Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Kurt Buff]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 16:10, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>> Not really (killing Silverlight).
>>
>> Interesting. MSFT has got a rather inconsistent message going, then.
>
>  Microsoft sending mixed signals about a product's future?
>
>  INCONCEIVABLE!

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>> Not really (killing Silverlight).
>
> Interesting. MSFT has got a rather inconsistent message going, then.

  Microsoft sending mixed signals about a product's future?

  INCONCEIVABLE!

-- Ben

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Carl Houseman]

LOL... Perhaps the OS should be renamed "Boxes". Or maybe "Tiles". Then they
could claim even more 'new'-ness.

Carl

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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Regarding the new Metro tiled UI, there's this commentary:

  http://i.imgur.com/vd2WA.jpg

;-)

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Jonathan Link]

Doesn't that make running an Outlook server difficult?

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> One that runs the PDFFS file system.
>
> ** **
>
> -sc
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2011 4:30 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> ** **
>
> What kind?
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Steven M. Caesare 
> wrote:
>
> I'm redeeming my points for a SAN.
>
> -sc
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:20 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> > +  internet points for sc
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:14 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> > Aren't mainframes the antithesis of chic?
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:49 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kurt Buff 
> > wrote:
> > > > It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I
> > hear...
> > >
> > >   Only if you already have mainframes.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven M. Caesare]

One that runs the PDFFS file system.

 

-sc

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

 

What kind?

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Steven M. Caesare
 wrote:

I'm redeeming my points for a SAN.

-sc


> -Original Message-
> From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> +  internet points for sc
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:14 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> Aren't mainframes the antithesis of chic?
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:49 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kurt Buff 
> wrote:
> > > It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I
> hear...
> >
> >   Only if you already have mainframes.
> >
> > -- Ben
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Jonathan Link]

What kind?

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:

> I'm redeeming my points for a SAN.
>
> -sc
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:20 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> > +  internet points for sc
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:14 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> > Aren't mainframes the antithesis of chic?
> >
> > -sc
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:49 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kurt Buff 
> > wrote:
> > > > It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I
> > hear...
> > >
> > >   Only if you already have mainframes.
> > >
> > > -- Ben
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven M. Caesare]

I'm redeeming my points for a SAN.

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 4:20 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> 
> +  internet points for sc
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:14 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> 
> Aren't mainframes the antithesis of chic?
> 
> -sc
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:49 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kurt Buff 
> wrote:
> > > It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I
> hear...
> >
> >   Only if you already have mainframes.
> >
> > -- Ben
> >
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Free, Bob]

+  internet points for sc

-Original Message-
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 1:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Aren't mainframes the antithesis of chic?

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:49 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
> 
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kurt Buff 
wrote:
> > It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I
hear...
> 
>   Only if you already have mainframes.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Free, Bob]

Lync 2010 and Sharepoint2010 seem to indicate they are planning on it being 
around :)


From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 11:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Not really (killing Silverlight).
Or at least that's my understanding from a vendor who is providing a service 
based on Silverlight.
As far as I can tell, they're just not trying to make it a substitute for Flash.


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kurt Buff 
mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:01, Ben Scott 
mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck 
> mailto:sep...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow them
>> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.
>
>  Still, if Metro becomes the success that Microsoft obviously hopes
> it does, that amounts to much the same thing.
>
>  Of course, I have to ask: Is Silverlight also unavailable in Metro IE?
>
> -- Ben
Why would it be? They're MSFT is killing Silverlight in favor of
HTML5, aren't they?

Kurt

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven M. Caesare]

Aren't mainframes the antithesis of chic?

-sc

> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 12:49 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
> 
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kurt Buff 
wrote:
> > It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I
hear...
> 
>   Only if you already have mainframes.
> 
> -- Ben
> 
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Jonathan Link]

Microsoft is consistently inconsistent in these matters.
http://anthonyfranco.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/the-reports-of-silverlights-death-have-been-greatly-exaggerated/

WP7 is a problem for them with Silverlight.  They can't kill Silverlight
without killing the phone.  Given that Nokia is now a partner on their
phones, they can't even really just kill Silverlight without some outside
input.



On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> Interesting. MSFT has got a rather inconsistent message going, then. I
> know I've read a piece somewhere that said they were deprecating it.
>
> And we all know how tech writers always get their facts straight...
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:24, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
> > Not really (killing Silverlight).
> > Or at least that's my understanding from a vendor who is providing a
> service
> > based on Silverlight.
> > As far as I can tell, they're just not trying to make it a substitute for
> > Flash.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:01, Ben Scott  wrote:
> >> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck 
> wrote:
> >> >> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does
> allow
> >> >> them
> >> >> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.
> >> >
> >> >  Still, if Metro becomes the success that Microsoft obviously hopes
> >> > it does, that amounts to much the same thing.
> >> >
> >> >  Of course, I have to ask: Is Silverlight also unavailable in Metro
> IE?
> >> >
> >> > -- Ben
> >>
> >> Why would it be? They're MSFT is killing Silverlight in favor of
> >> HTML5, aren't they?
> >>
> >> Kurt
> >>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Kurt Buff]

Interesting. MSFT has got a rather inconsistent message going, then. I
know I've read a piece somewhere that said they were deprecating it.

