[nycwireless] Ad-Supported Municipal Wireless Networks and the Future of Cities: Three Issues Missing From the Current Debate
This just sort of fell out of my head this afternoon... my response to a lot of these municpal wireless projects has finally congealed in a somewhat coherent form. - http://future.iftf.org/2006/04/adsupported_mun.html Ad-Supported Municipal Wireless Networks and the Future of Cities: Three Issues Missing From the Current Debate Anthony Townsend Research Director Technology Horizons Program Institute for the Future Palo Alto, California http://www.iftf.org From Philadelphia to San Francisco to Portland, plans for municipal wireless networks are on the drawing board in hundreds of cities across America. These ambitious projects are driven by both push and pull forces. On the push side, Wi-Fi technology has rewritten the economics of deploying broadband access in densely built cities. What used to require tearing up streets and deploying costly cables now can be achieved my mounting antennas on street lamps every hundred yards or so. On the pull side, minority communities and small businesses that have been bypassed by DSL and digital cable buildout are mobilizing and demanding equal access to the vital economic lifeline that broadband networks represent. While the speed with which local governments are moving to exploit this opportunity is admirable, IFTF¹s research has identified several areas where insufficient energy is being devoted to explore the long-term consequences of design and implementation decisions. While the working life of today¹s Wi-Fi technologies may only be five to ten years, the infrastructure and governance models put in place today are likely to shape a whole generation¹s worth of urban wireless networks. If cities fail to think ahead, they may find it more challenging to leverage wireless infrastructure for digital inclusion, economic development and public safety in the future. There are three key areas that deserve special attention: Guaranteeing citizens¹ role as content providers Finding a balance for location privacy Enabling the Internet of Things Guaranteeing Citizens¹ Role as Content Providers Perhaps the most exciting development on the Internet in the last five years has been the rise of open, lightweight toolkits for the collaborative creation of local knowledge. San Francisco-based Craigslist.org for example, has become one of the main repositories for classified advertising, and an engine for local economic and social development by making it easier for people to trade and organize locally. Wikipedia has enabled a global community to develop an authoritiatve, multi-lingual compendium of knowledge. Discussions about the design of today¹s municipal wireless networking efforts have not yet addressed the way community-created content can be solicited and integrated in the splash pages and portal sites where wireless users are greeted when they connect. We do know that cities such as Long Beach, California and business improvement districts in New York City have experimented with local content. However, these past experiments did not leverage the tools we possess today to rethink how we might provide a community bulletin board as an integral part of the municipal wireless experience. The directions of current municipal projects instead are unwittingly viewing the wireless network as a means to escape local communities, and as a one-way street for advertisers to subsidize the network¹s operating costs. Therefore, in order to guarantee that municipal wireless networks willl enhance citizen¹s roles as content providers, cities should: Require that wireless franchisees provide significant community access to wireless captive portal pages and splash pages. Ownership, control and access to this resource can be organized in any number of ways having local students document and chronicle local events and other open content authoring models. Cities should demand access to any future advertising channel deployed on ad-supported municipal networks for public service announcement-type content. Striking A Balance on Location Privacy A deadlock is looming over the issue of location privacy on municipal wireless networks. On the one hand, ISPs and advertisers argue that only constant monitoring of user location will allow them to effectively understand and target ads to justify the costs of building and operating citywide networks. On the other hand, privacy advocates argue essentially that any tracking of user location that is not necessary for the operation of data communications service is an unnecessary invasion of individual privacy. However, reality, as always is less clear. While cultural differences abound, wireless users around the world have shown a willingness to have their locations tracked for various purposes security, navigation, and social networking. However, companies and governments have also consistently underestimated people¹s ability to make informed decisions about the disclosure of personal information
[nycwireless] Junxion box?
Has anyone tried this EVDO-Wifi router? I am considering buying one for my car so I can be the biggest geek in Silicon Valley -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] REMOVE ME PLEASE!!!
Only one but you have to send it to the right place. vic ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote @ 3/20/06 5:00 PM: How many requests do I have to make to remove me from this e-mail list? Please tell me: -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Wifi Positioning Systems
Intel's Placelab (www.placelab.org) was a great privacy -sensitive wifi based positioning system developed at their Seattle Lab. But its since been handed over to Microsoft as part of Virtual Earth and they are going to keep ll your personal location data and do anythign they want with it On 12/15/05 8:53 AM, Rob Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We've heard that GPS doesn't work well in the city (too many skyscrapers, not enough open sky). Wifi-based location tracking seems to be an alternative worth considering. The idea is to have the device identify (but not necessarily connect) to surrounding access points and then determine its location by triangulation. A little research has shown a couple wifi efforts. But before checking the options, it'd be wise to to formulate a couple requirements from the savvy wireless consumer's point of view: 1. Open infrastructure, open protocol and open source (no proprietary funniness) 2. 802.11 but not platform-specific (windows, linux, macintosh) 3. Able to have API to build services on top of it (Wifi positioning says I'm here) 4. User privacy (user chooses who gets their location information on a case by case basis) 5. AP owner privacy (respect owner's wishes) So what do we have? A quick ''informal'' Google search reveals two wide area options (speak up if you know of others): ''SkyHook Wireless'' [http://skyhookwireless.com/ ] This Boston firm has press releases all over the place (financing, contracts, awards). They used to be QuarterScope. They use a client software on PocketPC and Windows Mobile, with something coming out for Palm later. They also point to theft identification of stolen laptops. They claim to have mapped a network on 1.5 million access points. How? Like this: [http://www.skyhookwireless.com/scanning/upload.php ] ''HereCast'' [http://www.herecast.com/ ] By comparison, check out HereCast. This is a developer community working to provide an open infrastructure for wifi positioning. It is not a hotspot directory, but simply a directory of access point location. The directory is made up by submission. --- It's interesting to see how this space will develop. It seems any municipal wifi would do well to consider having a location-based service of its own. For example, if Hoboken deployed Access Points on each lamp post, the city could then provide simple wifi positioning information from them. Rob @@@ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] My Way News - Google Bids to Provide WiFi in San Fran
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051002/D8CVIHNG0.html Google Bids to Provide WiFi in San Fran Oct 1, 8:24 PM (ET) By MICHAEL LIEDTKE (AP) Google Inc. chief executive Eric Schmidt applauds during a news conference in Mountain View,... Full Image Google sponsored links $50 - $90 Per Hour - Start Right Away This Week Deposited Daily in your ATM www.netpaychex.com Alabama Debt Settlement - We Negotiate - You Save Up to 90% Free Debt Elimination Consultation! www.Free-Debt-Settlement.com SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - Google Inc. (GOOG) wants to connect all of San Francisco to the Internet with a free wireless service, creating a springboard for the online search engine leader to leap into the telecommunications industry. The Mountain View, Calif.-based company filed an application late Friday to provide wireless, or WiFi, service that would enable anyone in San Francisco to connect to the Internet. Google submitted its 100-page bid in response to a request from Mayor Gavin Newsom, who is looking for a company to finance a free wireless network to lower the financial barriers to Internet access in his city. More than a dozen other bidders are competing with Google. If Google is picked for the San Francisco project, it would provide a testing ground for a national WiFi service - something that many industry observers believe the company is pondering as a way to ensure people can connect to its search engine anytime, from just about anywhere. It makes sense for Google, said Chris Winfield, who runs a search engine marketing firm, 10e20. They say their mission is to organize the world's information, so the logical next step is to provide the access to it. Google spokesman Nate Tyler said Saturday that the company doesn't have any plans to offer a WiFi service outside the San Francisco Bay area. Unwiring San Francisco is a way for Google to support our local Bay Area community, Tyler said. It is also an opportunity to make San Francisco a test-ground for new location-based applications and services that enable people to find relevant information exactly when and where they need it. Google has been quietly experimenting with WiFi service in a few connection spots around the Bay Area and New York during the past few months. In another sign of its interest in Internet access, Google recently bought an undisclosed stake in a Maryland startup, the Current Communications Group, which is trying to provide high-speed connections through power lines. If it wants, Google has both the financial clout and the incentive to get into WiFi. What remains unclear is whether the company has the telecommunications expertise to build and maintain a WiFi service. The company has nearly $7.1 billion in cash, having just raised $4.17 billion in stock offering completed last month. That stock sale prompted several industry analysts to conclude Google might be preparing to build its own high-speed Internet network. Offering free WiFi service could pay off for Google if the greater access gives the company more opportunities to field search requests and ultimately serve up more advertising - the vehicle that provides virtually all of its profits. Building its own wireless Internet network connection also would help Google save money by reducing the fees that it pays to the telecommunications middlemen that provide a bridge between the company's data centers and Internet service providers whenever Web surfers make a search request. Any free Internet access service would threaten to siphon revenue from subscription Internet service providers like SBC Communications Inc. (SBC) and Comcast Corp. (CMCSA) that have invested heavily in high-speed connections that depend on phone lines and cable modems. A Google WiFi service also could divert traffic from many popular Web sites, including Yahoo, MSN and AOL, if it's set up to automatically make Google's home page the first stopping point. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Katrina Rebuilding: Technological Assistance?
i think we need to be realistic about what we can do with wireless in major disasters like this. for the most part the Red Cross, Nat'l Guard, FEMA, etc are very well equipped communications-wise. while we're on it - is Katrina going to be the start of another short- lived collective whine by the blogging community about how to save the world by blogging about it (and then forgetting about it a month later)? or is the South not as cool as Thailand and Sri Lanka? if you want to help, go to work, make money and donate cash to the relief effort or invent a way to pump water or concrete over Wi-Fi On Aug 31, 2005, at 10:45 AM, Dana Spiegel wrote: This is a good question. Read Sascha Meinrath's take on mesh networks for disaster recovery here: http://www.saschameinrath.com/2005aug30disaster_recovery_cuwin -- Dana Spiegel Executive Director NYCwireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.nycwireless.net +1 917 402 0422 Read the Community Wireless blog: http://sociable.blogspot.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Katrina Rebuilding: Technological Assistance? Curious to see if anyone is aware of efforts to plan for rebuilding IT infrastructure after the current crisis in the Katrina-ravaged areas has subsided. I am specifically interested in efforts that we could connect with to leverage wireless skill with enabling the aid agencies IT staff to support larger operations once they need it. Perhaps deploying mesh networks and the like. Also leverage this opportunity to build community wireless when the rebuilding is well underway. I'm looking for connections with other like minded efforts. At present it's pretty early and nothing obvious is posted. Some info may appear on www.boingboing.net in the way of coordinating efforts for techy types. Bill -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] San Francisco to announce citywide wifi plans at 2 pm PDT / 5pm EDT (webcast)
San Francisco to announce citywide wifi plans at 2 pm PDT / 5pm EDT (webcast) http://sanfrancisco.granicus.com/MediaPlayer.php?publish_id=27 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Too Many Aps - Interference
There's not much you can do - New York was lucky enough to be the first place to see near-seamless proliferation of open hotspots We are also the first place to see over-saturation of 2.4 Ghz. I've ben surveying people informally about this and have really noticed a big upswing in incidents in the last 6 months. It's dissapointing - I didn't expect this tragedy of the commons to happen so quickly. I'm very worried about what happens when the FCC realizes this is happening, and likely to happen elsewhere. NYCwireless needs to be involved in solving this problem, either technically or socially. That is the only way to avoid a regulatory clampdown. On Jul 28, 2005, at 7:00 AM, Hans Zaunere wrote: At my apartment, there are at least 14 APs at any given time, and all have fairly strong signals, and are 802.11g. Needless to say, the airwaves around my apartment are packed. As a result, my wireless signal will often drop out, and I'm figuring the only reason is because of the interference. I've restarted, double checked, etc. my AP (Linksys WRTG54g) and all looks to be fine. If I plug into the AP, it's always fine. I've tried changing channels, but to limited success. On each of the 1, 6 and 11 channels, there are at least 3 other APs. When I switch to a channel in between, signal quality actually looks worse. I've also changed between B only and G only mode, but with little result. So, what can someone do to get a reliable wireless signal in these types of environments? Are there any tips or online resources that describe the advanced settings of the WRT54g that might improve my performance? Any other tips or resources? And, if I were to buy a new AP, would it make a difference, and what would some recommendations be? Thanks, --- Hans Zaunere President, New York PHP http://www.nyphp.com -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Junxion in NY Times
July 14, 2005 For Surfers, a Roving Hot Spot That Shares By JOHANNA JAINCHILL When the Sunningdale Country Club in Scarsdale, N.Y., opened its gates last week to a location shoot for The Sopranos, a new fixture was on display in the mobile dressing rooms - a roving Wi-Fi hot spot. With a device called the Junxion Box, the production company can set up a mobile multiuser Internet connection anywhere it gets cellphone service. The box, about the size of a shoebox cover, uses a cellular modem card from a wireless phone carrier to create a Wi-Fi hot spot that lets dozens of people connect to the Internet. The staff members of The Sopranos, squeezed into two trailer dressing rooms, needed only the Junxion Box and their laptops to exchange messages and documents with the production offices at Silvercup Studios in Queens. We used to fax everything, said Henry J. Bronchtein, the show's co- executive producer. The paper would jam; it was messy. This is much more reliable. Junxion Boxes have also been spotted on Google's commuter buses for employees and along Willie Nelson's latest tour. But what may be a boon for wandering Web surfers could quickly become a threat to wireless providers. The premise is one person buys an air card and one person uses the service, not an entire neighborhood, said Jeffrey Nelson, executive director for corporate communications at Verizon Wireless. Giving things away for free doesn't work anymore. It never did. Unlimited service on cellular modem cards for PC's costs about $80 a month. The carriers are clearly worried about a technology that could destroy that business, but they have not formed a united front against Junxion. The makers of the Junxion Box, based in Seattle, seem eager to head off any battle by forming partnerships with the wireless companies. We're not trying to build a radar detector, said John Daly, 42, co- founder of Junxion Inc. and vice president for business development. We believe we're creating an opportunity for the carriers. It may not be entirely comfortable for them right now, but we hope we can get to a point where we can collaborate with them. The Junxion Box was created by Mr. Daly and two partners, David Hsiao, 38, the company's president, and Peter Polson, 31, vice president for product development. The commercial version of the box retails for $699. They plan a less expensive consumer version next year. John Kampfe, director of media and industry analyst relations for Cingular Wireless, said the Junxion Box was being evaluated and certified by Cingular and could eventually be sold in conjunction with Cingular's wireless service for wide-area networks. There is a whole pricing model that has to take place with the Junxion Box, Mr. Kampfe said. So far Junxion has about 200 customers, many of whom are testing the product. The company went around the wireless companies by making Trio Teknologies, a wireless services reseller, its exclusive distributor. Peter Schneider, a partner at Gotham Sound, the communications equipment company in New York that supplied Junxion Boxes to the sets of both The Sopranos and the rapper 50 Cent's upcoming movie, Get Rich or Die Tryin', said his customers would not be interested in wireless modem cards were it not for the possibility to share the connection through the Junxion Box. That's the exact appeal of it for his customers, he said. That you can rent it to a group. As word gets out, it will become part of the communication equipment they rent. But for carriers like Verizon Wireless, which spent $1 billion on its broadband network, it is difficult to let users piggyback on that service. We're not surprised that people are building services like this and trying to attach them to our network, Mr. Nelson of Verizon said. It verifies how cool and how important our network is. We're going to protect that investment. That may prove to be an uphill battle as new technologies like Junxion alter the wireless carriers' control over the use of their networks. That's just something they have got to live with because that's the technology now, said David Anderson, Willie Nelson's tour manager of 31 years. Most people wouldn't or couldn't afford to have that many cards. They weren't going to get 22 customers, but now they got 6. There are two Junxion Boxes in each of the two tour buses and each has three wireless modem cards so they can switch to the cellular provider network with the best local coverage. It allows Mr. Nelson, whom Mr. Anderson describes as a computer geek, to check his e-mail and surf the Web while on the road. The Junxion Box is good for going down the highway, Mr. Anderson said from Hillsboro, Tex., where Mr. Nelson was performing earlier this month. It was frustrating in the older days. It's finally the way it should be. -- NYCwireless -
[nycwireless] Andrew Raisej on WiFi for NY in the New Yorker
The Talk of the Town AROUND CITY HALL THE PUBLIC WHAT? by Ben McGrath Issue of 2005-07-11 and 18 Posted 2005-07-04 It does not necessarily recommend the office of the public advocate that one of the candidates currently seeking the post counts as his chief reason for campaigning a wish to eliminate the position (“I promise to report to work just long enough to fire the staff and padlock the office,” he says), while another intends to reduce the officeholder’s salary by half and dispense with many of the subordinate employees. A third candidate (there are nine) just graduated from college and is apparently named Damon Cabbagestalk, Jr. And yet the office holds so much promise! Despite the fact that hardly anyone seems to know much about it—in a recent poll, two- thirds of “likely voters” in the upcoming Democratic primary couldn’t name the sitting advocate, Betsy Gotbaum—public advocate is the second-ranking post in the city, its occupant next in line to the mayor in case of emergency. The public advocate, basically, is the city’s ombudsman, a watchdog to monitor city services and, according to Gotbaum’s Web site, “to cut through government red tape.” (Of course, it’s the very idea of dedicating a government job specifically to cutting through government red tape that rankles some skeptics.) But the public advocate also presides over meetings of the City Council, breaking ties when necessary. And the public advocate can bring lawsuits against government officials, like the police commissioner, as Mark Green once did, and introduce legislation. “It’s a misunderstood, maligned office that actually has huge potential, because there are already tens of thousands of public advocates,” Andrew Rasiej, a first-time candidate, said the other day, explaining his aim to “connect” New York’s countless well- intentioned citizens—busybodies, to some. The city teems with them: the old woman in your apartment building who’s always slipping notices under your door; the movie-theatre “shusher”; the guy in the drugstore who makes sure the other shoppers know that there’s only one line; Bernie Goetz. Actually, Goetz, the infamous subway gunman turned vegetarian crusader, is running for advocate himself—he’s the one who wants to institute the pay cut. Goetz’s platform includes some truly inspired ideas (he’s for midday power naps), some strangely banal ones (he’d like to see a “tall building” constructed somewhere “around Sixtieth Street”), and some that remind you why he can’t possibly win (he believes that “N.Y.C. should relax more on security”). The peculiar mixture of anonymity and authority conferred by the job description makes the office an attractive target for the ambitious crossover artist. And so the other day Rasiej, who is the founder of Irving Plaza and a onetime technology consultant to Bill Clinton and Howard Dean, positioned himself in front of City Hall, preparing to officially announce his candidacy, which is organized around the theme of connectivity: he advocates universal Wi-Fi access throughout the five boroughs, aboveground and below. Among the benefits that his plan would provide are better schools, blueprint-downloading capabilities for firemen on the go, and real-time subway-service alerts. As he waited for a press conference to conclude inside, Rasiej demonstrated an appealing mixture of bravado (Gotbaum “won’t appear with me in public—the contrast is too great”) and defeatism (“She’s got the Times endorsement locked up”). He noted that City Hall Park offers wireless Internet, whereas City Hall does not—a condition no more sensible than “building I-95 and stopping a hundred yards short of the George Washington Bridge.” Soon it was time to start. “I’m launching my political career,” he said, nervously biting a knuckle, and then he walked up to a lectern that had been fashioned from a stack of old computers. A crowd of supporters held “Rasiej for Public Advocate” signs. Only one sign— belonging to an intern named Emily—was upside down. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] WiFi Speed Spray
http://j-walk.com/other/wifispray/ hah! -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] AlwaysOnGPS?
