RE: blacklists

2008-07-31 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 28 Jul 2008 at 17:23, Dennis Hoefer  wrote:

 Open Policy Manager on theWatchguard 700, youwill have either a proxy or
 filter policy for SMTP. On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP address
 of your mail server and To: to all The default rule is all to all, which
 will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on your network. By
 setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will block any internal
 machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic on their own.You can
 also set the rule to log denied traffic which will quickly identify internal
 machines that areattempting to use port 25. 

If there's any way to log attempts to use port 25, do that as well, then you 
can figure out which machine(s) are trying to send.  I implemented just such a 
pair of IPTABLES rules on an IPCop firewall for a client-of-a-colleague who 
kept getting blacklisted and we discovered a forgotten box on a Frame Relay 
line from a remote site which she wasn't aware of when she checked 'all' the 
computers for infections.

--
Angus Scott-Fleming
GeoApps, Tucson, Arizona
1-520-290-5038
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RE: blacklists

2008-07-29 Thread Paul Everett
Everything is looking good this morning, as far as our email is
concerned and so far still off the blacklists.  In host watch of the
Watchguard System Manager, I am getting numerous (hundreds/minute)
outbound Filtered-SMTP denies from my DC (which is my mail gateway).
I thought mail was just going thru there one-way (incoming).

Mail in -WG Firewall - DC (Symantec Mail Security for SMTP) -
Exchange Server - WG Firewall - Mail out.

Could there just be a misconfiguration on my DC?

 

Paul

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

They are proxy's.  I have two defined.  One called SMTP and it has the
incoming set From: any, To: WG ip - DC (mail gateway).  The outgoing
tab is disabled.

The other proxy is called Filtered-SMTP.  It's Incoming is Disabled and
the Outgoing is set From: Any, To: Any.  I change this From: Exchange
ip, To: Any.

I've never been able to figure logging on the WG.  I can never find the
logs and for email, I can't find where to set the address??  The WG
interface seems so simple, but it really makes me feel like an idiot at
times.

 

Hope this is good enough damage control for tonight.  I'll be back in
the am to check things and do more investigating.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

Paul

 



From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to all  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.

 

Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  

 

Dennis  

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server).  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet

RE: blacklists

2008-07-29 Thread Tim Evans
It sounds like either something is misconfigured, your DC is infected
or you don't correctly understand how mail is supposed to flow in your
network.  Get on your DC and run netstat -no and looks for connection to
port 25 on your  firewall. Then look up the PID in task manager to see
what process on the DC is sending the mail.

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Everything is looking good this morning, as far as our email is
concerned and so far still off the blacklists.  In host watch of the
Watchguard System Manager, I am getting numerous (hundreds/minute)
outbound Filtered-SMTP denies from my DC (which is my mail gateway).
I thought mail was just going thru there one-way (incoming).

Mail in -WG Firewall - DC (Symantec Mail Security for SMTP) -
Exchange Server - WG Firewall - Mail out.

Could there just be a misconfiguration on my DC?

 

Paul

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

They are proxy's.  I have two defined.  One called SMTP and it has the
incoming set From: any, To: WG ip - DC (mail gateway).  The outgoing
tab is disabled.

The other proxy is called Filtered-SMTP.  It's Incoming is Disabled and
the Outgoing is set From: Any, To: Any.  I change this From: Exchange
ip, To: Any.

I've never been able to figure logging on the WG.  I can never find the
logs and for email, I can't find where to set the address??  The WG
interface seems so simple, but it really makes me feel like an idiot at
times.

 

Hope this is good enough damage control for tonight.  I'll be back in
the am to check things and do more investigating.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

Paul

 



From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to all  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.

 

Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  

 

Dennis  

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server).  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change

RE: blacklists

2008-07-29 Thread Paul Everett
It's the Symantec Mail Security for SMTP.  Now what?

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It sounds like either something is misconfigured, your DC is infected
or you don't correctly understand how mail is supposed to flow in your
network.  Get on your DC and run netstat -no and looks for connection to
port 25 on your  firewall. Then look up the PID in task manager to see
what process on the DC is sending the mail.

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Everything is looking good this morning, as far as our email is
concerned and so far still off the blacklists.  In host watch of the
Watchguard System Manager, I am getting numerous (hundreds/minute)
outbound Filtered-SMTP denies from my DC (which is my mail gateway).
I thought mail was just going thru there one-way (incoming).

Mail in -WG Firewall - DC (Symantec Mail Security for SMTP) -
Exchange Server - WG Firewall - Mail out.

Could there just be a misconfiguration on my DC?

 

Paul

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

They are proxy's.  I have two defined.  One called SMTP and it has the
incoming set From: any, To: WG ip - DC (mail gateway).  The outgoing
tab is disabled.