And we all know how tech writers always get their facts straight...

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:24, Jonathan Link  wrote:
> Not really (killing Silverlight).
> Or at least that's my understanding from a vendor who is providing a service
> based on Silverlight.
> As far as I can tell, they're just not trying to make it a substitute for
> Flash.
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:01, Ben Scott  wrote:
>> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>> >> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow
>> >> them
>> >> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.
>> >
>> >  Still, if Metro becomes the success that Microsoft obviously hopes
>> > it does, that amounts to much the same thing.
>> >
>> >  Of course, I have to ask: Is Silverlight also unavailable in Metro IE?
>> >
>> > -- Ben
>>
>> Why would it be? They're MSFT is killing Silverlight in favor of
>> HTML5, aren't they?
>>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven Peck]

The Windows Phone apps runs primarly on Silverlight code and they demo'd
Windows 8/Windows Phone apps with 1 live edits.  So I suspect it's just not
on the slide.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> Not really (killing Silverlight).
> Or at least that's my understanding from a vendor who is providing a
> service based on Silverlight.
> As far as I can tell, they're just not trying to make it a substitute for
> Flash.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:01, Ben Scott  wrote:
>> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>> >> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow
>> them
>> >> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.
>> >
>> >  Still, if Metro becomes the success that Microsoft obviously hopes
>> > it does, that amounts to much the same thing.
>> >
>> >  Of course, I have to ask: Is Silverlight also unavailable in Metro IE?
>> >
>> > -- Ben
>>
>> Why would it be? They're MSFT is killing Silverlight in favor of
>> HTML5, aren't they?
>>
>> Kurt
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Jonathan Link]

Not really (killing Silverlight).
Or at least that's my understanding from a vendor who is providing a service
based on Silverlight.
As far as I can tell, they're just not trying to make it a substitute for
Flash.


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kurt Buff  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:01, Ben Scott  wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
> >> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow
> them
> >> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.
> >
> >  Still, if Metro becomes the success that Microsoft obviously hopes
> > it does, that amounts to much the same thing.
> >
> >  Of course, I have to ask: Is Silverlight also unavailable in Metro IE?
> >
> > -- Ben
>
> Why would it be? They're MSFT is killing Silverlight in favor of
> HTML5, aren't they?
>
> Kurt
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Kurt Buff]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:01, Ben Scott  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow them
>> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.
>
>  Still, if Metro becomes the success that Microsoft obviously hopes
> it does, that amounts to much the same thing.
>
>  Of course, I have to ask: Is Silverlight also unavailable in Metro IE?
>
> -- Ben

Why would it be? They're MSFT is killing Silverlight in favor of
HTML5, aren't they?

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Shauna Hensala]

a better review:  
http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/09/metro-style-internet-explorer-10-ditches-flash-plugins.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss


Shauna Hensala




Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:39:53 -0700
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
From: sep...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com

Remember a lot of the 'initial' reviews are based on reporters access to the 
system on Monday and then writing furiously their discoveries to be published 
as soon as the blackout lifted on Tuesday. 
it doesn't kill Flash. It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  
It does allow them when you are launch IE from the desktop view.   Additional 
Reference:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/wininfo-short-takes-september-16-2011-140606
Microsoft Has Not "Banned" Flash from Windows 8 I've seen several reports this 
week claiming that Microsoft has followed Apple in joining the anti-Flash crowd 
and has banned the company's web technologies from Windows 8. That's not true. 
What's happened is that Windows 8 includes two versions of the Internet 
Explorer (IE) web browser, one that runs in the new shell (or Start screen) and 
one that runs on the classic desktop interface (like today's IE). The latter is 
fully 64-bit (on 64-bit versions of Windows), and there is in fact a beta 
version of Flash that works on that version. But the new "immersive" or 
"tailored" version of IE—the one that runs on the new shell—doesn't support 
add-ins, which is how Flash is currently delivered. This is entirely in keeping 
with the sandboxed, locked-down nature of these so-called Metro-style apps. But 
if you need Flash in Windows 8 for some reason, you've got it. In the desktop 
version of IE.


On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link  wrote:

I'll admit it, I've been under a rock. I think the interesting thing about 
this, is that it kills Flash for the Windows tablet. This is A Good Thing™.



On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:


For those under a rock.  Here's the videohttp://www.buildwindows.com/ I believe 
they said dev downloads would be available tonight I could be remembering it 
wrong.


 

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow them
> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.

  Still, if Metro becomes the success that Microsoft obviously hopes
it does, that amounts to much the same thing.

  Of course, I have to ask: Is Silverlight also unavailable in Metro IE?

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Jonathan Link]

Hence I said for the Tablet...

