Re: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie Great River, NY Picture!!!

[Susan Herbst]

WOW!
incredible shots

On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:50 PM, david speiser wrote:

>
>
> Lloyd Spitalnik and I caught the last twenty minutes of light this  
> evening and I was able to capture a few images of the
> cooperative Dovekie.
> Please follow the link below:
> http://www.lilibirds.com/gallery2/v/recent_work/dovekie_2.jpg.html
>
> Hopefully the bird will stick for a few days.
>
> Good Birding.
>
> David Speiser
> www.lilibirds.com
>
>

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[nysbirds-l] Montauk Pt. and Great River ( Suffolk County)

[Ken Feustel]

Sue and I traveled out to Montauk Pt. this morning hoping to repeat the 
alcidfest of Sunday and perhaps snag one of the more uncommon alcids. Little 
did we know that one of the alcids we were looking for was fifteen minutes from 
our home swimming in a marina. At Montauk Point we saw little of the previous 
Razorbill extravaganza, observing only 65 individuals (a good total for most 
winters, but not this winter), an unidentified large alcid along with twelve 
Black-legged Kittiwakes. Our best bird at the Point was a Yellow-breasted Chat 
feeding in the bushes along the road by the entrance to the Money Pond Trail. 
The ocean on the south side of the Point was a sea of foam today - good for 
surfers, not for birds. Ditch Plains was a complete washout, with one or two 
Common Eider taking a beating from the pounding waves. We headed back to the 
Point (north side) around noon and found a female King Eider off the 
restaurant. In the early afternoon we received phone calls from Dave Klauber 
and Shai Mitra that a Dovekie was in the west marina at the Timber Point Golf 
Course in Great River. All this time we were looking for Dovekies on the ocean 
when we should have been searching local marinas! We cancelled all our 
scheduled stops on the way home and headed straight for Great River. Upon our 
arrival the bird was swimming adjacent to a bank of Phragmites on the west side 
of the marina. Congratulations to Ken Thompson on his great find and a new 
entry in the future edition of "Obscure Places to Find Rare Alcids on Long 
Island".

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY

[Jim Osterlund]

With able assistance from David Klauber, I mark the location thus;

40.713733,-73.147469 - Google Maps


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FW: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY

[David Klauber]

The bird was still there as of 2:45. It is ridiculously close and is probably 
the best look I have ever had of a Dovekie. It's been feeding actively at the 
north end of a channel at the western end of the park/golf course, north of the 
Marine police(?) facility which is at the southern end of the road, adjacent to 
the bay. It's been near a yellow box that has a loud electrical hum.
Great find Ken and thanks to Shai for directions 


From: k_g_thomp...@hotmail.com
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:32:17 +



This morning i found a Dovekie in the Suffolk County Timber Point Park west 
marina. The park is in Great River NY at the end of Great River rd follow the 
signs to the West and or Police marina.




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[nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY

[Ken Thompson]

This morning i found a Dovekie in the Suffolk County Timber Point Park west 
marina. The park is in Great River NY at the end of Great River rd follow the 
signs to the West and or Police marina.




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[nysbirds-l] Dovekie Ashore on Staten Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

Tom Brown and Juliette Goulet from College of Staten Island just called with 
news of a distressed Dovekie found ashore at Miller Filed, Staten 
Island--undoubtedly a victim of yesterday's storm.

A similar storm on 26-27 Dec drove a number of Dovekies ashore from 
southeastern New England to Long Island, so it would be worth checking the 
ocean shore today.

Shai Mitra
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Odd Prospect Park Shoveler

[Angus Wilson]

I took a quick look at the various photos of the enigmatic 'shoveler' from
Prospect Park in Brooklyn (Kings Co.), first brought to our attention by Rob
Jett . Links
to additional images provided by Alex Wilson were also very useful.

This is certainly an interesting ID conundrum and with waterfowl you always
have to keep an open mind. So many species are kept in private (as well as
public) collections that unfamiliar escapees are always possible, as are
hybrids that can closely resemble other species. One of the problems with
hybrids is that they can be variable but usually there are enough clues in
the details to piece things together.

With respect to the Prospect Park duck, the chief possibilities have already
been narrowed to Australian Shoveler and Northern Shoveler x Blue-winged
Teal. For the reasons given below, I think the latter is correct.

>From the photos (a poor substitute for seeing the bird in life), the head
sheen looks greenish to my eyes. This would be inconsistent with Australian
Shoveler, which should have a blue-gray gloss. In fresh plumage, the head of
males may actually appear turquoise but this quite quickly fades with wear.
I don't have any literature on the hybrid but web photos (mostly of presumed
rather than known hybrids) show a greenish sheen like the Prospect bird.

The markings on the flanks also seem to be more consistent with the N.
Shoveler x B-W Teal hybrid than an Australian Shoveler, being largely
composed of small, neat, spots. In Australian Shoveler the flanks feathers
terminate in large scallops rather than spots, especially towards the rear
of the flank. The same goes for the markings on the breast, which seem too
light (delicate) for Australian Shoveler. Again this fits the photos of
purported hybrids.

I've always been fascinated by the idea that hybrids between two species of
waterfowl sometimes look quite similar to a third species. It suggests that
the genetic basis of decorative (ornamental) plumage in male waterfowl is
relative simple meaning that only a few genes govern the general appearance
(2+2 = 4, 3+1 = 4)? I'm sure there are others on the list who can comment
more knowledgeably on this.

-- 
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New York City & The Springs, NY, USA
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[nysbirds-l] Dovekie Ashore on Staten Island

[Shaibal Mitra]

Tom Brown and Juliette Goulet from College of Staten Island just called with 
news of a distressed Dovekie found ashore at Miller Filed, Staten 
Island--undoubtedly a victim of yesterday's storm.

A similar storm on 26-27 Dec drove a number of Dovekies ashore from 
southeastern New England to Long Island, so it would be worth checking the 
ocean shore today.

Shai Mitra
bay Shore

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[nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY

[Ken Thompson]

This morning i found a Dovekie in the Suffolk County Timber Point Park west 
marina. The park is in Great River NY at the end of Great River rd follow the 
signs to the West and or Police marina.




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FW: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY

[David Klauber]

The bird was still there as of 2:45. It is ridiculously close and is probably 
the best look I have ever had of a Dovekie. It's been feeding actively at the 
north end of a channel at the western end of the park/golf course, north of the 
Marine police(?) facility which is at the southern end of the road, adjacent to 
the bay. It's been near a yellow box that has a loud electrical hum.
Great find Ken and thanks to Shai for directions 


From: k_g_thomp...@hotmail.com
To: nysbirds-l@cornell.edu
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:32:17 +



This morning i found a Dovekie in the Suffolk County Timber Point Park west 
marina. The park is in Great River NY at the end of Great River rd follow the 
signs to the West and or Police marina.




Ken Thompson Sayville NY




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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie at Great River NY

[Jim Osterlund]

With able assistance from David Klauber, I mark the location thus;

40.713733,-73.147469 - Google Maps


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Re: [nysbirds-l] Dovekie Great River, NY Picture!!!

[Susan Herbst]

WOW!
incredible shots

On Jan 26, 2010, at 9:50 PM, david speiser wrote:



 Lloyd Spitalnik and I caught the last twenty minutes of light this  
 evening and I was able to capture a few images of the
 cooperative Dovekie.
 Please follow the link below:
 http://www.lilibirds.com/gallery2/v/recent_work/dovekie_2.jpg.html

 Hopefully the bird will stick for a few days.

 Good Birding.

 David Speiser
 www.lilibirds.com



Susan Herbst
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