Re: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
I keep them in different OUs.  Some but not all distribution lists will have
DL in the name.

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  How do you guys differentiate your security group names from distribution
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Re: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread Steven Peck
Well, one has the security group checked and the other distribution
group...

but seriously, all our distribution groups have a naming standard and
we use the '#' as the designator.
#All Employees
#Some Departments List

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you guys differentiate your security group names from distribution
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RE: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread Ziots, Edward
Put a Prefix on them like DG_ for Distrubution Group and SG_ for
Security group. Quick easy and pretty well understood :-)

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505



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Subject: Security group / dist list

 

How do you guys differentiate your security group names from
distribution list names in AD?

David Lum
SYSTEMS ENGINEER // NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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RE: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread James Winzenz
We preface our distribution groups with the word (List).  It also has
the added benefit of putting the distribution lists first in the GAL.

 

Thanks,

 

James Winzenz

Infrastructure Engineer - Security

Pulte Homes Information Services

 



From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Subject: RE: Security group / dist list
  

Put a Prefix on them like DG_ for Distrubution Group and SG_ for
Security group. Quick easy and pretty well understood :-)

Z

 

Edward E. Ziots

Network Engineer

Lifespan Organization

MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA

Phone: 401-639-3505



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Re: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread Michael . Leone
Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/11/2008 12:22:54 PM:

 I keep them in different OUs.  Some but not all distribution lists 
 will have DL in the name.

I don't have DLs here (I'm a victim of Lotus Notes ...), but I used to 
append -DL to the name, to differentiate them from regular security 
groups.


 On 9/10/08, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you guys differentiate your security group names from 
 distribution list names in AD?
 David Lum
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 Sherry Abercrombie
 
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 Arthur C. Clarke 
 
 
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Re: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread James Rankin
I keep them in separate OUs too, but have the DL as a marker to
differentiate them when I am looking at a user's group memberships. I hate
scrolling to the right :-)

2008/9/11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/11/2008 12:22:54 PM:

  I keep them in different OUs.  Some but not all distribution lists
  will have DL in the name.


 I don't have DLs here (I'm a victim of Lotus Notes ...), but I used to
 append -DL to the name, to differentiate them from regular security
 groups.


  On 9/10/08, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How do you guys differentiate your security group names from
  distribution list names in AD?
  David Lum
  SYSTEMS ENGINEER // NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] // 971.222.1025
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Sherry Abercrombie
 
  Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
  Arthur C. Clarke

 
 







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RE: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread Kennedy, Jim
We add SEC to the end of all the Security groups. That way it is something no 
one ever sees in an address book. Not that it is a big issue, just cleaner 
looking. And different OU's of course.

We have 233 DL's for 800 employee's. Not that I am proud of that.


From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 4:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security group / dist list

I keep them in separate OUs too, but have the DL as a marker to differentiate 
them when I am looking at a user's group memberships. I hate scrolling to the 
right :-)
2008/9/11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 
09/11/2008 12:22:54 PM:


 I keep them in different OUs.  Some but not all distribution lists
 will have DL in the name.


I don't have DLs here (I'm a victim of Lotus Notes ...), but I used to append 
-DL to the name, to differentiate them from regular security groups.


 On 9/10/08, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you guys differentiate your security group names from
 distribution list names in AD?
 David Lum
 SYSTEMS ENGINEER // NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] // 971.222.1025







 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke













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RE: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread David Lum
Thanks everyone for the comments. To me a prefix works better than just a 
different OU because when you want to select from a list  you have all the 
group types together... easier than a suffix, but here they have a suffix..
David Lum
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From: James Rankin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Security group / dist list

I keep them in separate OUs too, but have the DL as a marker to differentiate 
them when I am looking at a user's group memberships. I hate scrolling to the 
right :-)
2008/9/11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 
09/11/2008 12:22:54 PM:


 I keep them in different OUs.  Some but not all distribution lists
 will have DL in the name.


I don't have DLs here (I'm a victim of Lotus Notes ...), but I used to append 
-DL to the name, to differentiate them from regular security groups.


 On 9/10/08, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you guys differentiate your security group names from
 distribution list names in AD?
 David Lum
 SYSTEMS ENGINEER // NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] // 971.222.1025







 --
 Sherry Abercrombie

 Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
 Arthur C. Clarke













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Re: Security group / dist list

2008-09-11 Thread Kurt Buff
I use a verbose naming scheme, which a lot of people hate, but I love...

DLs go with

 ZwwExDL-GroupName - WorldWide groups, which only contain DLs
 ZauExDL-GroupName - two letter country code groups, which may
contain other DLs or names
 ZukExDL-GroupName
 ZusEXDL-GroupName

Permissions go with something like this:

 ZauServerShareDirectoryPath-[RO|RW] - read-only or read-write
permissions on a share/directory, never more than two directories
deeper than the share.

  or

 ZusServerFunctionalGroupName - for SQL or other application
servers which might need embedded permissions.

Mind you - since we're still new to AD, and working in a converted NT4
environment, I haven't completed all of this, but that's where I'm
headed.

The Z is to sort the groups to the bottom of the lists, the two-letter
country codes are obvious, as I hope the rest of it is too.

Kurt

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 9:07 AM, David Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How do you guys differentiate your security group names from distribution
 list names in AD?

 David Lum
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] // 971.222.1025







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