RE: [ob] IHSG - Sesi 1

[JsxTrader]

1460 ok lah.., jangan lebih ya Bozz., ntar repot ngangkatnya lagi J

 

JT

 

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Subject: [ob] IHSG - Sesi 1

 

Value masih dibawah 1 T.., no problem so far.., preferable jika bisa
bertahan diatas 1472, tapi  koreksi sampai 1460 masih ok lah.

 

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Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Rei]

Domestic economy yg pegang peranan lah dalam mengatasi krisis...betul pak
Yuta.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:

>   Maybe too late to comment.
>
> Every region is suffering turbulences due to sharp drop in demand amids
> overly surplus. And the country who can boost demand, in this case buying
> appetite, naming Asia (China, India and Indonesia too) will be escaping from
> what so called "crisis".
>
> Rgds,
> Yuta
>
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> debt.
>
> Elaine
> **
> * On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>> Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>
>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>
>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>  *That's right!
>>
>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>
>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>> us.
>>
>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>
>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>
>>> So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
>>> to US & Europe...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>>>
   If I can summarize:

 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
 of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
 those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
 economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
 as
 SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
 viewpoint
 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
 from Asia

 That's how the recovery will work, right?

 Rgds,
 Yuta

 Powered by my VerryBerry®

 --
 *From*: Elaine Sui
 *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
 *To*: 
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 *

 "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
 and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
 You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help.
 And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
 policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
 country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
 BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)

 I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
 US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
 US
 future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
 with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)

 Elaine*


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
 jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

> Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
>
> Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI
>
> - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
> - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)
>
> El, What do you think ?.
>
> Will Indonesia, China and India market have different market
> rally compa

Re: [ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!

[Kevin Hogan]

Wah pak, saya lagi ngumpulin terus nih. Kalau bisa bilangin BD nya angkut
penumpang lagi dong. Jangan ditarik dulu yah.

2009/4/8 Thomas Frederick 

>   di IJO in today!
>
>  *Thank You! *
> **
> *ThomaS FredericK*
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 4/8/09, artomoro9 * wrote:
>
> From: artomoro9 
> Subject: [ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 1:36 AM
>
>  dear obers,
>
> apakah setelah pemilu bumi akan jadi ke 1100...?
>
> JANGAN JUAL BUMI ANDA HARI INI
>
> Mulai hari ini, MARI TAMBAH BUMI ANDA...
>
> artomoro penggemar bumi.
>
>
>  
>

Re: [ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!

[hst auto]

Dengerin baik2 info dari Pak Jendral...
kalo gak mau di tembak bandar hari ini mesti nunduk dulu nanti kalo udah
bisa lari.. jangan lupa bener2 lari yang kenceng yaah

2009/4/8 artomoro9 

>   dear obers,
>
> apakah setelah pemilu bumi akan jadi ke 1100...?
>
> JANGAN JUAL BUMI ANDA HARI INI
>
> Mulai hari ini, MARI TAMBAH BUMI ANDA...
>
> artomoro penggemar bumi.
>
>  
>

Re: [ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!

[Thomas Frederick]

di IJO in today!



Thank You! 
 
ThomaS FredericK

--- On Wed, 4/8/09, artomoro9  wrote:

From: artomoro9 
Subject: [ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 1:36 AM






dear obers,

apakah setelah pemilu bumi akan jadi ke 1100...?

JANGAN JUAL BUMI ANDA HARI INI

Mulai hari ini, MARI TAMBAH BUMI ANDA...

artomoro penggemar bumi.

















  

Re: [ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!

["::Pak_AA:":]

Y, nyangkut ni yeee

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 7:36 AM, artomoro9  wrote:
> dear obers,
>
>
> apakah setelah pemilu bumi akan jadi ke 1100...?
>
>
> JANGAN JUAL BUMI ANDA HARI INI
>
> Mulai hari ini, MARI TAMBAH BUMI ANDA...
>
>
>
>
>
> artomoro penggemar bumi.
>

Re: [ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!

[Multikartu Network]

Mo Avg Up di harga brp ? Punya di 780

2009/4/8, artomoro9 :
>
>   dear obers,
>
> apakah setelah pemilu bumi akan jadi ke 1100...?
>
> JANGAN JUAL BUMI ANDA HARI INI
>
> Mulai hari ini, MARI TAMBAH BUMI ANDA...
>
> artomoro penggemar bumi.
>
> 
>

[ob] jangan jual bumi anda..!

[artomoro9]

dear obers,


apakah setelah pemilu bumi akan jadi ke 1100...?


JANGAN JUAL BUMI ANDA HARI INI

Mulai hari ini, MARI TAMBAH BUMI ANDA...





artomoro penggemar bumi.

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[dario kurniawan]

pokoknya pemilu sukses, market terbang itu kadonya...tapi saat ini:
regional minus makin dalam karena khawatir macam2 seputar kata2 george soros, 
lapkeu 3 bulanan amerika, ditambah kita mau pemilu plus long weekend, dsb...
 
minimal selamatin harta mah buang semua margin dulu 

Dario Amran

--- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, Boys n Girls  menulis:


Dari: Boys n Girls 
Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 1:09 PM






FYI.. hmin masih hold zombie liner :D


terus terang udah punyeng lihat BC yang gerakannya kayak sopir angkot


not my style at all


rally kali ini hmin melihat kuli pelabuhan cara jalannya masih lebih punya 
aturan daripada BC.. :D





2009/4/8 Rei 







Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya berarti 
belum 100% liburan...hehehe
EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo trader 
maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...


 
2009/4/8 jsx_consultant 









Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch"  wrote:
>
> 
> Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> 
> Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
> pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
> minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
> jadi BD bisa jualan
> 
> Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi. . )
> 
> AsalCuap.Com
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> >
> > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> >
> > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > >
> > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> > > dulu lah...
> > >
> > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt. ..
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mbah,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> menuju
> > > ke utara.
> > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Mh
> > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > >
> > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > >
> > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
> perlu
> > > dana besar.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  - - --
> > > > >
> > > > > + +
> > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






















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Re: Bls: [ob] BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM

[bejwatch]

Ciri-ciri portfolio BD:
1. Dikit-dikit AR kanan (gak ada CA)
2. Dipakai untuk mengatur index
3. Walaupun FA jelek tetap naek kencang (Ngotot mode on)
4. ...
5. ...

Silahkan ditambah

CMIIW


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Asep Buhori 
wrote:
>
> Pada wkt itu bedainnya gmn mbah yg beli BD vs Retail?
>
>
>
>
> 
> Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Terkirim: Rabu, 8 April, 2009 12:07:44
> Topik: [ob] BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM
>
>
> BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM
>
> Ingat engga beberapa hari yg lalu, embah bilang BD beli INCO dan
> Retail beli ANTM.
>
> Apa efeknya ?, Pak Halim sudah menjawab pertanyaan ini.
>
> Hari ini jawabannya lebih terlihat JELAS.
>
> Kalo kita liat grafik INCO dan ANTM, terlihat TA berjalan semestinya
> meskipun lap keuangan Q4nya negatif (dua duanya naik sesuai TA)
> meskipun beda PROMOTORnya (BD vs Retail)
>
> Bedanya: Saham yg dipromotorin BD lebih bisa bertahan.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Bls: [ob] BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM

[jsx_consultant]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Asep Buhori  wrote:
>
> Pada wkt itu bedainnya gmn mbah yg beli BD vs Retail?
> 

Retail belinya KECIL KECIL NGANTRI di posisi BID, kalo BD belinya GEDE GEDE 
makan posisi OFFER.



> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dari: jsx_consultant 
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Terkirim: Rabu, 8 April, 2009 12:07:44
> Topik: [ob] BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM
> 
> 
> BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM
> 
> Ingat engga beberapa hari yg lalu, embah bilang BD beli INCO dan
> Retail beli ANTM.
> 
> Apa efeknya ?, Pak Halim sudah menjawab pertanyaan ini.
> 
> Hari ini jawabannya lebih terlihat JELAS.
> 
> Kalo kita liat grafik INCO dan ANTM, terlihat TA berjalan semestinya
> meskipun lap keuangan Q4nya negatif (dua duanya naik sesuai TA)
> meskipun beda PROMOTORnya (BD vs Retail)
> 
> Bedanya: Saham yg dipromotorin BD lebih bisa bertahan.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[t_bumi]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Abraham Sihombing"
 wrote:
>
> Itu merupakan ungkapan Rasul Paulus kepada jemaatnya di Korintus...
>
>
>
> "Pencobaan-pencobaan yang kamu alami ialah pencobaan-pencobaan biasa,
> yang tidak melebihi kekuatan manusia. Sebab Allah setia dan karena itu
> Ia tidak akan membiarkan kamu dicobai melampaui kekuatanmu. Pada waktu
> kamu dicobai Ia akan memberikan kepadamu jalan ke luar, sehingga kamu
> dapat menanggungnya." (1Kor. 10:13
>  )
>
>
>
> Sip : tbumi

Burung saja masih dipeliharaNYA, apalagi manusia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ECf7nDx28


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43EggSkluSM&feature=related

Bls: [ob] BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM

[Asep Buhori]

Pada wkt itu bedainnya gmn mbah yg beli BD vs Retail?