or you could just use PlaceLab for free www.placelab.org On Jun 13, 2005, at 4:35 PM, Rob Kelley wrote: From gpspassion.com: [http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/news.asp#news_592] With the deployment of A-GPS (Assisted GPS - technical details) somewhat in the air, here comes AlwaysOnGPS [http://http://www.alwaysongps.com/], an innovative solution that uses WiFi to assist a GPS. The concept seems simple enough, the software memorizes the position of WiFi base stations you come across as you would do for 'war-driving', but instead of just mapping them out, their position can be used later to assist the GPS in case the signal gets lost and to increase accuracy. With the limited range of WiFi, it will likely only work well in dense urban areas, but that's also where GPS signals get blocked the most. You can give it a try with the 30 day trial version and use this thread of the 'GPS and Mobile News' forums to discuss. --- What's the skinny? Is this a plausible application? Rob -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/ nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: [IP] T-Mobile: 450,000 People Paid to Use Wi-Fi
T-Mobile: 450,000 People Paid to Use Wi-Fi - Jun 13, 2005 12:38 AM (AP Online) By BRUCE MEYERSON AP Business Writer NEW YORK (AP) -- T-Mobile USA disclosed user statistics from its Wi-Fi business for the first time Monday, reporting that 450,000 customers have paid to access the wireless Internet service in the past three months. The cell phone company declined to provide a year-ago customer tally for comparison, but did release figures showing a sharp increase in usage for the service, which provides high-speed Internet access for laptops at locations such as Starbucks coffee shops, airports and hotels. For example, T-Mobile Hotspot users are staying online an average of 64 minutes per login in 2005, up from 45 minutes last year and 23 minutes in 2003. The total number of log-ins has totaled 3 million in the past three months, vs. about 8 million in all of 2004. The Wi-Fi service is a key business for T-Mobile, which unlike many of its mobile phone rivals is not upgrading its cellular network to deliver high-speed Internet access in addition to phone service. ... - http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=49800520 - You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Muniwireless: NYC Wi-Fi in the park: 46 MB and running! Archives
has anyone figured out the business model here? or is this guy just blowing his trust fund on free wifi? (which i wholeheartedly approve!) --- http://www.muniwireless.com/archives/000731.html NYC WI-FI IN THE PARK: 46 MB AND RUNNING! Check out this Rocketboom video interview of Marshall Brown, founder and CEO of the Wi-Fi Salon, and Andrew Rasiej, who is running for public advocate in New York. Marshall's company has a concession to set up and maintain 18 Wi-Fi Hot Spot locations in 9 parks in 4 boroughs in NYC. The first is at Battery Park, which you are seeing on the video, which has 7 APs fed with 46 mbps backhaul. The next, Central Park and eight other locations are to be completed in July. Andrew emphasizes that people in NYC pay an average of $50 per month for broadband to cable and telecoms operators, a significant amount for middle-class and lower middle-class families. He believes they are paying too much. I am sure the bandwidth they are graciously provided by the Duopoly does not approach 8 Mbps, which is what I get in Amsterdam. Among the uses for a Wi-Fi hotspot in the park: - watch streaming video on your Wi-Fi enabled devices (see the portable video screen in the interview) - play online games via a Sony Playstation Portable (Wi-Fi enabled) - do work on your laptop (least favored use) This is a such a fantastic initiative from Marshall and I am glad he's not skimping on the bandwidth. Wi-Fi Salon has portal software for this (www.portalize.org) (see / battery for the first instance) and www.portalize.org/controlpanel for the control panel; they also have VOIP (www.packetalk.net). -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: [IP] Earthlink mods the Linksys 54G for IPv6
Begin forwarded message: From: David Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 28, 2005 10:38:39 AM EDT To: Ip ip ip@v2.listbox.com Subject: [IP] Earthlink mods the Linksys 54G for IPv6 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Begin forwarded message: From: Jim Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 27, 2005 5:28:27 PM EDT To: Dave Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: fwd (from a friend): Earthlink mods the Linksys 54G for IPv6 Thought this might be of interest to those who are using wireless in their homes or business: http://www.research.earthlink.net/ipv6/ I found this via the Inquirer: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=23535 THE RESEARCH ARM of the american ISP giant Earthlink, has released experimental firmware for the popular Linksys WRT54G routers (currently selling for $59 greenbacks), modified by them to add IPv6 support. This removes the need for NAT translation and can in fact make every device in your home have a public IPv6 address (if such devices and computers support IPv6). D - You are subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED] To manage your subscription, go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting- people/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] South Street Seaport Node Still Up?
coverage is only inside the 3rd flood food court of the Pier 17(?) mall On May 17, 2005, at 1:44 PM, Joe Plotkin wrote: The circuit is up and pingable -- and traffic pattern from today looks like normal usage on the circuit. SSID should be cornercast or emenity, I think. -- Joe -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: Open Park Update --We need your help !
please support them by writing Smithsonian Begin forwarded message: From: Staple, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: May 16, 2005 11:20:10 AM EDT To: Anthony Townsend [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Open Park Update --We need your help ! Anthony: Thought I would bring this to your attention so that , hopefully, you can pass it along and get it circulated to the NYC Wireless list. We are finallly getting much closer to winning an agreement with the Smithsonian for the roof top access we need to create a vibrant new community wireless park on the Mall -- a hotspot for democracy -- but we need one more public push. Hence, my plea below to Open Park's email list which I am also forwarding to friends and fellow travelers. Please do what you can and let the Smithsonian know that you support our efforts. Every letter and email count ! Do give me a shout if you want more information or background. This has been quite a journey. But , I am convinced we can make this happen. all the best, Greg -Original Message- From: Open Park News [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 9:05 AM Subject: Please Help Open Park Provide Free WiFi on the Mall I am writing today with some urgency because Open Park's dream of creating a free community WiFi service on the National Mall is facing a crucial challenge. I know that the outcome will be positive, however, with a little help from our many friends on this mailing list. Since mid 2004, Open Park has tried to negotiate a mutually beneficial agreement with the Smithsonian Institution for suitable rooftop antenna sites on the Mall. An agreement is critical to Open Park's success because, without access to the roofs of the major museums overlooking the center of the Mall, it will be very difficult if not impossible to provide a strong and reliable wireless Internet signal to most Mall visitors. Open Park expected to reach an agreement with the Smithsonian in December 2004 after several joint drafting sessions with the Institution's Office of Contracting. The draft agreement contemplated the non-exclusive installation of Open Park's antennas for a trial period (until December 2006) with Open Park to bear all costs, including the costs of any Smithsonian supervisory staff (estimated at under $2000). However, in February 2003, the Smithsonian decided to break off negotiations. It told the Congress that Open Park's proposed use of the Smithsonian's premises was not directly related to the Smithsonian's own operations and programs. During the last week though, the Smithsonian has decided to reconsider, as reported in the May 9 edition of the Washington Post (click here for the article). Sheila Burke, Deputy Secretary and Chief Operating Officer, has agreed to take a new look at the merits of Open Park's proposed WiFi installation. Ms. Burke told the Post that Obviously, access to the Smithsonian is one issue that is critical for us. Having people find an easy way to get information is something we care deeply about. We agree, of course, and we have always thought that Open Park's WiFi service could go a long way to meeting the Smithsonian's goals. Simply put, Open Park's free public WiFi service will support the Smithsonian's current operations and programs by providing free on site access to the Institution's numerous web sites, on-line event calendars, ticket offices and new web-based music service (i.e., the Folkways records site). None of these Internet based services are readily available today to Smithsonian visitors because there are no public Internet terminals at any Mall museum. Open Park's free public hotspot service would remedy this IT shortfall -- at no cost to the Smithsonian or the tax payer -- by providing museum goers high speed online access just when it may be most desired -- on the steps of the Mall 's most popular museums. Please tell the Smithsonian yourself about the promise of Open Park. Your message can be as short as this: Dear Smithsonian -- Please grant Open Park the roof top access it has requested to provide the public with free Wifi service this Summer on the Mall. Feel free to put this in you own words though and, if you are a Smithsonian member or donor, as many of you are, don't forget to say so. But make your support for Open Park known. Take a few minutes today or tomorrow to pick up your pen or to put your fingers on your keyboard and write. And for those of you who want some more details on the benefits Open Park will provide, please click here to read Open Park's Congressional briefing. Contact details for the Smithsonian's executives are appended at the foot of this letter. US mail or courier may be best as we all hate having our email boxes jammed with messages we did not expect, even if this comes with the job. We'd like to keep a tally of your letters, so be sure to send Open Park a copy at 740
[nycwireless] Fwd: - The Latest VPN for Rent
these might be useful services for list members Wi-Fi Networking News Wi-Fi Networking News reports nearly daily on all the news associated with wireless networking. The Latest VPN for Rent At some point, they'll be too many to mention, but PublicVPN.com is the newest member of the club: PublicVPN.com has launched to offer virtual private networking to all comers for a fee, offering the sort of service that information technology departments provide to mobile corporate workers. PublicVPN.com positions itself among several competitors by offering no custom client and using plain PPTP and IPsec flavors of VPN. Its competitors include HotSpotVPN.com (standard PPTP and SSL VPN with a client), WiTopia.net (SSL VPN with a client), and JiWire's SpotLock (IPsec using a client). PublicVPN.com is $5.95 per month or $59.95 per year -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] MIT Tech REview - The WiMax Difference
http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/04/wo/wo_042505stu.asp? trk=top The WiMax Difference By Stu Hutson April 25, 2005 WiMAX, or the 802.16 standard, is meant to do for to the Internet what cell phones did for making telephone calls. Soon, Internet access will span for miles with the help of a series of towers delivering connectivity. Unfortunately, the idea has been sloshing around in the murky depths of standards development for years. This has been dragging on so long, in fact, that companies such as Clearwire and California's NextWeb have already built substantial profit margins by offering complicated pre-WiMAX technology services which are scaled down versions of WiMAX that constrict data rates and end-user mobility. But, last week, WiMAX finally hit the big time. Intel announced that it's beginning worldwide shipments of its PRO/Wireless 5116 hardware, which means commercial WiMAX trials are about to start popping up by the end of the year. This isn't the first release of WiMAX hardware, but it does signal the most significant advancement as of yet. The chipmaker will be working with Clearwire to act as a service provider, but numerous other media companies are on board to be WiMAX service carriers. Using the pre-WiMAX technologies already in place, wholly developed ecosystems (as Intel likes to call them) of devices, users, towers and multiple service carriers should be emerging by the end of 2006. But one has to wonder how this set up will take place. In large cities, where it's easy enough to prop a tower on a building, WiMAX will sometimes be in direct competition with city-run, distributed WiFi systems. Although, as Intel points out, WiMAX signals are likely to fade out like a cellular service inside of buildings, so the technology is actually best when paired with interior WiFi hot spots. And many smaller communities, especially in the Northeast, are already peeved at the number of ugly cell phone towers. Although there are rumors that some companies are pushing to revamp some cell towers into WiMAX, since they can also carry cellular signals. As a side note, look for a big portion of WiMAX's early income to come from carrying cellular backhaul -- at least until enough people pick up their own personal WiMAX cards to make the venture profitable for broadband Internet service providers. Along the same lines, WiMAX may actually begin to replace cell phone service. Or at least that's what NextWeb has in mind. They announced last week that they're going to start a WiMAX phone service in a couple of months. So after the big deployment, what's next? Well, there is the eventual deployment of the 802.20 standards, which will be a souped-up cellular service that can provide one megabits per second (Mbps) of data transmission. At issue: this will likely draw too much away from the 3G infrastructure for smart phones, in which phone companies have made tremendous investment. Further down the line, Sanswire may have the winning idea. Last week, they unveiled the first stratellite, a blimpish looking craft that positions itself at a fixed location in the stratosphere to provide wireless service to an area the size of Texas -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Subway Entrance LED Screens use WiFi
what happens when Verizon pulls the plug on its wi-fi network! On Apr 21, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Rob Kelley wrote: FYI. From a press release from the Antenna manufacturer: [http://www.wifi-plus.com/pages/12/index.htm] ;:The content delivery process is all-digital and extremely fast, with the ads sent via the Internet from Clear Channel in New York to UDN's Las Vegas office. There, the advertising content is play scheduled using the Webpavement sign operating system and web-based server, edited (if necessary) by UDN's creative department and finally uploaded to individual screens via the Verizon wireless connection. We can remotely administer the system from anywhere - Las Vegas, for example - and the open architecture means we were able to customize the functionality to our specific needs, adds Williams. ;:Each screen is fitted with an omni directional WiFi-Plus Ultra-M antenna, which had proved to give the best performance on the Manhattan streets, a demanding environment because of the multiple obstacles of buildings, cars and pedestrian traffic. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] wifi mapping :: mapping urban data clouds
http://www.geosimulation.org/geosim/wifi.htm another take on wardriving maps -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Muniwireless: Andrew Seybold on Wi-Fi chaos: the next citizens band?
