RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
This is a hardware cpu/bios issue, as others have mentioned. I'm not familiar with HP's server line, but with Dell, their generation 8 servers (2800, 2850, etc) have the same issue. These are the first Intel processors that supported 64 bit, but they do not support 64-bit guest operating systems as they don't have the virtualization technology. To get that, you must have a generation 9 server (1950, 2950, etc) that has the option in the bios to support 64-bit guest systems. It has to do with the processors and what they can support. -Bonnie -Original Message- From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 2:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX I looked everywhere in the BIOS settings and found no reference to enabling or disabling the 64Bit. However the BIOS possibility is ruled out because I am able to install it directly. It is only on VMware ESX 3.5 as virtual machine its not working..!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
Thanks, I think I got the correct answer. IT does need VT enabled processor apart from being simply 64Bit binary compatible for it to work with VMWare ESX and XenServer. Direct installation of Windows 2008 on this hardware with Intel Xeon 3.0Ghz processor does work. VMWare ESX is displaying Intel Xeon CPU 3.60 GHz ; Processor Speed 3.6 GHz and Hyperthreading enabled. So.. thanks everybody pointing me to the right direction. Best regards, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
You need to enable Execute Protection or DEP. -Original Message- From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX Hi: I am tyring to understand this phenomena. HP DL380G4 with Intel Xeon3.0 GHz processor. Using Smartstart - I can install Windows 2008 - 64 Bit edition. No problem. Than I installed VMWare ESX 3.5 with latest updates. Trying to install Same Windows 2008 - 64 Bit ; no go. It gives me the message Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this CPU is not compatible with 64-bit mode. I am sure that CPU does support 64 Bit becuase I was able to install it directly on the hardware. Googling pointed to various direction including 1) checking the Virtualization option in BIOS - there is no option like that 2) Modifying the line in .VMX file on HP servers SMBIOS.reflectHost=TRUE No affect. 3) Upgrading the firmware on the server - done - no change. From what I understand - VMWare ESX 3.5 doesn't have a 32 bit and 64-Bit editions. Any help idea to check further will be appreciated. Thanks, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
I can tell you from experience that this is because VT is NOT enabled in the BIOS. Take a look at this thread: http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/bizsupport/questionanswer.do?ad mit=109447626+1239310929837+28353475threadId=1269051 Chris Bodnar, MCSE Sr. Systems Engineer Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services Guardian Life Insurance Company of America Email: christopher_bod...@glic.com Phone: 610-807-6459 Fax: 610-807-6003 -Original Message- From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 4:53 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX Hi: I am tyring to understand this phenomena. HP DL380G4 with Intel Xeon3.0 GHz processor. Using Smartstart - I can install Windows 2008 - 64 Bit edition. No problem. Than I installed VMWare ESX 3.5 with latest updates. Trying to install Same Windows 2008 - 64 Bit ; no go. It gives me the message Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this CPU is not compatible with 64-bit mode. I am sure that CPU does support 64 Bit becuase I was able to install it directly on the hardware. Googling pointed to various direction including 1) checking the Virtualization option in BIOS - there is no option like that 2) Modifying the line in .VMX file on HP servers SMBIOS.reflectHost=TRUE No affect. 3) Upgrading the firmware on the server - done - no change. From what I understand - VMWare ESX 3.5 doesn't have a 32 bit and 64-Bit editions. Any help idea to check further will be appreciated. Thanks, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ - This message, and any attachments to it, may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, copying, or communication of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
Where would I enable the DEP in the HP Server Bios? or Virtual Machine BIOS? because Windows OS is not yet installed!!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
It would be in the server BIOS. Look under Advanced Settings. -Original Message- From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 5:04 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX Where would I enable the DEP in the HP Server Bios? or Virtual Machine BIOS? because Windows OS is not yet installed!!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
