Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS? Martin Blackstone wrote: Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM? Then you could do other things on it as well. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Great responses guys. A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies. On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: We had the money in the budget. Also, I know, at some point, that we'll upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to future proof those boxes. Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need more that 640K and we know how that logic played out : ) Thanks again everyone!! - Jer Ken Schaefer wrote: Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs, especially in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is completely ok. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS? Martin Blackstone wrote: Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM? Then you could do other things on it as well. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Great responses guys. A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies. On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: We had the money in the budget. Also, I know, at some point, that we'll upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to future proof those boxes. Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need more that 640K and we know how that logic played out : ) Thanks again everyone!! - Jer Ken Schaefer wrote: Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
You got a link to define the lines? TIA, Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs, especially in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is completely ok. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS? Martin Blackstone wrote: Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM? Then you could do other things on it as well. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Great responses guys. A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies. On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: We had the money in the budget. Also, I know, at some point, that we'll upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to future proof those boxes. Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need more that 640K and we know how that logic played out : ) Thanks again everyone!! - Jer Ken Schaefer wrote: Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
Sure. Two of them I refer to: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888794 and https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=64db845d-f7a3-4209 -8ed2-e261a117fc6bdisplaylang=en Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB You got a link to define the lines? TIA, Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs, especially in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is completely ok. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS? Martin Blackstone wrote: Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM? Then you could do other things on it as well. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Great responses guys. A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies. On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: We had the money in the budget. Also, I know, at some point, that we'll upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to future proof those boxes. Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need more that 640K and we know how that logic played out : ) Thanks again everyone!! - Jer Ken Schaefer wrote: Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
As of the Server 2008 launch, they (Microsoft) have really started pushing DCs on VMs with the almost there status of Hyper-V (which was covered in great detail at the launch events). Tim -Original Message- From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB You got a link to define the lines? TIA, Shook http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs, especially in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is completely ok. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS? Martin Blackstone wrote: Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM? Then you could do other things on it as well. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Great responses guys. A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies. On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: We had the money in the budget. Also, I know, at some point, that we'll upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to future proof those boxes. Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need more that 640K and we know how that logic played out : ) Thanks again everyone!! - Jer Ken Schaefer wrote: Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As of the Server 2008 launch, they (Microsoft) have really started pushing DCs on VMs with the almost there status of Hyper-V ... Classic. When everybody else could do it, it wasn't recommended. Now that Microsoft's caught up, it'll become a best practice. rolls eyes I love vendor support games. I just found out that Verizon is apparently happy to sell us BlackBerry devices which are actually end-of-life'ed by RIM gag. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
Great responses guys. A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies. On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: We had the money in the budget. Also, I know, at some point, that we'll upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to future proof those boxes. Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need more that 640K and we know how that logic played out : ) Thanks again everyone!! - Jer Ken Schaefer wrote: Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM? Then you could do other things on it as well. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Great responses guys. A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies. On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: We had the money in the budget. Also, I know, at some point, that we'll upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to future proof those boxes. Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need more that 640K and we know how that logic played out : ) Thanks again everyone!! - Jer Ken Schaefer wrote: Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
32 bit will simply ignore the extra ram. There's no harm in it being there, but it won't really help. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:22 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
32-bit Server 2003 Std will ignore memory 4GB. A 64-bit Server 2003 DC will require no AD changes. x64 Server 2003 Std will see and use up to 32GB. Although I am wondering why you need 16GB RAM in a DC that won't be doing anything else... is your directory tree really that large? Jeremy Young wrote: Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
You can add the memory, it's just not going to see/use more than about 3.5GB. If you're going to make a change to 2008, then you will need to get the 32bit enterprise version or 64bit version to see/use more than 4GB of mem. My feeling would be to skip the step of moving to another interim 2003 version. -- Mike Gill -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~ ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~
RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB
Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition. From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that). No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD .dit/database. Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in early 2009). In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box. If I put 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the system do? Simply ignore the extra RAM? Any harm in doing this? If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is there anything that changes in AD? My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure. These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps being 64bit. Thanks! - Jer ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm ~