RE: Veeam

2011-11-22 Thread Benjamin Zachary 
We use Veeam 5.0 right now and have been pretty happy with it. The restoring
of Exchange with the virtual lab has been a little pain point for us, so we
ended up getting ontrack, and simply mount the edb and pull out what we need
the few times that was required.

 

We run Veeam as a virtual appliance in our vm cluster and output to a
Windows SMB share (we had this as a SAN and found better performance going
over SMB instead of iSCSI). We have de-duplication on the Veeam side set to
optimal, and we have backup to LAN Target.

 

There are ways to set it up to do incremental, reverse incrementals etc . it
took us a few tries to get it right but now we backup about 2TB of data in a
few hours , and then on Sundays the backups merge. We keep 15 backup points,
and so far this has worked well.

 

We also do replication to a backup SATA SAN every 4 hours, and this works
okay as well. It took some tweaking too because the backups would run @ the
same time as replication so we would get skipped vms due to snapshot in
place. There isnt an option to skip replication jobs, for example every
4hours but not from 8pm-12am . so our normal backups could run, but we have
it all timed out nicely now.

 

One last thing, Veeam 5.0 had some issues with Vcenter 5, and ESXi5 when
formatted out to VMFS-5 volumes. I think 6 just came out, or is coming out
which is supposed to address this issue, but we run VC5 and 6 ESXi5 boxes
now on VMFS-3 still and things are working fine. 

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rhw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 5:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Veeam

 

The backup server is a physical box with tons of SATA storage.and VEEAM is
running there. It grabs the images of the dozen or so virtual servers from
the iSCSI SAN and then we backup the backup server to LTO-5 tape for offsite
storage on a weekly basis.  We're hoping for MGMT buy-in to do offsite
replication sometime next year but the data pipe isn't sufficient we're
stuck with tape for now.

 


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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Harry Singh  wrote:

Just purchased VEEAM.

 

Roger - do you have veeam on a physical or virtual machine? are you using
Direct SAN Access with iSCSI or are you using FC?

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

We switched from vRanger to Veeam about 3 months back due to constant issues
with vRanger.  Veeam is working well for us, a bit more intuitive and
faster.  I can't comment regarding how it works with Exchange 2010 since
we're still on Exchange 2003.


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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare
backup software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests by
expanding the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an offsite
copy. 

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Re: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Roger Wright 
The backup server is a physical box with tons of SATA storage.and VEEAM is
running there. It grabs the images of the dozen or so virtual servers from
the iSCSI SAN and then we backup the backup server to LTO-5 tape for
offsite storage on a weekly basis.  We're hoping for MGMT buy-in to do
offsite replication sometime next year but the data pipe isn't sufficient
we're stuck with tape for now.


Roger Wright
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Harry Singh  wrote:

> Just purchased VEEAM.
>
> Roger - do you have veeam on a physical or virtual machine? are you using
> Direct SAN Access with iSCSI or are you using FC?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>
>> We switched from vRanger to Veeam about 3 months back due to constant
>> issues with vRanger.  Veeam is working well for us, a bit more intuitive
>> and faster.  I can't comment regarding how it works with Exchange 2010
>> since we're still on Exchange 2003.
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
>>
>> If the universe is constantly expanding, how come I can't find a parking
>> space?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Joseph Heaton wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare
>>> backup software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests
>>> by expanding the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an
>>> offsite copy.
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RE: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Hutchings 
We used to use that.  I really liked it.  My only issue, and one reason we 
moved from it, was the fact that it wasn't the simplest (speed) to copy the 
backups off the backup appliance to tape so you have a true offline backup.
The product and the company was always great to deal with though.
From: Jeff Frantz [mailto:jfra...@itstechnologies.com]
Sent: 21 November 2011 17:43
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Veeam

You should also check out PHD Virtual Backup (formerly esXpress.)  They just 
released an updated version (5.3) last week which includes data deduplication, 
file-level recovery, and replication.  
http://www.phdvirtual.com/phd-backup-replication
I have no relation to the company but have been using their products for over 
five years and love 'em.
-Jeff
From: Joseph Heaton 
[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]<mailto:[mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Veeam

Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare backup 
software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests by expanding 
the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an offsite copy.

