Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Steve Ens 
Lol, Shindlers...

Sent from my FriPad

On 2011-07-21, at 9:32 PM, Jon Harris  wrote:

> Since the Shindlers were or are members of the forum maybe they could chime 
> in on this as well?  I know that they were/are big Microsoft proponents for 
> ISA much to some peoples amusement but it worked.
>  
> Jon
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> So far, your requirements sound like almost every UTM device on the market... 
>  (minus the reverse proxy, which most people put behind that device)
> 
> So, that's what I would target...
> 
> Here is someplace to start:  
> https://mosaicsecurity.com/categories/68-unified-threat-management
> 
> 
> There's no combo solution that I'm aware of, probably because it is not the 
> best-advised combo
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ocscertificates/thread/1c69584d-850e-4c65-a9ea-051a7d5442ad
> 
> 
> ASB
> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:47 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec  wrote:
> >>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
> >
> > As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides 
> > no useful 
> > context for me to suggest an alternative.
> 
> 
> Enterprise firewall, common "IN" door for all access from the net.
> 
> Define internal sites (web and other) to be published. 
> SSL certs (can) live here. 
> Ports/protocols can be defined with fine granularity.
> 
> Does that help?  
> (Other users please chime in.)
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> >>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
> 
> As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides no 
> useful context for me to suggest an alternative.
> 
> 
> 
> >>What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.
> 
> But very familiar to accountants and CFOs the world round.   It also helps to 
> provide a context for viable solutions.
> 
> 
> ASB
> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec  wrote:
> > What functionality do you need?
> 
> Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
> 
> 
> > What price would you like to pay?
> 
> What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:
> What functionality do you need?
> 
> What price would you like to pay?
> 
> ASB
> http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker
> Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector  wrote:
> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
> recommend?
> 
> Sean Rector, MCSE
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
> 
> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
> 
> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
> see the whole product die.
> 
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...
> 
> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
> 
> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.
> 
> We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
> kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.
> 
> 
> --
> G. Waleed Kavalec
> __
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> 
> 
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> 
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> 
> 
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> __
> Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned 
> parenthood cra

Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Jon Harris 
Since the Shindlers were or are members of the forum maybe they could chime
in on this as well?  I know that they were/are big Microsoft proponents for
ISA much to some peoples amusement but it worked.

Jon

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> So far, your requirements sound like almost every UTM device on the
> market...  (minus the reverse proxy, which most people put behind that
> device)
>
> So, that's what I would target...
>
> Here is someplace to start:
> https://mosaicsecurity.com/categories/68-unified-threat-management
>
>
> There's no combo solution that I'm aware of, probably because it is not the
> best-advised combo
>
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ocscertificates/thread/1c69584d-850e-4c65-a9ea-051a7d5442ad
>
>
> * *
>
> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
> Technology for the SMB market…
>
> *
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:47 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
>
>> *>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.*
>> >
>> > As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this
>> provides no useful
>> > context for me to suggest an alternative.
>>
>>
>> Enterprise firewall, common "IN" door for all access from the net.
>>
>> Define internal sites (web and other) to be published.
>> SSL certs (can) live here.
>> Ports/protocols can be defined with fine granularity.
>>
>> Does that help?
>> (Other users please chime in.)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>
>>> *>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.*
>>>
>>> As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this
>>> provides no useful context for me to suggest an alternative.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  *>>What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.*
>>>
>>> But very familiar to accountants and CFOs the world round.   It also
>>> helps to provide a context for viable solutions.
>>>
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
>>>
>>>> > What functionality do you need?
>>>>
>>>> Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > What price would you like to pay?
>>>>
>>>> What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What functionality do you need?
>>>>>
>>>>> What price would you like to pay?
>>>>>
>>>>> * *
>>>>>
>>>>> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector >>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> recommend?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean Rector, MCSE
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
>>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
>>>>>> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
>>>>>> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
>>>>>> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
>>>>>> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> see the whole product die.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
>&g

Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
So far, your requirements sound like almost every UTM device on the
market...  (minus the reverse proxy, which most people put behind that
device)

So, that's what I would target...

Here is someplace to start:
https://mosaicsecurity.com/categories/68-unified-threat-management


There's no combo solution that I'm aware of, probably because it is not the
best-advised combo
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/ocscertificates/thread/1c69584d-850e-4c65-a9ea-051a7d5442ad


* *

*ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
Technology for the SMB market…

*



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 2:47 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec  wrote:

