VMWare, fencing, and SID's, oh my!

2008-11-12 Thread David Lum
The context is VMWare and systems in a Lab Manager fenced environment...

What is the danger of having multiple (cloned) systems on a domain w/out them 
having a unique SID? Will DC's eventually get bogged down with processing or 
anything? The NewSID page states Duplicate SIDs aren't an issue in a 
Domain-based environment since domain accounts have SID's based on the Domain 
SID.

I have a development environment where users can check out VM'd servers..the 
problem is while the IP's are unique, the SID's will be the same. What happens 
if I have 5 systems on the domain with the same SID? The 5 machines do not need 
to talk to each other.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764



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Re: VMWare, fencing, and SID's, oh my!

2008-11-12 Thread Klint Price - ArizonaITPro
I saw a demo for this product a week ago, and the sales guy, fwiw, said 
to include a DC in the fenced area, with network rules on the router so 
the dc could only communicate with the fenced vm's.

Sure looks like a slick product.

Klint


David Lum wrote:

 The context is VMWare and systems in a Lab Manager fenced environment...

  

 What is the danger of having multiple (cloned) systems on a domain 
 w/out them having a unique SID? Will DC's eventually get bogged down 
 with processing or anything? The NewSID page states Duplicate SIDs 
 aren't an issue in a Domain-based environment since domain accounts 
 have SID's based on the Domain SID.

  

 I have a development environment where users can check out VM'd 
 servers..the problem is while the IP's are unique, the SID's will be 
 the same. What happens if I have 5 systems on the domain with the same 
 SID? The 5 machines do not need to talk to each other.

 */David Lum/*/ /*// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER
 NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
 (Desk) 971.222.1025 *// *(Cell) 503.267.9764

  

  


  

  


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RE: VMWare, fencing, and SID's, oh my!

2008-11-12 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
The last time I ghosted a handful of Dells and didn't newsid/sidewalk them
they replaced each other on the domain and 'kicked' the other off, so when I
was all done, I had one pc on the domain (the last one) and the other 4 had
all sorts of weird issues, the pc thought it was on the domain but when you
went to compmgmt.msc and tried to enumerate the local accounts it would
resolve the domain accts as the sid DOMAIN\111-34-5-667-8-9 (you know the
one).

 

Just my .02

 

 


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Re: VMWare, fencing, and SID's, oh my!

2008-11-12 Thread Klint Price - ArizonaITPro
I don't think this is an issue with VMWare's fencing capabilities in Lab 
Manager.

Klint



Benjamin Zachary - Lists wrote:

 The last time I ghosted a handful of Dells and didn't newsid/sidewalk 
 them they replaced each other on the domain and 'kicked' the other 
 off, so when I was all done, I had one pc on the domain (the last one) 
 and the other 4 had all sorts of weird issues, the pc thought it was 
 on the domain but when you went to compmgmt.msc and tried to enumerate 
 the local accounts it would resolve the domain accts as the sid 
 DOMAIN\111-34-5-667-8-9 (you know the one).

  

 Just my .02

  

  


  

  


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