[obrolan-bandar] Re: Market Sideways...FULL TRICKY

2006-06-26 Thread oentoeng_q
BMRI dengan range 100 perak (1730-1630)
cukuplah MENENGGELAMKAN Day Trader ke dalam "KUBANGAN LUMPUR" hari 
ini.

Padahal Bozz kerjaannya KOCOK-KOCOKSetiap hari, Setiap Bulan, 
Setiap tahunsemakin banyak aja trader yang jadi TELUR DADAR.

Padahal BMRI bergerak NAIK dari 1520 menuju 1730 tapi  banyak telur 
dadar di mana-mana


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Halim Mintareja" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> satu lagi..
> 
> many trader.. sideways.. alias kagak gerak..
> 
> biarkan mereka bunuh-bunuhan sendiri
> 
> 
> On 6/26/06, oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >Dalam kondisi begini Para "TA Trader" DIHAJAR habis "SUPER 
TA" begitu
> > ajaran Mbah pada arsip2...
> >
> > Just "Gambling of Poker"
> > - Many Buyers...Price Going Down
> > - Many Shorters...Price Going Up
> > No one's Cut LossPrice Going Down..Down..Down
> > Ampun Bozz..
> > Hehehe.
> >
> > 
> >
>







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 




[obrolan-bandar] Re: Market Sideways...FULL TRICKY

2006-06-26 Thread edy1276
Buaya uda muncul? atau...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> BMRI dengan range 100 perak (1730-1630)
> cukuplah MENENGGELAMKAN Day Trader ke dalam "KUBANGAN LUMPUR" hari 
> ini.
> 
> Padahal Bozz kerjaannya KOCOK-KOCOKSetiap hari, Setiap Bulan, 
> Setiap tahunsemakin banyak aja trader yang jadi TELUR DADAR.
> 
> Padahal BMRI bergerak NAIK dari 1520 menuju 1730 tapi  banyak telur 
> dadar di mana-mana
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Halim Mintareja" 
>  wrote:
> >
> > satu lagi..
> > 
> > many trader.. sideways.. alias kagak gerak..
> > 
> > biarkan mereka bunuh-bunuhan sendiri
> > 
> > 
> > On 6/26/06, oentoeng_q  wrote:
> > >
> > >Dalam kondisi begini Para "TA Trader" DIHAJAR habis "SUPER 
> TA" begitu
> > > ajaran Mbah pada arsip2...
> > >
> > > Just "Gambling of Poker"
> > > - Many Buyers...Price Going Down
> > > - Many Shorters...Price Going Up
> > > No one's Cut LossPrice Going Down..Down..Down
> > > Ampun Bozz..
> > > Hehehe.
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
>






 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 




[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.

2006-06-26 Thread up_trends
INCO INCO INCO, ada yg punya berita terakhir? apa benar sudah 100% 
mau ditakeover?

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> PER bakal membesar bukan karena harga naik. Tapi laba/eps mengecil. 
Semua proyek PTBA materialised tahun 2009. Saya rasa tahun ini PTBA 
bakal sideways lama 4 bulanan. Tapi bodoh saya, kalo nggak ngumpulin 
dari sekarang. Yg dibahas orang2 hanya PLTU2 yg sahamnya dimiliki 
PTBA, itu berarti cuma 3 PLTU. Bozz sudah tahu lebih dulu ternyata 
ada tambahan 3 PLTU lagi yg dipasok. 
> 
> Halim Mintareja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:saran saja...
>
>   dulu sih waktu <3000 sangat tepat untuk beli PTBA.. apalagi waktu 
itu PGAS >12.000.. konversi PGAS ke PTBA 1:4+
>
>   Sedangkan di harga sekarang... 
>
>   PE PGAS < 20.. padahal output PGAS diharapkan tumbuh 2X di bulan 
october 06.. dan 2X lagi di bulan Agustus 07
>   Jadi PGAS diperdagangkan pada harga PE 5-7 expected earning dari 
2007.. cukup murah sekali.
>
>   Emiten lagi 
>   ASII.. PE 8-9.. padahal sales udah bottom.. tahun depan minimal 
naik 10-20%. Jadi diperdagangkan di expected PE 7 untuk 2007
>
>   Lagi..
>   TLKM... PE (operating profit) 15.. dengan grow yang stabil di 20-
30%. Kalau ditarik rata-rata 25% sampai 2009 berarti di expected PE 7-
8 untuk 2009
>
>   Belum lagi ketiga emiten tersebut membagikan deviden yang lumayan 
untuk tiap tahunnya sampai 2009
>
>   Balik lagi ke PTBA.. kalau sekarang bermain di PE 35-40 itu sama 
saja terlalu optimis... di PE 25-30 seperti sekarang udah cukup..
>
>   ngak akan kemana-mana... belum lagi kalau berita jelek mulai 
keluar.. pasti dapat tekanan sepanjang tahun... apalagi kalau asing 
mau masuk... bisa dibantai abis ke bawah.. mirip PGAS dulu yang dari 
1.300 ke 1.100 dengan berita-berita super jelek beredar mulai dari 
TV, surat kabar  radio.
>
>   Nah saran saya.. saat ini 
>   jangan tambah barang di PTBA... terlalu berat... kalau tambah 
berarti bikin kesempatan orang untuk tekan.
>   Jangan pasang BID.. bikin bandar bisa keluar aja... kalau memang 
betul-betul mau tambah hajar kanan saja.
>   Kalau ada kesempatan SOS... pindah ke 3 saham di atas. Ntar tahun 
2007 tengah balik lagi ke PTBA.. pasti kondisi sudah lebih baik.
>
> - Original Message - 
>   From: EKA SUWANDANA 
>   To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:49 PM
>   Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat 
PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.
>   
> 
>   UTK PTBA yg laba bersih akan mengecil sampai akhir tahun ini. 
PTBA PER-nya bisa bermain di atas 35-40x. Memang menakutkan. Tapi 
ingat PGAS tahun lalu PER-nya sempat dikisaran 50x. Tetap diburu dan 
ternyata sekarang terbukti, ada dikisaran belasan.
>   So PTBA asal bia tahan sampai 2008-2009 sambil melihat 
perkembangan crash program pemerintah. Bakalan seperti PGAS. Jangan 
takut tahun 2008 tahun pemilu, SBY ingin meninggalkan kenang2an PLTU 
1MW sbg legacy.
>






 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 




[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.

2006-06-26 Thread up_trends
Phelps Dodge offer for Inco equivalent of $80 a share
Could deter other bids 
View Larger Image
 Scott Hand, CEO of Inco, is trying to fend off a Teck Cominco bid. 
Photograph by : Photo by Peter Redman
Article Tools
Printer friendly
  E-mail
  Font: * * * *  Drew Hasselback and Carrie Tait, National Post
Published: Monday, June 26, 2006 
Another week -- and another round of premium price offerings for 
Canadian mining shares.