The other proxy is called Filtered-SMTP.  It's Incoming is Disabled and
the Outgoing is set From: Any, To: Any.  I change this From: Exchange
ip, To: Any.

I've never been able to figure logging on the WG.  I can never find the
logs and for email, I can't find where to set the address??  The WG
interface seems so simple, but it really makes me feel like an idiot at
times.

 

Hope this is good enough damage control for tonight.  I'll be back in
the am to check things and do more investigating.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

Paul

 



From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to all  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.

 

Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  

 

Dennis  

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server).  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I

RE: blacklists

2008-07-29 Thread Tim Evans
And those are connections from the DC to the firewall (and not the
reverse)? Something is misconfigured or you misunderstand how mail is
supposed to flow. Is all the mail flowing outbound that is supposed to
be?

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It's the Symantec Mail Security for SMTP.  Now what?

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It sounds like either something is misconfigured, your DC is infected
or you don't correctly understand how mail is supposed to flow in your
network.  Get on your DC and run netstat -no and looks for connection to
port 25 on your  firewall. Then look up the PID in task manager to see
what process on the DC is sending the mail.

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Everything is looking good this morning, as far as our email is
concerned and so far still off the blacklists.  In host watch of the
Watchguard System Manager, I am getting numerous (hundreds/minute)
outbound Filtered-SMTP denies from my DC (which is my mail gateway).
I thought mail was just going thru there one-way (incoming).

Mail in -WG Firewall - DC (Symantec Mail Security for SMTP) -
Exchange Server - WG Firewall - Mail out.

Could there just be a misconfiguration on my DC?

 

Paul

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

They are proxy's.  I have two defined.  One called SMTP and it has the
incoming set From: any, To: WG ip - DC (mail gateway).  The outgoing
tab is disabled.

The other proxy is called Filtered-SMTP.  It's Incoming is Disabled and
the Outgoing is set From: Any, To: Any.  I change this From: Exchange
ip, To: Any.

I've never been able to figure logging on the WG.  I can never find the
logs and for email, I can't find where to set the address??  The WG
interface seems so simple, but it really makes me feel like an idiot at
times.

 

Hope this is good enough damage control for tonight.  I'll be back in
the am to check things and do more investigating.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

Paul

 



From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to all  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.

 

Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  

 

Dennis  

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server).  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have

RE: blacklists

2008-07-29 Thread Paul Everett
Yes, all the mail seems to be flowing out just fine.  I'm getting rely
denied ndr's for a few domains and I seem to be listed with Barracuda
still, but no other issues I'm aware of.

I'm showing connections using port 25 on both local address and
foreign address.  The entries which are on local address most of the
state values are Time-wait with a pid of 0.  The occasional pid of
smssmtp.

All the foreign addresses showing pid of smssmtp.

 

I must not understand how mail is supposed to flow.  I assumed that the
mail flowed into and out of the Mail Gateway (my DC), and maybe it did
(and still trying), but my Exchange Server seems to be sending it fine
since that is the only ip allowed out in my firewall (for smtp traffic).

When I installed Ninja on my Exchange Box I uninstalled Symantec for
Exchange (or whatever it's called).  My plan was to also take Symantec
Mail Security for SMTP off the DC, but decide that it was an extra layer
of Security that wasn't hurting anything.  I can't remember if we did
anything to change the flow of outgoing email at that time or not.

 

Paul



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

And those are connections from the DC to the firewall (and not the
reverse)? Something is misconfigured or you misunderstand how mail is
supposed to flow. Is all the mail flowing outbound that is supposed to
be?

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It's the Symantec Mail Security for SMTP.  Now what?

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It sounds like either something is misconfigured, your DC is infected
or you don't correctly understand how mail is supposed to flow in your
network.  Get on your DC and run netstat -no and looks for connection to
port 25 on your  firewall. Then look up the PID in task manager to see
what process on the DC is sending the mail.

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Everything is looking good this morning, as far as our email is
concerned and so far still off the blacklists.  In host watch of the
Watchguard System Manager, I am getting numerous (hundreds/minute)
outbound Filtered-SMTP denies from my DC (which is my mail gateway).
I thought mail was just going thru there one-way (incoming).

Mail in -WG Firewall - DC (Symantec Mail Security for SMTP) -
Exchange Server - WG Firewall - Mail out.

Could there just be a misconfiguration on my DC?

 

Paul

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

They are proxy's.  I have two defined.  One called SMTP and it has the
incoming set From: any, To: WG ip - DC (mail gateway).  The outgoing
tab is disabled.

The other proxy is called Filtered-SMTP.  It's Incoming is Disabled and
the Outgoing is set From: Any, To: Any.  I change this From: Exchange
ip, To: Any.

I've never been able to figure logging on the WG.  I can never find the
logs and for email, I can't find where to set the address??  The WG
interface seems so simple, but it really makes me feel like an idiot at
times.