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> Remember a lot of the 'initial' reviews are based on reporters access to
> the system on Monday and then writing furiously their discoveries to be
> published as soon as the blackout lifted on Tuesday.
>
> it doesn't kill Flash.
>
> It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow them
> when you are launch IE from the desktop view.
>
> Additional Reference:
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/wininfo-short-takes-september-16-2011-140606
>
> *Microsoft Has Not "Banned" Flash from Windows 8*
>
> I've seen several reports this week claiming that Microsoft has followed
> Apple in joining the anti-Flash crowd and has banned the company's web
> technologies from Windows 8. That's not true. What's happened is that
> Windows 8 includes two versions of the Internet Explorer (IE) web browser,
> one that runs in the new shell (or Start screen) and one that runs on the
> classic desktop interface (like today's IE). The latter is fully 64-bit (on
> 64-bit versions of Windows), and there is in fact a beta version of Flash
> that works on that version. But the new "immersive" or "tailored" version of
> IE—the one that runs on the new shell—doesn't support add-ins, which is how
> Flash is currently delivered. This is entirely in keeping with the
> sandboxed, locked-down nature of these so-called Metro-style apps. But if
> you need Flash in Windows 8 for some reason, you've got it. In the desktop
> version of IE.
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link 
> wrote:
>
>> I'll admit it, I've been under a rock.
>>
>> I think the interesting thing about this, is that it kills Flash for the
>> Windows tablet.
>>
>> This is A Good Thing*™.*
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>>
>>> For those under a rock.  Here's the video
>>> http://www.buildwindows.com/
>>>
>>> I believe they said dev downloads would be available tonight I could be
>>> remembering it wrong.
>>>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven Peck]

Remember a lot of the 'initial' reviews are based on reporters access to the
system on Monday and then writing furiously their discoveries to be
published as soon as the blackout lifted on Tuesday.

it doesn't kill Flash.

It makes add-ons unavailable to IE in the 'metro' mode.  It does allow them
when you are launch IE from the desktop view.

Additional Reference:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/wininfo-short-takes-september-16-2011-140606

*Microsoft Has Not "Banned" Flash from Windows 8*

I've seen several reports this week claiming that Microsoft has followed
Apple in joining the anti-Flash crowd and has banned the company's web
technologies from Windows 8. That's not true. What's happened is that
Windows 8 includes two versions of the Internet Explorer (IE) web browser,
one that runs in the new shell (or Start screen) and one that runs on the
classic desktop interface (like today's IE). The latter is fully 64-bit (on
64-bit versions of Windows), and there is in fact a beta version of Flash
that works on that version. But the new "immersive" or "tailored" version of
IE—the one that runs on the new shell—doesn't support add-ins, which is how
Flash is currently delivered. This is entirely in keeping with the
sandboxed, locked-down nature of these so-called Metro-style apps. But if
you need Flash in Windows 8 for some reason, you've got it. In the desktop
version of IE.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:

> I'll admit it, I've been under a rock.
>
> I think the interesting thing about this, is that it kills Flash for the
> Windows tablet.
>
> This is A Good Thing*™.*
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:
>
>> For those under a rock.  Here's the video
>> http://www.buildwindows.com/
>>
>> I believe they said dev downloads would be available tonight I could be
>> remembering it wrong.
>>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Jonathan Link]

I'll admit it, I've been under a rock.

I think the interesting thing about this, is that it kills Flash for the
Windows tablet.

This is A Good Thing*™.*

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> For those under a rock.  Here's the video
> http://www.buildwindows.com/
>
> I believe they said dev downloads would be available tonight I could be
> remembering it wrong.
>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Kurt Buff  wrote:
> It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I hear...

  Only if you already have mainframes.

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Kurt Buff]

It's very chic right now to run Linux on mainframes, from what I hear...

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 07:18, Kim Longenbaugh  wrote:
> Maybe "they" meant mainframes...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:54 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> The other camp is free, can be configured to your heart's frustration,
> recompiled from source, has more different interfaces than is easily
> countable, and
>
> Oh, wait, you meant Apple.
>
> Sorry - I thought your were talking about a real alternative for business.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:42, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
>> "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
>> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies"
>>
>> and that's different from the other camp HOW ???
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith 
>>> wrote:
>>> > I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of
>>> > course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.
>>>
>>>  From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other
>>> fondle-slabs.  And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such
>>> environments.  The screens are mostly too small for overlapping
>>> windows to be  useful, and obviously touch is the way to do things.
>>> So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
>>> sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll
>>> mostly be displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.
>>>
>>>  What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
>>> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
>>> back to Metro now.  The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but
>>> that's what they said about the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this
>>> doesn't turn into another "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
>>> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies" affair.
>>>
>>> -- Ben
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Kim Longenbaugh]

Maybe "they" meant mainframes...

-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

The other camp is free, can be configured to your heart's frustration,
recompiled from source, has more different interfaces than is easily
countable, and

Oh, wait, you meant Apple.