Investors will awake to news today that Phelps Dodge Corp. has 
presented the market with a two-step deal that raises the stakes in 
the pursuit of control for both Inco Ltd. and Falconbridge Ltd.

Phoenix, Ariz.-based Phelps Dodge has presented Inco's board with a 
takeover offer that values the company at the equivalent of $80 in 
cash and stock.

For Inco shareholders, the takeover would represent a 60% gain over 
the company's share price since October, when the Falconbridge merger 
was proposed.

That transaction assumes the successful completion of a sweetened 
deal to merge Inco and Falconbridge, both based in Toronto.

Falconbridge investors who hang on to those Inco shares would wind up 
receiving the equivalent of $62 a share.

That's more than double the $28 a share that Switzerland-based 
Xstrata PLC paid in August to buy a 20% stake in Falconbridge from 
Brookfield Asset Management.

A market source said yesterday that the Phelps Dodge plan could be 
rich enough to deter further bids. Inco has been fending off an 
unsolicited bid from Vancouver-based Teck Cominco Ltd. Xstrata, 
meanwhile, has tabled its own hostile bid for Falconbridge.

The battle for control of the Canadian base metals industry was 
expected to come to a head this week.

Xstrata is set to challenge Falconbridge at a hearing before the 
Ontario Securities Commission tomorrow. Inco's bid for Falconbridge 
bid was set to expire Friday.

Mining shares have performed reasonably well over the past year on 
the back of strong metals prices. Yet the takeover battles obviously 
haven't hurt valuations, either.

The fun began last August, when Brookfield decided to exit the metals 
business and sell off its stake in Falconbridge.

The buyer was Xstrata, which paid $2-billion for the 20% stake, then 
said it wanted to be something more than a minority shareholder in 
Canada's largest mining company.

Xstrata signed a nine-month agreement that would have forced it to 
top up the amount it paid to Brookfield by the difference of any 
higher bid it might have made for the remaining 80%.

That sent Falconbridge looking for a potential white knight. Inco was 
the answer, and the two companies announced a friendly merger 
proposal last October.

Combining Inco with Falconbridge would create the world's largest 
nickel miner. Inco and Falconbridge had hoped to close the 
transaction in February, but competition regulators in Europe held up 
the deal.

That pushed the timing beyond the expiry of Xstrata's standstill 
agreement with Brookfield. Once it was free and clear of its 
obligations to Brookfield, Xstrata hit the street with an all-cash 
offer of $52.50 a share for the 80% of Falconbridge it didn't already 
own.

Yet two key events took place before Xstrata launched its bid.

In early May, Teck Cominco launched an unsolicited bid for Inco. At 
Friday's close, the bid values Inco at $67.24 a share.

Just days later, Inco sweetened its offer for Falconbridge by 11%, 
bringing the implied value for Falconbridge shares to $51.17.



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "up_trends" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> INCO INCO INCO, ada yg punya berita terakhir? apa benar sudah 100% 
> mau ditakeover?
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA  
> wrote:
> >
> > PER bakal membesar bukan karena harga naik. Tapi laba/eps 
mengecil. 
> Semua proyek PTBA materialised tahun 2009. Saya rasa tahun ini PTBA 
> bakal sideways lama 4 bulanan. Tapi bodoh saya, kalo nggak 
ngumpulin 
> dari sekarang. Yg dibahas orang2 hanya PLTU2 yg sahamnya dimiliki 
> PTBA, itu berarti cuma 3 PLTU. Bozz sudah tahu lebih dulu ternyata 
> ada tambahan 3 PLTU lagi yg dipasok. 
> > 
> > Halim Mintareja  wrote:saran saja...
> >
> >   dulu sih waktu <3000 sangat tepat untuk beli PTBA.. apalagi 
waktu 
> itu PGAS >12.000.. konversi PGAS ke PTBA 1:4+
> >
> >   Sedangkan di harga sekarang... 
> >
> >   PE PGAS < 20.. padahal output PGAS diharapkan tumbuh 2X di 
bulan 
> october 06.. dan 2X lagi di bulan Agustus 07
> >   Jadi PGAS diperdagangkan pada harga PE 5-7 expected earning 
dari 
> 2007.. cukup murah sekali.
> >
> >   Emiten lagi 
> >   ASII.. PE 8-9.. padahal sales udah bottom.. tahun depan minimal 
> naik 10-20%. Jadi diperdagangkan di expected PE 7 untuk 2007
> >
> >   Lagi..
> >   TLKM... PE (operating profit) 15.. dengan grow yang stabil di 
20-
> 30%. Kalau ditarik rata-rata 25% sampai 2009 berarti di expected PE 
7-
> 8 untuk 2009
> >
> >   Belum lagi ketiga emiten tersebut membagikan

[obrolan-bandar] INCO Canada merger & take over

2006-06-26 Thread Siswa Rizali
cuma saya tetap bingung, apa pengaruhnya ke INCO Indo?

cerita lebih lengkap di: 
 Phelps Dodge, Inco and Falconbridge Agree to US$56 Billion Three-Way 
Combination, Creating One of World's Largest Mining Companies 
 26.06.2006 12:57:00 
http://finanzen.net/news/news_detail.asp?NewsNr=409180