 

Hope this is good enough damage control for tonight.  I'll be back in
the am to check things and do more investigating.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

Paul

 



From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to all  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.

 

Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  

 

Dennis  

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway

RE: blacklists

2008-07-29 Thread Paul Everett
I'm going to move this over to the Exchange forum.  

Thanks for all the help.

Paul

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 12:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Yes, all the mail seems to be flowing out just fine.  I'm getting rely
denied ndr's for a few domains and I seem to be listed with Barracuda
still, but no other issues I'm aware of.

I'm showing connections using port 25 on both local address and
foreign address.  The entries which are on local address most of the
state values are Time-wait with a pid of 0.  The occasional pid of
smssmtp.

All the foreign addresses showing pid of smssmtp.

 

I must not understand how mail is supposed to flow.  I assumed that the
mail flowed into and out of the Mail Gateway (my DC), and maybe it did
(and still trying), but my Exchange Server seems to be sending it fine
since that is the only ip allowed out in my firewall (for smtp traffic).

When I installed Ninja on my Exchange Box I uninstalled Symantec for
Exchange (or whatever it's called).  My plan was to also take Symantec
Mail Security for SMTP off the DC, but decide that it was an extra layer
of Security that wasn't hurting anything.  I can't remember if we did
anything to change the flow of outgoing email at that time or not.

 

Paul



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 11:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

And those are connections from the DC to the firewall (and not the
reverse)? Something is misconfigured or you misunderstand how mail is
supposed to flow. Is all the mail flowing outbound that is supposed to
be?

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 8:05 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It's the Symantec Mail Security for SMTP.  Now what?

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

It sounds like either something is misconfigured, your DC is infected
or you don't correctly understand how mail is supposed to flow in your
network.  Get on your DC and run netstat -no and looks for connection to
port 25 on your  firewall. Then look up the PID in task manager to see
what process on the DC is sending the mail.

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 6:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Everything is looking good this morning, as far as our email is
concerned and so far still off the blacklists.  In host watch of the
Watchguard System Manager, I am getting numerous (hundreds/minute)
outbound Filtered-SMTP denies from my DC (which is my mail gateway).
I thought mail was just going thru there one-way (incoming).

Mail in -WG Firewall - DC (Symantec Mail Security for SMTP) -
Exchange Server - WG Firewall - Mail out.

Could there just be a misconfiguration on my DC?

 

Paul

 



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

They are proxy's.  I have two defined.  One called SMTP and it has the
incoming set From: any, To: WG ip - DC (mail gateway).  The outgoing
tab is disabled.

The other proxy is called Filtered-SMTP.  It's Incoming is Disabled and
the Outgoing is set From: Any, To: Any.  I change this From: Exchange
ip, To: Any.

I've never been able to figure logging on the WG.  I can never find the
logs and for email, I can't find where to set the address??  The WG
interface seems so simple, but it really makes me feel like an idiot at
times.

 

Hope this is good enough damage control for tonight.  I'll be back in
the am to check things and do more investigating.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions.

 

Paul

 



From: Dennis Hoefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to all  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.

 

Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  

 

Dennis  

 



From: Paul

RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Evans
Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/  to learn more.

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is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.   If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message, including attachments.

 

 

 

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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Sam Cayze
Are you allowing mail relaying on your internal network?

 

ESMSMTPDefault SMTPAccessRelay (Any exclusions here at all?)

 

You cannot change the port/25 if you expect to be able to send mail to
other organizations.  You can only change the port if you are passing
emails off to another server, and then that server sends it out.

 

I think it's time to start looking through your SMTP logs on your mail
server.

 

Also, check out http://www.authsmtp.com/

Set your exchange box to send mail through them on a obscure port, and
turn off port 25 on all your firewalls.  I'm not talking zone alarm, I'm
talking about your perimeter hardware firewall.

 

This will get your messages out, and let things calm down to get you off
the blacklists.


Sam

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/  to learn more.

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is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.   If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message, including attachments.

 

 

 

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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Paul Everett
Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server).  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/  to learn more.

Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail message, including any attachments,
is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.   If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message, including attachments.

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Tim Evans
Then forget about the Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail
from your exchange server part. Just set your firewall so that it only
accept SMTP mail from that

server. Sorry, but I can't help you on the watchguard config.

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server).  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/  to learn more.

Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail message, including any attachments,
is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.   If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message, including attachments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Roger Wright
Have you tested for Open Relay?

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

727.572.7076  x388

_

 

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/  to learn more.

Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail message, including any attachments,
is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.   If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message, including attachments.

 

 

 

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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Paul Everett
Yes, with MXToolbox everything check out.

 



From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Have you tested for Open Relay?

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

727.572.7076  x388

_

 

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/  to learn more.