Sorry - I thought your were talking about a real alternative for business.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:42, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
> "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies"
>
> and that's different from the other camp HOW ???
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith 
>> wrote:
>> > I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of
>> > course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.
>>
>>  From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other
>> fondle-slabs.  And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such
>> environments.  The screens are mostly too small for overlapping
>> windows to be  useful, and obviously touch is the way to do things.
>> So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
>> sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll
>> mostly be displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.
>>
>>  What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
>> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
>> back to Metro now.  The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but
>> that's what they said about the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this
>> doesn't turn into another "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
>> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies" affair.
>>
>> -- Ben
>>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Kurt Buff]

The other camp is free, can be configured to your heart's frustration,
recompiled from source, has more different interfaces than is easily
countable, and

Oh, wait, you meant Apple.

Sorry - I thought your were talking about a real alternative for business.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 09:42, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
> "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies"
>
> and that's different from the other camp HOW ???
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith 
>> wrote:
>> > I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of
>> > course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.
>>
>>  From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other
>> fondle-slabs.  And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such
>> environments.  The screens are mostly too small for overlapping
>> windows to be  useful, and obviously touch is the way to do things.
>> So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
>> sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll
>> mostly be displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.
>>
>>  What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
>> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
>> back to Metro now.  The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but
>> that's what they said about the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this
>> doesn't turn into another "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
>> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies" affair.
>>
>> -- Ben
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Erik Goldoff  wrote:
>> "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
>> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies"
>
> and that's different from the other camp HOW ???

  The argument "Those other guys suck too" never really impressed me much.

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Erik Goldoff]

"We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies"

and that's different from the other camp HOW ???

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Ben Scott  wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
> > I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of
> > course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.
>
>  From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other
> fondle-slabs.  And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such
> environments.  The screens are mostly too small for overlapping
> windows to be  useful, and obviously touch is the way to do things.
> So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
> sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll
> mostly be displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.
>
>  What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now.  The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but
> that's what they said about the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this
> doesn't turn into another "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
> do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies" affair.
>
> -- Ben
>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Crawford, Scott  wrote:
> Nice: "fondle-slab"
> :)

  I got that from /The Register/ a while back.  They're not always
accurate, but they're often entertaining.  :-)

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Tim Evans]

Mark Minasi has a nice write up on win8 server here: 
http://www.minasi.com/newsletters/nws1109.htm

Sounds like some really cool stuff is in the works.

...Tim

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 3:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 8 dev preview video

For those under a rock.  Here's the video
http://www.buildwindows.com/

I believe they said dev downloads would be available tonight I could be 
remembering it wrong.


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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Tobie Fysh]

Start Windows Explorer - right click Computer - Properties...

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: 15 September 2011 15:35
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Yes. I did it via script, but I'm sure there must be a UI there somewhere...

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


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From: John Hornbuckle 
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
option.


John




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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

> What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro. Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now.

It can be controlled by GP. I've already proven that to myself.

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[John Hornbuckle]

Got it. Thank you-I was losing my mind!




From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

It's the "System" control panel.

"System and Security" and then choose "System"

Cheers
Ken

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Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

I always join by right-clicking "Computer" in Win7 and going from there.

I'm obviously overlooking it... Rooting around in Control Panel I just don't 
see it. Is it under "Network and Internet," I assume? I'm there, but all I see 
is homegroup stuff.


From: Steve Ens 
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Yep, just go to the control paneland then it is just like Win 7.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Hornbuckle 
mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> 
wrote:
Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
option.


John




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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now.
It can be controlled by GP. I've already proven that to myself.



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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Crawford, Scott]

Win-pause is the shortcut to computer/properties.

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:46 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

I always join by right-clicking "Computer" in Win7 and going from there.

I'm obviously overlooking it... Rooting around in Control Panel I just don't 
see it. Is it under "Network and Internet," I assume? I'm there, but all I see 
is homegroup stuff.


From: Steve Ens 
[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Yep, just go to the control paneland then it is just like Win 7.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Hornbuckle 
mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> 
wrote:
Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
option.


John




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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now.
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ken Schaefer]

It's the "System" control panel.

"System and Security" and then choose "System"

Cheers
Ken

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:46 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

I always join by right-clicking "Computer" in Win7 and going from there.

I'm obviously overlooking it... Rooting around in Control Panel I just don't 
see it. Is it under "Network and Internet," I assume? I'm there, but all I see 
is homegroup stuff.


From: Steve Ens 
[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Yep, just go to the control paneland then it is just like Win 7.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Hornbuckle 
mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> 
wrote:
Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
option.


John




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From: Michael B. Smith 
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now.
It can be controlled by GP. I've already proven that to myself.



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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[John Hornbuckle]

I always join by right-clicking "Computer" in Win7 and going from there.

I'm obviously overlooking it... Rooting around in Control Panel I just don't 
see it. Is it under "Network and Internet," I assume? I'm there, but all I see 
is homegroup stuff.


From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Yep, just go to the control paneland then it is just like Win 7.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Hornbuckle 
mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>> 
wrote:
Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
option.


John




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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now.
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steve Ens]

Yep, just go to the control paneland then it is just like Win 7.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:25 AM, John Hornbuckle <
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:

> Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find
> that option.
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
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> > get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> > back to Metro now.
>
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Crawford, Scott]

Ahh. It *did* seem to good to be thought of on the spur of the moment.

