt Ross
 Ephrata School District
 
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matt Cross]

I actually do ok with Office 2010 -- the trick is in managing the
running apps while using Office.


--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Matthew W. Ross
 wrote:
> I had no preconceived notion of running Office on one of these. I think a web 
> browser might be the heaviest application I would want to run on one.
>
> My question is trying to find the line where the OS no linger feels sluggish. 
> If I need the machine running quickly, will I need the 2 gigs or will 1 gig 
> do? Will the single core Atom 230s do the job with windows 7? How about the 
> hyperthreading Z450s?
>
> I would run Linux on this netbook, but so many applications require 
> windows/IE that I think I'll have to stick with Microsoft for compatibility 
> in this case. Seeing that most netbooks come with 7 Starter, I'd find out 
> what runs well (or not so well) on these lower end configs.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:10 PM, "Silvio L. Nisgoski"  wrote:
>
>> I´m used to the Acer ones. Tried some HP minis, but while the keyboard had 
>> that space between the keys you talk, the touchpad was too narrow, and the 
>> button position seemed wrong, also.
>>
>> One thing that we had to insert into our group is that the netbooks where 
>> meant for that, troubleshooting and configuring equipment on the field. In 
>> the start, many people would complain about too slow, too small screen, too 
>> small disk space ( we went for the 8 and 16 GB SSD ones , to save money & 
>> battery power ) .
>>
>> But when analyzing what was the problems, they were trying to run office 
>> apps in the poor little machines. Someone even tried to play dvds in one.. 
>> After some stern talking , and getting the involvement of management ( or we 
>> from IT would  spend a lot of hours / week cleaning the machines while the 
>> external technicians couldn´t work without the netbooks ) , we got people to 
>> stop using the machines for play. ( of course, some draconian GPs helped ) .
>>
>> In the end, from first hand experience, it is much better to get used to 
>> their shortcomings ( size, speed, keyboard ) then working with a full sized 
>> notebook over your lap, or trying to balance it with one hand while you try 
>> to connect a cable inside a huge cabinet. And for their intended use ( 
>> configuring network equipment through serial port  / telnet / http, or 
>> interfacing with measuring equipment just to collect data ) , it works ok.
>>
>> [ ]
>> Silvio
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
>> 
>> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
>> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:15 PM
>> Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
>>
>>
>> Hey list,
>>
>> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
>> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, 
>> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local 
>> serial port), etc.
>>
>> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
>> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow" 
>> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without 
>> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows 
>> 7.
>>
>> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 
>> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen 
>> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let 
>> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those 
>> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook 
>> costs.
>>
>> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style 
>> of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would 
>> not want to end up with this.
>>
>> Thanks for the opinions.
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matt Cross]

The U120 from early 2009.

1 gb ram

Changed o/s from xp to Win 7 HP 32-bit

Runs great as a quick trip system, as a presentation system, and as a
troubleshooting system.


--
Matt Cross
mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Matthew W. Ross
 wrote:
> There are a few MSI wind netbook models... Can you tell me which model your 
> running? Which OS? How much Ram?
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Matt Cross  wrote:
>
>> I have one from MSI -- good keyboard, decent screen, decent performance
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matt Cross
>> mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross
>>  wrote:
>>> Hey list,
>>>
>>> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
>>> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, 
>>> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local 
>>> serial port), etc.
>>>
>>> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
>>> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too 
>>> slow" or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work 
>>> without unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on 
>>> running Windows 7.
>>>
>>> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 
>>> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of 
>>> screen real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If 
>>> so, let me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but 
>>> those usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap 
>>> Notebook costs.
>>>
>>> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this 
>>> style of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and 
>>> would not want to end up with this.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the opinions.
>>>
>>>
>>> --Matt Ross
>>> Ephrata School District
>>>
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matthew W. Ross]

I had no preconceived notion of running Office on one of these. I think a web 
browser might be the heaviest application I would want to run on one.

My question is trying to find the line where the OS no linger feels sluggish. 
If I need the machine running quickly, will I need the 2 gigs or will 1 gig do? 
Will the single core Atom 230s do the job with windows 7? How about the 
hyperthreading Z450s?

I would run Linux on this netbook, but so many applications require windows/IE 
that I think I'll have to stick with Microsoft for compatibility in this case. 
Seeing that most netbooks come with 7 Starter, I'd find out what runs well (or 
not so well) on these lower end configs. 