what do you all think? i believe i've been running into interference issues here and there in Manhattan - which may signal this is about to become more widespread. http://www.muniwireless.com/archives/000629.html -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: [telecom-cities] Wireless London events
for those interested in happenings on the other side of the pond Begin forwarded message: fyi I've written up the first two events from the Wireless London series here http://citynoise.blogspot.com/2005/01/wireless-london-event.html http://citynoise.blogspot.com/2005/02/wireless-london-semantic- city.html The final event in the series is called Social Exoskeletons and will be held on March 15th at 6.30 at the AA. Wireless London is an organisation set up to promote the spread of city-wide wireless (among other things-- more info here: http://wirelesslondon.info/HomePage) has held a couple of events at the Architectural Association in London pairing architects alongside practitioners from the field of wireless technologies and Free Networks, and beginning to look at the parallels between existing architectural methodologies and emerging wireless technology practices. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] wireless webcam experiences?
anyone have any experience with the various models of stand-alone web streaming video cameras? basically i'm looking for something that i can use at the many workshops and events we have at NYU, just plop down on the table and stream the event to the Internet. so it needs sound, and decent quality video under good indoor lighting conditions (though sometimes low light, especially when people are using Powerpoint) any recommendations or pointers would be appreciated -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Re: Re: Assembly Hearing on WiFi
On Feb 17, 2005, at 4:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Awhile that is all and interesting, the FCC can make any legislation of the type null and void, as it is the body in charge of this. *plonk* FCC is the federal agency in charge of implementing legislation. They can't *change* legislation they are mandated to implement. actually they are a regulatory agency so they make lots and lots of rules that only ever get voted on by the 5 commissioners. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] wireless internet modem bonding
but apparently they haven't figured out that a bunch of guys running around with laptops isn't very sneaky. ;) On Feb 18, 2005, at 11:16 AM, Robert Kim, Wireless Internet Consultant wrote: One of my clients is the US federal marshals office ... They use the evdo router to cast local area wifi for covert opperations... I cannot go into further details but let me tell you.. They are veryyy clever.. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Boston Plans Wireless Access in Subways
let me offer a few reasons why its a good idea: 1) during emergencies - either for civilians to call 911, or public officials to communicate w/ outside world (yes they have radios, but cell phones are a good backup) 2) economic development - it makes the city a more modern, business friendly place. 3) reducing traffic congestion - we dont know how many people drive because they can't use their phones in the public transit system. if its takes cell phone connectivity to get them out of their cars, is a win for New Yorkers i'm certain that equilibrium can be reached. after spending the summer in Seoul where cell phone service is available 100% in the subways, people are strongly discouraged by signs and each other from talking loudly. more or less it seems to work - though of course there are instances where it doesnt. people usually get up and move away from the loud talker if it bothers them. the value of the connectivity is clear - nearly every call is along the lines of i'll be there in 5 minutes or i'll be 5 minutes late On Feb 13, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Emre Celebi wrote: I agree, installing today's cellular system in subways is a bad idea. Think about amount of radiaton you'll expose people in. All cars have metallic case, it won't work well unless you install a device within each, or unless you fry people into mutants. Would you want a cellular base station installed in your room? Little exaggerated, but not far from reality. Unless very low power, higher capacity wireless communication technologies are used, I'm against it. As a start, wifi can be used for internet access, delay tolerant messaging, and everyone will benefit p2p technologies. I believe, majority of people would prefer private messaging in public places, if they have the option. Finally, nobody would tolerate the Lombard effect. Best, Emre -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] can someone please help this guy?
Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: January 12, 2005 1:24:27 PM EST Subject: Wireless Network Anthony, I am having trouble with borrowing my neighbors internet. I found a server that has default and connected to it so that I have an IP address but I still do not have access to the internet. I do not understand what is wrong because everything appears to be working. Would you please send me some help over here I must have internet. Thank you, Daniel -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: [Wi-Fi Net News] Model Anti-Municipal Broadband Bill - December 19, 2004
Verizon On Dec 21, 2004, at 1:13 AM, Dana Spiegel wrote: she'd like to know who- -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Airport keeps connecting to wrong network
i figured out what's going on. my girlfriend tells me she accidentally clicked the trust this network thing that popped up the first time it tried to connect to the neighbor's network, so now it is defaulting to that even when i specify my network is there a way to remove trusted networks on OS X? On Dec 9, 2004, at 7:37 PM, Anthony Townsend wrote: i'm having problems with an Airport-ed iBook that keeps connecting to my neighbor's linksys AP even though i've created a Location in my NEtwork prefs to tell it to connect to www.nycwireless.net anyone every experience anything similar? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Airport keeps connecting to wrong network
i'm having problems with an Airport-ed iBook that keeps connecting to my neighbor's linksys AP even though i've created a Location in my NEtwork prefs to tell it to connect to www.nycwireless.net anyone every experience anything similar? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Pennsylvania legislature gets suckered(?)
its still up in the air if the gov will sign also, if they finish the proposed project by 3/1/2006 i think they will not be blocked by this law On Nov 23, 2004, at 12:10 AM, Rob Kelley wrote: Some said making all downtown Philly wireless was too ambitious (not me), but now according to muniwireless.com the Pennsylvania legislature has passed a law that prohibits its and gives the whole game to players like Verizon: As Harold Feld puts it: It looks like a public subsidy to build infrastructure, but, thanks to the statute, THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN BUY IT FROM IS VERIZON! It's on the governor's desk, awaiting his signature: http://www.muniwireless.com/archives/000509.html Rob __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Slate - How To Steal Wi-Fi: And how to keep the neighbors from stealing yours
How To Steal Wi-Fi: And how to keep the neighbors from stealing yours. By Paul Boutin Posted Thursday, Nov. 18, 2004, at 2:16 PM PT When I moved into a new neighborhood last week, I expected the usual hassles. Then I found out I'd have to wait more than a month for a DSL line. I started convulsing. If I don't have Net access for even one day, I can't do my job. So, what was I supposed to do? There's an Internet caf on the next block, but they close early. I had no choiceit was time to start sneaking on to my neighbors' home networks. Every techie I know says that you shouldn't use other people's networks without permission. Every techie I know does it anyway. If you're going to stealno, let's say borrowyour neighbor's Wi-Fi access, you might as well do it right. Step one: Lose the guilt. The FCC told me that they don't know of any federal or state laws that make it illegal to log on to an open network. Using someone's connection to check your e-mail isn't like hacking into their bank account. It's more like you're borrowing a cup of sugar. (Unless you hog their bandwidth by watching lots of streaming videothat's like hijacking a sugar truck.) In the end, it's your neighbor's Internet service providernot your neighborwho will pay for the added traffic, and the ISP has already factored a small amount of line-sharing into their price plan. It is true that your surfing could cause the folks next door to break their service contractmany broadband providers do specifically forbid home customers from sharing a connection. But let's deal with those abstract ethical issues lateryou have important mail to answer! If you want to find a Wi-Fi network, don't start by looking on the sidewalk for chalk marks. Warchalking, a technique for writing symbols in public places to alert neighbors to nearby wireless access points, is a cool concept that's been undermined by the fact that no one has ever used it. The best method to find some free wireless is to treat your laptop like a cell phone. Since Wi-Fi and cell phone signals travel on a similar radio frequency, the same tricks you use for getting a better phone connection might work on your computer. Sit near a window, since Wi-Fi signals travel better through glass than through solid walls. Stay away from metal objects. Pay close attention to your laptop's orientationrotating your machine just a few degrees could help you pick up a network that you couldn't see before. Raise your laptop over your head, put it flat on the floor, tilt it sideways while leaning halfway out the windowget out the divining rod if you have to. You might get a reputation for being some sick laptop yoga freak, but isn't free Internet worth it? If you live downtown or in a suburb where the houses are close together, a few minutes of laptop gymnastics will probably reveal several Wi-Fi networks. Certain names are a giveaway that a network probably won't be password-protected. Look for linksys, default, Wireless, NETGEAR, belkin54g, and Apple Network 0273df. These are the default network names for the most popular wireless routers. If a network owner hasn't taken the time to change the default name, that's a good clue that they probably won't have a password either. You should also look for signs of hacker culture. Since hackers love giving away Net access, an all-lowercase name like hackdojo is most likely an invitation to log on. On the other hand, a name in all caps is typically a network under corporate lockdown. If you do get prompted for a password, try publicthat's the default on many of Apple's AirPort units. You can also try common passwords like admin, password, and 1234or just check out this exhaustive list of default passwords. You should also try using the name of the network in the password space. A generic password could mean that the network's owner didn't have the sense to pick something less obvious or that they've decided to welcome outsiders. But who cares? You're in. And again, there's no specific law barring you from guessing the password, as long as you don't crack an encrypted network and read other people's transmissions. You can tell that you've successfully joined a wireless network when your laptop's IP address changes as it's assigned a local number by the network's router. To watch it happen on a PC, keep the Network control panel in Windows open; if you have an Apple notebook, look at the Network section of the System Preferences program. (And if you're running Linux, I don't need to tell you where to look.) Once your laptop has an IP address, your next hurdle is getting DNS to work. DNS stands for Domain Name Serviceit's what translates Internet domains like slate.com into IP addresses like 207.46.141.216. On most networks, DNS works automatically. But if you get a browser error like Cannot find server, go back to your network menus and configure your laptop to use a public name
Re: [nycwireless] 16 Multimedia Wi-Fi Hot Spots in 9 Major Parks in NYC
yes it was announced about a year and a half ago. they required a $5000 (i think) deposit to bid, which pretty much ruled NYCwireless out from the get-go. this is the Parks Dept, like every other NYC agency, trying to whore itself out to any willing buyer, to maximize revenue in a very tight fiscal environment. i suppose the MTA will be next. On Nov 10, 2004, at 4:37 PM, Rob Kelley wrote: Was there any news that this concession was even available to bid on? How did this come about anyway? Rob -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Re: bandwidth for 15 voip lines?
has anyone considered how highly unlikely it is that all 15 of these lines are going to be in use simultaneously? maybe if its a call center, but not if its Yury's pals (artists?) i would oversubscribe 3:1 or even 4:1 and say a 768/1.5 business ADSL would be more than enough. a 384/1.5 might even work. On Nov 5, 2004, at 11:47 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Yury G wrote: to give some context to what i was asking 14 people and myself are moving into an office space. we need to get an affordable high-speed connection and phone lines into the place. we all need separate phone numbers. i thought it would be cheaper to set everyone up with vontage service (or another voip service). so we thought it would be best to figure out what kind of bandwidth we need for the voip phones before choosing the most appropriate and affordable internet package. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Popup page when accessing Wifi
three options, in increasing order of technical difficulty http://m0n0.ch/wall/ http://www.nycwireless.net/pebble/ http://www.ilesansfil.org/wiki/WiFiDog Monowall and pebble require some kind of linux box, preferably an embedded device like the Soekris Net 4501 WiFiDog can be installed on a Linksys WRT54g, though i believe the installation instructions are still only in French On Nov 6, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Terry Rattray wrote: Hello all. I was wondering if there is a way to have a webpage popup on someone computer when they access my Access Point. I was thinking of maybe it saying Welcome to my page or something like that. Please let me know. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Pocasting meetings
i think the challenge is not what protocol we use, but getting someone regularly to show up and record a decent clip for webcasting On Nov 2, 2004, at 3:12 PM, Jonathan Greene wrote: The nice thing about the Podcasting stuff is that you can support Torrent files as well as mp3, aac or any other enclosed format in RSS On Nov 2, 2004, at 3:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Were you thinking of video or just audio? There are all sorts of cool things going on in the Podcasting world today. It would be cool to be able to catch up with what nycwireless was up to by downloading an mp3 of the talks. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] help with short perl/shell packet counter script
here's the final version. dumps the # of packets received over 10
second intervals to /var/tmp/packetcount
#!/usr/local/perl
#
# A perl script to count packets on Ethernet and 802.11b networks for
network activity visualization projects
# Anthony Townsend, Kurt Starsinic
# Distributed under GPL license
while ()
{
$n = 10;
$packets = 0;
$end = time() + $n;
# change to en0 for Ethernet en1 for wireless on Mac
open(TCPDUMP,/usr/sbin/tcpdump -q -i en1|) or die Can't open
tcpdump: $!;
while (TCPDUMP) {
$packets++;
last if time() $end;
}
close TCPDUMP;
open (OUTFILE, /var/tmp/packetcount) or die Can't open file for
writing;
print OUTFILE $packets;
print Total packets received in last 10 seconds (# written to
/var/tmp/packetcount): $packets\n;
}
On Oct 28, 2004, at 11:45 AM, Anthony Townsend wrote:
hi all - another help request
i have a student who needs a short script that will use tcpdump to
count the total # of packets heard on a wireless network every N
seconds
was able to find this Perl snippet as a start, but need to figure out
a way to make it end after N seconds and then output the total # of
packets (i.e. the total number of lines), and dump the IP filters and
just count all the packets.
open(TCPDUMP,/usr/sbin/tcpdump -q -i wlan0|) or die Can't open
tcpdump: $!;
for (TCPDUMP) {
++$hogcount[0] if /192.168.1.15$/;# hog #1
++$hogcount[1] if /192.168.1.45$/;# hog #2
}
END { close TCPDUMP; print Hog 1 had $hogcount[0] packets and Hog 2
had
$hogcount[1]\n; }
thanks in advance for anyone willing to help
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[nycwireless] help with short perl/shell packet counter script
hi all - another help request
i have a student who needs a short script that will use tcpdump to
count the total # of packets heard on a wireless network every N
seconds
was able to find this Perl snippet as a start, but need to figure out a
way to make it end after N seconds and then output the total # of
packets (i.e. the total number of lines), and dump the IP filters and
just count all the packets.