From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Obviously reads The Register :-)
On 15 September 2011 15:02, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Nice: "fondle-slab"
:)

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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com<mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith 
mailto:mich...@smithcons.com>> wrote:
> I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of
> course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.

 From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other fondle-slabs. 
 And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such environments.  The screens 
are mostly too small for overlapping windows to be  useful, and obviously touch 
is the way to do things.
So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll mostly be 
displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.

 What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to get away 
from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches back to Metro now.  
The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but that's what they said about 
the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this doesn't turn into another "We're 
Microsoft, and we say you're going to do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies" 
affair.

-- Ben

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Jim Mediger]

Hover over the windows icon (lower left), Search, either type advanced system 
settings (don't forget to select "settings" below search) or select "control 
panel" from the Apps.

JimM

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Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
option.


John




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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
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Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now.

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Michael B. Smith]

Yes. I did it via script, but I'm sure there must be a UI there somewhere...

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Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
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John




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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to 
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches 
> back to Metro now.

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[John Hornbuckle]

Can the Dev Preview version be joined to a domain? I can't seem to find that 
option.


John




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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 10:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to 
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches 
> back to Metro now.

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[James Rankin]

Obviously reads The Register :-)

On 15 September 2011 15:02, Crawford, Scott  wrote:

> Nice: "fondle-slab"
> :)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:59 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith 
> wrote:
> > I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of
> > course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.
>
>  From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other
> fondle-slabs.  And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such
> environments.  The screens are mostly too small for overlapping windows to
> be  useful, and obviously touch is the way to do things.
> So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
> sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll mostly
> be displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.
>
>  What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to get
> away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches back to
> Metro now.  The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but that's what
> they said about the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this doesn't turn into
> another "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to do it *this* way now,
> so tough tootsies" affair.
>
> -- Ben
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Michael B. Smith]

>   What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
> get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
> back to Metro now. 

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Crawford, Scott]

Nice: "fondle-slab"
:)

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:59 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of 
> course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.

  From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other 
fondle-slabs.  And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such environments. 
 The screens are mostly too small for overlapping windows to be  useful, and 
obviously touch is the way to do things.
So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll mostly be 
displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.

  What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to get away 
from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches back to Metro now.  
The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but that's what they said about 
the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this doesn't turn into another "We're 
Microsoft, and we say you're going to do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies" 
affair.

-- Ben

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Michael B. Smith  wrote:
> I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of
> course - but right now, I see it as being very consumer.

  From what I've seen, it's targeted at phones, tablets, and other
fondle-slabs.  And it would appear to make a lot of sense in such
environments.  The screens are mostly too small for overlapping
windows to be  useful, and obviously touch is the way to do things.
So I see it as a win for that.  I don't really see "home desktops"
sticking around in their current role much longer -- I think they'll
mostly be displaced by fondle-slabs.  So all that makes sense to me.

  What's got me worried is all the noise about how it's very hard to
get away from Metro.  Even the Start button reportedly just switches
back to Metro now.  The standard refrain is "it's just a preview" but
that's what they said about the Ribbon, and Vista, too.  I hope this
doesn't turn into another "We're Microsoft, and we say you're going to
do it *this* way now, so tough tootsies" affair.

-- Ben

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Michael B. Smith]

I don't see Metro being deployed by Enterprise. I could be wrong, of course - 
but right now, I see it as being very consumer.

Regards,

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Consultant and Exchange MVP
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-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:29 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Regarding the new Metro tiled UI, there's this commentary:

  http://i.imgur.com/vd2WA.jpg

;-)

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Crawford, Scott]

Ctrl-esc is the shortcut for the windows key. But, this doesn't end the task.

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 7:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

The Windows key does it for me, but the Hyper-V VM screen has to be full-screen 
for this to work.



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
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From: Steve Ens 
[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

CTRL- ESC seems to do the trick.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. :)

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com<mailto:sep...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Alt-f4?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now there 
is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover keyboard 
shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though

From: John Hornbuckle 
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Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?



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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/



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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

Regarding the new Metro tiled UI, there's this commentary:

  http://i.imgur.com/vd2WA.jpg

;-)

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[John Hornbuckle]

The Windows key does it for me, but the Hyper-V VM screen has to be full-screen 
for this to work.



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From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 2:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

CTRL- ESC seems to do the trick.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. :)

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com<mailto:sep...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Alt-f4?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now there 
is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover keyboard 
shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/



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Re: OT: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[James Rankin]

Following on to this thread, looks like the developer preview doesn't play
too nicely on XenServer. In fact, I can't even shut the thing down once it
has crashed. Shame, since all of our sandbox environments run on Xen.

