Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread John Hornbuckle
Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I'm kind 
of stumped and need some guidance.

DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It's also a DC and DNS server. It shows no 
errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of addresses left 
in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 ms and no timeouts, 
and it can ping client machines with the same results. DNS is working fine. DC 
functions are working fine.

DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although apparently 
not all, from what I can tell) can't get leases. If you run ipconfig /renew 
from a command prompt, they report that they can't contact the DHCP server. If 
you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So network connectivity 
seems okay-this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.

I'm guessing that I'm going to need a packet sniffer to further troubleshoot. I 
have to confess, though, that I've never in my life used one. I've just never 
needed to.

So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a client 
machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be looking for?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us





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Re: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
How large is the environment? Multiple subnets? Any commonalities between 
the clients that can't get DHCP addresses (same subnet, same OS patch 
level, etc...)? Any firewalls in-between the clients and the DHCP server? 
Firewalls turned on, on the client side? Cisco helper address issue? 

We use Wireshark here, and I think you'll find it well suited to what you 
are looking for,and it's free:

http://www.wireshark.org/

I would put it on the DHCP server and a client and examine both. You need 
to see if the packets are getting to the DHCP server from the client.



Chris Bodnar, MCSE
Systems Engineer
Distributed Systems Service Delivery - Intel Services
Guardian Life Insurance Company of America
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Phone: 610-807-6459
Fax: 610-807-6003



From:   John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Date:   02/17/2010 09:49 AM
Subject:Troubleshooting DHCP



Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I’m 
kind of stumped and need some guidance.
 
DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It’s also a DC and DNS server. It 
shows no errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of 
addresses left in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 
ms and no timeouts, and it can ping client machines with the same results. 
DNS is working fine. DC functions are working fine.
 
DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although 
apparently not all, from what I can tell) can’t get leases. If you run 
ipconfig /renew from a command prompt, they report that they can’t contact 
the DHCP server. If you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So 
network connectivity seems okay—this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.
 
I’m guessing that I’m going to need a packet sniffer to further 
troubleshoot. I have to confess, though, that I’ve never in my life used 
one. I’ve just never needed to.
 
So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a 
client machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be 
looking for?
 
 
 
John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
 


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RE: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Wireshark is good and free.

 

As is the NetMon 3.0 from MS.

 

Sniff a good DHCP lease conversation, and then a failed one and compare
the two.

 

-sc

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting DHCP

 

Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I'm
kind of stumped and need some guidance.

 

DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It's also a DC and DNS server. It
shows no errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty
of addresses left in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at
1 ms and no timeouts, and it can ping client machines with the same
results. DNS is working fine. DC functions are working fine.

 

DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although
apparently not all, from what I can tell) can't get leases. If you run
ipconfig /renew from a command prompt, they report that they can't
contact the DHCP server. If you manually assign an IP address, all works
fine. So network connectivity seems okay-this seems to be strictly a
DHCP issue.

 

I'm guessing that I'm going to need a packet sniffer to further
troubleshoot. I have to confess, though, that I've never in my life used
one. I've just never needed to.

 

So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a
client machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be
looking for?

 

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

 
 
 
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RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread John Hornbuckle
Well, we seem to have fixed the problem. I reset one of our switches, and 
clients started picking up IP addresses after that. This makes absolutely no 
sense to me. We don't have multiple subnets, DHCP relay, or anything complex. 
This is about as plain vanilla a design as they make.

And there were no other problems being exhibited. Normally if a switch was 
acting crazy, I'd expect lots of symptoms. But everything other than DHCP was 
working fine.

Still, I'm going to check out Wireshark right now. I want to be prepared in the 
future.



John



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting DHCP

Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I'm kind 
of stumped and need some guidance.

DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It's also a DC and DNS server. It shows no 
errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of addresses left 
in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 ms and no timeouts, 
and it can ping client machines with the same results. DNS is working fine. DC 
functions are working fine.

DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although apparently 
not all, from what I can tell) can't get leases. If you run ipconfig /renew 
from a command prompt, they report that they can't contact the DHCP server. If 
you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So network connectivity 
seems okay-this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.