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "up_trends" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Phelps Dodge offer for Inco equivalent of $80 a share
> Could deter other bids 
> View Larger Image
>  Scott Hand, CEO of Inco, is trying to fend off a Teck Cominco bid. 
> Photograph by : Photo by Peter Redman
> Article Tools
> Printer friendly
>   E-mail
>   Font: * * * *  Drew Hasselback and Carrie Tait, National Post
> Published: Monday, June 26, 2006 
> Another week -- and another round of premium price offerings for 
> Canadian mining shares.
> 
> Investors will awake to news today that Phelps Dodge Corp. has 
> presented the market with a two-step deal that raises the stakes in 
> the pursuit of control for both Inco Ltd. and Falconbridge Ltd.
> 
> Phoenix, Ariz.-based Phelps Dodge has presented Inco's board with a 
> takeover offer that values the company at the equivalent of $80 in 
> cash and stock.
> 
> For Inco shareholders, the takeover would represent a 60% gain over 
> the company's share price since October, when the Falconbridge 
merger 
> was proposed.
> 
> That transaction assumes the successful completion of a sweetened 
> deal to merge Inco and Falconbridge, both based in Toronto.
> 
> Falconbridge investors who hang on to those Inco shares would wind 
up 
> receiving the equivalent of $62 a share.
> 
> That's more than double the $28 a share that Switzerland-based 
> Xstrata PLC paid in August to buy a 20% stake in Falconbridge from 
> Brookfield Asset Management.
> 
> A market source said yesterday that the Phelps Dodge plan could be 
> rich enough to deter further bids. Inco has been fending off an 
> unsolicited bid from Vancouver-based Teck Cominco Ltd. Xstrata, 
> meanwhile, has tabled its own hostile bid for Falconbridge.
> 
> The battle for control of the Canadian base metals industry was 
> expected to come to a head this week.
> 
> Xstrata is set to challenge Falconbridge at a hearing before the 
> Ontario Securities Commission tomorrow. Inco's bid for Falconbridge 
> bid was set to expire Friday.
> 
> Mining shares have performed reasonably well over the past year on 
> the back of strong metals prices. Yet the takeover battles 
obviously 
> haven't hurt valuations, either.
> 
> The fun began last August, when Brookfield decided to exit the 
metals 
> business and sell off its stake in Falconbridge.
> 
> The buyer was Xstrata, which paid $2-billion for the 20% stake, 
then 
> said it wanted to be something more than a minority shareholder in 
> Canada's largest mining company.
> 
> Xstrata signed a nine-month agreement that would have forced it to 
> top up the amount it paid to Brookfield by the difference of any 
> higher bid it might have made for the remaining 80%.
> 
> That sent Falconbridge looking for a potential white knight. Inco 
was 
> the answer, and the two companies announced a friendly merger 
> proposal last October.
> 
> Combining Inco with Falconbridge would create the world's largest 
> nickel miner. Inco and Falconbridge had hoped to close the 
> transaction in February, but competition regulators in Europe held 
up 
> the deal.
> 
> That pushed the timing beyond the expiry of Xstrata's standstill 
> agreement with Brookfield. Once it was free and clear of its 
> obligations to Brookfield, Xstrata hit the street with an all-cash 
> offer of $52.50 a share for the 80% of Falconbridge it didn't 
already 
> own.
> 
> Yet two key events took place before Xstrata launched its bid.
> 
> In early May, Teck Cominco launched an unsolicited bid for Inco. At 
> Friday's close, the bid values Inco at $67.24 a share.
> 
> Just days later, Inco sweetened its offer for Falconbridge by 11%, 
> bringing the implied value for Falconbridge shares to $51.17.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "up_trends"  
> wrote:
> >
> > INCO INCO INCO, ada yg punya berita terakhir? apa benar sudah 
100% 
> > mau ditakeover?
> > 






 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Something is new at Yahoo! Groups.  Check out the enhanced email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





[obrolan-bandar] G.ratis data saham BMRI (Bank Mandiri) untuk Metastock

2006-06-26 Thread data sahamku



Bagi temen2 yang membutuhkan data saham berikut saya lampirkan data saham BMRI (Bank Mandiri) updated 23 Juni 2006. Anda bisa buka dengan software Metastock langsung tanpa harus convert/download terlebih dahulu.     Bila ada yang membutuhkan data saham sbb:  Data semua saham untuk Metastock yang saya miliki dari tahun 1993-Juni 2006.    -IHSG:  1996- Juni 2006   - LQ45:  1997- Juni 2006  - JII (Jakarta Islamic Index): 2000- Juni 2006  - Indeks sektoral (Infrastrukuture, Mining, Manufacture, Property, Trade, Finance,  Consumer Goods, Basic Industry, Agriculture, Misc Industry): 1996- Juni 2006  - DBX (second board exchange) & MBX (main board exchange): 2002- Juni 2006     Besarnya file: +/- 54 MB  -Rencananya akan saya tambahkan data Indeks Dow Jones, Nikei, Hangseng: 2000-Juni
 2006     Bisa japri saya di [EMAIL PROTECTED] / datasahamku at yahoo.com  Trimakasih..     sukses untuk anda!            sedia data harian semua saham untuk Metastockinfo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
		Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Business finance course
  
  
Business to business finance
  
  
Small business finance
  
  


Business finance consultant
  
  
Business finance magazine
  
  
Business finance schools
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___



BMRI.mwc
Description: 1150854383-BMRI.mwc


[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.

2006-06-26 Thread Deddy
possibility yes, 3mths highest was 22.300? 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Herman " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> INCO Indonesia apakah Tender Offer ?
>  
> Ada yg bisa Bantu ?
>  
> Regards
>  
> Herman
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of up_trends
> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:38 PM
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER
> membesar selama 1 tahun ini.
>  
> Phelps Dodge offer for Inco equivalent of $80 a share
> Could deter other bids 
> View Larger Image
> Scott Hand, CEO of Inco, is trying to fend off a Teck Cominco bid. 
> Photograph by : Photo by Peter Redman 
> Article Tools
> Printer friendly
> E-mail
> Font: * * * * Drew Hasselback and Carrie Tait, National Post
> Published: Monday, June 26, 2006 
> Another week -- and another round of premium price offerings for 
> Canadian mining shares.
> 
> Investors will awake to news today that Phelps Dodge Corp. has 
> presented the market with a two-step deal that raises the stakes in 
> the pursuit of control for both Inco Ltd. and Falconbridge Ltd.
> 
> Phoenix, Ariz.-based Phelps Dodge has presented Inco's board with a 
> takeover offer that values the company at the equivalent of $80 in 
> cash and stock.
> 
> For Inco shareholders, the takeover would represent a 60% gain over 
> the company's share price since October, when the Falconbridge merger 
> was proposed.
> 
> That transaction assumes the successful completion of a sweetened 
> deal to merge Inco and Falconbridge, both based in Toronto.
> 
> Falconbridge investors who hang on to those Inco shares would wind up 
> receiving the equivalent of $62 a share.
> 
> That's more than double the $28 a share that Switzerland-based 
> Xstrata PLC paid in August to buy a 20% stake in Falconbridge from 
> Brookfield Asset Management.
> 
> A market source said yesterday that the Phelps Dodge plan could be 
> rich enough to deter further bids. Inco has been fending off an 
> unsolicited bid from Vancouver-based Teck Cominco Ltd. Xstrata, 
> meanwhile, has tabled its own hostile bid for Falconbridge.
> 
> The battle for control of the Canadian base metals industry was 
> expected to come to a head this week.
> 
> Xstrata is set to challenge Falconbridge at a hearing before the 
> Ontario Securities Commission tomorrow. Inco's bid for Falconbridge 
> bid was set to expire Friday.
> 
> Mining shares have performed reasonably well over the past year on 
> the back of strong metals prices. Yet the takeover battles obviously 
> haven't hurt valuations, either.
> 
> The fun began last August, when Brookfield decided to exit the metals 
> business and sell off its stake in Falconbridge.
> 
> The buyer was Xstrata, which paid $2-billion for the 20% stake, then 
> said it wanted to be something more than a minority shareholder in 
> Canada's largest mining company.
> 
> Xstrata signed a nine-month agreement that would have forced it to 
> top up the amount it paid to Brookfield by the difference of any 
> higher bid it might have made for the remaining 80%.
> 
> That sent Falconbridge looking for a potential white knight. Inco was 
> the answer, and the two companies announced a friendly merger 
> proposal last October.
> 
> Combining Inco with Falconbridge would create the world's largest 
> nickel miner. Inco and Falconbridge had hoped to close the 
> transaction in February, but competition regulators in Europe held up 
> the deal.
> 
> That pushed the timing beyond the expiry of Xstrata's standstill 
> agreement with Brookfield. Once it was free and clear of its 
> obligations to Brookfield, Xstrata hit the street with an all-cash 
> offer of $52.50 a share for the 80% of Falconbridge it didn't already 
> own.
> 
> Yet two key events took place before Xstrata launched its bid.
> 
> In early May, Teck Cominco launched an unsolicited bid for Inco. At 
> Friday's close, the bid values Inco at $67.24 a share.
> 
> Just days later, Inco sweetened its offer for Falconbridge by 11%, 
> bringing the implied value for Falconbridge shares to $51.17.
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
> yahoogroups.com, "up_trends"  
> wrote:
> >
> > INCO INCO INCO, ada yg punya berita terakhir? apa benar sudah 100% 
> > mau ditakeover?
> > 
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ 
> yahoogroups.com, EKA SUWANDANA  
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > PER bakal membesar bukan karena harga naik. Tapi laba/eps 
> mengecil. 
> > Semua proyek PTBA materialised tahun 2009. Saya rasa tahun ini PTBA 
> > bakal sideways lama 4 bulanan. Tapi bodoh saya, kalo nggak 
> ngumpulin 
> > dari sekarang. Yg dibahas orang2 hanya PLTU2 yg sahamnya dimiliki 
> > PTBA, itu berarti cuma 3 PLTU. Bozz sudah tahu lebih dulu ternyata 
> > ada tambahan 3 PLTU lagi yg dipasok. 
> > > 
> > > Halim Mintareja  wrote: saran saja...
> > > 
> > > dulu sih waktu <3