On 14 September 2011 20:18, Guyer, Don  wrote:

> Gotta Love The Egg! I placed an order this morning at 10:30AM EST and it
> shipped around Noon. And, free shipping at that.
>
>
> Don Guyer
> Windows Systems Engineer
> RIM Operations Engineering Distributed - A Team, Tier 2
> Enterprise Technology Group
> Fiserv
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> Go for it...
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176142
>
> Steve Ens wrote:
> > I need a touch screen!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott
> > mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
> >
> > Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:sep...@gmail.com>]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM
> >
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> > *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> >
> >
> > Alt-f4?
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens  > <mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win
> > 7.  Now there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.
> >  Anyone discover keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you
> > enter it?  D'oh!
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer
> > mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in
> >     VMWare Workstation though
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* John Hornbuckle
> > [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us
> > <mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> >
> > MIS Department
> >
> > Taylor County School District
> >
> > www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
> > <mailto:%5Bmailto:sca...@gmail.com%5D>
> >
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
> >
> > *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
> >
> >
> >
> > ISOs are avail:
> >
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
> >
> >
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

  Supposedly the BSOD is changed now:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/14/windows-8-bsod-ditches-confusing-error-codes-for-uninformative-f/

  Why is it that so many software designers think that replacing
something most people can't understand with something *nobody* can
understand is an improvement?

-- Ben

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Brad DeHart]

Try using the Windows key.  Since it puts apps in a suspended state when they 
are not active, it works pretty much like the home button on a iDevice now.

Thanks,

Brad DeHart
Senior Network Systems Administrator
Kern Health Systems
(661)664-5068
brad.deh...@khs-net.com

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now there 
is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover keyboard 
shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/



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OT: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Guyer, Don]

Gotta Love The Egg! I placed an order this morning at 10:30AM EST and it
shipped around Noon. And, free shipping at that.


Don Guyer
Windows Systems Engineer
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Enterprise Technology Group
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Go for it...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176142

Steve Ens wrote:
> I need a touch screen!  
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
> mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
>
> Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J
>
>  
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com
> <mailto:sep...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> Alt-f4?
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens  <mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win
> 7.  Now there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.
>  Anyone discover keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you
> enter it?  D'oh!
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer
> mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
>
> Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in
> VMWare Workstation though
>
>  
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle
> [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us
> <mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>
>  
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>
>
>      
>
>      
>
>  
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
> <mailto:%5Bmailto:sca...@gmail.com%5D>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> ISOs are avail:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource 
> hog! ~
>
>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steve Ens]

Business expense...

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Bill Humphries wrote:

> Go for it...
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/**Product.aspx?Item=**N82E16824176142<http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176142>
>
> Steve Ens wrote:
>
>> I need a touch screen!
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
>> > crawfo...@evangel.edu>**> wrote:
>>
>>Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J
>>
>>
>>*From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com
>><mailto:sep...@gmail.com>]
>>*Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM
>>
>>
>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>*Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>
>>Alt-f4?
>>
>>On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens ><mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win
>>7.  Now there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.
>> Anyone discover keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you
>>enter it?  D'oh!
>>
>>On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer
>>mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
>>
>>Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in
>>VMWare Workstation though
>>
>>
>>    *From:* John Hornbuckle
>>
>> [mailto:john.hornbuckle@**taylor.k12.fl.us
>>
>> <mailto:john.hornbuckle@**taylor.k12.fl.us
>> >]
>>*Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>>
>>
>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>>*Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>
>>Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>>
>>    MIS Department
>>
>>Taylor County School District
>>
>>www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>*From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
>><mailto:%5Bmailto:scayze@**gmail.com <5bmailto%3asca...@gmail.com>
>> %5D>
>>
>>*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
>>
>>
>>*To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>
>>*Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>
>>ISOs are avail:
>>
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-**us/windows/home/<http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/>
>>
>>
>>~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>
>>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Bill Humphries]

Go for it...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824176142

Steve Ens wrote:
I need a touch screen!  

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:


Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J

 


*From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com
<mailto:sep...@gmail.com>]
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM


*To:* NT System Admin Issues
    *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

 


Alt-f4?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win
7.  Now there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.
 Anyone discover keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you
enter it?  D'oh!

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:

Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in
VMWare Workstation though

 


*From:* John Hornbuckle
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us
<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM

 


    *To:* NT System Admin Issues

*Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

 


Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?

 

 

 


John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us <http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>

 

 

 


*From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
<mailto:%5Bmailto:sca...@gmail.com%5D>

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM

    *To:* NT System Admin Issues

*Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

 


ISOs are avail:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/

 


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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven Peck]

File an issue on connect.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Almost, but the process is still running.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:52 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> ** **
>
> CTRL- ESC seems to do the trick.
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
> wrote:
>
> Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J
>
>  
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM****
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> Alt-f4?
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:**
> **
>
> I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now
> there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover
> keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
> wrote:
>
>   Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare
> Workstation though
>
>  
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>
>  
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District****
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> ISOs are avail:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>
>
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Crawford, Scott]

Almost, but the process is still running.

From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

CTRL- ESC seems to do the trick.
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. :)

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com<mailto:sep...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Alt-f4?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now there 
is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover keyboard 
shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/



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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steve Ens]

CTRL- ESC seems to do the trick.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> ** **
>
> Alt-f4?
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:**
> **
>
> I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now
> there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover
> keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
> wrote:
>
>   Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare
> Workstation though
>
>  
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>
> ** **
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> ISOs are avail:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>
>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Richard Stovall]

You misspelled "hug!"