I'm guessing that I'm going to need a packet sniffer to further troubleshoot. I 
have to confess, though, that I've never in my life used one. I've just never 
needed to.

So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a client 
machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be looking for?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us











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RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
switch could have been blocking broadcast ( DHCP request from client )
across bridges but allowing directed traffic.  Not completely uncommon even
though it's not an every day thing.  Was one of my complaints on the older
3Com switches years ago, needed to 'reboot' them after a month or so to keep
them from acting intermittently flaky
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '


 

  _  

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP



Well, we seem to have fixed the problem. I reset one of our switches, and
clients started picking up IP addresses after that. This makes absolutely no
sense to me. We don't have multiple subnets, DHCP relay, or anything
complex. This is about as plain vanilla a design as they make.

 

And there were no other problems being exhibited. Normally if a switch was
acting crazy, I'd expect lots of symptoms. But everything other than DHCP
was working fine.

 

Still, I'm going to check out Wireshark right now. I want to be prepared in
the future.

 

 

 

John

 

 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting DHCP

 

Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I'm
kind of stumped and need some guidance.

 

DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It's also a DC and DNS server. It shows
no errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of
addresses left in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 ms
and no timeouts, and it can ping client machines with the same results. DNS
is working fine. DC functions are working fine.

 

DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although
apparently not all, from what I can tell) can't get leases. If you run
ipconfig /renew from a command prompt, they report that they can't contact
the DHCP server. If you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So
network connectivity seems okay-this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.

 

I'm guessing that I'm going to need a packet sniffer to further
troubleshoot. I have to confess, though, that I've never in my life used
one. I've just never needed to.

 

So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a
client machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be
looking for?

 

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

 
 
 
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to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to
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RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread John Hornbuckle
If it happens again, this switch is headed for the dumpster...



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

switch could have been blocking broadcast ( DHCP request from client ) across 
bridges but allowing directed traffic.  Not completely uncommon even though 
it's not an every day thing.  Was one of my complaints on the older 3Com 
switches years ago, needed to 'reboot' them after a month or so to keep them 
from acting intermittently flaky

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP
Well, we seem to have fixed the problem. I reset one of our switches, and 
clients started picking up IP addresses after that. This makes absolutely no 
sense to me. We don't have multiple subnets, DHCP relay, or anything complex. 
This is about as plain vanilla a design as they make.

And there were no other problems being exhibited. Normally if a switch was 
acting crazy, I'd expect lots of symptoms. But everything other than DHCP was 
working fine.

Still, I'm going to check out Wireshark right now. I want to be prepared in the 
future.



John



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting DHCP

Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I'm kind 
of stumped and need some guidance.

DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It's also a DC and DNS server. It shows no 
errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of addresses left 
in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 ms and no timeouts, 
and it can ping client machines with the same results. DNS is working fine. DC 
functions are working fine.

DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although apparently 
not all, from what I can tell) can't get leases. If you run ipconfig /renew 
from a command prompt, they report that they can't contact the DHCP server. If 
you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So network connectivity 
seems okay-this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.

I'm guessing that I'm going to need a packet sniffer to further troubleshoot. I 
have to confess, though, that I've never in my life used one. I've just never 
needed to.

So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a client 
machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be looking for?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us











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RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Erik Goldoff
just out of curiousity, what kind of switch is it ?
 

Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '


 

  _  

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP



If it happens again, this switch is headed for the dumpster.

 

 


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RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Joseph Heaton
What kind of switch?  If it's an HP, just get it replaced.  Lifetime warranties 
are a beautiful thing...

 John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us 2/17/2010 7:36 AM 
If it happens again, this switch is headed for the dumpster...



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

switch could have been blocking broadcast ( DHCP request from client ) across 
bridges but allowing directed traffic.  Not completely uncommon even though 
it's not an every day thing.  Was one of my complaints on the older 3Com 
switches years ago, needed to 'reboot' them after a month or so to keep them 
from acting intermittently flaky

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP
Well, we seem to have fixed the problem. I reset one of our switches, and 
clients started picking up IP addresses after that. This makes absolutely no 
sense to me. We don't have multiple subnets, DHCP relay, or anything complex. 
This is about as plain vanilla a design as they make.