[obrolan-bandar] Re: FOMC meeting bakal bawa efek apa ?

2006-06-26 Thread Budi Kurniawan Kumala

SEkarang kan market lagi tidak terlalu bergairah ,
karena semua traderr lagi nunggu 
keputusan FOMC tgl 29 juni 2006 mendatang, buat para
senior dan fundamentalis 
giman sharing  & skenario nya ? 

Kalau jadi dinaikkan ke 5.5  bakal gimana atau at
least 5.25  yang sudah santer kabarnya. 

Saya baca di website luar , sebenarnya pasar hanya
menunggu sentimen saja , dan akkan bereaksi 
beberapa waktu, nanti nya tetap market yang akan
mengatur bursa. soalnya ekonomi tidak bisa mendrive
bursa.
gitu katanya. 

tolong sharing nya kalau jadi naik sedikit gimana atau
kalau naek cukup signifikan gimana juga efeknya
khususnya terhadap 
bursa Indonesia. 

saya masih newbie jadi butuh masukan dari senior
senior lainnya  F.A dan T.A juga ga pa pa

tapi kalau ga ditanggapi sih gpp juga, namanya milist
bebas untuk berkomantar atau dicuekin, 
apalagi kayak aku yang namanya hamnpir gak pernah
muncul , he he he , saya sih udah biasa posting gak
ada atau yg nanggepin nya cuma 1 org saja
. Gak akan sakit hati , seperti bulan lalu , ada
anggota milist saham wanita ( di medan kalo gak salah
) yang mengundurkan diri karena merasa dicuekin alias
ngak 
ditanggapin komentarnya .  ha ha ha 
kalo saya mah biarin aja , yang penting lewat milist
ini saya bisa nimba ilmu dari rekan-rekan walau selama

ini keikutsertaan saya gak dirasakan oleh rekan-rekan
yang lain. 

Bener loh sekalian bagi pengalaman , saya ikut udah
satu tahun lebih,  dulu mah istilah-istilah yang
dipakai para senior 
banyak yang gak dimengerti, tapi lama-kelamaan, mau
ngak mau kita harus belajar mencari tahu, dan
mempelajari sesuatu yang baru kalau mau maju.
jadi saya ikuti terus perkembangan milist ini & baca2
e-book gratisan dari web . 

Hasilnya ya ini lah , trading nya masih belum ok
kadang profit kadang lebih banyak loss, dan masih
harus terus belajar. 

thx buat para virtual-consultant yang aku ngak pernah
ketemu tapi dari mereka kita bisa belajar banyak  &
menemukan hal yang baru tiap 
nerima e-mail. 

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.

2006-06-26 Thread up_trends
London - Nickel gained 2.1% in London after Phelps Dodge announced a 
$40bn buyout for two Canadian miners on Monday, suggesting that the 
company believes metals prices will stay high in the longer term, 
analysts said. 
Phelps Dodge said it would acquire Inco and Falconbridge in a deal to 
form the world's largest nickel and second largest copper producer. 

"From the price they are prepared to pay, you have to infer that 
Phelps Dodge believe that (metals) prices will stay strong. It's the 
only way they can justify these sorts of numbers," a London mining 
analyst said. 

At midday London Metal Exchange nickel prices were $400 higher at 
$19,600 a tonne. 

Copper for delivery in three months was at $6,821 a tonne, up $41 
from Friday but $2,000 below May's record peak. 

"The new company will have greater control of copper, nickel and 
molydenum production. This means they may be able to smooth out 
cyclical price variations," UBS analyst Robin Bhar said. 

"Both companies were swift to cut back production when prices were at 
their lows in 2001...they may also be able to fast track projects 
when prices rise." 

Metals prices rocketed to record highs in May, in part due to strong 
buying from investment funds, but also because of the laggardly 
response by producers to increase output. 

ABN AMRO analyst Tim Huff said of the Phelps deal: "This is a very 
smart move. By setting the bid price for Inco, they don't complicate 
Inco's bid for Falconbridge. That pins down Inco's share price and 
revalues Inco's bid for Falconbridge." 

Two rivals, Inco and Swiss-based Xstrata, have been engaged in a 
bidding war for Falconbridge, and the Phelps Dodge move gives the 
Inco bid a significant edge. 

Huff added that Phelps Dodge may have been more interested in 
securing Falconbridge's copper assets than Inco's nickel production. 

"There are a lot of companies around the world...that want to 
increase exposure in dollar-denominated production," he said 
adding: "They are strengthening their copper stable and are getting 
into diversification at the same time." 

The bulk of the Canadian companies' production is located in North 
America. 

Miners in Australia and South Africa say they have not been able to 
cash in on soaring metals prices because the dollar has fallen in 
value against their domestic currencies, so reducing profits. 