Dari: jsx_consultant 
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Rabu, 8 April, 2009 12:07:44
Topik: [ob] BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM


BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM

Ingat engga beberapa hari yg lalu, embah bilang BD beli INCO dan
Retail beli ANTM.

Apa efeknya ?, Pak Halim sudah menjawab pertanyaan ini.

Hari ini jawabannya lebih terlihat JELAS.

Kalo kita liat grafik INCO dan ANTM, terlihat TA berjalan semestinya
meskipun lap keuangan Q4nya negatif (dua duanya naik sesuai TA)
meskipun beda PROMOTORnya (BD vs Retail)

Bedanya: Saham yg dipromotorin BD lebih bisa bertahan.





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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Yudizz]

Ah nggak juga...
Saya trader tapi masih ada posisi 75%. Kalo udah winning position mah enak2 aja 
sih. Jangan lihat index, lihat per saham aja.

Sekarang saya lagi kejar setora nih, kayaknya kalo index beneran duduk manis di 
atas 1600 saya mau inject dana.

Happy cuan,
Yudizz

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--- original message ---
From: "Rei" 
Subject: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
Date: 8th April 2009
Time: 11:23:34 am

Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya berarti
belum 100% liburan...hehehe
EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo
trader maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...



2009/4/8 jsx_consultant 

>   Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "bejwatch"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> >
> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
> > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
> > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
> > jadi BD bisa jualan
> >
> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
> >
> > AsalCuap.Com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "jsx_consultant"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> > >
> > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> > >
> > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > > >
> > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> > > > dulu lah...
> > > >
> > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "jsx_consultant"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In 
> > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mbah,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> > menuju
> > > > ke utara.
> > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Mh
> > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
> > perlu
> > > > dana besar.
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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Boys n Girls]

FYI.. hmin masih hold zombie liner :D
terus terang udah punyeng lihat BC yang gerakannya kayak sopir angkot

not my style at all

rally kali ini hmin melihat kuli pelabuhan cara jalannya masih lebih punya
aturan daripada BC.. :D



2009/4/8 Rei 

>   Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya
> berarti belum 100% liburan...hehehe
> EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo
> trader maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...
>
>
>
> 2009/4/8 jsx_consultant 
>
>Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
>> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
>> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
>> "bejwatch"  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
>> >
>> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
>> > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
>> > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
>> > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
>> > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
>> > jadi BD bisa jualan
>> >
>> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
>> >
>> > AsalCuap.Com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> "jsx_consultant"
>> >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
>> > >
>> > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
>> > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
>> > >
>> > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
>> > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
>> > > >
>> > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
>> > > > dulu lah...
>> > > >
>> > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...
>> > > >
>> > > > Just my 2 cents
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In 
>> > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> "jsx_consultant"
>> > > >  wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
>> > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In 
>> > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
>> "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Mbah,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
>> > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
>> > menuju
>> > > > ke utara.
>> > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > Mh
>> > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
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>> > > > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
>> > > > > > To: 
>> > > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
>> > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
>> > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
>> > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Saat ini -4
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
>> > perlu
>> > > > dana besar.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
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RE: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Abraham Sihombing]

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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Syahrul Ramadhan
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 12:51 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

 

Allah, tidak akan memberi cobaan melebihi kemampuan maklukNya.

2009/4/8 edwinkdr 


BTW, pernahkan TUHAN mengijinkan bencana tanpa memberikan jalan keluar
:-)

Jika kita Yakin, tdk usah terlalu kuatir akan hari esok.
Cukup kita waspadai apa yg perlu kita waspadai :-)

Ada dalam cerita Dragon Ball Evolution:-p

http://dragonballthemovie.com/  

Dimana Go Ku...membayangkan/memimpikan hal hal buruk yg akan terjadi
saat terjadi justru dia tdk sadar kalo yg menjadi monster adalah dirinya
dalam pengaruh Raja Iblis Piccolo

Dimana akhirnya dia berbalik melawan Piccolo, dengan me-master-kan
Takdirnya...sehingga bencana itu bisa dilewatkan... :-)

Keep Rasional

KABAR ANGIN MENCIPTAKAN KELAPARAN

Pada  musim panas 1946 desas-desus tentang kelaparan melanda
sebuah provinsi di negara Amerika Latin.  Pada  hal  tanaman
tumbuh  dengan  baik, dan cuaca pun sempurna, menunggu panen
raya. Tetapi karena daya sas-sus  itu  20.000  petani  gurem
meninggaikan  sawah-ladangnya  dan lari ke kota-kota. Karena
perbuatan mereka panen gagal,  ribuan  orang  meninggal  dan
isyu kelaparan terbukti nyata.


Akhir Kata...

Semoga PEMILU 2009 ini dapat berjalan dengan lancar dan damai. :-)

Tks

Best Regards



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 , David Hartanto
 wrote:
>
> Mudah-mudahan semua bisa berjalan lancar deh Mbah, karena ada teman
saya yang katanya terima SMS kalau patung Budha yang di Aceh
mengeluarkan air mata, sama seperti pada saat terjadi Tsunami dulu.
> Yang pasti penurunan Index kita masih lebih rendah dari penurunan di
regional. Semoga disesi II bisa bertahan, siapa tau jadi hijau sendiri.
Let's all hope for the best.
>
> --- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:
>
> Dari: jsx_consultant 
> Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 
> Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:15 AM
>
>
> Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
>
> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
>
> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>
>
>






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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Syahrul Ramadhan]

Allah, tidak akan memberi cobaan melebihi kemampuan maklukNya.

2009/4/8 edwinkdr 

>
> BTW, pernahkan TUHAN mengijinkan bencana tanpa memberikan jalan keluar :-)
>
> Jika kita Yakin, tdk usah terlalu kuatir akan hari esok.
> Cukup kita waspadai apa yg perlu kita waspadai :-)
>
> Ada dalam cerita Dragon Ball Evolution:-p
>
> http://dragonballthemovie.com/
>
> Dimana Go Ku...membayangkan/memimpikan hal hal buruk yg akan terjadi
> saat terjadi justru dia tdk sadar kalo yg menjadi monster adalah dirinya
> dalam pengaruh Raja Iblis Piccolo
>
> Dimana akhirnya dia berbalik melawan Piccolo, dengan me-master-kan
> Takdirnya...sehingga bencana itu bisa dilewatkan... :-)
>
> Keep Rasional
>
> KABAR ANGIN MENCIPTAKAN KELAPARAN
>
> Pada  musim panas 1946 desas-desus tentang kelaparan melanda
> sebuah provinsi di negara Amerika Latin.  Pada  hal  tanaman
> tumbuh  dengan  baik, dan cuaca pun sempurna, menunggu panen
> raya. Tetapi karena daya sas-sus  itu  20.000  petani  gurem
> meninggaikan  sawah-ladangnya  dan lari ke kota-kota. Karena
> perbuatan mereka panen gagal,  ribuan  orang  meninggal  dan
> isyu kelaparan terbukti nyata.
>
>
> Akhir Kata...
>
> Semoga PEMILU 2009 ini dapat berjalan dengan lancar dan damai. :-)
>
> Tks
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto 
> wrote:
> >
> > Mudah-mudahan semua bisa berjalan lancar deh Mbah, karena ada teman saya
> yang katanya terima SMS kalau patung Budha yang di Aceh mengeluarkan air
> mata, sama seperti pada saat terjadi Tsunami dulu.
> > Yang pasti penurunan Index kita masih lebih rendah dari penurunan di
> regional. Semoga disesi II bisa bertahan, siapa tau jadi hijau sendiri.
> Let's all hope for the best.
> >
> > --- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:
> >
> > Dari: jsx_consultant 
> > Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:15 AM
> >
> >
> > Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> >
> > cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> >
> > dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
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To ELAINE---> [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Halim Perdana]

DEAR ELAINE,
SHOULD WE SAY BLAH TO SOROS ?