And there were no other problems being exhibited. Normally if a switch was 
acting crazy, I'd expect lots of symptoms. But everything other than DHCP was 
working fine.

Still, I'm going to check out Wireshark right now. I want to be prepared in the 
future.



John



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting DHCP

Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I'm kind 
of stumped and need some guidance.

DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It's also a DC and DNS server. It shows no 
errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of addresses left 
in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 ms and no timeouts, 
and it can ping client machines with the same results. DNS is working fine. DC 
functions are working fine.

DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although apparently 
not all, from what I can tell) can't get leases. If you run ipconfig /renew 
from a command prompt, they report that they can't contact the DHCP server. If 
you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So network connectivity 
seems okay-this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.

I'm guessing that I'm going to need a packet sniffer to further troubleshoot. I 
have to confess, though, that I've never in my life used one. I've just never 
needed to.

So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a client 
machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be looking for?



John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us 











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RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread John Hornbuckle
Amer.com. Just a step or two down from Cisco.

;-)



John



From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

just out of curiousity, what kind of switch is it ?

Erik Goldoff

IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP
If it happens again, this switch is headed for the dumpster...









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RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Phillip Partipilo
Same thing happened to me with an couple HP 4000M switch many years ago -
random ports would just stop taking in broadcasts after a few months of
uptime.  A firmware update eventually solved that.

 

 

Phillip Partipilo

Parametric Solutions Inc.

Jupiter, Florida

(561) 747-6107

 

 

From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

 

switch could have been blocking broadcast ( DHCP request from client )
across bridges but allowing directed traffic.  Not completely uncommon even
though it's not an every day thing.  Was one of my complaints on the older
3Com switches years ago, needed to 'reboot' them after a month or so to keep
them from acting intermittently flaky

 


Erik Goldoff


IT  Consultant

Systems, Networks,  Security 

'  Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! '

 

 

  _  

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RESOLVED: Troubleshooting DHCP

Well, we seem to have fixed the problem. I reset one of our switches, and
clients started picking up IP addresses after that. This makes absolutely no
sense to me. We don't have multiple subnets, DHCP relay, or anything
complex. This is about as plain vanilla a design as they make.

 

And there were no other problems being exhibited. Normally if a switch was
acting crazy, I'd expect lots of symptoms. But everything other than DHCP
was working fine.

 

Still, I'm going to check out Wireshark right now. I want to be prepared in
the future.

 

 

 

John

 

 

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Troubleshooting DHCP

 

Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I'm
kind of stumped and need some guidance.

 

DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It's also a DC and DNS server. It shows
no errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of
addresses left in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 ms
and no timeouts, and it can ping client machines with the same results. DNS
is working fine. DC functions are working fine.

 

DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although
apparently not all, from what I can tell) can't get leases. If you run
ipconfig /renew from a command prompt, they report that they can't contact
the DHCP server. If you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So
network connectivity seems okay-this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.

 

I'm guessing that I'm going to need a packet sniffer to further
troubleshoot. I have to confess, though, that I've never in my life used
one. I've just never needed to.

 

So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a
client machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be
looking for?

 

 

 

John Hornbuckle

MIS Department

Taylor County School District

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

 

 

 

 
 
 
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Re: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Kurt Buff
If you are sniffing on the client or at the switch, Wireshark.

If you are sniffing on the server, either Wireshark or the Network
Monitoring Tools that come with the OS.

However, if you can get one of these machines to get an IP address,
and then do an 'ipconfig /all' you'll see what it thinks is the DHCP
server.

Kurt

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:46, John Hornbuckle
john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
 Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I’m
 kind of stumped and need some guidance.



 DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It’s also a DC and DNS server. It shows
 no errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of
 addresses left in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1 ms
 and no timeouts, and it can ping client machines with the same results. DNS
 is working fine. DC functions are working fine.



 DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although
 apparently not all, from what I can tell) can’t get leases. If you run
 ipconfig /renew from a command prompt, they report that they can’t contact
 the DHCP server. If you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So
 network connectivity seems okay—this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.



 I’m guessing that I’m going to need a packet sniffer to further
 troubleshoot. I have to confess, though, that I’ve never in my life used
 one. I’ve just never needed to.