> *>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.*
> >
> > As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this
> provides no useful
> > context for me to suggest an alternative.
>
>
> Enterprise firewall, common "IN" door for all access from the net.
>
> Define internal sites (web and other) to be published.
> SSL certs (can) live here.
> Ports/protocols can be defined with fine granularity.
>
> Does that help?
> (Other users please chime in.)
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>
>> *>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.*
>>
>> As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides
>> no useful context for me to suggest an alternative.
>>
>>
>>
>>  *>>What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.*
>>
>> But very familiar to accountants and CFOs the world round.   It also helps
>> to provide a context for viable solutions.
>>
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
>>
>>> > What functionality do you need?
>>>
>>> Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
>>>
>>>
>>> > What price would you like to pay?
>>>
>>> What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>>
>>>> What functionality do you need?
>>>>
>>>> What price would you like to pay?
>>>>
>>>> * *
>>>>
>>>> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>>
>>>> *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
>>>>> recommend?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean Rector, MCSE
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>>>>
>>>>> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
>>>>> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
>>>>> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
>>>>> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
>>>>> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
>>>>> see the whole product die.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
>>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>>> Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>>>>
>>>>> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
>>>>> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
>>>>>
>>>>> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management
>>>>> Gateway.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
>>>>> kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> G. Waleed Kavalec
>>>>> __
>>>>>

RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Crawford, Scott 
I don't think Andrew's asking for a rundown of ISA/TMG features, but rather 
which specific features you need. I don't think you'll find a 1 to 1 
replacement for ISA/TMG from any one vendor.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
>
> As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides no 
> useful
> context for me to suggest an alternative.


Enterprise firewall, common "IN" door for all access from the net.

Define internal sites (web and other) to be published.
SSL certs (can) live here.
Ports/protocols can be defined with fine granularity.

Does that help?
(Other users please chime in.)


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.

As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides no 
useful context for me to suggest an alternative.


>>What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.

But very familiar to accountants and CFOs the world round.   It also helps to 
provide a context for viable solutions.

ASB

http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec 
mailto:kava...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What functionality do you need?

Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.


> What price would you like to pay?

What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker 
mailto:asbz...@gmail.com>> wrote:
What functionality do you need?

What price would you like to pay?

ASB

http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker

Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector 
mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org>> wrote:
So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
recommend?

Sean Rector, MCSE

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov<mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov>]
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
roll up into the cloud, but who knows...

>>> "Crawford, Scott" mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> 
>>> 7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
see the whole product die.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com<mailto:kava...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...

Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?

We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.

We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.


--
G. Waleed Kavalec
__

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~

~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a 
crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave 
themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.



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G. Waleed Kavalec
__
Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned 
parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a 
crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave 
themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.



~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec 
*>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.*
>
> As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides
no useful
> context for me to suggest an alternative.


Enterprise firewall, common "IN" door for all access from the net.

Define internal sites (web and other) to be published.
SSL certs (can) live here.
Ports/protocols can be defined with fine granularity.

Does that help?
(Other users please chime in.)


On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Andrew S. Baker  wrote:

> *>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.*
>
> As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides
> no useful context for me to suggest an alternative.
>
>
>
> *>>What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.*
>
> But very familiar to accountants and CFOs the world round.   It also helps
> to provide a context for viable solutions.
>
>
> * *
>
> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
> Technology for the SMB market…
>
> *
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:
>
>> > What functionality do you need?
>>
>> Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
>>
>>
>> > What price would you like to pay?
>>
>> What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>>
>>> What functionality do you need?
>>>
>>> What price would you like to pay?
>>>
>>> * *
>>>
>>> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
>>>> recommend?
>>>>
>>>> Sean Rector, MCSE
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>>>
>>>> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
>>>> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
>>>> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
>>>> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
>>>>
>>>> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
>>>> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
>>>> see the whole product die.
>>>>
>>>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
>>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>>> Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>>>
>>>> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
>>>> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
>>>>
>>>> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.
>>>>
>>>> We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
>>>> kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> G. Waleed Kavalec
>>>> __
>>>>
>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>>>
>>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>>
>>> ---
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> G. Waleed Kavalec
>> __
>> Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned
>> parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a
>> crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave
>> themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.
>>
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
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parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a
crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave
themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
*>>Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.*

As I am not using ISA 2006 (and haven't touched it in ages), this provides
no useful context for me to suggest an alternative.



*>>What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.*

But very familiar to accountants and CFOs the world round.   It also helps
to provide a context for viable solutions.


* *

*ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
Technology for the SMB market…

*



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:57 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec wrote:

> > What functionality do you need?
>
> Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.
>
>
> > What price would you like to pay?
>
> What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:49 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
>
>> What functionality do you need?
>>
>> What price would you like to pay?
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *ASB* *http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker* *Harnessing the Advantages of
>> Technology for the SMB market…
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector wrote:
>>
>>> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
>>> recommend?
>>>
>>> Sean Rector, MCSE
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>>
>>> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
>>> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
>>> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
>>> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
>>>
>>> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
>>> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
>>> see the whole product die.
>>>
>>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>>
>>> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
>>> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
>>>
>>> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.
>>>
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Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec 
> What functionality do you need?

Essentially the same as ISA 2006, but 64-bit.


> What price would you like to pay?