open(TCPDUMP,/usr/sbin/tcpdump -q -i wlan0|) or die Can't open
tcpdump: $!;
for (TCPDUMP) {
++$hogcount[0] if /192.168.1.15$/;# hog #1
++$hogcount[1] if /192.168.1.45$/;# hog #2
}
END { close TCPDUMP; print Hog 1 had $hogcount[0] packets and Hog 2 had
$hogcount[1]\n; }
thanks in advance for anyone willing to help
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[nycwireless] old PCs/APs needed for captive portal projects
hi all - i have a couple of students who are building interesting captive portal projects at NYU's Interactive Telecommunications Project. to keep development costs down, i thought i'd reach out to see if anybody on the list has old PCs or wireless APs that we can use for these projects. pretty much anything 486/Pentium and 802.11b will do thanks in advance. if have anything to donate, please bring it to the meeting tonight -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: Where Good Wi-Fi Makes Good Neighbors
Where Good Wi-Fi Makes Good Neighbors October 21, 2004 By IAN KELDOULIS MOHIT SANTRAM, a student at New York University, happily shares his high-speed Internet connection with whoever taps the wireless signal available within about 300 feet of his apartment in the East Village. But Mr. SantRam offers more than just the opportunity to piggyback anonymously on an Internet connection. People picking up his signal are first directed to a bulletin board where they can post and read neighborhood information and gossip. This arrangement comes courtesy of Neighbornode, a project created by John Geraci that is part of a bare-bones software package provided by NYCWireless, a volunteer advocacy group instrumental in turning places like Bryant Park into public hot spots. The group is encouraging people to set up their own hot spots and electronic bulletin boards to let communities of otherwise anonymous urbanites find one another. In Mr. SantRam's case, he discovered a neighbor who had the same favorite band. A trip to a Boston to hear them followed, and the neighbor made a small donation toward Mr. SantRam's monthly Internet access bill. Other residents have used his Neighbornode to complain about the block's noise problems and formulate action. One guy wrote to me and thanked me, Mr. SantRam said about a user who logged on from a nearby cafe while visiting from San Francisco. He sent money to pay for the cost. It was nice. Providing this level of interactivity on a small-scale wireless node used to require a large-scale understanding of Unix. But Mr. Geraci, a graduate student in N.Y.U.'s interactive telecommunications program, said the goal in creating Neighbornode was to make the process easier. If you can install Microsoft Word on your computer, you can set up a community hot spot, he said. Instructions, open-source firewall software called M0n0wall and other files are at www.nycwireless.net/hotspot. While a dedicated computer is required, just about any old machine will do. And the equipment needed is nothing like the clutter formerly necessary to do the job. Before I got this working, Rob Kelley said of the newly configured node he runs from his Chelsea apartment, I used six appliances, a bunch of routing and an antenna set. I ran two wireless networks, an internal network and my own local server. It was the type of mess only an I.T. project manager like him could live with. Mr. Kelley currently runs his Neighbornode hot spot on a Soekris 4511, a small single-chip computer without a hard drive that sells for about $200. Now all I have is two small boxes and relatively decent-looking antenna, he said. My wife is really happy. Free community access appeals to more than people who consider themselves guerrilla techies. For over a year, Judith Escalona has been exploring ways to bring Wi-Fi to East 106th Street between Lexington and Third Avenues, the location of MediaNoche, a new-media gallery and digital film studio of which she is co-director. At the beginning of this month, Ms. Escalona attended a workshop on setting up community nodes offered by NYCWireless, and she was impressed. The gallery already provides wireless access inside, but ultimately she wants to blanket the whole area. Neighbornode, she said, may fit the bill. As with other Wi-Fi projects, there are concerns. For some people, opening their virtual space means a loss of privacy. Mr. SantRam, for instance, no longer does his Internet banking from home, since others have access to the Internet through his system. Instead, he trusts the landlines of the computers at his school. Mr. Geraci and Dana Spiegel, a director of NYCWireless, feel that with standard security measures and common sense, there should be few if any problems. Another fear is that precious bandwidth will be soaked up by thirsty neighbors, and monthly access charges will skyrocket. Monowall permits the person who sets up the hot spot to allocate bandwidth and maintain a healthy personal reserve. If these do-it-yourself nodes catch on, a new form of urban communication may emerge, taking advantage of the coincidence that a Wi-Fi hot spot and a city block are roughly the same size. Different nodes as they get set up can talk to each other, Mr. Geraci said. They can forward information from one to the next. You get this grapevine of information at the street level. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/21/technology/circuits/21spot.html? ex=1099820274ei=1en=c6d9d6ac72f50354 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Gotham Gazette -Tech, Art, Protest and Politics
Gotham Gazette - http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/tech/20041019/19/1154 Tech, Art, Protest and Politics by Laura Forlano October 10, 2004 In City Hall Park at the beginning of the month, Joshua Kinberg, a recent graduate of the Parsons School of Design, was exhibiting the device that had gotten him arrested a month earlier. It looked like a bicycle. In fact, that is what it is, though certainly state-of-the-art -- and Kinberg is what you could call a state-of-the-art bike messenger. The bicycle has both a wireless connection to the Internet, and a printer, and is designed to receive political messages sent from the Internet or from a cell phone, and then print them in neat block letters on the street. The kind of messages he hoped to receive were unambiguous: He calls his project Bikes Against Bush. This is not graffiti, he is quick to tell people, since the bicycle prints in water-soluble chalk. But the police were apparently not convinced of this. He was arrested a couple of days before the Republican National Convention began, and the police confiscated his bicycle. The police still have his bicycle; his next court appearance is scheduled for November 17. But he was able to bring a demo version of his bike against Bush to City Hall, one of some dozen wireless art projects exhibited as part of Spectropolis. The three-day event sought to show, as its Web site explains, how communication technologies -- cell phones, laptops, wireless internet, PDAs and radio -- are generating new urban experiences. Something new does seem to be happening at the intersection of art, protest, politics and technology. The Protests Bikes Against Bush was not the only technology developed for use during the protests against the Republican National Convention. Activists used virtually cost-free technology to coordinate hundreds of actions and mobilize thousands of activists. Independent journalists and activist groups used cell phone text-messaging developed by a free service called TxtMob to coordinate their actions. The New York Independent Media Center set up a 24-hour information line to broadcast breaking news and a calendar of events; despite little publicity, the information line received more than 2000 calls over a four-day period. We've appropriated technology as an essential tool for radical social change, says Evan Henshaw-Plath, the Indymedia activist that developed the information line. Wireless Week If innovations like Joshua Kinberg's bicycle make some city officials nervous, they intrigue others; City Councilmember Gale Brewer announced October 4th through 8th as Wireless Week in honor of Spectropolis. Spectropolis allowed New Yorkers to participate in free hands-on technology workshops, which encouraged them to play with the technologies and think about their impact on our lives and environments. In one workshop people built their own radio frequency identification detector (commonly referred to as an RFID tag); the tags are already used in a variety of ways -- Pets are often embedded with small chips so that they may be returned to their owners if lost, according to Wikipedia, and they are also used in library books, automobile key-and-lock, anti-theft systems; to pay tolls, to track prisoners -- and the tags are expected to become ever more widely employed in an array of consumer products. Another workshop taught local community members to build their own wireless Internet hotspots. According to Dana Spiegel, the events producer and a director at NYCwireless, Spectropolis was an amazing success, bringing thousands of people from New York and around the world to Lower Manhattan to experience new wireless art. The event showcases that [wireless Internet] hotspots are about local communities and connecting people, and not just about checking your email. All of the projects used the public airwaves (technically known as electromagnetic spectrum) in some way in order to create their art. Making more and better quality airwaves available for public use is currently a vital telecommunications policy issue. This is because the majority of the airwaves are licensed by the Federal Communications Commission to government agencies (such as the defense department), telecommunications companies and commercial broadcasters. Currently, only a small portion of the airwaves are available for unlicensed use despite emerging technologies, such as smart radios, which make the current system outdated. Laura Forlano is a doctoral student studying communication technology policy at Columbia University. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Apartment Buildings
for starters, change channels. run net/macstumbler and pick the least used of 1,6 or 11 also you should be able to designate preferred networks in XP or use Location profiles in OSX On Oct 19, 2004, at 10:10 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote: When I first got my wireless AP it was great - I could pretty much sit anywhere in the apartment and get a reliable connection. But as my neighbors started getting wireless access points Ive found the connection has gotten worse. Now I am limited to where I can use the wifi connection. If I do a scan in the front of the apartment I see 5 maybe 6 access points nearby. Im convinced those APs interfere with mine. Because Im using wifi on laptops (that may travel from time to time) I have them configured to connect to the nearest AP but sometimes this isn't mine (in fact, one weekend I worked for 3 hours straight before noticing I was using someone else's access point!). I was just wondering what sort of techniques people recommend for combatting this? Im thinking I may have to buy some antennas (Buffalo?) or maybe invest in powerline ethernet devices and move my AP closer to the center of the apartment (right now its close to my router which is at the back of the aprtment). I have tried configuring different channels on the AP and did not see any difference in signal/noise ratios. Any ideas? -- -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] AP - FCC Chair to Seek Net Telephone Oversight
FCC Chair to Seek Net Telephone Oversight Tue Oct 19, 5:08 PM ET By MARK JEWELL, AP Business Writer BOSTON - FCC (news - web sites) Chairman Michael Powell said Tuesday that he would seek broad regulatory authority for the federal government over Internet-based telephone services to avoid stifling the emerging market. Powell told a receptive audience at an industry conference that letting states regulate Voice over Internet Protocol,or VoIP, services would lead to a patchwork of conflicting rules like those which have ensnarled the traditional phone business for decades. To do so, Powell said, is to dumb down the Internet back to the limited vision of government officials. That would be a tragedy. After his speech, Powell told reporters he expected to introduce a proposal to the full Federal Communications Commission (news - web sites) in less than a month, and definitely before a new Congress begins its session in January. We cannot avoid this question any longer, he said. It is very likely that treatment of VOIP will have some of the farthest reaching consequences of anything this commission has done or will do. Powell, whose office has been petitioned by Republican members of Congress to take action on the jurisdiction question, spoke two weeks before a presidential election that could jeopardize his position as FCC chairman. The Republican was appointed to the commission by President Clinton (news - web sites) in 1997 and became chairman when President Bush (news - web sites) took office in 2001. Powell cited a study by a research firm, The Yankee Group, that projects 1 million VoIP subscribers nationwide by year's end, compared with just 131,000 last year. The technology has ignited a fire under a stalled and depressed industry, Powell said, referring to traditional landline phone carriers. Powell, who reiterated his belief in minimal regulation of VoIP services, said questions of its taxation and connectivity to 911 emergency assistance are best left to the federal government because the technology erodes geographic barriers. Such barriers have led to a complex framework of regulations governing local and long-distance service for traditional landline phones. While some issues involving voice quality and consumer accessibility remain to be worked out, VoIP service threatens to eventually overtake landline services by piggybacking on the existing, low-cost technology platform used for the Internet. There is no need to organize a regulatory regime around permits and prices and costs as we have done for nearly a century with common carriers, Powell added. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: [Fwd: WIFI in Union Square Park]
WIRED and SONY VAIO PRESENT * UNION SQUARE: UNPLUGGED* THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2004 If it rains, please join us on Thursday, October 28, 2004. 11 A.M. - 3 P.M. NORTH SIDE OF UNION SQUARE PARK (17th Street between Park Avenue South and Union Square West) New York City *CUT THE CORDS:* Join us for a mid-day escape from the ties that bind you. Groove to live music as tech-experts offer a How-To-Get-Wi-FI in the park. Grab your laptops and head to the park for this unwired WIRED/SONY VAIO event. Look for refreshments and giveaways from WIRED and SONY event staff. This event is in collaboration with the Union Square Partnership. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] measuring cellular activity?
i'm in need of a circuit/device/meter that can listen on different bands - mainly digital cellular - and output a measure of aggregate activity on that band. the goal is to build a simple device that can somewhat accurately measure how many people are talking on cell phones in the general vicinity... this will become part of a public art project. i saw the Mythbusters on TV using a microwave oven leak detector to measure power output from a cell phone. not sure if there are better ways to do it. any leads from the RF geeks on this list? thanks -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: NYTimes: Big Wi-Fi Project for Philadelphia
some details from today's NY Times looks like the Philly project is a lot more modest that the original spin - just public areas with some potential spillage into homes. $10 million for this sounds a lot more feasible. Big Wi-Fi Project for Philadelphia September 27, 2004 By BOB TEDESCHI FORGET cheese steaks, cream cheese and brotherly love. Philadelphia wants to be known as the city of laptops. The city recently announced a two-year effort to string a free wireless network across its 135 square miles, potentially giving Philadelphia an entirely new identity as the most wired - or unwired - municipality on the planet. But skeptics said this initiative, as well as similar efforts elsewhere across the United States, could also run aground on its own ambitions. In a recent survey by Jupiter Communications, 8 percent of online consumers said they had tried accessing the Web through wireless connections. About half said they had no need or desire to do so. And because many of Philadelphia's households have no computer - let alone a computer with an Internet connection - the city's numbers would fall far below those figures. Consumer interest will grow, slowly, but right now, they don't have the equipment or desire for this, said Julie Ask, a wireless analyst with Jupiter. For those considering municipal wireless projects, the big questions go beyond how quickly consumers will warm to the service. Cities and towns are also weighing whether the technology is as cheap and reliable as many perceive, and whether these projects will lure customers from local Internet providers, thereby undermining the economic benefits such initiatives are meant to provide. Philadelphia is betting its technological reputation that these concerns will not derail its ambitious plan. According to Dianah Neff, the city's chief information officer, the plan is to offer free wireless access in public areas, using Wi-Fi, the wireless fidelity standard, but free or lower-cost connections could also extend to households or businesses that qualify for economic assistance. Ms. Neff said she believed the project could be started by next June and completed a year later at a cost of $10 million, which the city would raise privately. Obviously we won't tax people, she said. But I've already had extreme interest from banking institutions interested in investing. It's a very do-able funding structure. Building a 135-square-mile hot spot to serve 1.5 million people would not be too hard, Ms. Neff suggested. The city would probably mount wireless transmitters on light poles, which it owns, to send signals throughout the area. But, she said, Philadelphia would not become a municipal Internet company. This won't be government-run, she said. Among other options, the city could pass the project to a management company, which would build and run the system in exchange for user fees. We'll look at all the pros and cons for each possible model, she said. The plan's proponents argue that wireless Internet access would benefit Philadelphia in many ways. First, Ms. Neff said, wireless connections would speed economic development in areas where businesses cannot afford to pay $800 to $1,500 monthly for high-speed T-1 lines. The wireless initiative would also improve education, Ms. Neff said, because children would have better access to information, and parents could communicate more effectively with teachers. Because more than 70 percent of the city's students qualify for economic assistance, she said, few families currently can afford to do that. The reason we won't just let the market do this is that there are societal needs that aren't inherently part of the capitalist system. We need to be sure no communities in Philadelphia are excluded, whether there's an R.O.I. or not, Ms. Neff said, using the initials for return on investment. As to whether enough Internet users are sufficiently enthusiastic about wireless technology to justify the investment, Ms. Neff pointed to a pilot test in the city's Love Park, in which 1,200 users logged on during a two-month stretch beginning in June. It was a very, very positive response, she said. Other city leaders are grappling with the question of whether to follow in Philadelphia's footsteps. I can't say why we should be investing taxpayer dollars in this, said Bill Schrier, chief technology officer for Seattle. There might be reasons. I just can't answer the question at the moment. Mr. Schrier said the city recently asked a group of private citizens to help decide whether to build a wireless network, perhaps atop Seattle's light poles. City government may be poorly suited to oversee such things as network security and customer service, he said. And with the advent of new wireless technologies like the Wi-Max standard, in which transmitters could send signals 30 miles instead of 300 feet, the city risks adopting a system destined for obsolescence. Furthermore, Mr. Schrier said, a municipal Internet initiative
[nycwireless] (free) Wireless in the City on Citysearch New York
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[nycwireless] Soekris Net4501 for sale
I have a Soekris Net4501 for sale. It has a 256 Mb Compact Flash in it (loaded with m0n0wall 1.1 beta firewall captive portal s/w), as well as a PCI wireless card. AC adapter also included as is powder blue case this would cost you almost $300 ($185 board + $9 AC + $50 CF + $50 wifi card), but i'll take $200 for it. everything has been lightly used and is in perfect working condition cash carry from my office at Houston Lafayette in SoHo. -Anthony -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] bluetooth phones?