  

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[edwinkdr]

BTW, pernahkan TUHAN mengijinkan bencana tanpa memberikan jalan keluar :-)

Jika kita Yakin, tdk usah terlalu kuatir akan hari esok.
Cukup kita waspadai apa yg perlu kita waspadai :-)

Ada dalam cerita Dragon Ball Evolution:-p

http://dragonballthemovie.com/

Dimana Go Ku...membayangkan/memimpikan hal hal buruk yg akan terjadi
saat terjadi justru dia tdk sadar kalo yg menjadi monster adalah dirinya dalam 
pengaruh Raja Iblis Piccolo

Dimana akhirnya dia berbalik melawan Piccolo, dengan me-master-kan 
Takdirnya...sehingga bencana itu bisa dilewatkan... :-)

Keep Rasional

KABAR ANGIN MENCIPTAKAN KELAPARAN
 
Pada  musim panas 1946 desas-desus tentang kelaparan melanda
sebuah provinsi di negara Amerika Latin.  Pada  hal  tanaman
tumbuh  dengan  baik, dan cuaca pun sempurna, menunggu panen
raya. Tetapi karena daya sas-sus  itu  20.000  petani  gurem
meninggaikan  sawah-ladangnya  dan lari ke kota-kota. Karena
perbuatan mereka panen gagal,  ribuan  orang  meninggal  dan
isyu kelaparan terbukti nyata.


Akhir Kata...

Semoga PEMILU 2009 ini dapat berjalan dengan lancar dan damai. :-)

Tks

Best Regards



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, David Hartanto  wrote:
>
> Mudah-mudahan semua bisa berjalan lancar deh Mbah, karena ada teman saya yang 
> katanya terima SMS kalau patung Budha yang di Aceh mengeluarkan air mata, 
> sama seperti pada saat terjadi Tsunami dulu. 
> Yang pasti penurunan Index kita masih lebih rendah dari penurunan di 
> regional. Semoga disesi II bisa bertahan, siapa tau jadi hijau sendiri. Let's 
> all hope for the best. 
> 
> --- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:
> 
> Dari: jsx_consultant 
> Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:15 AM
> 
> 
> Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> 
> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> 
> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
> 
> 
> 

Re: [ob] Saham GOCAPAN bangkit dari kuburan. Semua

[Vernichtung]

Mungkin gara2 kena gertak kemaren, mau didelisting rame2 kalo pada tidur
mulu.

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Yuta Tiziano]

Maybe too late to comment. 

Every region is suffering turbulences due to sharp drop in demand amids overly 
surplus. And the country who can boost demand, in this case buying appetite, 
naming Asia (China, India and Indonesia too) will be escaping from what so 
called "crisis". 

Rgds,
Yuta

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-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


*Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.

What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.

Elaine
**
*On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>
> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>
> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> *That's right!
>
> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>
> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
> us.
>
> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>
> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>
>>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
>> to US & Europe...
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>>
>>> If I can summarize:
>>>
>>> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
>>> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
>>> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
>>> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
>>> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
>>> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as
>>> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
>>> viewpoint
>>> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
>>> from Asia
>>>
>>> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>>>
>>> Rgds,
>>> Yuta
>>>
>>> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and
>>> then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You
>>> can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And
>>> [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies
>>> of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country,
>>> effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN
>>> MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)
>>>
>>> I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
>>> US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US
>>> future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
>>> with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)
>>>
>>> Elaine*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
>>> jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:
>>>
 Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


 Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:

 http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI

 - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
 - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)

 El, What do you think ?.

 Will Indonesia, China and India market have different market
 rally compared to US market ? Will the world's indexes decouple ?.









 

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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[jkunci]

Patung Budha mengeluarkan air mata? Budha yg tlah mencapai pencerahan 
mengeluarkan air mata? Kontradiksi. 


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From: David Hartanto 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:29:41 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index


Mudah-mudahan semua bisa berjalan lancar deh Mbah, karena ada teman saya yang 
katanya terima SMS kalau patung Budha yang di Aceh mengeluarkan air mata, sama 
seperti pada saat terjadi Tsunami dulu. 
Yang pasti penurunan Index kita masih lebih rendah dari penurunan di regional. 
Semoga disesi II bisa bertahan, siapa tau jadi hijau sendiri. Let's all hope 
for the best. 

--- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:

Dari: jsx_consultant 
Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:15 AM












Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah

cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion

dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch"  wrote:

>

> 

> Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...

> 

> Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar

> (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan

> pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat

> minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua

> market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya

> jadi BD bisa jualan

> 

> Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi. . )

> 

> AsalCuap.Com

> 

> 

> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"

>  wrote:

> >

> > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.

> >

> > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail

> > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.

> >

> > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan

> > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...

> >

> >

> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..

> > >

> > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu

> > > dulu lah...

> > >

> > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt. ..

> > >

> > > Just my 2 cents

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"

> > >  wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW

> > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.

> > > >

> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mbah,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?

> > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa

> menuju

> > > ke utara.

> > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Mh

> > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

> > > > >

> > > > > -Original Message-

> > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22

> > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > BD mencoba menahan index

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat

> > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound

> > > > > dari -10 ke -1

> > > > >

> > > > > Saat ini -4

> > > > >

> > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg

> perlu

> > > dana besar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >  - - --

> > > > >

> > > > > + +

> > > > > + + + + +

> > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus

> > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.

> > > > > + + + + +

> > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>




 

  




 

















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[ob] BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM

[jsx_consultant]

BD dan TA pada case: INCO vs ANTM


Ingat engga beberapa hari yg lalu, embah bilang BD beli INCO dan
Retail beli ANTM.

Apa efeknya ?, Pak Halim sudah menjawab pertanyaan ini.

Hari ini jawabannya lebih terlihat JELAS.

Kalo kita liat grafik INCO dan ANTM, terlihat TA berjalan semestinya
meskipun lap keuangan Q4nya negatif (dua duanya naik sesuai TA)
meskipun beda PROMOTORnya (BD vs Retail)

Bedanya: Saham yg dipromotorin BD lebih bisa bertahan.

[ob] OOT - Bahaya Obat Nyamuk

[David Hartanto]

ada sekedar info, silakan diforward jika anda anggap 
penting untuk yang lain.



  







 
by Mr.D



 
 


Penulis kerja di Baygon.




 

Dari milis tetangga, semoga berguna.

 

 

 

Salam,

 

 

 

Mudah2an artikel dibawah ini bisa bermanfaat...

 

Agak ragu saya menulis artikel ini karena menyangkut pekerjaan yang saya




geluti, tapi sebagai orang yang sedikit banyak tahu saya merasa berdosa




bila tidak menyampaikannya. Silakan di forward bila perlu...

 

Seberapa sering anda memakai obat nyamuk ? Apa mereknya ? apa jenisnya?




ampuhkah ? berapa harganya ? itulah pertanyaan yang sering mucul tentang




obat nyamuk, tapi berapa banyak yang bertanya AMANKAH ?

Saya harus bilang bahwa saat ini boleh dibilang tidak ada satu pun obat




nyamuk di Indonesia yang benar2 ampuh dan AMAN.




 

Prinsip dasar yang harus dipahami semua orang ketika menggunakan obat




nyamuk adalah bahwa zat yang dipakai itu RACUN, dan tidak ada racun yang




benar2 aman. Saya sedih melihat iklan2 di TV dan media lain yang




menyesatkan. tahu iklan Baygon terbaru tentang Baygon biru yang tidak




bikin batuk or wanginya segar ? Itu iklan yang keterlaluan dan sangat




menyesatkan, karena seolah2 dengan menggunkan Baygon biru kita boleh




tetap berada di ruangan saat penyemprotan terjadi. Saya sudah protes




Intern tapi tidak serius ditanggapi.

 

Baygon mengandung 2 racun utama yaitu Propoxur dan transfluthrin.




Propoxur adalah senyawa karbamat (senyawa antaranya, MIC, pernah




menewaskan ribuan orang dan menyebabkan kerusakan syaraf ratusan ribu




orang lainnya dalam kasus Bhopal di India) yang telah dilarang




penggunaannya di luar negri karena duduga kuat sebagai zat karsinogenik




sedangkan transfluthrin relatif aman hingga saat ini.