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
> I need a touch screen!
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott 
> wrote:
>>
>> Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>
>>
>> Alt-f4?
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:
>>
>> I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now
>> there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover
>> keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare
>> Workstation though
>>
>>
>>
>> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
>> Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>>
>> MIS Department
>>
>> Taylor County School District
>>
>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
>>
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>
>>
>> ISOs are avail:
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
>>
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
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>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steve Ens]

I need a touch screen!

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. J
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> ** **
>
> Alt-f4?
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:**
> **
>
> I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now
> there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover
> keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
> wrote:
>
>   Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare
> Workstation though
>
>  
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>
> ** **
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>
> MIS Department
>
> Taylor County School District
>
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  
>
> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  
>
> ISOs are avail:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
>
>  
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>
>
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ---
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>
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Crawford, Scott]

Nope.  My best so far is ctrl-shft-esc, end task. :)

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Alt-f4?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens 
mailto:stevey...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now there 
is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover keyboard 
shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer 
mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote:
Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though

From: John Hornbuckle 
[mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us<mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us>



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/



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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven Peck]

Alt-f4?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Steve Ens  wrote:

> I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now
> there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover
> keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer wrote:
>
>>  Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare
>> Workstation though
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>>
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
>>
>> MIS Department
>>
>> Taylor County School District
>>
>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> ISOs are avail:
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>> ---
>> To manage subscriptions click here:
>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/
>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com
>> with the body: unsubscribe ntsysadmin
>>
>>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steve Ens]

I've got it running on a hyper v host.  Installs faster than Win 7.  Now
there is no touch screen, just using mouse/keyboard.  Anyone discover
keyboard shortcut to exit an "app" after you enter it?  D'oh!

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:10 AM, Ken Schaefer  wrote:

>  Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare
> Workstation though
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
>  ** **
>
> Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
>
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven Peck]

I wouldn't expect it in a 'free market' but really, this was their stated
goal since they did the full stop refocus on security a few years ago.  The
articles at the time of Vista development were obvious they were doing a
full audit and refactoring of windows core kernel and api's to kill or move
cruft.  A lot of which went into Windows 7 but the engineering blogs at the
time also pointed out how they had even bigger modularity plans then too.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Carl Houseman  wrote:

> Yes, good news but don't think for a moment they did this out of the
> goodness of their heart.  It's all about running on tablets where CPUs are
> slower and RAM is less.  Windows must compete in the tablet market or
> suffer
> a slow lingering death...
>
> Carl
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:
> [a bunch of stuff]
>
>  Wow.  Thanks for that, very informative!  It does sound intriguing.
> I'm especially heartened by the "smaller memory footprint" and "faster
> boot" pieces.  For the first time in, I think, forever, with Win 7 and
> (if this holds) 8, Microsoft is trending towards improving
> performance.  Good news.
>
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Carl Houseman]

Yes, good news but don't think for a moment they did this out of the
goodness of their heart.  It's all about running on tablets where CPUs are
slower and RAM is less.  Windows must compete in the tablet market or suffer
a slow lingering death...

Carl
 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:
[a bunch of stuff]

  Wow.  Thanks for that, very informative!  It does sound intriguing.
I'm especially heartened by the "smaller memory footprint" and "faster
boot" pieces.  For the first time in, I think, forever, with Win 7 and
(if this holds) 8, Microsoft is trending towards improving
performance.  Good news.

-- Ben


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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[kz20fl]

Can it do a task manager on a remote machine?

Sent from my POS BlackBerry  wireless device, which may wipe itself at any 
moment

-Original Message-
From: Pete Howard 
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:06:50 
To: NT System Admin Issues
Reply-To: "NT System Admin Issues" 
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

Boots up easily with virtualbox or vmware workstation 8 which was also released 
today. Nice to see the big red X for delete is back in the explorer toolbar 
that they removed since vista. Logs to the cloud by default @  
LOGONSERVER=\\WindowsLiveID.  Taskmgr looks much improved and took some clues 
from process explorer. 



From: Ken Schaefer 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video


 
Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though
 
From:John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
 
Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
 
 
 
John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
From:Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
 
ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
 
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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Pete Howard]

Boots up easily with virtualbox or vmware workstation 8 which was also released 
today. Nice to see the big red X for delete is back in the explorer toolbar 
that they removed since vista. Logs to the cloud by default @  
LOGONSERVER=\\WindowsLiveID.  Taskmgr looks much improved and took some clues 
from process explorer. 



From: Ken Schaefer 
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video


 
Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though
 
From:John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
 
Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?
 
 
 
John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
From:Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video
 
ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/
 
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ken Schaefer]

Installer seems to be working OK in Hyper-V (R2). Fails in VMWare Workstation 
though

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2011 9:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]<mailto:[mailto:sca...@gmail.com]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

ISOs are avail:
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[John Hornbuckle]

Anyone know if this can be installed in a Hyper-V VM?



John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
MIS Department
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www.taylor.k12.fl.us



From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

ISOs are avail:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/


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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[John Hornbuckle]

Yep--MS has made it clear that the system requirements for Win8 will be the 
same as--or even less than--for Win7. Woot!