anyone know which tmobile phones have bluetooth? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] USAToday/AP - Supporters of community wireless networks gather
NYCwireless participated in this meeting with 3 representatives - Posted 8/19/2004 4:39 AM Supporters of community wireless networks gather By Jim Paul, Associated Press URBANA, Ill. Federal regulators are working on new rules governing use of the airwaves to give more people access to high-speed Internet and other wireless technologies, and advocates for free access want to be sure their concerns aren't ignored. This weekend, community wireless network developers and technology experts from across the country plan to gather here for the first National Summit of Community Wireless Networks to share their ideas and plot strategy. Decisions are being made by policymakers (and) by regulators, and they're basing these decisions on specific information provided by major telecommunications firms. What's missing in this debate is the voice of communities, of local grass-roots groups of individual citizens, said Sascha Meinrath, an organizer of the summit and co-founder of a community wireless network in Urbana. The meeting, to be held at the University of Illinois' new Seibel Center for Computer Science, will include workshops on the latest available technology, organizing networks and information on the policy discussions in Washington. In May, the Federal Communications Commission voted to begin the lengthy rulemaking process to tap unused television airwaves to bring broadband technology to more people, particularly in underserved rural areas. Television broadcasters have worried about interference, though FCC experts say technology exists to prevent it, while companies like Intel see the possibility of new spectrum for their next-generation wireless devices and have applauded the move. Community wireless networks could benefit as well, but advocates fear being outmuscled by wealthy companies while the rules are being set. It won't be done by any one set of hands, said Jim Baller, a partner in a Washington law firm that specializes in helping community networks. There are lots of ways we can work together and I think community networks are important to achieving widespread broadband access. Community networks like Urbana's are able to bring fast Internet service to entire neighborhoods in much the same way WiFi technology is used to spread an Internet connection around an office or cafe. In Urbana, dozens of homes with rooftop antennae create the wireless network that people within in range can tap into for free with the proper equipment. The advocates want to assure similar free and unfettered wireless access when the new rules are finalized, expected this winter or spring. They argue that expanding the unlicensed spectrum would substantially narrow the digital divide by empowering local governments, civic organizations, churches and schools to make high-speed computer access available to people who otherwise couldn't afford it, creating more educational and economic opportunities. Organizers say the weekend meeting will generate ideas about what community networks need to do to become part of the policy discussion in Washington and how groups around the country can work with each other to build more and better networks. This weekend is really the first time ever that you will have technical people and the policy advocates in the same room at the same time, talking about issues they share in common, said Ben Scott, a policy analyst for Free Press, a national media reform group and co-sponsor of the conference. I think it has the potential to be really groundbreaking, he said. The Community Wireless Networking Summit has a public Web site. Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Internet News - A Virtual Work-Around for the RNC
August 27, 2004 A Virtual Work-Around for the RNC By Susan Kuchinskas http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3400821 [snip] While Wi-Fi (define) has been banned from the convention floor, delegates who venture outdoors can take advantage of free Wi-Fi provided by NYCwireless, a volunteer group constructing a network of individually owned and maintained wireless nodes. We definitely expect an increase in usage of NYCwireless nodes throughout next week, said Dana Spiegel, director of the community-based organization. NYCwireless members aren't adding nodes for the convention, but Spiegel said some of the group's free Wi-Fi nodes are easily available near the convention. Conventioneers won't be able to avoid the mob scene, but at least they can check their e-mail -- if they brought their own tech along. As for the area businesses, here's to hoping they have plenty of happily connected home-workers keeping day-to-day operations humming. Only the week will tell. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: [NEC] #3.5: The Possibility of Spectrum As A Public Good
Begin forwarded message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: August 14, 2004 4:09:30 AM GMT+09:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [NEC] #3.5: The Possibility of Spectrum As A Public Good Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] NEC @ Shirky.com, a mailing list about Networks, Economics, and Culture Published periodically / #3.5 / August 13, 2004 Subscribe at http://shirky.com/nec.html Archived at http://shirky.com Social Software weblog at http://corante.com/many/ In this issue: - Introduction - Essay: The Possibility of Spectrum as a Public Good Also at http://www.shirky.com/writings/spectrum_public_good.html - Other notes: 3G Owners Protest The FCC, CALEA, and Plan A vs. Plan B * Introduction === My apologies for a slow summer -- a surprising surge in writing for clients and an unsurprising surge in midnight diaper changes kept me away from NEC. I'm obsessed wiht two things these days -- the phone system (VoIP, mobile phones as a hackable platform, non-telco networking in phones like Bluetooth and Wifi) and mesh networking, an extension of the peer-to-peer revolution away from the PC, with little devices self-configuring in networks so that their performance _increases_ with the addition of new nodes rather than decreasing, a phenomenon David Reed calls cooperation gain. The essay here is on the former topic, being a lightly edited version of my comments on the FCC's proposed increase of unlicensed spectrum, originally posted at wirelessunleashed.com Increasing unlicensed spectrum is a _very_ big deal. For all the attention the FCC has gotten for ruling on media concentration and offensive speech, those actions were minor adjustments in existing rules. Changing the way way spectrum is regulated, by contrast, is profound, since it means abandoning one of the founding myths of the FCC -- frequency should be treated like property. We've had the engineering to upend this assumption for some time now, but a regulatory regime that has limited its application to relatively high frequncies like 2.4G, where Wifi lives. If the FCC really does transmute spectrum in the lower and more useful sub-1Ghz part of the spectrum, it will change almost every part of the media landscape, as mass media was based on the assumption that spectrum was scarce. The commercial forces that profit from the current synthetic scarcity are dead-set against any such change, of course, so there's every chance that good engineering will lose out to bad rulemaking, but hey, a girl can dream... -clay PS. I am continuing to write on the topic of social software, but am doing so in short bursts on Many-to-Many (http://corante.com/many/), as I am working out some ideas that are in pre-essay form. * Essay = The Possibility of Spectrum as a Public Good http://www.shirky.com/writings/spectrum_public_good.html The FCC is considering opening up additional spectrum to unlicensed uses -- the same kind of regulatory change that gave rise to Wifi. Much of the spectrum being considered for unlicensed use is currently allocated for broadcasters, however, so FCC's proposal creates tension between incumbents and groups that want to take advantage of the possibilities inherent in unlicensed spectrum. Most issues the FCC deals with, even contentious ones like limits on the ownership of radio and television stations, are changes within regulatory schemes. The recent proposal to move the maximum media market reach from 35% to 45% took the idea of an ownership cap itself at face value, and involved a simple change of amount. Unlicensed spectrum is different. In addition to all the regulatory complexities, an enormous philosophical change is being proposed. Transmuting spectrum from licensed to unlicensed changes what spectrum _is_. This change is possible because of advances in the engineering of wireless systems. This matters, a lot, because with the spread of unlicensed wireless, the FCC could live up to its mandate of managing spectrum on behalf of the public, by allowing for and even encouraging engineering practices that treat spectrum itself as a public good. A public good, in economic terms, is something that is best provisioned for everyone (an economic characteristic called non-excludability) and which anyone can use without depleting the resource (a characteristic called non-rival use -- individual users aren't rivals for the resource.) This transformation will be no easy task, because the proposed change differs radically from the current regulatory view of spectrum, which is two parts physics to two parts engineering. - Two Parts Physics Though the details can be arcane, the physics of spectrum is relatively simple. Spectrum, in the aggregate, is just a collection of waves, and a wave is defined by its characteristic frequency, measured by counting the
Re: [nycwireless] Re: Of no commercial value(?)
i think what they meant is that we should confine our proposal to neighborhoods that are not likely to attract commercial wireless carriers in the near- to mid-range future On Aug 8, 2004, at 4:42 PM, Rob Kelley wrote: only if its something that they can show has no commercial value (otherwise the city would get sued by the people who paid for franchises). Anthony: That's a hard one. What product of benefit to a community does not have some commercial value? Something the user couldn't afford on the open market? Something that is not currently sold in any market? Art? Can you give some general examples? Thanks, Rob -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] NYC to get cell/wifi on 18,000 lamp posts ..
NYCwireless met with the City to talk about using lamp posts. the response was that they would consider a proposal, as long as it wasn't prime real estate - there is a possibility we could get no-cost use of lampposts, but only if its something that they can show has no commercial value (otherwise the city would get sued by the people who paid for franchises). and its still not a given, but there seemed to be support. this was partly the basis of my inquiry for contacts in low-income neighborhoods. i'm envisioning a rooftop mesh with repeaters down on lampposts to cover a large district. any other interesting projects that could take advantage of these locations please step forward however, we will only present serious efforts that have dedicated people involved to the city... i don't want to blow our goodwill w/ them by proposing something and then not following through. On Aug 1, 2004, at 10:07 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: On Jul 29, 2004, at 10:50 AM, Jacob Farkas wrote: Jon, The MTA is proposing a fare hike on unlimited ride cards, taxes always seem to rise, and this proposal is a commercial effort by companies seeking to extend their own coverage area, and probably provide for pay wi-fi service. Other municipalities deemed it worthy to invest in a free wireless infrastructure in an effort to encourage and attract businesses. What never ceases to amaze me is the seemingly persistent effort by businesses looking to make a buck off of wi-fi services. WiFi (no hyphen) is just the latest move by businesses to exploit their 'location', or that their customers are trapped I don't remember the bues in NYC, but lotsa busses have ads on them, which you get to endure (read). Airports, hotels, etc are the same way. (The difference is, of course, that you paid to ride the bus, not read the ads.) If the hotels and airports could find a way, they'd charge you to use your cell phone too. Some airports have, and this is what 'Concourse Communications Group' (CCG, who are the entity who installed WiFi in the Port Athority airports (and the WTC, nuff said) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] low-income neighborhood contacts?
NYCwireless community: I'm looking for contacts in lower-income neighborhoods to talk to about doing a large-scale last mile wireless network, to provide Internet access to homes, small businesses, and non-profit organizations. Some of you may be aware that the NYC Council was discussing ways last year to use city-owned excess fiber capacity to provide this type of service. However, unknown to them, the NYPD has gone and hogged it for use in the new citywide emergency wireless network. No doubt, a good purpose, but with no spin-off benefits to the city's under-served broadband-less neighborhoods. the ideal partner is a non-profit organization that operates multiple facilities in the same neighborhood, has at least one full-time IT person, and can work with us raising money for the project. some areas we are interested in: Bronx -South Bronx Queens -Long Island City -Jamaica -Howard Beach -Far Rockaway Brooklyn -Sunset Park -Flatbush -Crown Heights -Bedford-Stuyvesant -East New York -Bushwick -Coney Island Manhattan -Harlem -Inwood -Wash Hts -Chinatown -Lower East Side (south of Delancey) there will be a separate call later for volunteers to help design and install the network. why are we doing this? to show it can be done, and to challenge ourselves technically and organizationally. also, i'm tired of unwiring places in Manhattan for rich people with laptops. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] 10 Best wireless nodes in NYC
Where is this to be published? Some of the NYCw directors were actually discussing doing an annual awards event along these lines... My favorite is actually a bar - D/B/A on 1st ave between 2nd/3rd st. ;) On Jul 8, 2004, at 9:50 AM, Yury Gitman wrote: http://www.bryantpark.org/hours-directions.php Bryant Park is a soild one, i assume it will be up during the RepubNatConvention. Unless anyone else knows anything different? Union Square is the next obvious free wifi park; but i hae to say i`ve had trouble getting onto it; am using a mac laptop; thought i knew what i was doing. http://www.downtownny.com/wireless.asp some wireless parks also, nyc is dense, there seems to be open nodes all over. remind people to also look were they are at for wifi nodes they are all over the city. there are efforts of people who live by the site putting open nodes up or pointing them toward the street. y. On Wednesday, July 07, 2004, at 07:23PM, tarikh korula [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: o wise nycwireless list, some friends are putting together a survival guide for new york during the RNC. a how to and where to that will be distributed widely and freely. among many other pieces of info, they need a list of the most dependable wireless nodes in new york. examples would be the apple store or battery park. do any of the nypl's have free wifi access? in any event, they need a list of powerful nodes that we know will be up at the end of august. do you feel like chiming in with your fave? figure anywhere below 57th street. this goes to press in a matter of days so your input is welcome. thanks! -tarikh -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ yury gitman e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ph: 646-263-5554 aim:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] 100% IPv6 in Korea by 2007
I thought this might interest people the Korean government as of 6/9/2004 under its new Ubiquitous Korea initiative, is setting the goal of 100% conversion to IPv6 by 2007. I guess they figure they are going to need IP addresses for all those networked refrigerators... http://www.lge.com/products/homenetwork/internetproduct/refrigerator/introduction.jsp This is the kind of country, too, where industry will do what the government tells it too, since I think there is a high likelihood this will happen on schedule. Anthony Townsend Fulbright Exchange Scholar Seoul Development Institute Research: http://urban.blogs.com/seoul Mobile: 016-619-9665 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: [Placelab-users] sensitivity to changes in infrastructure?
