Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-31 Thread Jeremy Young

I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS?

Martin Blackstone wrote:

Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM?
Then you could do other things on it as well.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

Great responses guys.  A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but 
hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies.


On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: 
We had the money in the budget.  Also, I know, at some point, that we'll 
upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own 
Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to 
future proof those boxes.  Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need 
more that 640K and we know how that logic played out  : )


Thanks again everyone!!

- Jer

Ken Schaefer wrote:
  

Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see


the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.
  

From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that).

No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user


mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD
.dit/database.
  

Cheers
Ken


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in
early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put
16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the
system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I
can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps
being 64bit.

Thanks!

- Jer

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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-31 Thread Michael B. Smith
There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs, especially
in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is
completely ok.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS?

Martin Blackstone wrote:
 Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM?
 Then you could do other things on it as well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Great responses guys.  A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but 
 hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies.

 On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: 
 We had the money in the budget.  Also, I know, at some point, that we'll 
 upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own 
 Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to 
 future proof those boxes.  Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need 
 more that 640K and we know how that logic played out  : )

 Thanks again everyone!!

 - Jer

 Ken Schaefer wrote:
   
 Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see
 
 the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.
   
 From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that).

 No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user
 
 mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD
 .dit/database.
   
 Cheers
 Ken


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in
 early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put
 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the
 system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

 If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
 there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I
 can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
 These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps
 being 64bit.

 Thanks!

 - Jer

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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-31 Thread Andy Shook
You got a link to define the lines?

TIA, 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook 

 -Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs,
especially
in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is
completely ok.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS?

Martin Blackstone wrote:
 Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM?
 Then you could do other things on it as well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Great responses guys.  A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but

 hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies.

 On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A:

 We had the money in the budget.  Also, I know, at some point, that
we'll 
 upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own 
 Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to 
 future proof those boxes.  Also, Bill Gates once said no one would
need 
 more that 640K and we know how that logic played out  : )

 Thanks again everyone!!

 - Jer

 Ken Schaefer wrote:
   
 Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to
see
 
 the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.
   
 From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about
that).

 No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per
user
 
 mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger
AD
 .dit/database.
   
 Cheers
 Ken


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade
in
 early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I
put
 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will
the
 system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

 If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
 there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK
and I
 can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
 These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external
apps
 being 64bit.

 Thanks!

 - Jer

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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-31 Thread Michael B. Smith
Sure. Two of them I refer to:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888794

and

https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=64db845d-f7a3-4209
-8ed2-e261a117fc6bdisplaylang=en

Regards,

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MCSE/Exchange MVP
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-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

You got a link to define the lines?

TIA, 

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook 

 -Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs,
especially
in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is
completely ok.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS?

Martin Blackstone wrote:
 Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM?
 Then you could do other things on it as well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Great responses guys.  A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but

 hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies.

 On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A:

 We had the money in the budget.  Also, I know, at some point, that
we'll 
 upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own 
 Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to 
 future proof those boxes.  Also, Bill Gates once said no one would
need 
 more that 640K and we know how that logic played out  : )

 Thanks again everyone!!

 - Jer

 Ken Schaefer wrote:
   
 Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to
see
 
 the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.
   
 From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about
that).

 No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per
user
 
 mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger
AD
 .dit/database.
   
 Cheers
 Ken


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade
in
 early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I
put
 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will
the
 system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

 If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
 there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK
and I
 can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
 These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external
apps
 being 64bit.

 Thanks!

 - Jer

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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-31 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
As of the Server 2008 launch, they (Microsoft) have really started pushing DCs 
on VMs with the almost there status of Hyper-V (which was covered in great 
detail at the launch events).
Tim

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

You got a link to define the lines?

TIA,

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook

 -Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 11:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

There are certain specific issues around using virtualized DCs,
especially
in a recovery scenario. As long as you color within the lines, it is
completely ok.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 10:26 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

I thought virtualized DCs was frowned upon by MS?

Martin Blackstone wrote:
 Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM?
 Then you could do other things on it as well.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Great responses guys.  A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but

 hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies.

 On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A:

 We had the money in the budget.  Also, I know, at some point, that
we'll
 upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own
 Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to
 future proof those boxes.  Also, Bill Gates once said no one would
need
 more that 640K and we know how that logic played out  : )

 Thanks again everyone!!

 - Jer

 Ken Schaefer wrote:

 Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to
see

 the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.

 From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about
that).

 No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per
user

 mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger
AD
 .dit/database.

 Cheers
 Ken


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade
in
 early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I
put
 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will
the
 system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

 If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
 there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK
and I
 can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
 These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external
apps
 being 64bit.

 Thanks!

 - Jer

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Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-31 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As of the Server 2008 launch, they (Microsoft) have really started pushing 
 DCs on
 VMs with the almost there status of Hyper-V ...

