Re: VDI in a Box?
Can you say now :). Sent from my iPad On Nov 11, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote it to you. Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, so I can't say anything. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
You'd want the account manager or their attached ATS to help there - TAMs are for premier support and PAM is for partners. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote it to you. Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, so I can't say anything. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
We keep getting conflicting information.I feel they do not understand the EA/custom licensing agreement and the fact we are trying BYOD. they cannot seem to understand there is no corporate desktop in the mx so there is no SA benefit we can use. The good news is that we do not need to focus on VDI till Dec/Jan right now the focus is CRM but it would be nice to budget for VDI now. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote it to you. Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, so I can't say anything. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
We keep getting pushed to the LAR witch is Dell. -Original Message- From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You'd want the account manager or their attached ATS to help there - TAMs are for premier support and PAM is for partners. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w - 312.625.1438 | c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 3:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote it to you. Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, so I can't say anything. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe
RE: VDI in a Box?
You shouldn't have to worry about that. Seriously. Get your TAM or PAM to quote it to you. Licensing for VDI with SC2012SP1 should be simpler, but I think it's still NDA, so I can't say anything. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VDI in a Box?
For System Center stuff? Or Citrix? I do a hell of a lot of BYO stuff but its all Citrix-centric ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 22:20:07 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: VDI in a Box? I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
Mostly around Microsoft licensing for VDI and the VDA subscription and CSL subscription. I have not even looked to deeply into Citrix yet. I need to determine if it will add value. Cheers Ryan -Original Message- From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: Friday, November 9, 2012 5:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VDI in a Box? For System Center stuff? Or Citrix? I do a hell of a lot of BYO stuff but its all Citrix-centric ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey r...@finnesey.com Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 22:20:07 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: VDI in a Box? I am really keen to implement a bring your own device model and offer hosted desktops but I am having a hell of a time working out the licensing requirements. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
-Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
No, sorry. Within 90 days after GA for Windows Server 2012 was the official word, I believe. But if you want to deploy a live environment on Day 1, you need to be using the software now. -Original Message- From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:r...@finnesey.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VDI in a Box?
Ease of deployment and expansion. If you use the Dell stuff along with VDI-In-A-Box, you basically just buy what you need, stand it up and add more as necessary. It's dead easy to get it set up and running - hence the name. However - there is currently no migration process between the higher-end VDI solutions that Citrix offer (XenDesktop) and VDI-In-A-Box. So if you start with VIAB and decide you need the better management tools and features of XenDesktop, you'd have to rip VIAB out and start again. But VIAB is not just for small deployments and XenDesktop for large ones - it just depends on the features you require. I've seen big deployments of VIAB and small implementations of XenDesktop. It really depends on how complex you envisage your VDI infrastructure getting. If you are deploying a standard image and don't need a lot of persistent desktops, VIAB may fit your needs well. It's ridiculously easy to add more grids and expand the deployment. But there's also a price difference to take into account that may or may not be suitable for you dependent on other Citrix licenses you may possess. I think Citrix should have a matrix of features between the two somewhere. This may give you an overview of these two and some others as well http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/rubenspruijt/archive/2012/08/24/smackdown-your-vdesktop-head-to-head-analysis-of-citrix-xendesktop-microsoft-vdi-remotefx-quest-vworkspace-and-vmware-view.aspx On 6 November 2012 16:59, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VDI in a Box?
One final point - don't forget that XenApp (traditional Citrix, as it were) can provide a lot of the VDI features through a published desktop. I've seen many places looking at VDI solutions that didn't consider published desktops in XenApp. A lot of these implementations didn't need VDI (either VIAB or XenDesktop) - XenApp ticked most of the boxes they required, and it worked out considerably cheaper. On 6 November 2012 16:59, Matthew W. Ross mr...@ephrataschools.org wrote: Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin -- *James Rankin* Technical Consultant (ACA, CCA, MCTS) http://appsensebigot.blogspot.co.uk ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI in a Box?