check out www.placelab.com Anthony Townsend wrote: a couple of questions... this is a very cool project, but i wonder about its sustainability given the very rapidly changing base of installed APs 1) how sensitive is PlaceLab to APs not showing up due to power off, decommission, moved, etc. ? that is, any calculations of say how many APs would have to be missing before accuracy falls off significantly? We have done experiments to measure something similar. The results are in a paper that is currently under submission. We measured how the accuracy of Place Lab would change as we reduced the amount of information that was available. We did this by dropping more and more portions of the placelab database (which is different from, but has the same effect as, turning off the corresponding APs). Our results show that in an urban area like Seattle, a drop of as much as 30% of the APs is still not enough to affect the average accuracy. example - if for some reason 10% of the APs in the placelab database are not transmitting, how does that affect average accuracy? 2) who does the initial survey? users? is there mechanism for ensuring quality/accuracy/precision? how can users be expected to do good surveys in urban environments where you need high gain GPS? We expect users to do the initial surveys or war drives. These will typically be a motivated set of users (not your average mom-and-pop). That said, the accuracy of submitted data is an issue. We have a few mechanisms in place already to catch data that is way off (either because of hardware malfunction or due to malicious behavior). We are still working on ways to identify data that is only slightly bad (say displaced by a few meters from the true location). If you have any ideas to contribute to this, we are open to discussion! 3) what happens when there are long delays between surveys? does this affect precision of location determination significantly? We do not know the answer to this yet. One of the things that has been on our back burners is a long term evaluation (say 4-6 months) of the evolution of WiFi coverage in a neighborhood, and using that to figure out how often one would need to war-drive a neighborhood. will wi-fi be around long enough for this to be a good long-run solution? (not that this makes it not worth doing, but i'm curious whether there's a long term plan) The Place Lab architecture is largely agnostic about the specifics of the beaconing technology used for location. In fact, a couple of people on the project are currently working on supporting Bluetooth and GSM beacons in Place Lab. So, even if 802.11-based WiFi isn't around for ever, as long as some ubiquitous beaconing technology exists that can uniquely identify each independent beacon, Place Lab is still relevant. Hope this answers your questions. --Yatin --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings Training. Attend Black Hat Briefings Training, Las Vegas July 24-29 - digital self defense, top technical experts, no vendor pitches, unmatched networking opportunities. Visit www.blackhat.com ___ Placelab-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/placelab-users -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Security Breaches, Congestion Found At Trade Show WLAN
is the beginning of the end for unlicensed? - http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2u=/cmp/20040625/tc_cmp/ 22101829 Mobile Pipeline News Attendees of this week's Supercomm trade show in Chicago faced a variety of wireless LAN security breaches, according to a firm that specializes in wireless security. The show also was notable for the large number of soft access points installed on the laptops of attendees. That latter problem isn't always a a security concern, but it can wreak havoc to users, according to an executive of AirDefense. People are taking control of their connectivity by purchasing software that turns their laptops into functioning access points, said Richard Rushing, chief security officer of AirDefense, said in a statement. Consequently they are creating additional confusion and interference on the already congested network. AirDefense was monitoring the airwaves at the show in conjunction with IBM, which installed the public WLAN. At times the congestion was serious -- at one point it found 117 users trying to access a single hotspot at one time. Because of that congestion, many people wound up inadvertently connecting to soft APs, which means lost connections and, potentially, security problems. Overall, AirDefense found that only 10 percent secured their connection using a virtual private network. It also monitored a number of specific potential security breaches, including 50 devices scanning the ntwork and 40 devices using spoofed MAC addresses. It also found eight hotspot hijacking sessions. However, AirDefense did not say whether those breaches were caused by demonstrations of wireless security products, as has been the case at previous trade shows with public WLANs. The company has monitored the public WLAN airwaves at a number of recent trade shows and has repeatedly found a variety of security breaches. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
Yes, but does this FCC ruling mean that any lease clauses that impose this kind of restriction are unenforceable? On Jun 29, 2004, at 1:31 AM, Tom Atkins wrote: Another way, highlighted in this article is to designate a WiFi authority for a particular chunk of real estate. I've seen this starting to happen a little more in suburban commercial leasing agreements. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] meshcube.org - the meshing community website
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Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
Could this end up in court. This probably falls under the same legal area as the FCC's crackdown on cell-phone jammers in theaters and fancy restaurants... you're just not allowed to interfere with with wireless communications anywhere, anytime unless the FCC says its ok. Contracts can often be much more restrictive than the law, but they can't contradict or pre-empt existing laws. On Jun 26, 2004, at 6:04 AM, Dustin wrote: This is great news and puts an end to the debate we have had many times as to whether or not a landlord could bar deployment of a wireless node. Does this mean that a commercial landlord cannot put a lease provision in reserving the right to control deployment of unlicensed wireless equipment? It seems for the most part landlords can stick whatever they want into a lease, especially a commercial lease. - Dustin - http://wifinetnews.com/archives/003937.html Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio The FCC says landlords, associations cant regulate Part 15 use: The FCCs Office of Engineering and Technology says that the function of regulating and coordinating frequency use is reserved to the FCC itself. Its a clear refutation of mall owners, airports, and condominium associations to limit use of Wi-Fi and other wireless technologies. (Document as Word, PDF, Text.) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] WifiNetNews: Airports Hit Brick Wall in Regulating Unlicensed Radio
this was totally different - more about opening a competitive front to cable tv and the right to put antennas on roofs of co-ops and rental apartment buildings (which you do have the inalienable right i believe) I recall there was a debate a few years ago about tenents being able to put up DTV satilites. This was ok'd. So, I cant see why they wouldn't allow you to send/recieve dtv and not allow you to send/recieve wifi or for that matter broadcast tv or radio. -Kev -- -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Re: NYC emergency wireless network
Adam, I think you're right. We need solid, redundant, reliable, low-tech solutions for emergency communications. let me take this opportunity to announce the existence of another listserv, run by me for NYU's Center for Catastrophe Preparedness and Response (http://www.nyu.edu/ccpr). CATCOMM (Catastrophe Communications) http://forums.nyu.edu/cgi-bin/nyu.pl?enter=catcomm On Jun 23, 2004, at 9:09 PM, Adam Vazquez Kb2Jpd wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] was written successfully I think they are shooting for 1) a lot more bandwidth than Ricochet ever delivered 2) a lot more users than Ricochet ever had 3) a lot more reliability than Ricochet ever had At a large event, such as another GroundZero, there will never be enough bandwidth nor cpu power for all the info requests on such an event. No mesh network would be able to take the huge amount of traffic involved in such a crisis situation. A mesh network would keel over in all the VoIP traffic alone and even then the dispatch center would be overwhelmed by all the voice traffic. Ricochet performed very well in the post recovery event. I I would use something we can use NOW than build a fictional infastructure that does not exist even in reality. I don't see any 802.11g VoIP handheld radios nor anything remotely close on the market. Lets use what is here now. but true, a billion is a lot. you'd think they could find a slightly more economical way to do it. but as long as the Homeland Security spigot is open, you can expect proposals like these to help make it flow faster into NYC. f you have been paying any attention to what just happened in Washington, Congress just shafted NYC AGAIN for Homeland Security funds. adam On Jun 21, 2004, at 11:38 AM, AdamVazquez wrote: Another refried answer. If NYC had bothered to noticed we already have the infastructure installed in the Richochet network installed in most utility poles in the city. Quite a few got pulled in the springtime annual cleaning of DOT. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] stupid question about vonage
hmm. how about from Korea? On Jun 21, 2004, at 7:10 AM, Karol Kulaga wrote: I've given up trying to fax over Vonage. I've had so many problems and their support hasn't helped a bit. That said, I'm in Oregon, so things may be different on the other side of the country. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] stupid question about vonage
not to endorse vonage either, but you wouldn't believe how good my calls to the US sound from Korea. the latency to the US is around 180-200 ms and everyone keeps saying it sounds like you're around the corner for anyone living/travelling overseas, you can't beat $15/month for unlimited calls home plus a domestic phone number. feel free to ask me for a referral! On Jun 21, 2004, at 10:05 AM, Karol Kulaga wrote: Same, but I've tried 2 fax machines and a fax modem, all have trouble. Modem speeds are worthless. I don't want to come out and say Vonage sucks! but my experience with them hasn't been the most positive. I probably would of have not changed my number over (just used them for outbound international) if I knew that I would be having so many problems. Of course Verizon will take forever and a day to reconnect pots which is why I'm keeping Vonage for my inbound. I'm not sure if they are using the incompetence of the LECs to lock in people, but that's how I view my situation. I have better quality voice over Skype btw. Vonage is cheap, but you get what you pay for. Oh, one more thing. I've had to wait for about 10-20 minutes every time I've called their support, which is on par with, shall we say, getting technical advice from someone in compusa. It's great if you like newly formed bleeding ulcers. -ktk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dustin Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [nycwireless] stupid question about vonage In my experience some fax machines are more sensitive then others. - Dustin - Karol Kulaga wrote: I've given up trying to fax over Vonage. I've had so many problems and their support hasn't helped a bit. That said, I'm in Oregon, so things may be different on the other side of the country. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gunnar Hellekson Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 11:09 AM To: Anthony Townsend Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [nycwireless] stupid question about vonage On Jun 20, 2004, at 12:03 PM, Anthony Townsend wrote: does anyone know if dialup modem /or fax works over Vonage? Fax works for sure. Based on that I assume that dialup would work, but only at around 9600. -Gunnar -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: National Summit for Community Wireless Networks -- August 20-22, 2004 -- Urbana, IL.
*** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** *** PLEASE FORWARD *** The Champaign-Urbana Community Wireless Network (CUWiN), Prairienet, and Free Press invite you to join us for a national Community Wireless Networking Summit August 20-22, 2004 in Urbana, IL. Making the Connection: The 2004 National Summit for Community Wireless Networks will focus on grassroots action, impacting national regulations and policies, and building a coalition of local groups, researchers, policy leaders, decision-makers, and community activists. It's time we organized to take the public airwaves back from corporate interests. Community Wireless Networks offer more services for cheaper prices and are owned by the communities that deploy them. Anyone interested in making the public interest the number one priority in our wireless telecommunications infrastructure should definitely attend this summit. Community Wireless Developers from across North America will be demonstrating cutting-edge technologies; researchers and programmers will discuss recent breakthroughs and developments; and policy-makers and funders will strategize with participants on how to launch new initiatives. More summit information is available online at: http://www.communitywirelesssummit.org/ Registration for the weekend-long Making the Connection Summit only costs $30 for students and low-income, $75 for all others. Register online at: http://www.communitywirelesssummit.org/register/wireless.php Have question or want to present? Send us an e-mail at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] See you in Urbana, --Sascha Meinrath Michael Brunelle Community Wireless Network Summit Co-Organizers -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Secure Wifi is the Norm for Public Hotspots inKorea
well I wasn't advocating a client app, i was just pointing out the general level of sophistication here w/r/t to wireless security. this is a carrier FORCING its customers to implement a security precaution i think its a network-specific app On Jun 15, 2004, at 4:06 AM, Ben N. Serebin wrote: Hey Anthony, I agree with Jim on this one... I would be hesitant to install an app on my computer (e.g. spyware, etc). Is a different client app needed for the various networks, or can it just be re-configured per network? -Ben -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Secure Wifi is the Norm for Public Hotspots in Korea
thought this post from my blog might interest all... Unlike most of the rest of the world, where using public Wi-Fi (even when you pay) is a use-at-your-own-risk activity w/ no link-layer encryption, in Korea the first network I tried to use -requires- you to install a small client app that sets up a secure, private connection for you. there's a screen shot as well of the splash page, but not the client because its PC-only and my Mac doesnt run Windowz http://urban.blogs.com/seoul/2004/06/secure_wireless.html -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] NYT - Where Entrepreneurs Go and the Internet Is Free
i think we've won - what's next for NYCwireless? -- June 7, 2004 Where Entrepreneurs Go and the Internet Is Free By MATT RICHTEL SAN FRANCISCO, June 6 - Linda Branagan would seem to be the ideal customer for entrepreneurs and telecommunications companies looking to make money selling wireless Internet connections. But, like thousands of business road warriors, Ms. Branagan often does not pay for the service because she gets it free. At cafes, malls and downtown business districts, there has been an explosion of Internet access points, or Wi-Fi hot spots, that let computer users log on to the Internet for free. That growth is a fundamental reason - though not the only one - that technology start-ups, investors and industry analysts who had high hopes for Wi-Fi are scrambling to find sustainable business models. Ms. Branagan, a director of a medical device research company, pays T-Mobile, a unit of Deutsche Telekom, $6 an hour for a wireless Internet connection when she is in airports if there are no free access points. But it is another matter when she is working outside the office in San Francisco. The Internet is free here, she said, as she sat doing research at The Canvas, an art gallery with a lounge and cafe setting in San Francisco's Sunset district. Why would I pay T-Mobile? she asked, when the cafe owners provide free Internet access to attract patrons. The number of Wi-Fi hot spots has grown rapidly in the last year, with as many as 15,000 in operation in public locations, according to the Yankee Group, a market research firm. But the difficulty of making a profit was made evident last month with the demise of Cometa Networks, a well-heeled Wi-Fi start-up backed by I.B.M., the Intel Corporation and the ATT Corporation. Cometa, founded in 2002 to build a network of access points at retail outlets, announced on May 19 that it would suspend operations because it was not providing a suitable return to investors. Verizon Wireless, which said last year that it would build 1,000 Wi-Fi hot spots in Manhattan, has cut that number to around 500. Meanwhile, thousands of free hot spots have been established by public agencies, mom-and-pop businesses hoping to attract customers and individuals working to build a grass-roots based network. A handful of city governments, some in cooperation with local businesses, are deploying free Wi-Fi networks in parts of Jacksonville, Fla., lower Manhattan and Portland, Ore., among other places. It's going to be hard for commercial carriers to make a profit, said Dewayne Hendricks, the chief executive of Dandin Group, a wireless Internet service provider based in Silicon Valley, who serves as technical adviser to the Federal Communications Commission on wireless Internet issues. Mr. Hendricks said the remarkable spread of free networks was forcing commercial carriers to rethink their strategies. The infrastructure is being built from the bottom up, Mr. Hendricks said, referring to a municipal and grass-roots effort to deploy wireless connections. How that plays out is potentially monumental, he said in affecting the way Internet access is provided. Each Wi-Fi hot spot has a radio transmitter and receiver that is connected to the Internet through a broadband connection like a digital subscriber line, or D.S.L. The transmitter communicates with personal computers and enables them to send information to, and receive information from, the Internet. The transmitters typically have a range of 150 to 1,000 feet, though there is new technology emerging that could send a signal over several miles. Because transmitters can be on different networks, a dozen or more hot spots can operate simultaneously in any given area, providing overlapping coverage. The connections do not interfere with each other because they are working on different radio channels. For users in big metropolitan areas like New York City and San Francisco, a free connection can almost always be found on blocks where hot spots are dense. Even so, not all companies selling Wi-Fi service are struggling. T-Mobile, for one, has a well-established and profitable business model, said Roberta Wiggins, an analyst with the Yankee Group. T-Mobile has 4,650 Wi-Fi hot spots in Kinko's, Borders Bookstores, hotels, airports and Starbucks cafes, and it is adding 35 a day, the company said. Last week, it announced plans to deploy hot-spot connections in 122 Hyatt Hotels in North America. Users pay $9.95 for single-day access, $29.99 for a monthly access to all hot spots in the network or $19.95 a month if they are customers of T-Mobile's cellphone service. The company would not disclose how many customers it has, or its revenue or profits. But Joe Sims, general manager of T-Mobile's Wi-Fi business, said, We fully expect to make money in the public hot-spot business. He noted that the company has learned some important lessons -
[nycwireless] Fwd: BBC E-mail: Wireless web gets a set of wheels
our Yury Gitman is getting famous-er every day Begin forwarded message: ** Wireless web gets a set of wheels ** A New York artist has come up with the idea of turning his bicycle into a wireless net connection. http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/technology/3726347.stm -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] yachtmama is dead
sorry for all the spam. we've booted him -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Newsweek Wireless Issue
6/7 Newsweek is a cover story on wireless world/wireless cities. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: [telecom-cities] Press Release - World Financial Center Winter Garden becomes officially Wi-Fi enabled
The Downtown Wireless Network expands again First-Ever Internet Cable Escape Marks Increased Wireless Availability Downtown Wrapped Head-to-Toe in Cat 5 Cable, Man Has Only Minutes to Escape May 27, 2004 at 11 a.m. World Financial Center Winter Garden 250 Vesey Street World Financial Center Winter Garden becomes officially Wi-Fi enabled For the first time in the history of the World Wide Web, escape artist Mario Cappello will attempt to free himself after being bound head-to-toe in an office chair in more than 400 feet of Cat 5 Internet cable. Cappello's attempt, which mirrors the efforts of millions of Americans seeking to free themselves of cords and connect wirelessly to the Internet, will officially launch the Downtown Alliance's free Lower Manhattan Wi-Fi Network. The event will take place today in the World Financial Center Winter Garden. At 11 a.m. this morning, Cappello will be wrapped in hundreds of feet of the unforgiving cable, turning him into a 21st-Century white collar mummy. Cappello has vowed to free himself in less time than it takes to be bound. Once freed Cappello will issue an email from the first wireless connection to be made from the Winter Garden. Last year, Lower Manhattan became America's leading public Wi-Fi network enabling workers, residents and visitors to connect to the Internet wirelessly, at high-speeds, free of charge. This year, the Winter Garden has been added to the network of hot spots at strategically located open spaces. The network enables Lower Manhattan residents, workers and visitors to access the Internet wirelessly from laptops and PDAs. The network is designed to enable anyone to walk to a hot spot within five minutes from any point below Chambers Street. The network also provides an innovative way to bolster area retailers and attractions. For more information, please visit www.DowntownNY.com/wireless.asp. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] The Feature - Community Wi-Fi Stays Ahead of Commercial Efforts
Community Wi-Fi Stays Ahead of Commercial Efforts By Carlo Longino, Mon May 17 23:00:00 GMT 2004 In addition to free access, community Wi-Fi groups are offering applications and features commercial providers would never dream of. NYCwireless, which manages 8 free hotspots in Lower Manhattan, is sponsoring a Community Application Prototype Contest along with NYC's Downtown Alliance. The contest is looking for prototype applications that use wireless technology to tie together the Lower Manhattan community -- something you're not likely to see at your local Starbucks hotspot. NYCwireless already offers some community features through its login portal, including links to local events, as well as an interactive map to locate restaurants, shops and other businesses near their hotspots. The Austin Wireless City Project also offers community features like chat and IM through the free Less Networks server software it uses at its hotspots. It's also working on new features like a hotspot list that will show how many users are logged on at a particular location and other information, so if a user is looking for someplace quiet to work, or someplace with a lot of activity, they can better find it. These applications come out because groups like NYCwireless and AWCP have a completely different perspective than commercial providers. They've taken making money -- commercial hotspots' main concern -- out of the equation, allowing them to focus on other priorities. Community building doesn't show up on to commercial providers' radar, because they don't see a way to make money from it. T-Mobile would never offer a hotspot list because they'd be afraid of the implications of being able to view how many (or really how few) people are on their hotspots at a given time. But a community group, unburdened by financial goals, sees the upside for users in offering such an application. It will be cool to see what comes out of the NYC contest. It should be something good, if other things like Dodgeball and PacManhattan are anything to go by. But whatever it is, it will deepen the gap between commercial and community providers. Community groups already win on price with free hotspots, and they're already offering users something above and beyond simple access. You can do more for free, or pay to do less. Which sounds like the more viable business model? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Open Park Project Launches Free Wi-Fi Service On Capitol Hill: Coverage of National Mall Planned
Open Park Project Launches Free Wi-Fi Service On Capitol Hill: Coverage of National Mall Planned Washington D.C. The Open Park Project, a Washington D.C. non-profit, launched the first public outdoor wireless Internet hotspot in the nations capital today. The free service provides coverage in front of the Supreme Court, the Library of Congress and the Capitol Visitors' Center site. The Capitol Hill hotspot is the initial step in Open Parks plan to provide free public wireless Internet service across the National Mall. Open Park is using the popular Wi-Fi technology employed in home networks and coffee shops. The groups free hotspot will give the public outside the Capitol the same quick Internet access for research, email and news that their representatives enjoy inside their offices, said Open Park's co-founder, Greg Staple, a Washington communications lawyer. Its a hotspot for democracy, said Staple.The group also announced today that it had received a significant donation of WiFi equipment and services from Tropos Networks, Inc. of San Mateo, California, a leading supplier of systems used to build metro-scale Wi-Fi networks. The donation will enable Open Park to establish a mesh of free hotspots on the Mall, beginning this Summer. By 2005, the groups goal is to create a public Wi-Fi zone from the Washington Monument to Capitol Hill that will also serve as a national test bed for new wireless applications. Washington policymakers deserve a first hand look at how quickly innovation can develop in unlicensed spectrum bands such as those used by Wi-Fi, said Kevin Werbach, a technology analyst and co-founder. From Wi-Fi phones to radio location tags to portable guides for park rangers, the possibilities are extraordinary, he added.We welcome the support of other high tech companies and individuals in implementing this vision, said Leo Cloutier, a telecommunications consultant who serves as the project's chief technical adviser and network architect. We believe that Washington deserves a state-of-the-art Wi-Fi net on the Mall. Open Park is focused on marshaling the resources necessary to provide this 21 st Century community service.To learn more about Open Parks activities, visit www.openpark.net. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] New York City Group Plans High Speed Wireless Network
He should - this project was Jordan Silbert's baby. On Apr 27, 2004, at 8:39 AM, Ben N. Serebin wrote: Hello All, This was discussed in the NY Times yesterday (or the day before). Maybe the speaker tomorrow (NYCwireless meeting tomorrow evening) will further elaborate on this. By the way, if anyone sees an ad for the NYCwireless meeting tomorrow, please let me know. I submitted a handful the meeting to a handful of weekly's and have yet to see one. http://www.nycwireless.net/nycw_newsevents.html -Ben -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 3:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [nycwireless] New York City Group Plans High Speed Wireless Network New York City Group Plans High Speed Wireless Network The Alliance for Downtown New York proposed a wireless broadband system in Lower Manhattan, which would leverage high-speed wireless technology to keep the Lower Manhattan area connected in case of an emergency. The Lower Manhattan Wireless Redundancy System would carry data and could be used for voice if necessary, says the Alliance. There is a glitch, however. The proposed network covering Lower Manhattan includes the installation of antennas and related equipment in five of the tallest office buildings in the area and carries a price tag of $10 million. The Alliance has not yet secured funding. The group says the network also could be used by small- and mid-sized business, enabling a larger chunk of the business community to access high-speed broadband services at reasonable prices. (Source: New York Times) www.wow-com.com - -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Off-Topic (anyone own or use the Toughbook W2?)