What is this word "price"?  It is unfamiliar to me.



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> What functionality do you need?
>
> What price would you like to pay?
>
> * *
>
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>
>
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> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector wrote:
>
>> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
>> recommend?
>>
>> Sean Rector, MCSE
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>
>> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
>> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
>> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
>> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
>>
>> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
>> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
>> see the whole product die.
>>
>> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...
>>
>> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
>> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
>>
>> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.
>>
>> We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
>> kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.
>>
>>
>> --
>> G. Waleed Kavalec
>> __
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Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec 
THANK YOU.

That is what I am trying to get a straight answer to.



On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Sean Rector wrote:

> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
> recommend?
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
>
> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
>
> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
> see the whole product die.
>
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...
>
> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
>
> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.
>
> We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
> kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.
>
>
> --
> G. Waleed Kavalec
> __
> Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned
> parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money,
> spilled a crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our
> 401ks, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah -
> me, neither.
>
>
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Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Andrew S. Baker 
What functionality do you need?

What price would you like to pay?

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On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Sean Rector wrote:

> So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
> recommend?
>
> Sean Rector, MCSE
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...
>
> TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
> statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
> that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
> roll up into the cloud, but who knows...
>
> >>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
> Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
> see the whole product die.
>
> From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...
>
> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
>
> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.
>
> We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
> kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.
>
>
> --
> G. Waleed Kavalec
> __
>

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RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Sean Rector 
So as an ISA shop wanting to replace that aging system, what do you all
recommend?

Sean Rector, MCSE

-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear
statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of
that arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will
roll up into the cloud, but who knows...

>>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to
see the whole product die.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...

Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?

We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.

We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting
kind of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.


--
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__
Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned
parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money,
spilled a crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our
401ks, gave themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah -
me, neither.



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RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Joseph Heaton 
TMG is most definitely NOT being developed anymore.  There is no clear 
statement as to their intentions, other than they are getting out of that 
arena.  UAG will remain, and a lot of people think that TMG will roll up into 
the cloud, but who knows...

>>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:07 PM >>>
Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to see the 
whole product die.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...

Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the path 
forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?

We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.

We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting kind of 
work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.


--
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__
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parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a 
crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave 
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RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-21 Thread Joseph Heaton 
I posted a while back with a link from a Gartner report.  In that report, there 
was a quote from Microsoft stating that they would no longer be competing in 
that arena.  TMG will be maintained with the next Service Pack, and security 
upgrades, in the normal maintenance period.  5 years of regular maintenance, 
then 5 more of extended maintenance.  So, if you're currently using TMG, or 
have been looking at going to it, it will be supported for quite a while, so 
don't be afraid to use it.

>>> "Crawford, Scott"  7/20/2011 3:31 PM >>>
Do you have an official link to that or just what someone heard an MS rep say?  
I've just not seen it officially stated anywhere.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

They are very vague on it, all that is certain is no upgrade path for TMG.


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to see the 
whole product die.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com<mailto:kava...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...

Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the path 
forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?

We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.

We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting kind of 
work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.


--
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__
Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned 
parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a 
crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave 
themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.



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RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-20 Thread Crawford, Scott 
Do you have an official link to that or just what someone heard an MS rep say?  
I've just not seen it officially stated anywhere.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 5:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

They are very vague on it, all that is certain is no upgrade path for TMG.


On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Crawford, Scott 
mailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu>> wrote:
Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to see the 
whole product die.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com<mailto:kava...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...

Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the path 
forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?

We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.

We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting kind of 
work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.


--
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__
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parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a 
crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave 
themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.



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Re: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-20 Thread G.Waleed Kavalec 
They are very vague on it, all that is certain is no upgrade path for TMG.



On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Crawford, Scott wrote:

>  Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I’d hate to
> see the whole product die.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* With ISA / TMG going away...
>
> ** **
>
> Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the
> path forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?
>
> ** **
>
> We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.**
> **
>
> ** **
>
> We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting kind
> of work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> G. Waleed Kavalec
>
> __
>
> Remember when teachers, public employees, unions, npr, pbs, and planned
> parenthood crashed the stock market, took trillions in TARP money, spilled a
> crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave
> themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.***
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RE: With ISA / TMG going away...

2011-07-20 Thread Crawford, Scott 
Is this happening for sure?  Are they rolling TMG into UAG? I'd hate to see the 
whole product die.

From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: With ISA / TMG going away...

Or into "no more upgrade" status, what would this list recommend as the path 
forward for a small-to-medium sized shop?

We still use ISA 2006 and had been looking at Threat Management Gateway.

We have two sites, and do major service-bureau and specialized hosting kind of 
work.  All Windows. Mostly 2008.


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crapload of oil in the Gulf of Mexico, wiped out half of our 401ks, gave 
themselves billions in bonuses, and payed no taxes? Yeah - me, neither.



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