 So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a
 client machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be
 looking for?







 John Hornbuckle

 MIS Department

 Taylor County School District

 www.taylor.k12.fl.us









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 to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
 public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject to
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Re: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Jon Harris
John are you using IPSec in the network?  There was a discussion within the
last month where there was a bug of sorts with using IPSec and 2008 DHCP the
fix looked easy but if
you are not using IPSec then it is not going to help much.  I personally
never saw an issue with a mix of XP and Vista clients but I had a flat IP
space.

Jon

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you are sniffing on the client or at the switch, Wireshark.

 If you are sniffing on the server, either Wireshark or the Network
 Monitoring Tools that come with the OS.

 However, if you can get one of these machines to get an IP address,
 and then do an 'ipconfig /all' you'll see what it thinks is the DHCP
 server.

 Kurt

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:46, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
  Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I’m
  kind of stumped and need some guidance.
 
 
 
  DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It’s also a DC and DNS server. It
 shows
  no errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of
  addresses left in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1
 ms
  and no timeouts, and it can ping client machines with the same results.
 DNS
  is working fine. DC functions are working fine.
 
 
 
  DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although
  apparently not all, from what I can tell) can’t get leases. If you run
  ipconfig /renew from a command prompt, they report that they can’t
 contact
  the DHCP server. If you manually assign an IP address, all works fine. So
  network connectivity seems okay—this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.
 
 
 
  I’m guessing that I’m going to need a packet sniffer to further
  troubleshoot. I have to confess, though, that I’ve never in my life used
  one. I’ve just never needed to.
 
 
 
  So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a
  client machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be
  looking for?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
 
  MIS Department
 
  Taylor County School District
 
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written
 communications
  to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
  public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject
 to
  public disclosure.
 

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~



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~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~

Re: Troubleshooting DHCP

2010-02-17 Thread Jon Harris
Sorry I just saw you fixed the issue.

Jon

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote:

  John are you using IPSec in the network?  There was a discussion within
 the last month where there was a bug of sorts with using IPSec and 2008 DHCP
 the fix looked easy but if
 you are not using IPSec then it is not going to help much.  I personally
 never saw an issue with a mix of XP and Vista clients but I had a flat IP
 space.

 Jon

  On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you are sniffing on the client or at the switch, Wireshark.

 If you are sniffing on the server, either Wireshark or the Network
 Monitoring Tools that come with the OS.

 However, if you can get one of these machines to get an IP address,
 and then do an 'ipconfig /all' you'll see what it thinks is the DHCP
 server.

 Kurt

 On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:46, John Hornbuckle
 john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote:
  Yesterday I started having some DHCP weirdness that has grown today. I’m
  kind of stumped and need some guidance.
 
 
 
  DHCP server is Windows Server 2008. It’s also a DC and DNS server. It
 shows
  no errors relating to DHCP in Event Viewer, and there are plenty of
  addresses left in the scope. It can be pinged from client machines at 1
 ms
  and no timeouts, and it can ping client machines with the same results.
 DNS
  is working fine. DC functions are working fine.
 
 
 
  DHCP, unfortunately, appears spotty. A number of clients (although
  apparently not all, from what I can tell) can’t get leases. If you run
  ipconfig /renew from a command prompt, they report that they can’t
 contact
  the DHCP server. If you manually assign an IP address, all works fine.
 So
  network connectivity seems okay—this seems to be strictly a DHCP issue.
 
 
 
  I’m guessing that I’m going to need a packet sniffer to further
  troubleshoot. I have to confess, though, that I’ve never in my life used
  one. I’ve just never needed to.
 
 
 
  So, can anyone recommend a free, simple packet sniffer I can run from a
  client machine to watch the DHCP traffic? And what, exactly, should I be
  looking for?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  John Hornbuckle
 
  MIS Department
 
  Taylor County School District
 
  www.taylor.k12.fl.us
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  NOTICE: Florida has a broad public records law. Most written
 communications
  to or from this entity are public records that will be disclosed to the
  public and the media upon request. E-mail communications may be subject
 to
  public disclosure.
 

  ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
 ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~








~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/  ~