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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:
[a bunch of stuff]

  Wow.  Thanks for that, very informative!  It does sound intriguing.
I'm especially heartened by the "smaller memory footprint" and "faster boot" 
pieces.  For the first time in, I think, forever, with Win 7 and (if this 
holds) 8, Microsoft is trending towards improving performance.  Good news.

-- Ben


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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Steven Peck  wrote:
[a bunch of stuff]

  Wow.  Thanks for that, very informative!  It does sound intriguing.
I'm especially heartened by the "smaller memory footprint" and "faster
boot" pieces.  For the first time in, I think, forever, with Win 7 and
(if this holds) 8, Microsoft is trending towards improving
performance.  Good news.

-- Ben

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steven Peck]

I don't remember that part, but it is a dev build, not even beta.  I thought
the part where Steve was longing for the 'bing' app and she said, 'skip it'
which I thought was pretty funny.  Having been involved in a demo once where
one of the parts broke the day before the demo and we had to step past it I
fully sympathized. :)

The memory foot print part was demo'd on the same netbook that Steve Sinosky
used to demo/introduce Windows 7 a few years ago.  Much of it's strength is
the flexibility of the new interface with the availability of the old
desktop style desktop for those situations where it makes sense (power
users, corporations, etc).

The cross section of processers that it will be available for make me
wonder if new metro style apps that will be portable to the new xbox this
fall.  They did some demo's and show portability to the Windows Phone and
several things (compiled right) will run on the phone and xbox.  Apps
written in xaml, html, javascript will run across all cpu platforms, they
will provide tools to cross compile other code bases across cpu
architectures.

One of the demo's tried to boot with a boot sector virus on a USB stick, the
system had UFEI which stopped the boot.  They had various hw demo's as
well.  (insane start and shutdown).I liked one 'extreme system'  with 3
nvidia's in SLI and water cooled :).  Their emphasis was that all native
code would take advantage of hardware grapics accelleration by default.

Best joke while demo'ing the the metro IE10, "Nothing better then a chrome
free browsing experience".

Support for acceleromers, magnatrometer, NFC.  A lot of what they seem to be
doing is about exposing one apps tools and capabilities to other apps on the
system.  Much like the Windows Phone does.

They were seriously into 'stickiness' and wasted no opertunity to show how
responsive the touch UI was.

3 of the ultrabook models Intel is pimping lately. (Asus, Acer, Toshiba)

They made people really happy with the mention of 5000 Samsung slates to
hand out.  These things look like my wife's next system.  That or something
remarkably like it when it's real production for us normal people :)

They've improved the old desktop where wallpaper will finally stretch across
dual monitors.  Run metro on one and regular desktop on the other, etc.
Task manager much improved.  They added an App History tab, a 'startup tab
(start up porgrams listed centrally in task manager)  Task bar improved as
well.

They talked about new 'recovery' environment.
Resest and refresh.  - Files and personalization will not change but system
defaults will be refreshed
Reset your PC and start over - nukes files and apps and restarts the system
to 'out of box experience'
-mentioned additional tools to set the baseline image.

They showed the Remote Desktop client
- it goes to the Start screen to the other system and it brings your 'screen
capabilities with it (i.e. your system has touch screen, the other doesn't)
HyperV on the desktop
Mounting ISO's into file system

They went through keyboard shortcuts to show us they are still with us then
did a multi-finger html5 browser demo.
Some remote access capabilities crossing 'the cloud' and accessing your home
or work systems depending on firewall configuration.  This was with a
windows live ID.  New Windows Live applications as well.

The presentation was 3 and 1/2 hours.  It was full of overview information.
I am seriously looking forward to it's evolution and the release next year.


Steven Peck
http://www.blkmtn.org










On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Sam Cayze  wrote:

> I quit watching when she couldn't get IE working and had to change
> machines... I lol'd.
> But seriously, there is some cool stuff going on in Windows 8 so far.  I
> was
> really impressed.
> The memory footprint is smaller, the boot times are insane...
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:35 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
> > I streamed it today.  Pretty impressive
>
>  Oh?  Do tell.
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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Sam Cayze]

I quit watching when she couldn't get IE working and had to change
machines... I lol'd.
But seriously, there is some cool stuff going on in Windows 8 so far.  I was
really impressed.
The memory footprint is smaller, the boot times are insane...

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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 9:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
> I streamed it today.  Pretty impressive

  Oh?  Do tell.

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Ben Scott]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Steve Ens  wrote:
> I streamed it today.  Pretty impressive

  Oh?  Do tell.

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RE: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Sam Cayze]

ISOs are avail:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/

 

 

 

From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Windows 8 dev preview video

 

For those under a rock.  Here's the video

http://www.buildwindows.com/

 

I believe they said dev downloads would be available tonight I could be
remembering it wrong.

 

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Re: Windows 8 dev preview video

[Steve Ens]

I streamed it today.  Pretty impressive

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Steven Peck  wrote:

> For those under a rock.  Here's the video
> http://www.buildwindows.com/
>
> I believe they said dev downloads would be available tonight I could be
> remembering it wrong.
>
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