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

On Oct 4, 2010, at 5:10 PM, "Silvio L. Nisgoski"  wrote:

> I´m used to the Acer ones. Tried some HP minis, but while the keyboard had 
> that space between the keys you talk, the touchpad was too narrow, and the 
> button position seemed wrong, also.
> 
> One thing that we had to insert into our group is that the netbooks where 
> meant for that, troubleshooting and configuring equipment on the field. In 
> the start, many people would complain about too slow, too small screen, too 
> small disk space ( we went for the 8 and 16 GB SSD ones , to save money & 
> battery power ) .
> 
> But when analyzing what was the problems, they were trying to run office apps 
> in the poor little machines. Someone even tried to play dvds in one.. After 
> some stern talking , and getting the involvement of management ( or we from 
> IT would  spend a lot of hours / week cleaning the machines while the 
> external technicians couldn´t work without the netbooks ) , we got people to 
> stop using the machines for play. ( of course, some draconian GPs helped ) .
> 
> In the end, from first hand experience, it is much better to get used to 
> their shortcomings ( size, speed, keyboard ) then working with a full sized 
> notebook over your lap, or trying to balance it with one hand while you try 
> to connect a cable inside a huge cabinet. And for their intended use ( 
> configuring network equipment through serial port  / telnet / http, or 
> interfacing with measuring equipment just to collect data ) , it works ok.
> 
> [ ]
> Silvio
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Matthew W. Ross" 
> 
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:15 PM
> Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...
> 
> 
> Hey list,
> 
> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, 
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local 
> serial port), etc.
> 
> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow" 
> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without 
> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows 
> 7.
> 
> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 10" 
> screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen 
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let 
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those 
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook 
> costs.
> 
> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style 
> of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would 
> not want to end up with this.
> 
> Thanks for the opinions.
> 
> 
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
> 
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Silvio L. Nisgoski]

I´m used to the Acer ones. Tried some HP minis, but while the keyboard had 
that space between the keys you talk, the touchpad was too narrow, and the 
button position seemed wrong, also.


One thing that we had to insert into our group is that the netbooks where 
meant for that, troubleshooting and configuring equipment on the field. In 
the start, many people would complain about too slow, too small screen, too 
small disk space ( we went for the 8 and 16 GB SSD ones , to save money & 
battery power ) .


But when analyzing what was the problems, they were trying to run office 
apps in the poor little machines. Someone even tried to play dvds in one.. 
After some stern talking , and getting the involvement of management ( or we 
from IT would  spend a lot of hours / week cleaning the machines while the 
external technicians couldn´t work without the netbooks ) , we got people to 
stop using the machines for play. ( of course, some draconian GPs helped ) .


In the end, from first hand experience, it is much better to get used to 
their shortcomings ( size, speed, keyboard ) then working with a full sized 
notebook over your lap, or trying to balance it with one hand while you try 
to connect a cable inside a huge cabinet. And for their intended use ( 
configuring network equipment through serial port  / telnet / http, or 
interfacing with measuring equipment just to collect data ) , it works ok.


[ ]
Silvio



- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew W. Ross" 

To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:15 PM
Subject: Opinions on Netbooks...


Hey list,

I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, 
such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local 
serial port), etc.


Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow" 
or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without 
unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows 
7.


Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 
10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen 
real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let 
me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those 
usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook 
costs.


Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style 
of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would 
not want to end up with this.


Thanks for the opinions.


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matthew W. Ross]

There are a few MSI wind netbook models... Can you tell me which model your 
running? Which OS? How much Ram?


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

On Oct 4, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Matt Cross  wrote:

> I have one from MSI -- good keyboard, decent screen, decent performance
> 
> 
> --
> Matt Cross
> mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross
>  wrote:
>> Hey list,
>> 
>> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
>> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, 
>> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local 
>> serial port), etc.
>> 
>> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
>> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow" 
>> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without 
>> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows 
>> 7.
>> 
>> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 
>> 10" screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen 
>> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let 
>> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those 
>> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook 
>> costs.
>> 
>> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style 
>> of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would 
>> not want to end up with this.
>> 
>> Thanks for the opinions.
>> 
>> 
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>> 
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Re: Opinions on Netbooks...

[Matt Cross]

I have one from MSI -- good keyboard, decent screen, decent performance


--
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mailto:mrforkl...@gmail.com



On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Matthew W. Ross
 wrote:
> Hey list,
>
> I'm curious if any of you have experience with a variety of netbooks. I'm 
> considering the purchase of one as my mobile troubleshooting workstation, 
> such as IP-Camera configuration, Network Device configuration (over local 
> serial port), etc.
>
> Here's my questions: I don't think I'll be needing much CPU power, but I'm 
> curious if anybody noticed a speciffic level of processor that "is too slow" 
> or "start to feel functional." For example, will an old N230 work without 
> unbearable sluggishness? What about the AMD Neo's? I plan on running Windows 
> 7.
>
> Second, I'm weary of the 1024x600 screens that come on most netbooks. the 10" 
> screen physical size isn't a problem, but do you often run out of screen 
> real-estate with such a resolution? Maybe this one is in my head. If so, let 
> me know. I know that you can pay extra for a 1366x768 screen, but those 
> usually get the netbook near the $500 mark... which is what a cheap Notebook 
> costs.
>
> Last, I dislike the Acer's "flat keyboard". Any other brands have this style 
> of keys? I want a little definition between the keys for myself, and would 
> not want to end up with this.
>
> Thanks for the opinions.
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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