Yes the BIOS is it it's under advanced processor or something like it. Sent from BlackBerry Bold - Original Message - From: Juned Shaikh jsha...@gmail.com To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thu Apr 09 16:53:03 2009 Subject: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX Hi: I am tyring to understand this phenomena. HP DL380G4 with Intel Xeon3.0 GHz processor. Using Smartstart - I can install Windows 2008 - 64 Bit edition. No problem. Than I installed VMWare ESX 3.5 with latest updates. Trying to install Same Windows 2008 - 64 Bit ; no go. It gives me the message Info: Attempting to load a 64-bit application, however this CPU is not compatible with 64-bit mode. I am sure that CPU does support 64 Bit becuase I was able to install it directly on the hardware. Googling pointed to various direction including 1) checking the Virtualization option in BIOS - there is no option like that 2) Modifying the line in .VMX file on HP servers SMBIOS.reflectHost=TRUE No affect. 3) Upgrading the firmware on the server - done - no change. From what I understand - VMWare ESX 3.5 doesn't have a 32 bit and 64-Bit editions. Any help idea to check further will be appreciated. Thanks, ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
I looked everywhere in the BIOS settings and found no reference to enabling or disabling the 64Bit. However the BIOS possibility is ruled out because I am able to install it directly. It is only on VMware ESX 3.5 as virtual machine its not working..!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
Did you see Processor advanced? __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] Sent: April-09-09 5:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX I looked everywhere in the BIOS settings and found no reference to enabling or disabling the 64Bit. However the BIOS possibility is ruled out because I am able to install it directly. It is only on VMware ESX 3.5 as virtual machine its not working..!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
Sounds like a no go for this server. I believe those particular netburst CPUs do not have the Intel VT feature. I believe you can run a 32bit guest OS under ESX3.x or ESXi3.x. Some quick googling; http://forums13.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?admit=109447627+1239317150393+28353475threadId=1271328 http://communities.vmware.com/thread/73300;jsessionid=FBAA0BF9189332B7EC7024B7C5DBC4A9?tstart=0start=0 http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12028_div/12028_div.html specs for the server? My guess based on about 5 minutes of research is these are Irwindale or Nacoma xeon cpus. If you could locate the spec number, it would be easier to tell. Probably they are SL7ZF cpus, which appear to not support Intel VT, but do support Intel 64. Though, I could be wrong. Gene Giannamore Abide International Inc. Technical Support 561 1st Street West Sonoma,Ca.95476 (707) 935-1577Office (707) 935-9387Fax (707) 766-4185Cell gene.giannam...@abideinternational.com -Original Message- From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com] Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 3:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX Did you see Processor advanced? __ Stefan Jafs -Original Message- From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] Sent: April-09-09 5:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX I looked everywhere in the BIOS settings and found no reference to enabling or disabling the 64Bit. However the BIOS possibility is ruled out because I am able to install it directly. It is only on VMware ESX 3.5 as virtual machine its not working..!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corpoartion company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
Re: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
Check out: [1]http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language =en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1003944 [2]http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=190 1 RM On Thu, 09 Apr 2009 17:56 -0400, Juned Shaikh jsha...@gmail.com wrote: I looked everywhere in the BIOS settings and found no reference to enabling or disabling the 64Bit. However the BIOS possibility is ruled out because I am able to install it directly. It is only on VMware ESX 3.5 as virtual machine its not working..!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~ References 1. http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_UScmd=displayKCexternalId=1003944 2. http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=1901 ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
RE: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX
Hi, Not only do you need a 64bit CPU, but you need Intel VT support enabled as well (or AMD-V). If your particular server's BIOS, or the CPU, doesn't support that, then I don't think you can run 64bit guests. What is the actual CPU you have in your machine? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Juned Shaikh [mailto:jsha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 10 April 2009 7:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Win2k8 - 64Bit on ESX I looked everywhere in the BIOS settings and found no reference to enabling or disabling the 64Bit. However the BIOS possibility is ruled out because I am able to install it directly. It is only on VMware ESX 3.5 as virtual machine its not working..!! ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/ ~