UK equity markets rose, lifted by the mining sector, led by 
Kazakhmys, as hopes for consolidation were boosted by the Phelps 
Dodge bid. 

Fed sets the tone 

Markets were thin ahead of a US Federal Reserve meeting later this 
week. Analysts expect a quarter of a percentage point rise in US 
interest rates to 5.25%, but precious metals dealers noted 
speculation the Fed might increase rates by 50 basis points. 

"It is too early to say which way metals will swing in the short 
term, but we look to US economic developments - in particular the Fed 
policy statement out on Thursday - to set the tone," Man Financial 
said in a daily note. 

Aluminium was up $23 at $2,472 a tonne from the London close, while 
zinc was up $60 at $2,920. 

In other commodities, oil inched down after signs of increased Iraqi 
production but held just below $71 a barrel, supported by growing US 
gasoline demand despite near-record prices, while gold edged up to 
$584.00/oz. 



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Deddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> possibility yes, 3mths highest was 22.300? 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Herman "  wrote:
> >
> > INCO Indonesia apakah Tender Offer ?
> >  
> > Ada yg bisa Bantu ?
> >  
> > Regards
> >  
> > Herman
> >  
> >  
> > -Original Message-
> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of up_trends
> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:38 PM
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan 
lihat PER
> > membesar selama 1 tahun ini.
> >  
> > Phelps Dodge offer for Inco equivalent of $80 a share
> > Could deter other bids 
> > View Larger Image
> > Scott Hand, CEO of Inco, is trying to fend off a Teck Cominco 
bid. 
> > Photograph by : Photo by Peter Redman 
> > Article Tools
> > Printer friendly
> > E-mail
> > Font: * * * * Drew Hasselback and Carrie Tait, National Post
> > Published: Monday, June 26, 2006 
> > Another week -- and another round of premium price offerings for 
> > Canadian mining shares.
> > 
> > Investors will awake to news today that Phelps Dodge Corp. has 
> > presented the market with a two-step deal that raises the stakes 
in 
> > the pursuit of control for both Inco Ltd. and Falconbridge Ltd.
> > 
> > Phoenix, Ariz.-based Phelps Dodge has presented Inco's board with 
a 
> > takeover offer that values the company at the equivalent of $80 
in 
> > cash and stock.
> > 
> > For Inco shareholders, the takeover would represent a 60% gain 
over 
> > the company's share price since October, when the Falconbridge 
merger 
> > was propose

[obrolan-bandar] Re: BMRI......= Mesin Pencetak Cuan

2006-06-26 Thread oentoeng_q
 
> Ini adalah PAMUNGKAS saya tentang BMRI…
> Pernah saya bilang kalau BOZZ suka "MENGUTAK ATIK" ANGKA….
> Permainan BMRI sejak dia LAHIR… sering bermain di sini:
> 60-70,  120-130, 170-180-200, 500…..
> Silahkan DIANALISA sendiri….benar tidak Elliotwave nya oentoeng 
pada 
> BMRI ini?
>
FAKTA membuktikan….

Level ….60-70
Kita bisa lihat BINAL-nya BMRI…tgl 15/6 ketika menyentuh level 1590 
(1520+70)

Level …120-130
Kita bisa lihat BINAL-nya BMRI…tgl 19/6 ketika menyentuh level 1650 
(1520+130)
Di sini memang agak UNIK karena Turun dulu baru Naik.. Tapi range 
hari ini sekitar 60 (1590-1650)

Level….170-180
Kita bisa lihat BINAL-nya BMRI…tgl 21/6 ketika menyentuh level 1690 
(1520+170)

Level…..200
Kita bisa lihat BINAL-nya BMRI kemarin…tgl 27/6 ketika menyentuh 
level 1720 (1520+200)

* Memang tidak selalu sama persis tapi bisa dibuat sebagai Guidance

Bagaimanapun kita sedang MENUNGGU BMRI menuju level +500…..
SEJARAH membuktikan bahwa BMRI saat harga 2000 (12/1/06) bisa JATUH 
PERSIS ke harga 1500 (13/3/06).
Sekarang sedang mencoba BACK to the FUTURE….

Kalau ada Trader harus "melihat dulu 30 detik" untuk tahu BMRI mau 
kemana, saya kemarin "Merem" and "Market belum Open" sudah TAKE A 
SHORT di atas level 1700. Dimana TA trader bilang Time to Buy…..

Semoga Data dan Grafik BMRI dari Pak Datasahamku yang Baik Hati bisa 
untuk membuktikan bahwa BMRI tidak se-BINAL yang dibayangkan banyak 
Trader…..
Karena BMRI memang sudah BINAL dari sononya……jadi harus dipelajari.

Semoga Tulisan ini TIDAK DIBACA Bozz…sehingga rumusnya di kemudian 
hari TIDAK DIRUBAH…
Hehehe…….
Teknik Tangan Kosong bukan hanya Omong Kosong…….

Good Luck……



>







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





[obrolan-bandar] Re: FOMC meeting bakal bawa efek apa ?

2006-06-26 Thread up_trends
sebenarnya yg paling dikhawatirkan apa fed akan menaikan int lagi di 
masa mendatang.& apakah masih akan aggresive? 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Budi Kurniawan Kumala 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> SEkarang kan market lagi tidak terlalu bergairah ,
> karena semua traderr lagi nunggu 
> keputusan FOMC tgl 29 juni 2006 mendatang, buat para
> senior dan fundamentalis 
> giman sharing  & skenario nya ? 
> 
> Kalau jadi dinaikkan ke 5.5  bakal gimana atau at
> least 5.25  yang sudah santer kabarnya. 
> 
> Saya baca di website luar , sebenarnya pasar hanya
> menunggu sentimen saja , dan akkan bereaksi 
> beberapa waktu, nanti nya tetap market yang akan
> mengatur bursa. soalnya ekonomi tidak bisa mendrive
> bursa.
> gitu katanya. 
> 
> tolong sharing nya kalau jadi naik sedikit gimana atau
> kalau naek cukup signifikan gimana juga efeknya
> khususnya terhadap 
> bursa Indonesia. 
> 
> saya masih newbie jadi butuh masukan dari senior
> senior lainnya  F.A dan T.A juga ga pa pa
> 
> tapi kalau ga ditanggapi sih gpp juga, namanya milist
> bebas untuk berkomantar atau dicuekin, 
> apalagi kayak aku yang namanya hamnpir gak pernah
> muncul , he he he , saya sih udah biasa posting gak
> ada atau yg nanggepin nya cuma 1 org saja
> . Gak akan sakit hati , seperti bulan lalu , ada
> anggota milist saham wanita ( di medan kalo gak salah
> ) yang mengundurkan diri karena merasa dicuekin alias
> ngak 
> ditanggapin komentarnya .  ha ha ha 
> kalo saya mah biarin aja , yang penting lewat milist
> ini saya bisa nimba ilmu dari rekan-rekan walau selama
> 
> ini keikutsertaan saya gak dirasakan oleh rekan-rekan
> yang lain. 
> 
> Bener loh sekalian bagi pengalaman , saya ikut udah
> satu tahun lebih,  dulu mah istilah-istilah yang
> dipakai para senior 
> banyak yang gak dimengerti, tapi lama-kelamaan, mau
> ngak mau kita harus belajar mencari tahu, dan
> mempelajari sesuatu yang baru kalau mau maju.
> jadi saya ikuti terus perkembangan milist ini & baca2
> e-book gratisan dari web . 
> 
> Hasilnya ya ini lah , trading nya masih belum ok
> kadang profit kadang lebih banyak loss, dan masih
> harus terus belajar. 
> 
> thx buat para virtual-consultant yang aku ngak pernah
> ketemu tapi dari mereka kita bisa belajar banyak  &
> menemukan hal yang baru tiap 
> nerima e-mail. 
> 
> __
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FOMC meeting bakal bawa efek apa ?