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Re: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Mark Boeck 
veeam is ~ $950 per cpu socket, so a 2 processor vmware server would cost ~
$1900 to cover.




On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Mike Sullivan  wrote:

> Hopefully this is not really a hijack of this thread and will help others
> as well.  We are currently on vRanger and it seems really slow to me. how
> does the price of Veeam compare to vRanger?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:
>
>> We switched from vRanger to Veeam about 3 months back due to constant
>> issues with vRanger.  Veeam is working well for us, a bit more intuitive
>> and faster.  I can't comment regarding how it works with Exchange 2010
>> since we're still on Exchange 2003.
>>
>>
>> Roger Wright
>> ___
>>
>> If the universe is constantly expanding, how come I can't find a parking
>> space?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Joseph Heaton wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare
>>> backup software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests
>>> by expanding the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an
>>> offsite copy.
>>>
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Re: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Mike Sullivan 
Hopefully this is not really a hijack of this thread and will help others
as well.  We are currently on vRanger and it seems really slow to me. how
does the price of Veeam compare to vRanger?


On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> We switched from vRanger to Veeam about 3 months back due to constant
> issues with vRanger.  Veeam is working well for us, a bit more intuitive
> and faster.  I can't comment regarding how it works with Exchange 2010
> since we're still on Exchange 2003.
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> If the universe is constantly expanding, how come I can't find a parking
> space?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Joseph Heaton wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare
>> backup software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests
>> by expanding the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an
>> offsite copy.
>>
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Re: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Harry Singh 
Just purchased VEEAM.

Roger - do you have veeam on a physical or virtual machine? are you using
Direct SAN Access with iSCSI or are you using FC?



On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Roger Wright  wrote:

> We switched from vRanger to Veeam about 3 months back due to constant
> issues with vRanger.  Veeam is working well for us, a bit more intuitive
> and faster.  I can't comment regarding how it works with Exchange 2010
> since we're still on Exchange 2003.
>
>
> Roger Wright
> ___
>
> If the universe is constantly expanding, how come I can't find a parking
> space?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Joseph Heaton wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare
>> backup software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests
>> by expanding the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an
>> offsite copy.
>>
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Re: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Roger Wright 
We switched from vRanger to Veeam about 3 months back due to constant
issues with vRanger.  Veeam is working well for us, a bit more intuitive
and faster.  I can't comment regarding how it works with Exchange 2010
since we're still on Exchange 2003.


Roger Wright
___

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space?





On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Joseph Heaton  wrote:

> Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare
> backup software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests
> by expanding the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an
> offsite copy.
>
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RE: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Jeff Frantz 
You should also check out PHD Virtual Backup (formerly esXpress.)  They just 
released an updated version (5.3) last week which includes data deduplication, 
file-level recovery, and replication.  
http://www.phdvirtual.com/phd-backup-replication
I have no relation to the company but have been using their products for over 
five years and love 'em.
-Jeff
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Veeam

Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare backup 
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RE: Veeam

2011-11-21 Thread Paul Gordon 
The only experience I have to report on this product, is that - at present -
it really does not work well with Exchange 2010 DAGs - without fail
backing up a DAG node causes all active databases on the node to fail over
to an alternate server... This is fairly well documented & discussed in the
blogosphere...

Paul G.

 

From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov] 
Sent: 21 November 2011 16:10
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Veeam

 

Anyone have any experience with this product?  Supposed to be a VMWare
backup software, which is able to do incrementals on the actual VM guests by
expanding the .vmdk, finding the changes, and backing those up to an offsite
copy. 

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