Not yet. “rumored” to be first of 2013. Sent from Windows Mail From: Ryan Finnesey Sent: November 6, 2012 8:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? SP1 has been released? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI in a Box? You should also take a look at System Center 2012 VMM (with SP1). It's very slick! -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI in a Box? Hey list. We're just starting to re-visit desktop virtualization. Here's a simple question for you: What the difference between Citrix's VDI-in-a-Box vs traditional VDI solutions? Opinions on where it fits in Desktop Virtualization are welcome. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI
PCoIP is still rubbish when used over an ASDL type service via VPN back to the mothership. I have to use it twice a week remotely and it is extra laggy. Maybe it is the company trying to tell me they don't want me working from home! From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: 14 December 2011 18:40 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VDI I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish remotely. Things may have improved. Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird From: pdw1...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VDI I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Now we have the exact opposite experience. We were feeding 3-4 sessions over DSL for over a year and it worked just fine. DSL on both ends, which means we only had about 1 meg upload speed. Now that we have 50/25 fiber at the mothership it's that much better. I even have engineers using CAD apps on view desktops remotely in a pinch. And we're sill running 4.6. From: Matthew B Ames [mailto:matthew.a...@qinetiq.com] Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 4:03 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI PCoIP is still rubbish when used over an ASDL type service via VPN back to the mothership. I have to use it twice a week remotely and it is extra laggy. Maybe it is the company trying to tell me they don't want me working from home! From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com] Sent: 14 December 2011 18:40 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VDI I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish remotely. Things may have improved. Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird From: pdw1...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VDI I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. QinetiQ may monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes of security. QinetiQ Limited (Registered in England Wales: Company Number: 3796233) Registered office: Cody Technology Park, Ively Road, Farnborough, Hampshire, GU14 0LX http://www.qinetiq.com. http://www.qinetiq.com ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com
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Most of the clients are just old PCs running windows legacy fundamentals. Yes, we have a vcenter box, which is just a virtual machine with the mgmt goodies loaded on it. All of the desktops are scattered across various offices connected through VPNs. From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VDI What kind of thin clients are you using at the desktop? Are you using vcenter to deploy updates and patches to the View desktops? All 400 desktops are on a LAN or do you have some connecting via WAN? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.orgmailto:jckel...@drmc.org wrote: We’re using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our desktops. So far we’re very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now. It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster. We can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours. Thanks JCK From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Initial deployment would be around 100 users and a possibility of 50-80 RAS users. Thanks for the reminder about Brian Madden. I forgot all about that site. Subject: Re: VDI To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com From: kz2...@googlemail.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:37:39 + I have never used the Symantec solution, but XenDesktop and View are the most popular. However for a small amount of users the complexity of XenDesktop is quite high. VDI-in-a-box is the less complex Citrix solution, but as yet there is no easy upgrade path from VIAB to Xen should you need it. Brian Madden's website has some good comparisons of VDI products and other virtualisation software. Sent from my SR-71 BlackbirdFrom: pdw1...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:06 -0500To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: VDI Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI
We're using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our desktops. So far we're very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now. It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster. We can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours. Thanks JCK From: pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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If you already have VMware in your backend, they make pricing very competitive. Especially for the number of desktops you're planning on deploying. Disclaimer: The thought of a Symantec product doing VDI just seems to leave a bad taste in my mouth. But that's just my own biased opinion based on no prior information or experience with the product or its capabilities at all. harry. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. -- Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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I think Infoworld just did a comparison of XenDesktop and View. Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500 To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VDI I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish remotely. Things may have improved. Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird -Original Message- From: pdw1...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: VDI I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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Here it is: http://www.infoworld.com/d/virtualization/vdi-shoot-out-citrix-xendesktop-vs-vmware-view-181691?source=IFWNLE_nlt_daily_2011-12-14 Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500 To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VDI I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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What kind of thin clients are you using at the desktop? Are you using vcenter to deploy updates and patches to the View desktops? All 400 desktops are on a LAN or do you have some connecting via WAN? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Kelsey, John jckel...@drmc.org wrote: We’re using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our desktops. So far we’re very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now. It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster. We can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours. ** ** ** ** Thanks JCK ** ** *From:* pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* VDI ** ** Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
RE: VDI
+1 on View, we have about 75 desktops (XP and W7) with the basic view client setup, Easy to deploy, configure and manage. It helps If you already have a vSphere infrastructure and knowledge in place, but you can get some pretty good deals on a view package. Thx! CGM From: Kelsey, John [mailto:jckel...@drmc.org] Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 1:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VDI We're using GE Centricity in our practices and went with VMware View for our desktops. So far we're very pleased with it, running about 400 desktops now. It sure makes doing updates and patches and whole lot easier and faster. We can re-deploy all of the desktops in just a few hours. Thanks JCK From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com [mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com]mailto:[mailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: VDI Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin _ This e-mail, including attachments, contains information that is confidential and may be protected by attorney/client or other privileges. This e-mail, including attachments, constitutes non-public information intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this e-mail, including attachments, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify me by e-mail reply and delete the original message and any attachments from your system. _ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
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No they have not improved! Carl Webster Consultant and Citrix Technology Professional http://www.CarlWebster.comhttp://www.carlwebster.com/ From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.commailto:kz2...@googlemail.com Reply-To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 18:39:31 + To: NT Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: Re: VDI I wasn't keen on View for remote users. YMMV, but I found PCoIP rubbish remotely. Things may have improved. Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird From: pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:42:39 -0500 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: VDI I agree, Harry. I'd like to justify using View. We haven't got a quote on it yet so a lot depends on how close it is to the Symantec solution. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: VDI From: hbo...@gmail.commailto:hbo...@gmail.com To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.commailto:pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VDI
I don't know a thing about CWS and I know you mentioned Citrix but have you looked at their VDI-in-a-Box solution? http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=2316437 I would try my best to somehow justify the price difference to get either VM and Citrix as those two players seem to very active in the VDI space. Which ultimately means easier integration and better support, community or otherwise, for you. Harry. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:09 PM, pdw1...@hotmail.com wrote: Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
Re: VDI
I have never used the Symantec solution, but XenDesktop and View are the most popular. However for a small amount of users the complexity of XenDesktop is quite high. VDI-in-a-box is the less complex Citrix solution, but as yet there is no easy upgrade path from VIAB to Xen should you need it. Brian Madden's website has some good comparisons of VDI products and other virtualisation software. Sent from my SR-71 Blackbird -Original Message- From: pdw1...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:09:06 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: VDI Due to computerized physician order entry (part of meaningful use), we looking at implementing a virtual desktop solution. I have identified three: Citrix, VM View and Symantec's Corporate Workspace product (used to be Nuvision until it was bought out by Symantec). I am familiar with Citrix and spent a day at a conference on VM, but I have no knowledge (other than what the salesperson showed us) of CWS. Has anybody done any work with the Symantec product? The price is good compared to the other two but we have never purchased an product based on price alone. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