 

Saya pernah kerja di pabrik propoxur for more than 1.5 years so I know




much about this, saya juga pernah "mabuk" propoxur karena menyentuhnya




dengan tangan yang sudah menggunakan sarung tangan... 7 hari panas




dingin gak keruan. Kalau yang lain bagaimana ?

 

HIT yang promosinya sebagai obat nyamuk ampuh dan murah memang benar




bahkan sedikit lebih ampuh dari Baygon tapi sangat berbahaya karena




bukan hanya menggunakan Propoxur tapi juga DDVP atau dichlorvos.. . zat




turunan chlorine yang sejak puluhan tahun dilarang penggunaannya di




dunia. Murah tapi berbahaya, pilih mana?

 

Sedangkan obat nyamuk lain seperti Baygon tutup hijau, Vape, Raid dan




Mortein memang non propoxur dan non DDVP tapi keampuhannya sangat




diragukan, mereka hanya efektif melawan nyamnuk Aedes tapi berantakan




saat melawan nyamuk Culex sp (ini nyamuk malam yang sering gangguin




kita).

 

Wangi pada obat nyamuk aerosol maupun semprot semestinya justru menjadi




indikasi bahwa kita tidak boleh berada diruangan tsb selama bau masih




tercium, kurang lebih selama 1 jam




 

Obat nyamuk tipe lain bagaimana ? Sama saja, obat nyamuk bakar jelas




menghasilkan asap dan racun, jenis electrik pun tetap menghasilkan racun




(HIT bahkan menggunakan propoxur untuk obat nyamuk elektiknya).

Penggunanaan obat nyamuk dengan cara dibakar atau dengan listrik harus




dalam ruangan dengan sirkulasi udara yang baik, tidak boleh dalam




ruangan tertutup karena racun dan asap yang dihasilkan akan mengurangi




proporsi kandungan oksigen dalam ruangan.

 

Kalau reppelent atau penolak nyamuk seperti Autan, sari Puspa/Soffell,




atau Lavender gimana ? For your info : Ketiganya mengandung racun




bernama Diethyltoluamide atau DEET.




 

DEET ini sangat korosif, Autan tidak dapat disimpan dalam wadah plastik




PVC atau besi karena dalam hitungan minggu akan mengikis lapisannya.




Bayangkan bila itu kena kulit kita ? Jadi sekali lagi telah terjadi




pembohongan publik lewat iklan anti nyamuk yang lembut bagi kulit, mana




mungkin zat yang jelas2 merusak kulit dapat merawat kulit, bahkan




setelah ditambahi embel2 menggunkan Aloe Vera atau zat pelembab lain




tetap saja berbahaya, jangan gunakan pada kulit yang sensitif atau anak




dibawah usia 2 tahun.




 

Jadi gimana ? Back to nature, kalau malam pakai kelambu, kalau siang




pakai tangan or raket listrik. Obat nyamuk hanya digunakan bila gangguan




memang sudah tak terkendali atau melebihi batas toleransi dan GUNAKAN




DENGAN CARA YANG AMAN. jangan pernah berfikir racun itu

aman.beberapa memang ampuh tapi tak ada yang benar2 aman...

pilihlah yang efek racunnya paling kecil, jika sekedar untuk

mengendalikan (bukan membasmi, sebab kalau nyamuk habis maka selesai




pula lah pekerjaan orang2 seperti saya) nyamuk maka pilihan terbaik




adalah Baygon Tutup hijau (racunnya transfluthrin dan Cyfluthrin) Vape




or Mortein, kalau perlu mengendalikan kecoa maka Baygon selain tutup




hijau dan Mortein adalah pilihan terbaik. Kalau obat nyamuk bakar sih




hampir sama semua... obat nyamuk elektrik pilihannya ada pada Baygon or




Vap

[ob] IHSG - Sesi 1

[JsxTrader]

Value masih dibawah 1 T.., no problem so far.., preferable jika bisa
bertahan diatas 1472, tapi  koreksi sampai 1460 masih ok lah.

 

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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[David Hartanto]

He..he..he.. betul Pak, bukan celaka 12 lagi bisa celaka 13. Mana 80% lagi di saham. Wis, enjoy the long weekend dulu aja deh. --- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, Rei  menulis:Dari: Rei Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan indexKepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:41 AM







Pasti pak...ada yg dihold (tapi karena NYANGKUT! )

Semoga pemilu lancar2 aja kalo gak cilaka 12 dah! Mungkin patung Budha-nya terharu keadaan damai2 saja...hehe
Hope for the best aja!
2009/4/8 David Hartanto 









Pak Rei, kalo saya sih ga yakin, biar katanya trader murni, kalo sampe all cash. Pasti ada yang masih dihold. --- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, Rei  menulis:

Dari: Rei  
Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan indexKepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comTanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:22 AM





Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya berarti belum 100% liburan...hehehe
EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo trader maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...
 
2009/4/8 jsx_consultant  








Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarahcuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversiondibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch"  wrote:
>> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar> (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
> pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat> minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua> market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
> jadi BD bisa jualan> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi. . )> > AsalCuap.Com> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"
>  wrote:> >> > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.> >> > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail> > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> >> > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan> > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...> >> >> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> > >> > >> > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..> > >> > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu> > > dulu lah...
> > >> > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt. ..> > >> > > Just my 2 cents> > >> > >> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"
> > >  wrote:> > > >> > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW> > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > >> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:> > > > >
> > > > > Mbah,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?> > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> menuju> > > ke utara.> > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Mh> > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > >> > > > > -Original Message-> > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@> > > > >> > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com> > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > BD mencoba menahan index> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound> > > > > dari -10 ke -1> > > > >> > > > > Saat ini -4> > > > >
> > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg> perlu> > > dana besar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >
> > > > >> > > > >  - - --> > > > >> > > > > + +> > > > > + + + + +> > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.> > > > > + + + + +> > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links> > > > >> > > >> > >
> >>





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[ob] Re: FW: UBS Investment Research - Indonesia Property Sector: Eyeing mispricing opportunity

[jsx_consultant]

Pada emiten property ada LONJAKAN keuntungan yg besar pada
kwartal 4 terutama pada group Ciputra.

Apakah ini rekayasa keuangan dengan menggeser keuntungan dari 
kwartal sebelumnya ke kwartal 4 ?.

Ada yg tahu PERSISnya kenapa ? 


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Vic"  wrote:
>
> properti gerak lagi. bahkan asri n bksl.
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Sanjaya"  wrote:
> >
> > CTRA TP Rp. 505.
> > 
> > ELTY TP Rp. 125.
> > 
> > SMRA TP Rp. 400.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Di Amrik data properti naik diluar perkiraan, apa ini saatnya properti 
> > Indonesia juga ikut bergerak? 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Salam,
> > 
> > Sanjaya
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Eyeing mispricing opportunity
> > 
> > 􀂄 Lower mortgage rates could reignite demand appetite
> > 
> > There has been government pressure to lower lending rates on the ground 
> > recently.
> > 
> > Our checks suggest mortgage rates have only declined around 100bps from
> > 
> > January to average 14% pa by end-February 2009. We believe only rates near 
> > 10%
> > 
> > pa will lift demand close to sales levels in 2007-08.
> > 
> > 􀂄 Landed residential segment sales to relatively outperform
> > 
> > The property segment that benefits the most from lower mortgage rates is 
> > landedresidential
> > 
> > especially for mid-to-lower income earners. High-rise residentials earn
> > 
> > lower margins than landed and are hence less attractive for developers 
> > although
> > 
> > demand in the mid-low segment can persist reasonably, in our view. We are
> > 
> > negative on investment properties this year. We believe a meaningful 
> > increase in
> > 
> > rental rates is unlikely.
> > 
> > 􀂄 50% discount to our calculated RNAV is attractive
> > 
> > We believe that over 50% discount to our property sector universe RNAV has 
> > been
> > 
> > an attractive entry level. However, the length and intensity of RNAV 
> > recovery may
> > 
> > vary. Our property stock universe is currently trading at average 4% 
> > discount.
> > 
> > 􀂄 Top pick is SMRA on a relative basis
> > 
> > We maintain our Buy ratings for Bakrieland, Ciputra Development, and
> > 
> > Summarecon given discount to target RNAV at 38%, 37% and 58%, respectively.
> > 
> > We maintain our Sell rating on Lippo Karawaci and Jababeka. Rolling over our
> > 
> > RNAV target to year 2010 and adjusting for 2008 figures, we raise our price
> > 
> > targets by 14-26%. Our RNAV-derived price targets assume 16.1-16.9% WACC
> > 
> > for development properties and 13.1-13.9% single cap-rate for investment
> > 
> > properties.
> >
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Rei]

Pasti pak...ada yg dihold (tapi karena NYANGKUT! [?][?])
Semoga pemilu lancar2 aja kalo gak cilaka 12 dah! Mungkin patung Budha-nya
terharu keadaan damai2 saja...hehe
Hope for the best aja!