2006-06-26 Thread Odink
saat sideways, orang bijak bilang:
.. the more you trade, the more you loose ..
tunggu konfirmasi trend aja :)

On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:09:47 +0700, Budi Kurniawan Kumala  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> SEkarang kan market lagi tidak terlalu bergairah ,
> karena semua traderr lagi nunggu
> keputusan FOMC tgl 29 juni 2006 mendatang, buat para
> senior dan fundamentalis
> giman sharing  & skenario nya ?
>


 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FOMC meeting bakal bawa efek apa ?

2006-06-26 Thread Sudeswanto





bandar bola selalu menang..
duit 
bandar bola abiz itu dikemanain yah? ^^
 

  -Original Message-From: 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On 
  Behalf Of Budi Kurniawan KumalaSent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 
  9:10 AMTo: saham@yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FOMC 
  meeting bakal bawa efek apa ?
  
  SEkarang kan market lagi tidak terlalu bergairah ,karena semua 
  traderr lagi nunggu keputusan FOMC tgl 29 juni 2006 mendatang, buat 
  parasenior dan fundamentalis giman sharing & skenario nya ? 
  Kalau jadi dinaikkan ke 5.5 bakal gimana atau atleast 5.25 yang 
  sudah santer kabarnya. Saya baca di website luar , sebenarnya pasar 
  hanyamenunggu sentimen saja , dan akkan bereaksi beberapa waktu, nanti 
  nya tetap market yang akanmengatur bursa. soalnya ekonomi tidak bisa 
  mendrivebursa.gitu katanya. tolong sharing nya kalau jadi naik 
  sedikit gimana ataukalau naek cukup signifikan gimana juga 
  efeknyakhususnya terhadap bursa Indonesia. saya masih newbie 
  jadi butuh masukan dari seniorsenior lainnya F.A dan T.A juga ga pa 
  patapi kalau ga ditanggapi sih gpp juga, namanya milistbebas untuk 
  berkomantar atau dicuekin, apalagi kayak aku yang namanya hamnpir gak 
  pernahmuncul , he he he , saya sih udah biasa posting gakada atau yg 
  nanggepin nya cuma 1 org saja. Gak akan sakit hati , seperti bulan lalu , 
  adaanggota milist saham wanita ( di medan kalo gak salah) yang 
  mengundurkan diri karena merasa dicuekin aliasngak ditanggapin 
  komentarnya . ha ha ha kalo saya mah biarin aja , yang penting lewat 
  milistini saya bisa nimba ilmu dari rekan-rekan walau selamaini 
  keikutsertaan saya gak dirasakan oleh rekan-rekanyang lain. Bener 
  loh sekalian bagi pengalaman , saya ikut udahsatu tahun lebih, dulu mah 
  istilah-istilah yangdipakai para senior banyak yang gak dimengerti, 
  tapi lama-kelamaan, maungak mau kita harus belajar mencari tahu, 
  danmempelajari sesuatu yang baru kalau mau maju.jadi saya ikuti terus 
  perkembangan milist ini & baca2e-book gratisan dari web . 
  Hasilnya ya ini lah , trading nya masih belum okkadang profit 
  kadang lebih banyak loss, dan masihharus terus belajar. thx buat 
  para virtual-consultant yang aku ngak pernahketemu tapi dari mereka kita 
  bisa belajar banyak &menemukan hal yang baru tiap nerima e-mail. 
  __Do 
  You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
  http://mail.yahoo.com 
  
__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Business finance course
  
  
Business to business finance
  
  
Small business finance
  
  


Business finance consultant
  
  
Business finance magazine
  
  
Business finance schools
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___



[obrolan-bandar] Cara MENGHITUNG Transaksi YU

2006-06-26 Thread oentoeng_q
Buat Bung Up Trends...
Maaf sebelumnya saya belon sempat bales pertanyaan anda tentang Cara 
Menghitung Transaksi YU.
Mumpung ada CONTOH-nya..silahkan ANDA HITUNG SENDIRI bagaimana 
YU "LOSS" di SSIA HARI INI
Khan VOLUMEnya sedikit...jadi KONCO-KONCOnya sangat TERLIHAT!!!
Gimana HASILNYA nanti; silahkan dibagi buat yang lain

Salam






 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.

2006-06-26 Thread Karno Edy






Gw kira nickel akan tembus new high 
10++
Strong buy INCO & ANTM
 
PTBA, I don't think real PER will be 
30.
Kalo sekarang EPS nya 30 itu mah namanya EPS 
boongan, makanya yg ngga kuat nahan jual aja.
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  up_trends 
  
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:10 
  AM
  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep 
  Buying asalkan tahan lihat PER membesar selama 1 tahun ini.
  
