RE: pinging servers

2010-08-18 Thread Brad DeHart
From the Advanced tab of Network Connections, choose Advanced Settings and 
compare the order in the Connections pane.  I'm betting they are swapped on 
your servers.


Brad DeHart
Senior Network Systems Administrator
Kern Health Systems

-Original Message-
From: DAVID SMITH [mailto:davidsm...@dritz.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 11:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: pinging servers

I have 2 servers that are identical that has 2 network ports.  Both of the 
servers have their local connection plugged into port 1 and their back network 
plugged into port 2.  When you ping the server name on these servers, one 
server replies back with the local area connection and the other replies back 
with the back network.  Why is this?
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Re: pinging servers

2010-08-18 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Ziots, Edward  wrote:
> Local Network is the Public facing network taking the traffic
> from the users, and the Back network ( is setup for backups
> and other system administration to happen on).

  My assumption was something along those lines, but we all know about
assumptions.  Better to get the idea explicitly.

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RE: pinging servers

2010-08-18 Thread Ziots, Edward
Local Network is the Public facing network taking the traffic from the users, 
and the Back network ( is setup for backups and other system administration to 
happen on). 

I have done this type of stuff in the past for those that want to have certain 
traffic go over 1 NIC ( or set of NIC's) and access for general users over 
another NIC. 

Usually don't register the Private ( Back Network NIC's IP) in DNS or WINS 
accordingly. We would put static entries in DNS accordingly in a special zone 
which the backup software was to look at for resolution accordingly. That and 
tight ACL's that only the backup server IP could even talk to that port, and 
the appropriate firewall rules set on the server to allow the backup software 
and only that to run. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
CISSP, Network +, Security +
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
Cell:401-639-3505


-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: pinging servers

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, DAVID SMITH  wrote:
> I have 2 servers that are identical that has 2 network ports.

  As ASB points out, they're obviously not identical, or you'd be
getting identical results.

>  Both of the servers have their local connection plugged
> into port 1 and their back network plugged into port 2.

  What do you mean by "local connection" and "back network"?

> When you ping the server name on these servers, one
> server replies back with the local area connection and
> the other replies back with the back network.

  You can't really ping a name, only an IP address.  If you give ping
a name, it looks up an IP address.  The first thing to do is to see
which IP address ping is lookup up.  That will tell you if the
difference is in name resolution or some network layer thing.

  A comment on name resolution that may be applicable: In general, if
a name has multiple IP addresses associated with it, you shouldn't
depend on those IP addresses being given in any particular order.

-- Ben

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Re: pinging servers

2010-08-18 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, DAVID SMITH  wrote:
> I have 2 servers that are identical that has 2 network ports.

  As ASB points out, they're obviously not identical, or you'd be
getting identical results.

>  Both of the servers have their local connection plugged
> into port 1 and their back network plugged into port 2.

  What do you mean by "local connection" and "back network"?

> When you ping the server name on these servers, one
> server replies back with the local area connection and
> the other replies back with the back network.

  You can't really ping a name, only an IP address.  If you give ping
a name, it looks up an IP address.  The first thing to do is to see
which IP address ping is lookup up.  That will tell you if the
difference is in name resolution or some network layer thing.

  A comment on name resolution that may be applicable: In general, if
a name has multiple IP addresses associated with it, you shouldn't
depend on those IP addresses being given in any particular order.

-- Ben

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RE: pinging servers

2010-08-18 Thread Erik Goldoff
Bet you'll find different default gateways, try a ROUTE PRINT and see what you 
can see ...
Or worse, maybe you have a default gateway set on BOTH adapters 


Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security 

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-Original Message-
From: DAVID SMITH [mailto:davidsm...@dritz.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:11 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: pinging servers

I have 2 servers that are identical that has 2 network ports.  Both of the 
servers have their local connection plugged into port 1 and their back network 
plugged into port 2.  When you ping the server name on these servers, one 
server replies back with the local area connection and the other replies back 
with the back network.  Why is this?
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Re: pinging servers

2010-08-18 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I'l bet that they're not really as identical as you think.

Where are you pinging from?

Are both addresses in AD/DNS?   What are the bindings for both NICs on both
servers?



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On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:11 PM, DAVID SMITH  wrote:

> I have 2 servers that are identical that has 2 network ports.  Both of the
> servers have their local connection plugged into port 1 and their back
> network plugged into port 2.  When you ping the server name on these
> servers, one server replies back with the local area connection and the
> other replies back with the back network.  Why is this?
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

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