2009/4/8 David Hartanto 

> Pak Rei, kalo saya sih ga yakin, biar katanya trader murni, kalo sampe
> all cash. Pasti ada yang masih dihold.
>
> --- Pada *Rab, 8/4/09, Rei * menulis:
>
>
> Dari: Rei 
> Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:22 AM
>
>   Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya
> berarti belum 100% liburan...hehehe
> EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo
> trader maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...
>
>
>
> 2009/4/8 jsx_consultant  id
> >
>
>Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
>> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
>> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>>
>> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> com,
>> "bejwatch"  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
>> >
>> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
>> > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
>> > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
>> > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
>> > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
>> > jadi BD bisa jualan
>> >
>> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi. . )
>> >
>> > AsalCuap.Com
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> > com,
>> "jsx_consultant"
>> >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
>> > >
>> > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
>> > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
>> > >
>> > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
>> > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> > > com,
>> "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
>> > > >
>> > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
>> > > > dulu lah...
>> > > >
>> > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt. ..
>> > > >
>> > > > Just my 2 cents
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> > > > com,
>> "jsx_consultant"
>> > > >  wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
>> > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> > > > > com,
>> "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Mbah,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
>> > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
>> > menuju
>> > > > ke utara.
>> > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > Mh
>> > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > -Original Message-
>> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
>> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. 
>> > > > > > com
>> > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
>> > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
>> > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Saat ini -4
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
>> > perlu
>> > > > dana besar.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >  - - --
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > + +
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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[David Hartanto]

Pak Rei, kalo saya sih ga yakin, biar katanya trader murni, kalo sampe all 
cash. Pasti ada yang masih dihold. 

--- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, Rei  menulis:

Dari: Rei 
Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:22 AM












Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya 
berarti belum 100% liburan...hehehe
EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo trader 
maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...


 
2009/4/8 jsx_consultant 






Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch"  wrote:

>
> 
> Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> 
> Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan

> pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
> minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya

> jadi BD bisa jualan
> 
> Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi. . )
> 
> AsalCuap.Com
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"

>  wrote:
> >
> > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> >
> > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.

> >
> > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:

> > >
> > >
> > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > >
> > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> > > dulu lah...

> > >
> > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt. ..
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"

> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.

> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mbah,

> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> menuju

> > > ke utara.
> > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Mh
> > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > >

> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > >
> > > > >

> > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > >

> > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > >
> > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
> perlu
> > > dana besar.
> > > > >

> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >  - - --
> > > > >
> > > > > + +

> > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > + + + + +

> > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>





 

  




 

















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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[David Hartanto]

Mudah-mudahan semua bisa berjalan lancar deh Mbah, karena ada teman saya yang 
katanya terima SMS kalau patung Budha yang di Aceh mengeluarkan air mata, sama 
seperti pada saat terjadi Tsunami dulu. 
Yang pasti penurunan Index kita masih lebih rendah dari penurunan di regional. 
Semoga disesi II bisa bertahan, siapa tau jadi hijau sendiri. Let's all hope 
for the best. 

--- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:

Dari: jsx_consultant 
Topik: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 11:15 AM












Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah

cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion

dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch"  wrote:

>

> 

> Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...

> 

> Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar

> (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan

> pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat

> minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua

> market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya

> jadi BD bisa jualan

> 

> Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi. . )

> 

> AsalCuap.Com

> 

> 

> --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"

>  wrote:

> >

> > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.

> >

> > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail

> > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.

> >

> > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan

> > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...

> >

> >

> > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..

> > >

> > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu

> > > dulu lah...

> > >

> > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt. ..

> > >

> > > Just my 2 cents

> > >

> > >

> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "jsx_consultant"

> > >  wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW

> > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.

> > > >

> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Mbah,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?

> > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa

> menuju

> > > ke utara.

> > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,

> > > > > Thanks

> > > > > Mh

> > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

> > > > >

> > > > > -Original Message-

> > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@

> > > > >

> > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22

> > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > BD mencoba menahan index

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat

> > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound

> > > > > dari -10 ke -1

> > > > >

> > > > > Saat ini -4

> > > > >

> > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg

> perlu

> > > dana besar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >  - - --

> > > > >

> > > > > + +

> > > > > + + + + +

> > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus

> > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.

> > > > > + + + + +

> > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>




 

  




 

















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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[poetra]

EL vacation duluan mungkin karena pemilu legislatif di sini udah
ketahuan siapa aja yg masuk 4 besar (kalo di EPL istilahnya THE BIG
FOUR). Jadi pemilu presiden rasanya lebih signifikan utk lebih
dicermati. Utk berdarahnya itu, saya pikir skalanya kecil mbah. Karena
persaingan legilatif sekarang kan bukan antar partai aja, tapi sudah
dalam partai (yg terpilih berdasarkan jumlah pemilih terbanyak lagi
bukan dari nomor urut).
Lebih berdarah sepertinya tidak, lebih RIBET mungkin iya.

Dan pasar Indonesia (tanpa melihat DJI ya) sepertinya baru berpengaruh
setelah hasil pemilu ketahuan dan penetapan capres sudah diajukan.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
 wrote:
>
> Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> >
> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga
memperhitungkan
> > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan
dibuat
> > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari
seninnya
> > jadi BD bisa jualan
> >
> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
> >
> > AsalCuap.Com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> > >
> > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> > >
> > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > > >
> > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil
pemilu
> > > > dulu lah...
> > > >
> > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak
buangettt...
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mbah,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> > menuju
> > > > ke utara.
> > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Mh
> > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham
yg
> > perlu
> > > > dana besar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + +
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[bejwatch]

Mudah-mudahan semua bakalan aman terkendali

No worry about it...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
 wrote:
>
> Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> >
> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga
memperhitungkan
> > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan
dibuat
> > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari
seninnya
> > jadi BD bisa jualan
> >
> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
> >
> > AsalCuap.Com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> > >
> > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> > >
> > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > > >
> > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil
pemilu
> > > > dulu lah...
> > > >
> > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak
buangettt...
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mbah,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> > menuju
> > > > ke utara.
> > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Mh
> > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham
yg
> > perlu
> > > > dana besar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + +
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[jsx_consultant]

BIG FUND posisinya masih long, kalo El engga tau deh, abis saham
El kan engga bisa bunyi... hihihi...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Rei  wrote:
>
> Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya berarti
> belum 100% liburan...hehehe
> EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo
> trader maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...
> 
> 
> 
> 2009/4/8 jsx_consultant 
> 
> >   Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> > cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> > dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "bejwatch"  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> > >
> > > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> > > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
> > > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
> > > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> > > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
> > > jadi BD bisa jualan
> > >
> > > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
> > >
> > > AsalCuap.Com
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> > "jsx_consultant"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> > > >
> > > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> > > >
> > > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> > "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > > > >
> > > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> > > > > dulu lah...
> > > > >
> > > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...
> > > > >
> > > > > Just my 2 cents
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In 
> > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> > "jsx_consultant"
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In 
> > > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> > "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mbah,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> > > menuju
> > > > > ke utara.
> > > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Mh
> > > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > > > To: 
> > > > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
> > > perlu
> > > > > dana besar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > + +
> > > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[poetra]

EL vacation duluan mungkin karena pemilu legislatif di sini udah
ketahuan siapa yg aja yg masuk 4 besar (kalo di EPL istilahnya THE BIG
FOUR). Jadi pemilu presiden rasanya lebih signifikan utk lebih
dicermati. Utk berdarahnya itu, saya pikir skalanya kecil mbah. Karena
persaingan legilatif sekarang kan bukan antar partai aja, tapi sudah
dalam partai (yg terpilih berdasarkan jumlah pemilih terbanyak lagi
bukan dari nomor urut).
Lebih berdarah sepertinya tidak, lebih RIBET mungkin iya.