  
  London - Nickel gained 2.1% in London after Phelps Dodge announced a 
  $40bn buyout for two Canadian miners on Monday, suggesting that the 
  company believes metals prices will stay high in the longer term, 
  analysts said. Phelps Dodge said it would acquire Inco and 
  Falconbridge in a deal to form the world's largest nickel and second 
  largest copper producer. "From the price they are prepared to pay, you 
  have to infer that Phelps Dodge believe that (metals) prices will stay 
  strong. It's the only way they can justify these sorts of numbers," a 
  London mining analyst said. At midday London Metal Exchange nickel 
  prices were $400 higher at $19,600 a tonne. Copper for delivery in 
  three months was at $6,821 a tonne, up $41 from Friday but $2,000 below 
  May's record peak. "The new company will have greater control of 
  copper, nickel and molydenum production. This means they may be able to 
  smooth out cyclical price variations," UBS analyst Robin Bhar said. 
  "Both companies were swift to cut back production when prices were at 
  their lows in 2001...they may also be able to fast track projects when 
  prices rise." Metals prices rocketed to record highs in May, in part 
  due to strong buying from investment funds, but also because of the 
  laggardly response by producers to increase output. ABN AMRO 
  analyst Tim Huff said of the Phelps deal: "This is a very smart move. By 
  setting the bid price for Inco, they don't complicate Inco's bid for 
  Falconbridge. That pins down Inco's share price and revalues Inco's bid 
  for Falconbridge." Two rivals, Inco and Swiss-based Xstrata, have 
  been engaged in a bidding war for Falconbridge, and the Phelps Dodge move 
  gives the Inco bid a significant edge. Huff added that Phelps 
  Dodge may have been more interested in securing Falconbridge's copper 
  assets than Inco's nickel production. "There are a lot of companies 
  around the world...that want to increase exposure in dollar-denominated 
  production," he said adding: "They are strengthening their copper stable 
  and are getting into diversification at the same time." The bulk 
  of the Canadian companies' production is located in North America. 
  Miners in Australia and South Africa say they have not been able to 
  cash in on soaring metals prices because the dollar has fallen in 
  value against their domestic currencies, so reducing profits. UK 
  equity markets rose, lifted by the mining sector, led by Kazakhmys, as 
  hopes for consolidation were boosted by the Phelps Dodge bid. Fed 
  sets the tone Markets were thin ahead of a US Federal Reserve meeting 
  later this week. Analysts expect a quarter of a percentage point rise in 
  US interest rates to 5.25%, but precious metals dealers noted 
  speculation the Fed might increase rates by 50 basis points. "It 
  is too early to say which way metals will swing in the short term, but we 
  look to US economic developments - in particular the Fed policy statement 
  out on Thursday - to set the tone," Man Financial said in a daily note. 
  Aluminium was up $23 at $2,472 a tonne from the London close, while 
  zinc was up $60 at $2,920. In other commodities, oil inched down 
  after signs of increased Iraqi production but held just below $71 a 
  barrel, supported by growing US gasoline demand despite near-record 
  prices, while gold edged up to $584.00/oz. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Deddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> possibility yes, 3mths 
  highest was 22.300? > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Herman "  wrote:> >> > INCO Indonesia 
  apakah Tender Offer ?> > > > Ada yg bisa Bantu ?> 
  > > > Regards> > > > Herman> > 
  > > > > -Original Message-> > From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> 
  > [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com] 
  On Behalf Of up_trends> > Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:38 
  PM> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com> 
  > Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTBA Keep Buying asalkan tahan lihat 
  PER> > membesar selama 1 tahun ini.> > > > 
  Phelps Dodge offer for Inco equivalent of $80 a share> > Could deter 
  other bids > > View Larger Image> > Scott Hand, CEO of 
  Inco, is trying to fend off a Teck Cominco bid. > > Photograph 
  by : Photo by Peter Redman > > Article Tools> > Printer 
  friendly> > E-mail> > Font: * * * * Drew Hasselback and 
  Carrie Tait, National Post> > Published: Monday, June 26, 2006 
  > > Another week -- and another round of premium price offerings for 
  > > Canadian mining shares.

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara MENGHITUNG Transaksi YU

2006-06-26 Thread www.titan
Halo Pak Oentoeng
Saya mau meminta komentar anda ttg  IPO bukopin sekitar tgl 10 July
nanti, apakah momen tsb. bagus /positip bagi Indeks kita,
soalnya biasanya pak Oentoeng ada info2 hid. agenda

terima kasih



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Buat Bung Up Trends...
> Maaf sebelumnya saya belon sempat bales pertanyaan anda tentang Cara 
> Menghitung Transaksi YU.
> Mumpung ada CONTOH-nya..silahkan ANDA HITUNG SENDIRI bagaimana 
> YU "LOSS" di SSIA HARI INI
> Khan VOLUMEnya sedikit...jadi KONCO-KONCOnya sangat TERLIHAT!!!
> Gimana HASILNYA nanti; silahkan dibagi buat yang lain
> 
> Salam
>







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Something is new at Yahoo! Groups.  Check out the enhanced email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 




[obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara MENGHITUNG Transaksi YU

2006-06-26 Thread oentoeng_q
Hai juga pak...
Masalah Bukopin memang banyak yg nanya kepada saya, semoga analisa 
saya bisa dipertimbangkan;
1. Sering TA Trader bilang; mending milih saham yg ada SEJARAH-nya 
(Grafik) jadi lebih mudah dianalisa.
2. Kalau bicara Fundamental; Tinggal Perbandingan dengan SEKTORALnya.
( Asset, NPL, dll) 
Utk perbankan saya lebih concern dengan PBV.
Masalah Perbandaran kita lihat aja "Reputasi" penjaminnya...

Tapi banyak Tanda Alam yang mengarah ke Negatif seperti Lead 
underwriter (ABN Amro) yg hengkang; padahal dia seharusnya bisa 
MENDISTRIBUSI sedemikian rupa sahamnya ke Long Term Investor (Asing);
Harga dari penawaran tertinggi menuju terendah; prosentase yg 
dikeluarkan menyusut, waktu penawaran molor,mestinya begini ini 
TIDAK DILAKUKAN seorang PROFESIONAL?

Pandangan pribadi saya: kalau memang Bukopin BAGUS, harusnya 
memberikan sentimen POSITIF kepada Sektoralnya???
Coba bayangkan kalau yg mau IPO adalah Bank Terbesar?Bank Terbaik?..?

Kalau nanyakan Planned Agenda: Sekarang BOZZ sedang BERGERILYA ke 
Pertambangan..Buktinya INCO saat ini NGAMUK!?
Semua Trader sedang nyari alasannya, tapi harga BERGERAK TERU
Dan saham pertambangan yg lain mulai SIAP2 "BREAKOUT" dari 
PERSEMAYAMANNYA...termasuk PTBA

Salam


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "www.titan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Halo Pak Oentoeng
> Saya mau meminta komentar anda ttg  IPO bukopin sekitar tgl 10 July
> nanti, apakah momen tsb. bagus /positip bagi Indeks kita,
> soalnya biasanya pak Oentoeng ada info2 hid. agenda
> 
> terima kasih
> 
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "oentoeng_q" 
> wrote:
> >
> > Buat Bung Up Trends...
> > Maaf sebelumnya saya belon sempat bales pertanyaan anda tentang 
Cara 
> > Menghitung Transaksi YU.
> > Mumpung ada CONTOH-nya..silahkan ANDA HITUNG SENDIRI bagaimana 
> > YU "LOSS" di SSIA HARI INI
> > Khan VOLUMEnya sedikit...jadi KONCO-KONCOnya sangat TERLIHAT!!!
> > Gimana HASILNYA nanti; silahkan dibagi buat yang lain
> > 
> > Salam
> >
>