i bought one and didn't like it. feels like a little plastic toy, not real toughbook feel its semi-rugged not fully ruggedized. also pretty underpowered for the price On Apr 21, 2004, at 10:00 PM, Ben N. Serebin wrote: Hello All, A bit off-topic, but I'm looking to purchase the Panasonic Toughbook W2 and wanted to know if anyone has seen it or owns it. I have a few questions for you. Please reply off-list. Thanks, -Ben -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/ -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Re: DSL costs going up ...
ummm, wireless is another option to consider ;) On Apr 6, 2004, at 6:10 PM, Don Montalvo wrote: the faster we move to broadband over electrical lines, the better off we'll be. :) don -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] DBA bar free wi-fi
they have asign outside at DBA 1st ave between 1st and 2nd, Always free Wi-Fi at DBA free wi-fi seems to be catching on at east village bars, presumably as a way to generate some business during the daytime -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] data rates on tmobile GPRS?
just setup on os x with a motorola v300 usb data cable. only getting 20k/15k down/up from my apartment according to speakeasy speed test anyone have any better success? is there a more accurate way to test the connection speed? -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] experience w/ Motorola APs?
anyone have any experience with either the motorola WR850G (router + ap) or the WA840G (ap)? i'm having some problems with extremely long time to allocate an IP to DHCP clients (5-10 minutes sometimes) also, having lots of trouble with the WDS standalone repeating features thanks -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] architects? lamp design contest
hi all - do we have any architects out there interested in working with me on an entry for NYC's new streetlamp design competition? i want to submit a design that incorporates accommodations for wireless infrastructure. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] report: The Wireless Internet and Municipal Government
It's $89, and features a case study of NYCwireless. -- The Wireless Internet Institute is pleased to announce that the newly released report The Wireless Internet and Municipal Government is now available online. Drawing on a summit of the same name, the report addresses the range of planning, policy, and technology issues confronting municipal governments and private sector practitioners seeking to take a leadership role in developing broadband wireless infrastructures in their communities. Learn more now by visiting: http://www.w2i.org/pages/atlanta112003/wiamg_report.html In the report, experts from industry, government and the legal and regulatory environments confront key questions:Is broadband wireless a utility like water or electricity? What are key municipal wireless Internet needs and applications? How can city government build consensus among network stakeholders? How will the network be funded? Are public-private partnerships desirable for building out and managing the network? Where will revenues flow? The new report is invaluable for cities and municipal governments with a variety of motivations for bringing wireless broadband technology to city employees, residents, employers, investors, and visitors. Our technology infrastructure is just as important as our physical infrastructure, says Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin at the Municipal Government and Wireless Internet Summit. High-speed wireless connectivity available to our workforce is a must for us to remain a technology-friendly city. Learn about the report: http://www.w2i.org/pages/atlanta112003/wiamg_report.html To order the report online, please visit our online store: http://worldtimes.com/online-store/scstore/ Or Contact the Wireless Internet Institute: http://www.w2i.org/pages/contact.html W2i's new series of books and reports helps wireless Internet stakeholders around the world better understand opportunities and roadblocks for successful deployment of wireless Internet technologies. View our complete list now: http://www.w2i.org/pages/publications.html W2i is an independent think tank bringing together stakeholders around the world to accelerate the adoption of wireless Internet in support of universal connectivity for economic, social and educational development. Visit our website to learn more: http://www.w2i.org -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] alt.coffee ixnays the owerpay
i think its more about taking up real estate. On Feb 2, 2004, at 3:07 PM, Dana Spiegel wrote: This is interesting... We should try to do some digging to find out how much power is really an issue. If you are sitting with your laptop for 2 hours, how much $$$ are you costing alt.coffee in electricity? I would have expected this to be only a few cents, but perhaps this is not the case? Anyone interested in doing some research? Perhaps there are better, alternative solutions... Dana Spiegel Director, NYCwireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.nycwireless.net -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Gotham Gazette -Wireless Goes Indoors
http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/tech/20031224/19/814 Wireless Goes Indoors by Laura Forlano December, 2003 Just as New Yorkers are getting used to the idea that we can check e-mail and surf the Internet for free from Bryant Park, winter storms chased city residents and their laptops indoors until Spring. But, thanks to a number of new wireless technology projects, more and more New Yorkers have wireless access to the Internet for free indoors. The largest of these projects is run by the New York Public Library. Now, more than 50 branches are offering free wireless Internet access to anyone with a laptop or other wireless device (such as a personal digital assistant). But, the library warns, the network is not secure and staff cannot provide technical assistance. Community Access, an affordable housing non-profit agency that caters to people with psychiatric disabilities, is trying out another, albeit much smaller project. This month, 45 residents of a Community Access building on Avenue D got a new wireless network. City Councilmember Margarita Lopez, who represents the East Village, has been a strong advocate for mentally ill New Yorkers. She says of the project, I have worked with Community Access for over 25 years, and I applaud them for their efforts to give people with low-income access to technology and the advantages that it provides. The network, which started as an experiment, cost three thousand dollars for equipment and, after months of planning, took only four hours to install with the help of about a dozenNYCwireless volunteers who spent their afternoon in the Avenue D building. In preparation for the project, Dustin Goodwin and Olivia Given of NYCwireless recruited a team of volunteers who were trained in a three and a half hour session which they paid fifty dollars each to attend. The rationale for charging volunteers for the training session was to find committed, responsible volunteers who can take on additional projects in the future. This group formed the core team that will provide technical support for the Community Access project. Now, the goal is to provide more computers to the building's residents in the coming months so that they can take advantage of the network. While residents already had one shared computer prior to the installation of the wireless network, there were problems with frequent breakdowns and a lack of technical support. Community Access hopes to get computers for a quarter of the residents through donations over the next six months. Technology is the easy part, said Joshua Auerbach, a member of the Community Access Board of Directors and a Vice President at AOL Time Warner. The human side is much more difficult. Steve Coe, executive director of Community Access, believes that the project might help residents communicate and build a sense of community as well as gain access to vital job and metal health information online. Until recently, many residents were prevented from working due to financial penalties on their Medicaid benefits. But, now that they can work, they need ways to access job listings, many of which are exclusively posted online. If this project is successful, it is likely that wireless networks will be installed at other Community Access buildings in the Lower East Side, East Village, Washington Heights and Brooklyn. Another organization with its eye on providing wireless Internet access is the Lower Eastside Girls Club. The Girls Club sits right on the edge of the digital divide, between the prosperous areas of the East Village and the housing projects, said David Pentecost, a technology consultant who works with the organization. The Girls Club is planning to build a new building on Avenue D that will share wireless Internet access with the surrounding community. This project could take years to complete but the hope is that by the time the building is finished, new technologies called mesh networking will make it even easier to share Internet access. These new wireless projects are a sign of slow but significant change in the non-profit community. Currently, there is more awareness that engineers, architects and technology professionals need to work together to develop affordable housing with advanced technology.Laura Forlano is a doctoral student studying communication technology policy at Columbia University. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Happy Holidays from NYCwireless / Donations
Happy Holidays to all from the NYCwireless Board of Directors: For those seeking a last minute tax writeoff, please don't forget that donations to NYCwireless are 100% tax deductible. Your contributions will help support NYCwireless' program of events in 2004 including an exciting new list of speakers, workshops, and public exhibitions. Minimum suggested donation is $25, but contributions of all size are welcomed. Please donate online through the Network for Good at: http://www.guidestar.org/controller/searchResults.gs? action_donateReport=1partner=networkforgoodein=03-0433793 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Beyond Wi-Fi: A New Wireless Age (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 13:17:01 -0500 From: Dave Farber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IP] Beyond Wi-Fi: A New Wireless Age Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:16:37 -0800 From: Dewayne Hendricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECEMBER 15, 2003 SCIENCE TECHNOLOGY Beyond Wi-Fi: A New Wireless Age Three technologies will boost the capacity of our airwaves -- and innovation, too http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/03_50/b3862098.htm On the clear morning of June 10, Mark McHenry climbed onto the rooftop of a seven-floor office building near Washington's busy Dupont Circle. Lugging an unwieldy 10-foot antenna and a gray metal box, he and another engineer set up an experiment to measure the actual usage of airwaves above the Nation's Capital during peak business hours. They were out to debunk a popular myth: With the explosion of wireless devices, the air is nearly saturated with zinging TV, radio, cell-phone, and BlackBerry signals, right? Not to mention satellite and air-traffic-control signals, police dispatches, and mushrooming Wi-Fi networks. And yet, the duo found that even in a heavily trafficked part of the airwaves above the District of Columbia, only 19% to 40% of the spectrum was occupied at any moment during an eight-hour period. The experiment highlights a paradox that vexes the wireless industry. Although nearly all of America's best ready-to-use spectrum is rented out to tenants ranging from broadcasters to the U.S. military, most of the time, it's unused -- just vacant space. ``It's as though every operator had his own personal road to go to work instead of sharing the road,'' says McHenry, president of tech startup Shared Spectrum Co. in McLean, Va. The upshot: Wireless inventors with a new idea may not get access to the airwaves. As any of these inventors might tell you, however, momentous changes are in the air. Digital technologies have already allowed cellular operators to pack more signals into each band than they could under the old analog regime. Now, a wave of intelligent network technologies is sweeping from university and military labs into the marketplace. The innovations are known by various names, including smart antennas, mesh networks, and agile radios -- all of them sharing the same basic breakthroughs in digital signal processing. Together, they appear poised to knock down the lane dividers on the spectrum highway, which were devised about 75 years ago when federal regulators concluded that the airwaves were a scarce resource. Regulators are applauding the liberation of the spectrum -- especially after witnessing the meteoric rise of Wi-Fi. This wireless networking standard, and the ubiquitous Internet ``hot spots'' it has spawned, took off in the U.S. only because there was a swath of airwaves that regulators left open for unlicensed gadgets such as microwave ovens and garage-door openers. That's why the FCC is dismantling more fences. In mid-November, it offered up a new slice of lightly regulated frequency in the 5-gigahertz range. ``The more people who can play in the sandbox, the higher the probability of technological innovation,'' says Federal Communications Commission Chief Engineer Edmond Thomas. DUG-IN RESISTANCE Broadcasters, cell-phone carriers, and other longtime licensees of spectrum rights won't give up their exclusive hold without a fight. ``If we have to pay for spectrum and others can gain access to those very bands for free, it becomes a parity issue,'' says Brian F. Fontes, vice-president for federal relations at Cingular Wireless. Still, engineers, inventors, and their financial backers are sure to keep up pressure on the FCC to use the airwaves with greater efficiency and imagination. Together, new ideas about intelligent devices and novel network architectures will open up a wireless frontier. Here's what the engineers have in mind: Smart Antennas: When the first AM radio tower went up in 1920 at KDKA in Pittsburgh, the proud antenna on top beamed out signals 360 degrees around it. Like a pebble thrown into a pond, it sent energy indiscriminately in concentric ripples through the air. What a waste, say many engineers today. If you could throw all that energy in just the direction of the users you want to reach, the signal could travel much farther and avoid unnecessarily jamming airwaves in other directions. With a ``smart antenna,'' a narrow beam shoots a greater distance in the same way that a water hose sprays farther when the gardener puts a thumb over the nozzle. But that doesn't capture the intelligence of these systems. Wireless consultant Nitin Shah prefers the analogy of a spotlight following individual actors on a stage, as opposed to a room light that illuminates everyone. There are many approaches to such antennas under study at universities and corporate labs -- including a commercial product from San Francisco startup
[nycwireless] volunteer Graphic Designer needed
Hi - I need someone to help us design some window stickers to mark the presence of free hotspots... This should be a rather quick project with minimal time commitments... thanks -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: Using a Bicycle to Uplink on a Downtown Platform