  Classic.  When everybody else could do it, it wasn't recommended.
Now that Microsoft's caught up, it'll become a best practice.  rolls
eyes  I love vendor support games.  I just found out that Verizon is
apparently happy to sell us BlackBerry devices which are actually
end-of-life'ed by RIM  gag.

-- Ben

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Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-29 Thread Jeremy Young
Great responses guys.  A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but 
hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies.


On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: 
We had the money in the budget.  Also, I know, at some point, that we'll 
upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own 
Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to 
future proof those boxes.  Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need 
more that 640K and we know how that logic played out  : )


Thanks again everyone!!

- Jer

Ken Schaefer wrote:

Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the 
extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.

From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that).

No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode 
process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD 
.dit/database.

Cheers
Ken


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in
early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put
16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the
system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I
can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps
being 64bit.

Thanks!

- Jer

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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-29 Thread Martin Blackstone
Why don't you put VMWare ESX on this thing and run the DC in a VM?
Then you could do other things on it as well.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 11:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

Great responses guys.  A Dell engineer confirmed that we'd be fine but 
hearing it from this group gives me the warm fuzzies.

On the question of why buy 16GB for a box that does nothing but AD? A: 
We had the money in the budget.  Also, I know, at some point, that we'll 
upgrade to 2008 during the five year lifespan (but currently own 
Server2003 Std) of this box so I figured it couldn't hurt to try to 
future proof those boxes.  Also, Bill Gates once said no one would need 
more that 640K and we know how that logic played out  : )

Thanks again everyone!!

- Jer

Ken Schaefer wrote:
 Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see
the extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.

 From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that).

 No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user
mode process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD
.dit/database.

 Cheers
 Ken


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

 Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in
 early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put
 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the
 system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

 If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
 there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I
 can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
 These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps
 being 64bit.

 Thanks!

 - Jer

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Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-28 Thread Jeremy Young
Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 
32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in 
early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put 
16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the 
system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?


If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is 
there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I 
can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.  
These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps 
being 64bit.


Thanks!

- Jer

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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-28 Thread Christopher J. Bosak
32 bit will simply ignore the extra ram. There's no harm in it being there,
but it won't really help.

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:22 hrs
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 
32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in 
early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put 
16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the 
system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is 
there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I 
can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.  
These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps 
being 64bit.

Thanks!

- Jer

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Re: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-28 Thread Phil Brutsche
32-bit Server 2003 Std will ignore memory  4GB.

A 64-bit Server 2003 DC will require no AD changes. x64 Server 2003 Std
will see and use up to 32GB.

Although I am wondering why you need 16GB RAM in a DC that won't be
doing anything else... is your directory tree really that large?

Jeremy Young wrote:
 Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std 
 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in 
 early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put 
 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the 
 system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?
 
 If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is 
 there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I 
 can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.  
 These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps 
 being 64bit.

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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-28 Thread Mike Gill
You can add the memory, it's just not going to see/use more than about
3.5GB. If you're going to make a change to 2008, then you will need to get
the 32bit enterprise version or 64bit version to see/use more than 4GB of
mem. My feeling would be to skip the step of moving to another interim 2003
version.

-- 
Mike Gill


 -Original Message-
 From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:22 AM
 To: NT System Admin Issues
 Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB
 
 Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
 32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade
 in
 early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put
 16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will
 the
 system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?
 
 If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
 there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and
 I
 can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
 These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps
 being 64bit.
 
 Thanks!
 
 - Jer
 
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RE: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem 4GB

2008-03-28 Thread Ken Schaefer
Either use Windows Server 2003 x86 Enterprise Edition (if you want to see the 
extra RAM) or the Windows Server 2003 x64 Standard Edition.

From memory GPMC doesn't run on x64 (But I could be mistaken about that).

No issue with AD itself on x64 - runs fine. Actually you get 4GB per user mode 
process (rather than 2GB out of 4GB), so you can sustain a larger AD 
.dit/database.

Cheers
Ken


-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 29 March 2008 3:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server 2003 32bit vs 64bit AD and mem  4GB

Dumb question but I'm replacing my existing AD boxes (server2003 Std
32bit) and want to be prepared for Server2008 (probably an AD upgrade in
early 2009).  In doing so I want to add extra RAM to the box.  If I put
16GB RAM into the new box and install Server2003 Std 32bit what will the
system do?  Simply ignore the extra RAM?  Any harm in doing this?

If it's better to use Server2003 Std 64bit to properly see the RAM is
there anything that changes in AD?  My gut tells me 99% this is OK and I
can't find anything online stating otherwise but I want to be sure.
These boxes only do AD so I don't have to worry about any external apps
being 64bit.

Thanks!

- Jer

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