 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 





Re: [obrolan-bandar] Cara MENGHITUNG Transaksi YU

2006-06-26 Thread Frederick Schubert



wuaaahahahahahahahahahaha..pak oentoeng loecoe..it's not even an apple to apple comparisoncome onbmri atau ptba volume di samplekan ke ssia...  YU beli ssia 1000 lot, trus jualan 500 lot dibandingin ama ptba and bmri yang trading volumenya lebih dari 80,000 lot.hehehehehehehe...what a mess  getting funier lagian beda pemain and beda segalanya pak  hard to guess huh..?  duh.oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Buat Bung Up Trends...Maaf sebelumnya saya belon sempat bales
 pertanyaan anda tentang Cara Menghitung Transaksi YU.Mumpung ada CONTOH-nya..silahkan ANDA HITUNG SENDIRI bagaimana YU "LOSS" di SSIA HARI INIKhan VOLUMEnya sedikit...jadi KONCO-KONCOnya sangat TERLIHAT!!!Gimana HASILNYA nanti; silahkan dibagi buat yang lainSalam 
	
		Sneak preview the  all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. 

__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Business finance course
  
  
Business to business finance
  
  
Small business finance
  
  


Business finance consultant
  
  
Business finance magazine
  
  
Business finance schools
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___



Re: [obrolan-bandar] INCO Canada merger & take over

2006-06-26 Thread Febry Hariyannugraha



Hari ini ngamuk Inco ngamuk Pak ... kayaknya pengaruh juga tuh :) 
On 6/26/06, Siswa Rizali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
cuma saya tetap bingung, apa pengaruhnya ke INCO Indo?

__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Business finance course
  
  
Business to business finance
  
  
Small business finance
  
  


Business finance consultant
  
  
Business finance magazine
  
  
Business finance schools
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___



[obrolan-bandar] FW: Limas Investor Gathering-Undangan

2006-06-26 Thread data sahamku



     Jakarta, 23 Juni 2006        Kepada Yth.  Bapak dan Ibu   Di Tempat     Perihal: Undangan Limas Investor Gathering      Dengan hormat,     PT Limas  Centric Indonesia Tbk (LMAS) akan menggelar Limas Investor Gathering, dengan tema: “Strategi Membangun dan Mengelola Portofolio Investasi yang Efisien”. Narasumber: Michael T. Tjoajadi (Director Schroder Investment Management Indonesia) dan Hendra Syamsir (Research & Development Manager PT. Limas Centric Indonesia, Tbk, Penulis Buku Solusi Investasi di Bursa Saham Indonesia)     Acara ini diperuntukan bagi para investor di pasar modal, baik individu maupun institusi.  Dalam acara tersebut antara lain akan dibahas; Apa kiat membangun portofolio investasi agar efisien dan memberikan hasil maksimal? Apa kaitan return dengan periode investasi? Dan, bagaimana mengaplikasikan rolling return, efficient frontier dan market timing?      Untuk itu, kami mengundang kehadiran Bapak/Ibu . Acara ini akan diadakan pada:         Hari / Tanggal    : Jumat, 30 Juni  2006      Waktu       : Mulai Pukul 18.00 WIB – 20.30 WIB      Tempat     : Function Room 1st Floor        Hotel Atlet Century Park     
      Pintu Satu, Senayan, Jakarta Pusat      Biaya     : Pendaftaran Rp
 250.000,- nett              termasuk coffee break & makan malam     Untuk inforrmasi dan pendaftaran, mohon mengisi lembaran di bawah dan  kirim melalui fax ke nomor (021) 5266521 atau hubungi saya di 021 526 6520 ext 270 / 0812 968 5064, email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]     Atas perhatian dan kerjasama yang baik ini, sebelumnya kami mengucapkan banyak terimakasih     Salam hormat,                   Edward Jonathan Harianja                Lembar Konfirmasi  Fax (021) 5266521      Bersedia hadir di acara Limas Investor Gathering.      Nama  :   Perusahaan:     No Hp :                         +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+sedia data harian semua saham untuk Metastockinfo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
	
		Sneak preview the  all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better. 

__._,_.___




   






  
  
SPONSORED LINKS
  
  
  

Business finance course
  
  
Business to business finance
  
  
Small business finance
  
  


Business finance consultant
  
  
Business finance magazine
  
  
Business finance schools
  
  

   
  







  
  
  YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS



   Visit your group "obrolan-bandar" on the web. 
   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.



  






__,_._,___



[obrolan-bandar] Re: Cara MENGHITUNG Transaksi YU

2006-06-26 Thread oentoeng_q
Syukurlah kalo ada yg menganggap saya pelawak...
Hihihihi
Pak frederick, la wong NGITUNG yang Lot gedhe, Bozz gedhe..kondisi 
ramekhan memang beda SEGALANYAtidak ada yg NGAKU BISA?
Ini mumpung lagi ada "model KODIAN" biar tahu CARANYA
Bagi saya bukan TAHU siapa mereka? Oentoeng atau Boentoeng? Atau yg 
lainnya...

Tapi Teknik di BMRI ama PTBA itu teknik KUNO di dunia perbandaran 
dan KELAS BAWAH walaupun dilakukan oleh KELAS ATAS.
Bagi saya prinsip2 yg mereka gunakan biar diketahui oleh yg lain 
buat BELAJAR. 
Ntar kalau Bozz gedhe MAIN pake "DORENG GOMBAL" pun masih bisa 
ngikutin...

Nah kalo Mister tahu Teknik YU di BMRI ama PTBA bagi dikiiit dong 
ILMUnya. Please
Katanya khan biar kita investor retail tidak DIGOMBALI terus...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> wuaaahahahahahahahahahaha..pak oentoeng loecoe..it's 
not even an apple to apple comparisoncome onbmri atau ptba 
volume di samplekan ke ssia...
>   YU beli ssia 1000 lot, trus jualan 500 lot dibandingin ama 
ptba and bmri yang trading volumenya lebih dari 80,000 
lot.hehehehehehehe...what a mess
>   getting funier lagian beda pemain and beda segalanya pak
>   hard to guess huh..?
>   duh.
> 
> oentoeng_q <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   Buat Bung Up Trends...
> Maaf sebelumnya saya belon sempat bales pertanyaan anda tentang 
Cara 
> Menghitung Transaksi YU.
> Mumpung ada CONTOH-nya..silahkan ANDA HITUNG SENDIRI bagaimana 
> YU "LOSS" di SSIA HARI INI
> Khan VOLUMEnya sedikit...jadi KONCO-KONCOnya sangat TERLIHAT!!!
> Gimana HASILNYA nanti; silahkan dibagi buat yang lain
> 
> Salam
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
>   
> -
> Sneak preview the  all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically 
different. Just radically better.
>






 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 
Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups.  See the new email design.
http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/zMEolB/TM
~-> 

 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/