Begin forwarded message: From: David L. Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 15, 2003 10:59:28 AM EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NYTimes.com Article: Using a Bicycle to Uplink on a Downtown Platform Using a Bicycle to Uplink on a Downtown Platform December 15, 2003 By DAVID F. GALLAGHER As a saxophone's melancholy music bounced off the tile walls of the subway station at Union Square in Manhattan last Thursday afternoon, Yury Gitman was hunched over a laptop computer, trying a different kind of performance. A thin stream of wireless Internet bandwidth was trickling down the stairs to the downtown platform of the N,R,Q and W lines, two levels below the street, and Mr. Gitman was trying to get the tenuous link to send what he said would be the first e-mail message from this deep in the New York City subway system. Mr. Gitman, an artist who is teaching a class at the Parsons School of Design in collaboration with Eyebeam, a media arts organization, intended the stunt to be a demonstration of his Magicbikes - ordinary bicycles rigged with networking gear that transforms them into wireless Internet access points, using the wireless fidelity, or Wi-Fi, technology now built into many laptops. The bikes can connect to and amplify the signals of Wi-Fi transmitters in the vicinity. Or they can tap into a cellular data network, as was the case with a Magicbike parked at the top of the subway stairs. That bike formed an impromptu network with the Magicbike on the platform with Mr. Gitman. After some snags, Mr. Gitman and his students cheered as their holiday greetings to Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg went through. Just in time, too: Magicbikes lose their magic when the batteries die, as was starting to happen. (A spokeswoman for Parsons said on Friday night that the mayor had not yet responded.) Free wireless Internet access has proven popular in Bryant Park and other public spaces in Manhattan. A few subway patrons demonstrated curiosity, but none hauled out a laptop to use the Magicbikes. Mr. Gitman insists that New Yorkers need free Internet access in the subway and everywhere else. It's a quality of life issue, he said, and the technology is cheap and easy to set up. Although ads from companies like Intel suggest that the world is blanketed in Wi-Fi signals, Mr. Gitman said, coverage is in fact still limited. He said he used bicycles because they blend into the urban fabric, and because cyclists tended to be socially conscious and politically active. The bikes are not good at allowing the use of their wireless abilities when they are in motion, but Mr. Gitman plans to put his class to work next semester solving that problem. When this project is successful, he said. people will say, 'A bicycle with Internet access - so what?' http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/15/technology/15wifi.html? ex=1072495543ei=1en=10e286fceaa93348 - -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Free Wi-Fi @ Ace Bar, Sushi restaurant
NYCwireless' philosophy of free wireless networks is really catching on this winter in the East Village. in the past two days, I've spotted two new locations that are offering free Wi-Fi. a new sushi restaurant that opened at 2nd ave 2nd street, and the Ace Bar on 5th St btwn A/B (now open from 10am featuring free wireless Internet) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] MFOP2 - cool picture mobile blogging tool
this is a must for anyone with a camera phone, or Wifi laptop and digital camera http://new.bastish.net/cgi-bin/mfop2/index.cgi basically, its an email-to-blog gateway that will post any image and comments you send to your blog for you. -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Free Wi-Fi at Dozens of NYPL Branches
I'm sure it is aimed at either libraries that didn't already have broadband, or was a digital divide type initative. The money invariably came from the library's own budget, as there's only been cutting back, not new funding from the city. On Dec 5, 2003, at 10:30 PM, Charlie Ridgway wrote: Any idea where the funding came from to do this. It is interesting that of the Manhattan libraries only one of them is in midtown or even close to midtown. It almost looks like some sort of digital divide initiative. On Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:28:32 -0500, Anthony Townsend wrote: Just in time for the snow... http://www.nypl.org/branch/services/wifi.html FREE WIRELESS COMPUTING AT THE LIBRARY You are invited to explore The New York Public Library's fast Internet network using your own Wireless-enabled laptop computer. Free access is provided in all public areas in the WiFi-enabled libraries and at all times the libraries are open. Simply launch your Web browser. Your computer's home page will appear and you may begin surfing immediately. The New York Public Library WiFi-Enabled Locations Bronx Branches Allerton, 2740 Barnes Avenue, 718-881-4240 (closed for renovation) Baychester, 2049 Asch Loop North, 718-379-6700 Belmont, 610 East 186th Street , 718-933-6410 Castle Hill, 947 Castle Hill Avenue, 718-824-3838 City Island, 320 City Island Avenue, 718-885-1703 Clason's Point, 1215 Morrison Avenue, 718-842-1235 Eastchester, 1385 East Gun Hill Road, 718-653-3292 Edenwald, 1255 East 233rd Street, 718-798-3355 Fordham Library, 2556 Bainbridge Avenue, 718-579-4244 Francis Martin, 2150 University Avenue, 718-295-5287 Grand Concourse, 155 East 173rd Street, 718-583-6611 High Bridge, 78 West 168th Street, 718-293-7800 Hunt's Point, 877 Southern Boulevard, 718-617-0338 Jerome Park, 118 Eames Place, 718-549-5200 Kingsbridge, 280 West 231st Street, 718-548-5656 Melrose, 910 Morris Avenue, 718-588-0110 Morrisania, 610 East 169th Street, 718-589-9268 Mosholu, 285 East 205th Street, 718-882-8239 Mott Haven, 321 East 140th Street, 718-665-4878 Parkchester, 1985 Westchester Avenue, 718-829-7830 (closed for renovation) Pelham Bay, 3060 Middletown Road, 718-792-6744 Riverdale, 5540 Mosholu Avenue, 718-549-1212 (closed for renovation) Sedgwick, 1701 University Avenue, 718-731-2074 Soundview, 660 Soundview Avenue, 718-589-0880 Spuyten Duyvil, 650 West 235th Street, 718-796-1202 Throg's Neck, 3025 Cross Bronx Expressway. Ext., 718-792-2612 Tremont, 1866 Washington Avenue, 718-299-5177 Van Cortlandt, 3874 Sedgwick Avenue, 718-543-5150 Van Nest, 2147 Barnes Avenue, 718-829-5864 Wakefield, 4100 Lowerre Place, 718-652-4663 Westchester Square, 2521 Glebe Avenue, 718-863-0436 West Farms, 2085 Honeywell Avenue, 718-367-5376 Woodlawn, 4355 Katonah Avenue, 718-519-9627 Woodstock, 761 East 160th Street, 718-665-6255 Manhattan Branches 115th Street, 203 West 115th Street, 212-666-9393 (closed for renovation) 125th Street, 224 East 125th Street, 212-534-5050 Aguilar, 174 East 110th Street, 212-534-2930 Chatham Square, 33 East Broadway, 212-964-6598 Countee Cullen, 104 West 136th Street, 212-491-2070 Fort Washington, 535 West 179th Street, 212-927-3533 George Bruce, 518 West 125th Street, 212-662-9727 Hamilton Grange, 503 West 145th Street (closed for renovation) Harlem, 9 West 124th Street, 212-348-5620 (closed for renovation) Hudson Park, 66 Leroy Street (at 7th Avenue, South), 212-243-6876 Inwood, 4790 Broadway, 212-942-2445 Jefferson Market, 425 Avenue of Americas (at 10th Street), 212-243-4334 Macomb's Bridge, 2650 Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. Boulevard, 212-281-4900 Mid-Manhattan Library - Fourth Floor, 455 Fifth Avenue (at 40th Street), 212-340-0833 New Amsterdam, 9 Murray Street (between Broadway and Church), 212-732-8186 Morningside Heights, 2900 Broadway (at 113th Street), 212-864-2530 Ottendorfer, 135 2nd Avenue (near East 8th Street), 212-674-0947 Seward Park, 192 East Broadway (at Jefferson Street), 212-477-6770 (closed for renovation) Washington Heights, 1000 Street Nicholas Avenue, 212-923-6054 Research Libraries Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, 515 Malcolm X Boulevard, 212-491-2200 -- NYCwireless
[nycwireless] research help needed - WiFi regulation around the world
Hi - I'm looking for people to help research the status of Wi-Fi regulation around the world. i need 3-4 people who are willing to research each of 50 or so countries. we'll use the gathered data to make a big map that will be featured on the Wireless Commons website to launch in late January/early February you'll see you name in big lights, or at least in the credits for the completed project. please contact me offlist -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Free Wi-Fi at Dozens of NYPL Branches
Just in time for the snow... http://www.nypl.org/branch/services/wifi.html FREE WIRELESS COMPUTING AT THE LIBRARY You are invited to explore The New York Public Library's fast Internet network using your own Wireless-enabled laptop computer. Free access is provided in all public areas in the WiFi-enabled libraries and at all times the libraries are open. Simply launch your Web browser. Your computer's home page will appear and you may begin surfing immediately. The New York Public Library WiFi-Enabled Locations Bronx Branches Allerton, 2740 Barnes Avenue, 718-881-4240 (closed for renovation) Baychester, 2049 Asch Loop North, 718-379-6700 Belmont, 610 East 186th Street , 718-933-6410 Castle Hill, 947 Castle Hill Avenue, 718-824-3838 City Island, 320 City Island Avenue, 718-885-1703 Clason's Point, 1215 Morrison Avenue, 718-842-1235 Eastchester, 1385 East Gun Hill Road, 718-653-3292 Edenwald, 1255 East 233rd Street, 718-798-3355 Fordham Library, 2556 Bainbridge Avenue, 718-579-4244 Francis Martin, 2150 University Avenue, 718-295-5287 Grand Concourse, 155 East 173rd Street, 718-583-6611 High Bridge, 78 West 168th Street, 718-293-7800 Hunt's Point, 877 Southern Boulevard, 718-617-0338 Jerome Park, 118 Eames Place, 718-549-5200 Kingsbridge, 280 West 231st Street, 718-548-5656 Melrose, 910 Morris Avenue, 718-588-0110 Morrisania, 610 East 169th Street, 718-589-9268 Mosholu, 285 East 205th Street, 718-882-8239 Mott Haven, 321 East 140th Street, 718-665-4878 Parkchester, 1985 Westchester Avenue, 718-829-7830 (closed for renovation) Pelham Bay, 3060 Middletown Road, 718-792-6744 Riverdale, 5540 Mosholu Avenue, 718-549-1212 (closed for renovation) Sedgwick, 1701 University Avenue, 718-731-2074 Soundview, 660 Soundview Avenue, 718-589-0880 Spuyten Duyvil, 650 West 235th Street, 718-796-1202 Throg's Neck, 3025 Cross Bronx Expressway. Ext., 718-792-2612 Tremont, 1866 Washington Avenue, 718-299-5177 Van Cortlandt, 3874 Sedgwick Avenue, 718-543-5150 Van Nest, 2147 Barnes Avenue, 718-829-5864 Wakefield, 4100 Lowerre Place, 718-652-4663 Westchester Square, 2521 Glebe Avenue, 718-863-0436 West Farms, 2085 Honeywell Avenue, 718-367-5376 Woodlawn, 4355 Katonah Avenue, 718-519-9627 Woodstock, 761 East 160th Street, 718-665-6255 Manhattan Branches 115th Street, 203 West 115th Street, 212-666-9393 (closed for renovation) 125th Street, 224 East 125th Street, 212-534-5050 Aguilar, 174 East 110th Street, 212-534-2930 Chatham Square, 33 East Broadway, 212-964-6598 Countee Cullen, 104 West 136th Street, 212-491-2070 Fort Washington, 535 West 179th Street, 212-927-3533 George Bruce, 518 West 125th Street, 212-662-9727 Hamilton Grange, 503 West 145th Street (closed for renovation) Harlem, 9 West 124th Street, 212-348-5620 (closed for renovation) Hudson Park, 66 Leroy Street (at 7th Avenue, South), 212-243-6876 Inwood, 4790 Broadway, 212-942-2445 Jefferson Market, 425 Avenue of Americas (at 10th Street), 212-243-4334 Macomb's Bridge, 2650 Adam Clayton Powell, Jr. Boulevard, 212-281-4900 Mid-Manhattan Library - Fourth Floor, 455 Fifth Avenue (at 40th Street), 212-340-0833 New Amsterdam, 9 Murray Street (between Broadway and Church), 212-732-8186 Morningside Heights, 2900 Broadway (at 113th Street), 212-864-2530 Ottendorfer, 135 2nd Avenue (near East 8th Street), 212-674-0947 Seward Park, 192 East Broadway (at Jefferson Street), 212-477-6770 (closed for renovation) Washington Heights, 1000 Street Nicholas Avenue, 212-923-6054 Research Libraries Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, 515 Malcolm X Boulevard, 212-491-2200 -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] World's biggest hotstop ...
we actually talked about 2 years ago (Terry, Marcos, and I) with the City's Dept of Info Tech and Telecom about this - they were supportive, but their hands are tied by a very complex franchising system. that said, anything that doesn't generate revenue for NYC's coffers is just not realistic at this point, what with the chronic budget crisis. that said, the Parks Dept did issue a wireless RFP this summer for some of the dining areas in city parks that proposes to award two licenses, one for a pay-as-you-go service, and one that is free or mostly free to a lot of people (a la Verizon Wi-Fi). our success was part of the reason this provision was included (the first of its kind in my knowledge). alas, there was a $5,000 or $10,000 minimum up-front deposit required to even submit a proposal, which pretty much knocked us out of the running. and the RFP was more how much will you pay us for this franchise? rather than how much will you charge us to deploy this service?, which given our limited resources pretty much knocked NYCwireless out of the running i'm sure that we'll see more of these Cerritos-style networks in cities and towns that are less bureaucratic, less attractive to hotspot operators, and have less pressing revenue problems On Dec 3, 2003, at 4:51 PM, jon baer wrote: damn ... now if only bloomberg would give *us* access to lamp posts and city property ;-) -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] Herald Square christmas tree with internet receiver
Yahoo! Sets Up Christmas Tree With Internet Receiver NOVEMBER 28TH, 2003 First cell phones, then the Internet, and now even Christmas trees are going wireless. Yahoo.com has set up a Christmas tree in Herald Square with a wireless Internet receiver on top. New Yorkers walking by with a laptop can set it down and log on via the treeís receiver. Or they can use one of the computers set up next to the tree. It's meant to help holiday shoppers compare prices. ìWhat we did was use Wi-Fi technology to provide access so anyone can come up to the tree. You can log on, you can shop on Yahoo!, you can comparison price to any of the stores here at Herald Square,î said Yahoo! marketing events director Loanne Calvert. And every shopper who logs on to the wireless tree gets an ornament with his or her name on it. Yahoo! will donate $5 to the Salvation Army on behalf of each user -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
[nycwireless] bridging?
what setup would one require to create an office WLAN from a point to point uplink? i am planning on using a Dlink DWL900AP+ w/ an external Yagi for the point to point - how should i connect it to another AP to create a hotspot? am i better off buying an AP with 2 radios? or can you cross-connect two APs in this way? this project is top help connect a non-profit art studio on the 33rd floor of the Woolworth building to Emenity's City Hall node. volunteers welcomed. thanks -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
Re: [nycwireless] Service Mapping (nycwireless)
an alternative - it would be nice to start gathering statistics on usage an NYCwireless nodes. for NoCatAuth-based nodes, we could set up a central syslog facility - then the stats could be accessed through MYSQL/PHP etc and support any number of alternative mapping/visualization experiments. Emenity has built a system like this and could help setting one up for NYCwireless. our current solution is rather awkward though - if someone wants to try and wrestle with msyslog (which has native MySQL support but almost no documentation) that would offer a much better long-term solution. reporters always ask me how many people are using NYCwireless nodes, and i tell them i have no idea. you could address privacy concerns by applying a one-way hash to MAC address as you parse the Nocat log files On Nov 19, 2003, at 3:59 PM, jon baer wrote: would doing this type of map for nycwireless nodes be a privacy concern? (or even possible) http://www.cmusky.org/map_usercentric.html - jon -- NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/ Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/ Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