Dan pasar Indonesia (tanpa melihat DJI ya) sepertinya baru berpengaruh
setelah hasil pemilu ketahuan dan penetapan capres sudah diajukan.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
 wrote:
>
> Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> >
> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga
memperhitungkan
> > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan
dibuat
> > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari
seninnya
> > jadi BD bisa jualan
> >
> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
> >
> > AsalCuap.Com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> > >
> > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> > >
> > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@
wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > > >
> > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil
pemilu
> > > > dulu lah...
> > > >
> > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak
buangettt...
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mbah,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> > menuju
> > > > ke utara.
> > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Mh
> > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham
yg
> > perlu
> > > > dana besar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + +
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

[ob] Re: FW: UBS Investment Research - Indonesia Property Sector: Eyeing mispricing opportunity

[Vic]

properti gerak lagi. bahkan asri n bksl.


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "Sanjaya"  wrote:
>
> CTRA TP Rp. 505.
> 
> ELTY TP Rp. 125.
> 
> SMRA TP Rp. 400.
> 
>  
> 
> Di Amrik data properti naik diluar perkiraan, apa ini saatnya properti 
> Indonesia juga ikut bergerak? 
> 
>  
> 
> Salam,
> 
> Sanjaya
> 
>  
> 
> Eyeing mispricing opportunity
> 
> 􀂄 Lower mortgage rates could reignite demand appetite
> 
> There has been government pressure to lower lending rates on the ground 
> recently.
> 
> Our checks suggest mortgage rates have only declined around 100bps from
> 
> January to average 14% pa by end-February 2009. We believe only rates near 10%
> 
> pa will lift demand close to sales levels in 2007-08.
> 
> 􀂄 Landed residential segment sales to relatively outperform
> 
> The property segment that benefits the most from lower mortgage rates is 
> landedresidential
> 
> especially for mid-to-lower income earners. High-rise residentials earn
> 
> lower margins than landed and are hence less attractive for developers 
> although
> 
> demand in the mid-low segment can persist reasonably, in our view. We are
> 
> negative on investment properties this year. We believe a meaningful increase 
> in
> 
> rental rates is unlikely.
> 
> 􀂄 50% discount to our calculated RNAV is attractive
> 
> We believe that over 50% discount to our property sector universe RNAV has 
> been
> 
> an attractive entry level. However, the length and intensity of RNAV recovery 
> may
> 
> vary. Our property stock universe is currently trading at average 4% discount.
> 
> 􀂄 Top pick is SMRA on a relative basis
> 
> We maintain our Buy ratings for Bakrieland, Ciputra Development, and
> 
> Summarecon given discount to target RNAV at 38%, 37% and 58%, respectively.
> 
> We maintain our Sell rating on Lippo Karawaci and Jababeka. Rolling over our
> 
> RNAV target to year 2010 and adjusting for 2008 figures, we raise our price
> 
> targets by 14-26%. Our RNAV-derived price targets assume 16.1-16.9% WACC
> 
> for development properties and 13.1-13.9% single cap-rate for investment
> 
> properties.
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Kabu Nusi]

Kemaren ada berita di bloomberg said, perusahaan investasi beliau didenda $40jt 
oleh salah satu pemerintah Eropa, karena cornering saham bank pemerintah tsb. 
Beliau cuman bilang, ya ntar kita investigasi internal   




--- On Wed, 4/8/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:

From: jsx_consultant 
Subject: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 4:09 AM

Index Regional dan DJI Future jatuh tambah dalam...

Si Soros bikin Bearish Statement at the RIGHT time FOR HIM.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "poetra"  wrote:
>
> Untuk membuat inflow regional tidak mestakung embah. Apalagi ada momen
> pemilu. BD menahan indeks aja udah lumayan, soalnya merahnya tidak
> sebesar yg lain. Utk yg yakin pemilu lancar sebaiknya beli sekarang,
> kalo takut kenapa2 atau BU jual.  Kalo mau invest ga usah liat market,
> besok abis nyontreng silakan puas-puasin liburan deh biar Senin seger
> lagi.
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Mbah,
> > >
> > >
> > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa menuju
> ke utara.
> > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > Thanks
> > > Mh
> > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > >
> > >
> > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > >
> > >
> > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > dari -10 ke -1
> > >
> > > Saat ini -4
> > >
> > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu
> dana besar.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
>






+ +
+ + + + +
Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus 
kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
+ + + + +
+ +Yahoo! Groups Links






  

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Rei]

Liburan sih liburan Mbah, tapi apa posisi masih ditangan? Kalo iya berarti
belum 100% liburan...hehehe
EL, are you STILL holding your position for investment like I do? Kalo
trader maklum jika sdh 100% atau >50% cash...



2009/4/8 jsx_consultant 

>   Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
> cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
> dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "bejwatch"  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> >
> > Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> > (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
> > pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
> > minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> > market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
> > jadi BD bisa jualan
> >
> > Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
> >
> > AsalCuap.Com
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> "jsx_consultant"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> > >
> > > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> > >
> > > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > > >
> > > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> > > > dulu lah...
> > > >
> > > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "jsx_consultant"
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In 
> > > > > obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com,
> "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mbah,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> > menuju
> > > > ke utara.
> > > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Mh
> > > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
> > perlu
> > > > dana besar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > + +
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> 
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[jsx_consultant]

Yakin nih ramalan Permadi yg bilang Pemilu bakal berdarah
cuman OMONG KOSONG, El aja udah liburan duluan, risk aversion
dibalik 'liburan'... hehehe... canda ya El...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch"  wrote:
>
> 
> Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...
> 
> Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
> (Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
> pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
> minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
> market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
> jadi BD bisa jualan
> 
> Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )
> 
> AsalCuap.Com
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
> >
> > Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> > mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
> >
> > Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> > Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> > >
> > > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> > > dulu lah...
> > >
> > > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...
> > >
> > > Just my 2 cents
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > > >
> > > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mbah,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
> menuju
> > > ke utara.
> > > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Mh
> > > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > > >
> > > > > Saat ini -4
> > > > >
> > > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
> perlu
> > > dana besar.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > + +
> > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > > + + + + +
> > > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ob] Re: BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih....

[purnama saputra]

http://www.inilah.com/berita/ekonomi/2009/04/07/96880/luar-biasa-btel/

ini rumornya tuh

rgds





From: Vic 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 11:00:06 AM
Subject: [ob] Re: BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih


efek rumor diakuisisi tlkm?

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "FromBuitenzorg"  
wrote:
>
> Nggak memperhatikan BTEL, tau2 udah 57, 58, 59 hehehe...cuma ragu itu naiknya 
> beneran atau gimana ? Kalo dibeli balik lagi ke GOCAP nyesel, kalo gak dibeli 
> tau2 udah CEPEK-an juga nyesel :p
> 
> 
> Rgrds
>


   


  

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[jsx_consultant]

Index Regional dan DJI Future jatuh tambah dalam...

Si Soros bikin Bearish Statement at the RIGHT time FOR HIM.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "poetra"  wrote:
>
> Untuk membuat inflow regional tidak mestakung embah. Apalagi ada momen
> pemilu. BD menahan indeks aja udah lumayan, soalnya merahnya tidak
> sebesar yg lain. Utk yg yakin pemilu lancar sebaiknya beli sekarang,
> kalo takut kenapa2 atau BU jual.  Kalo mau invest ga usah liat market,
> besok abis nyontreng silakan puas-puasin liburan deh biar Senin seger
> lagi.
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Mbah,
> > >
> > >
> > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa menuju
> ke utara.
> > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > Thanks
> > > Mh
> > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > >
> > >
> > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > >
> > >
> > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > dari -10 ke -1
> > >
> > > Saat ini -4
> > >
> > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu
> dana besar.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[bejwatch]

Dow Fut -94 market semakin pesimis...

Kalo gak salah ingat mengenai bandarmologi mbah tentang BOZZ besar
(Control The World Market), apa mungkin BOZZ ini juga memperhitungkan
pemilu di Indonesia sehingga 2 hari ini (rabu n kamis) dow akan dibuat
minus baru bangkit dari kubur (naek kencang) hari jumat dimana semua
market dunia udah tutup sehingga akan terjadi euforia pada hari seninnya
jadi BD bisa jualan

Gimana mbah (Walah tau apa aku ini mengenai bandarmologi.. )

AsalCuap.Com


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
 wrote:
>
> Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.
>
> Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
> mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.
>
> Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
> Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
>
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch" peter.lawyer@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> >
> > Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> > dulu lah...
> >
> > Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...
> >
> > Just my 2 cents
> >
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> > >
> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mbah,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa
menuju
> > ke utara.
> > > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Mh
> > > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > > dari -10 ke -1
> > > >
> > > > Saat ini -4
> > > >
> > > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg
perlu
> > dana besar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > + +
> > > > + + + + +
> > > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > > + + + + +
> > > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ob] Hati 2 dgn new Virus Com yg blum ada vaksinnya !!!!