Confidentiality Notice:  This e-mail message, including any attachments,
is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain
confidential and privileged information.  Any unauthorized review, use,
disclosure, or distribution is prohibited.   If you are not the intended
recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all
copies of the original message, including attachments.

 

 

 

 

 

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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Carl Houseman
Infected computers use port 25 like everything else.
 
At the firewall create a port 25 outbound rule that only allows the Exchange
server.
BTW your final firewall rule should be to disallow everything that isn't
specifically allowed, right?!
 
At the Exchange server only allow relaying for localhost.
 
Now any outbound spam has no choice to get out except to use MAPI and the
Exchange server, and if such a thing were happening you could track it.
Assuming of course, that the Exchange server itself is clean.
 
Carl

  _  

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists



We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam or
not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times, but
after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this question
before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to outbound
mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected computers
send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block that port and
change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the mean
time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can catch
any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install it asked
if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button showed that it
should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to be working but I
keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet access to my
computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

 


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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread tgonzalez
Sounds like a client open with SMTP, I just went through that deal
recently Paul, removed the malicious user from the network

 

As for Barracuda Reputation, GOOD LUCK...we are still on that system
even though I cleared our org from the other lists.

 

 

Thomas

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Yes, with MXToolbox everything check out.

 



From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Have you tested for Open Relay?

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

727.572.7076  x388

_

 

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Dennis Hoefer
Open Policy Manager on the Watchguard 700, you will have either a proxy
or filter policy for SMTP.  On the Outgoing tab, set From: to the IP
address of your mail server and To: to all  The default rule is all to
all, which will allow traffic from port 25 to pass from any machine on
your network.  By setting From: to only your mail server IP, you will
block any internal machines that may be attempting to send SMTP traffic
on their own.  You can also set the rule to log denied traffic which
will quickly identify internal machines that are attempting to use port
25.
 
Configuration is a little different on the newer Watchguard boxes, but
should be pretty straight forward on the 700.  If the problem persists,
then you're back to a relay problem or compromised mail server.  
 
Dennis  



From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 4:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists



Set the mail server so that it only accepts mail from your exchange
server They are one and the same.  My DC is actually my Mail Gateway
between the WG and Exchange.

Block port 25 at the firewall for all but authorized systems (mail
server).  Any idea how to do this on a Watchguard 700?

 

Thanks

 

 



From: Tim Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like you may have an infected client on your network that is
sending outbound spam. Block port 25 at the firewall for all but
authorized systems (mail server). Set the mail server so that it only
accepts mail from your exchange server. That should get things cleared
up enough so that you'll stay off the blacklists and give you some time
to hunt for the guilty party.

 

 

...Tim

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
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RE: blacklists

2008-07-28 Thread Paul Everett
Thanks Thomas.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Sounds like a client open with SMTP, I just went through that deal
recently Paul, removed the malicious user from the network

 

As for Barracuda Reputation, GOOD LUCK...we are still on that system
even though I cleared our org from the other lists.

 

 

Thomas

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Yes, with MXToolbox everything check out.

 



From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 6:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: blacklists

 

Have you tested for Open Relay?

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

727.572.7076  x388

_

 

 

From: Paul Everett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 5:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: blacklists

 

We've been finding ourself on some blacklists since last week and have
basically shut us down.  Specifically Spamhaus and Barracuda's. 

I'm not sure if I have an infected computer on my network sending spam
or not.  I've requested my ip removed from the blacklists several times,
but after a day or two I'm back on.  I've got a window to post this
question before it happens again.  Here's what I have.

One Domain, two locations connected via PTP T1 (Adtrans).  All Internet
access is at one location where I have my Mail Server 2003 (Ninja) and a
Watchguard Firewall.  All clients (about 200) running Symantec AV.

I don't have really the tools or knowledge to run any packet capture
software (or anything else) to determine if I have an owned machine, but
while I am working on that is there any way to close my firewall to
outbound mail traffic while still letting my Exchange out?  Do infected
computers send email thru port 25 like Exchange?  If so, can I block
that port and change the port Exchange uses to send?  If so, how?

This may take me awhile, but I'd like to stay off the blacklists in the
mean time.

 

One thing I've done is installed Zone Alarm on my pc to see if I can
catch any of my local computers scanning my network.  After the install
it asked if I wanted my Outlook to act as a Server.  The info button
showed that it should be ok to do, but I said no.  My email seems to
be working but I keep getting notifications that ZA is blocking internet
access to my computer from my mail server.  This is probably nothing.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

Paul Everett 
IS Dept. 
Lee Mental Health Center 
239-791-1551 

Lee Mental Health Center, Inc. providing services through Ruth Cooper
Center for Behavioral Health Care and VISTA Behavioral Crisis Services.
Visit our website at www.leementalhealth.org
blocked::http://www.leementalhealth.org/  to learn more.

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