[sAThya®]

it just information that i ve bro
klu di bliang virus ga bisa hapus file dan ngga bs merusak boot sector 
hardisk anda keliru bung ! 
krn saya dulu pernah buat tahun 1992 and its work. ,, skrang uda saya 
tinggalkan semuanya,,,  :-)


 




From: Hilman Kamaludin 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:20:57 AM
Subject: RE: [ob] Hati 2 dgn new Virus Com yg blum ada vaksinnya 


I think it's a kind of hoax. Omongan dari dari dulu virus  yang bisa ngerusak 
boot sector secara teori sangat sulit (kata lain tidak mungkin). Lagian kalau 
isu soal  virus yang merusak boot sector  hard disk  itu isu lama. Selama kita 
menggunakan PC dengan antivirus yang diupdate secara teratur. Lagian setahu 
saya tidak ada virus yang bisa menghapus file, kemungkinan hanya menyembunyikan 
file dengan cara membuat file menjadi hidden (Pemecahannya adalah dengan 
mencontreng option show hidden file pada tab folder options).
 
 
 
 



From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou 
ps.com] On Behalf Of sAThya®
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:06 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com; sa...@yahoogroups. com; 
my_...@yahoogroups.. com; milis-AATI-subscrib e...@yahoogroups. com; Amibroker4 
Indo
Subject: [ob] Hati 2 dgn new Virus Com yg blum ada vaksinnya 


Sebuah virus baru sudah ditemukan, dan digolongkan oleh Microsoft
  sebagai
  yang paling merusak! Virus itu baru ditemukan pada hari Minggu siang
  yang
  lalu oleh McAfee, dan belum ditemukan vaksin untuk mengalahkannya.
  Virus ini merusak Zero dari Sektor hard disc, yang menyimpan fungsi
  informasi-informasi terpenting. Virus ini berjalan sebagai berikut :
  "h secara otomatis virus ini akan terkirim ke semua nama dalam daftar
  alamat anda dengan judul "Sebuah Kartu Untuk Anda" ( Une Carte Pour
  Vous ,
  atau A Card For You );
  "h begitu kartu virtual itu terbuka, virus itu akan membekukan komputer
  sehingga penggunanya harus memulainya kembali; kalau anda menekan
  CTRL+ALT+DEL atau perintah untuk restart, virus itu akan merusak
  Zero dari
  Sektor Boot hard disk, sehingga hard disk akan rusak secara permanen.
  Menurut CNN, virus itu dalam beberapa jam sudah menimbulkan kepanikan di
  New York... Peringatan ini telah diterima oleh pegawai Microsoft sendiri.
  Jangan membuka e-mail dengan judul "Sebuah kartu virtual untuk Anda"
  ( Une
  Carte Virtuelle Pour Vous atau A Virtual Card For You ).

  AWAS!!!
  Jangan terima kontak " pti_bout_de_ chou @hotmail.com ". Ini virus yang
  akan memformat komputer anda. Kirimkan pesan ini ke semua orang yang ada
  di dalam daftar alamat anda.
  Kalau anda tidak melakukannya dan salah seorang teman anda memasukkannya
  dalam daftar alamatnya, komputer anda juga akan terkena.

  URGENTTT !
  PERHATIAN !
  Kepada teman - teman semuanya,
  Bila suatu hari anda menerima e-mail Powerpoint Presentation dgn judul
  "Life is beautiful..pps" , JANGAN DIBUKA DENGAN ALASAN APAPUN dan delete
  -lah segera. Apabila anda membuka file tsb,maka di layar anda akan
  terbaca
  "Now it is too late, your life is nolonger beautiful", setelah itu Anda
  akan KEHILANGAN SEMUANYA BAIK DATA,SOFTWARE, PROGRAM ATAUPUN
  SEJENISNYA YA
  NG ADA DI DALAM PC anda, jenisvirus ini sangat merusak dan orang yang
  mengirimkanya akan mendapat namaakses, e-mail & password anda. Itu
  adalah
  jenis virus baru yang mulai padahari Sabtu malam dan belum ada anti
  virusnya.

 
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[ob] Masih ada sesi II, DOW fut minus....

[sulistyo_winarto]

Dear OB, bener Mbah ..bandar coba nahan. coba sesi II. DOW fut - 90 an. Salam 
long week end


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "sulistyo_winarto" 
 wrote:
>
> Dear Senior OB, coba bid di ASII,UNVR, Ixxx. Biasanya nggak dapet.
> Salam long week-end
>

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[agung aja]

Mbah ngga diajak vacation ke Luanda ???
wanna feel HARD LIVING
why dont you try to TIMOR LESTE or LHASA in TIBET miss eL ??
hohohoho



regards





From: jsx_consultant 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:29:04 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Elaine has gone to Luanda Angola for vacation... hehehe... 

The iron lady want to have tour with rebel troop and feel
the HARD LIVING in Angola. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, agung aja  wrote:
>
> Ride BUMI into Goceng like what you've ever said few months ago 
> Show me Miss eLaine
> Mbah and BD-ers will support then
> Good luck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  _ _ __
> From: Elaine Sui 
> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:14:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> 
> Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY, 
> ARE YOU INVESTING??? ?? 
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTraderâ„¢  wrote:
> 
> Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and 
> iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come 
> from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau 
> ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
> 
> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n 
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
> 
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>  _ _ __
> From: Elaine Sui 
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700 
> 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by 
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese 
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
> 
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTraderâ„¢  wrote:
> 
> Yea..yea...yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's 
> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
> 
> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk 
> food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, 
> see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too 
> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
> 
> 
> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>  _ _ __
> From: Elaine Sui 
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700 
> 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> That's right!
> 
> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, 
> from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create 
> cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology 
> students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal 
> mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best 
> drama TV series.. 
> 
> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.
> 
> I have an interesting article, please read it.
> http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- 
> pacts-with- china-korea. html
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
> 
> So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to 
> US & Europe...  
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:
> 
> If I can summarize:
> 
> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of 
> this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary 
> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
> 3.. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy 
> bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as 
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic 
> viewpoint 
> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from 
> Asia
> 
> That's how the recovery will work, right?
> 
> Rgds,
> Yuta 
> 
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>  _ _ __
> From: Elaine Sui 
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> 
> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and 
> then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can 
> destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in 
> exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of 
> the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, 
> effectiv

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[poetra]

Untuk membuat inflow regional tidak mestakung embah. Apalagi ada momen
pemilu. BD menahan indeks aja udah lumayan, soalnya merahnya tidak
sebesar yg lain. Utk yg yakin pemilu lancar sebaiknya beli sekarang,
kalo takut kenapa2 atau BU jual.  Kalo mau invest ga usah liat market,
besok abis nyontreng silakan puas-puasin liburan deh biar Senin seger
lagi.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
 wrote:
>
> Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> >
> >
> > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa menuju
ke utara.
> > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > Thanks
> > Mh
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> >
> > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> >
> >
> > BD mencoba menahan index
> >
> >
> > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > dari -10 ke -1
> >
> > Saat ini -4
> >
> > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu
dana besar.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

[ob] Re: BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih....

[Vic]

efek rumor diakuisisi tlkm?



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "FromBuitenzorg"  
wrote:
>
> Nggak memperhatikan BTEL, tau2 udah 57, 58, 59 hehehe...cuma ragu itu naiknya 
> beneran atau gimana ? Kalo dibeli balik lagi ke GOCAP nyesel, kalo gak dibeli 
> tau2 udah CEPEK-an juga nyesel :p
> 
> 
> Rgrds
>

[ob] Masukan Buat IPOT --> Chart Realtime

["::Pak_AA:":]

Chart Realtime nya dikasih VOLUME dong. Trims ya

RE: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[JsxTrader]

Jadi Pak !.., kumpulin 20 orang aja dah.., ntar saya usulin ke promotornya.,
hehehe

 

JT

   

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of anru.s...@gmail.com
Sent: 08 April 2009 10:34
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 

Bisa jg bikin training utk kita2 yg di bali :)
Jadi, sambil liburan dpt duit :)

Sent from my BlackBerryR
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

  _  

From: "JsxTrader" 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:06:58 +0700
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Untuk local, Bali still my favorite lah.., hampir setiap tahun kesana dan
ngga pernah bosen.., Cuma jangan sekali-sekali ke Bali kalau lagi ada
posisi., liburan bisa rusak..hehe.., waktu crash agustus 2007 saya pas
disana.., porto ancur.., yang ada bukannya enjoy malah merenungi nasib
dipinggir pantai .., hahaha

 

Anyway.., ANTM 1200 masih kuat tuh., let see lah., BD nunggu kita give up
kali., saya sih belagak bego aja dah.. I am still HOLD.., J

 

JT

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rei
Sent: 08 April 2009 9:38
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 

Ah pak JT suka merendah nih... :-) I am sure you can travel anywhere
anytime.

Di Guam bagus juga pak katanya, teman saya ada yg disana (org Guam sih, baru
datang ke jakarta blm lama ini)...cuma buat relaxing. Buat yg pikir
Hawaii/Africa mungkin terlalu jauh, tapi Bali terlalu dekat hehe. Banyak
turis Jepang di sana.

 

Ngomong2 Antm <1200 tuh...Monggo buat yg belum masuk. Ptba malah sdh kuning.



 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:33 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Sure I love traveling, EL..., as a matter of fact I am now sick and tired so
I need to take a vacation..., but it needs money.., and trading is one way
to get it..., hehe...,

jadi I am doing Trading for Traveling now Lolz

Powered by TLKM BullBerryR

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:26:20 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like
traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway. Bring your
wife and kids there, they'll like it.

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will do
it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...

Powered by TLKM BullBerryR

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
ARE YOU INVESTING? 

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and
iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come
from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau
ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe

Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?

Powered by TLKM BullBerryR

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.

What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.

Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk
food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around you,
see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..

Sent from my BullBerryR smartphone

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

That's right!

Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
has the best drama TV series.. 

Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

I have an interesting article, please read it.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-i

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[jsx_consultant]

Kemarin ada Outflow tapi portfolio Bozz masih BANYAK.

Hari ini Outflow tidak mungkin gede karena TIDAK MUNGKIN retail
mau belanja disaat besok mau Pemilu.

Hanya Contrarian 'PKB' yg berani beli hari ini dgn perhitungan
Pemilu lancar dan DJI tidak turun lagi...
 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch"  wrote:
>
> 
> Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..
> 
> Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
> dulu lah...
> 
> Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...
> 
> Just my 2 cents
> 
> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> > ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
> >
> > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Mbah,
> > >
> > >
> > > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa menuju
> ke utara.
> > > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > > Thanks
> > > Mh
> > > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> > >
> > >
> > > BD mencoba menahan index
> > >
> > >
> > > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > > dari -10 ke -1
> > >
> > > Saat ini -4
> > >
> > > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu
> dana besar.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > + +
> > > + + + + +
> > > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > > + + + + +
> > > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
>

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[fifi young]

It's hard to believe Elaine was grew up 'n studied
in the US, but she could come home 'n established
her career here.
She has made a VERY SMART decision...
To learn from the Master, then
To  earn from the S... hahaha... [?][?][?][?][?][?]

Plan to travel...? Go to see China...
You won't regret...!


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:29 AM, jsx_consultant <
jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

>   Elaine has gone to Luanda Angola for vacation... hehehe...
>
> The iron lady want to have tour with rebel troop and feel
> the HARD LIVING in Angola.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ,
> agung aja  wrote:
> >
> > Ride BUMI into Goceng like what you've ever said few months agoÂ
>
> > Show me Miss eLaine
> > Mbah and BD-ers will support then
> > Good luck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > regards
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Elaine Sui 
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:14:02 AM
> > Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> >
> >
> > Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track.
> HEY, ARE YOU INVESTING??? ??
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTraderâ„¢ 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
> and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
> come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
> kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
> >
> > Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
> >
> > Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
> > 
> > From: Elaine Sui
> > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
> >
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> >
> > Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
> >
> > What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> debt.
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTraderâ„¢ 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US,
> who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my
> dear.
> >
> > Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look
> around you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it
> is too arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
> >
> >
> > Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
> > 
> > From: Elaine Sui
> > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
> >
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> >
> > That's right!
> >
> > Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
> has the best drama TV series..
> >
> > Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
> us.
> >
> > I have an interesting article, please read it.
> > http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment-
> pacts-with- china-korea. html
> >
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
> >
> > So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually
> spread to US & Europe...Â
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
> wrote:
> >
> > If I can summarize:
> >
> > 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> > 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
> > 3.. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
> viewpoint
> > 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
> from Asia
> >
> > That's how the recovery will work, right?
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Yuta
> >
> > Powered by my VerryBerry®
> > 
> > From: Elaine Sui
> > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> >
> >
> > "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and
> then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You
> can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it r

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[anru . sing]

Bisa jg bikin training utk kita2 yg di bali :)
Jadi, sambil liburan dpt duit :)


Sent from my BlackBerry®
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

-Original Message-
From: "JsxTrader" 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:06:58 
To: 
Subject: RE: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Untuk local, Bali still my favorite lah.., hampir setiap tahun kesana dan
ngga pernah bosen.., Cuma jangan sekali-sekali ke Bali kalau lagi ada
posisi., liburan bisa rusak..hehe.., waktu crash agustus 2007 saya pas
disana.., porto ancur.., yang ada bukannya enjoy malah merenungi nasib
dipinggir pantai .., hahaha

 

Anyway.., ANTM 1200 masih kuat tuh., let see lah., BD nunggu kita give up
kali., saya sih belagak bego aja dah.. I am still HOLD.., J

 

JT

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rei
Sent: 08 April 2009 9:38
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 

Ah pak JT suka merendah nih... :-) I am sure you can travel anywhere
anytime.

Di Guam bagus juga pak katanya, teman saya ada yg disana (org Guam sih, baru
datang ke jakarta blm lama ini)...cuma buat relaxing. Buat yg pikir
Hawaii/Africa mungkin terlalu jauh, tapi Bali terlalu dekat hehe. Banyak
turis Jepang di sana.

 

Ngomong2 Antm <1200 tuh...Monggo buat yg belum masuk. Ptba malah sdh kuning.



 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:33 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Sure I love traveling, EL..., as a matter of fact I am now sick and tired so
I need to take a vacation..., but it needs money.., and trading is one way
to get it..., hehe...,

jadi I am doing Trading for Traveling now Lolz

Powered by TLKM BullBerryR

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:26:20 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like
traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway. Bring your
wife and kids there, they'll like it.

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will do
it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...

Powered by TLKM BullBerryR

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
ARE YOU INVESTING? 

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and
iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come
from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau
ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe

Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?

Powered by TLKM BullBerryR

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.

What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.

Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk
food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around you,
see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..

Sent from my BullBerryR smartphone

  _  

From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

That's right!

Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
has the best drama TV series.. 

Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

I have an interesting article, please read it.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-wit
h-china-korea.html

Elaine

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to
US & Europe...  

 

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
wrote:

If I can summarize:

1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of
this year (pesimist) helped by the gigan

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[dario kurniawan]

Elaine memang analis fundamental yang baik...langsung samperin ke site untuk 
men check kebenarannya...sekarang elaine ada di jakarta dan bilang indonesia 
itu fundamentalnya kuat, caranya ya main ke mal2 yang tetap rame dan orang2 
megang bungkusan belanja, tiket konser mahal dibeli juga, kampanye partai 
berbiaya triliunan, jalanan tetap macet, mobil ferari maserati belum datang 
barangnya tetap inden..suzuki keluarin produk baru langsung dibeli..dsb..orang 
miskin dan pengangguran memang bertambah--> masalahnya yang satu ini sering 
dipolitisir angka sering dibuat buat hehehe...

Dario Amran

--- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, jsx_consultant  menulis:

Dari: jsx_consultant 
Topik: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 10:29 AM












Elaine has gone to Luanda Angola for vacation... hehehe... 



The iron lady want to have tour with rebel troop and feel

the HARD LIVING in Angola. 



--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, agung aja  wrote:

>

> Ride BUMI into Goceng like what you've ever said few months ago 

> Show me Miss eLaine

> Mbah and BD-ers will support then

> Good luck

> 

> 

> 

> 

> regards

> 

> 

> 

> 

>  _ _ __

> From: Elaine Sui 

> To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:14:02 AM

> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

> 

> 

> Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY, 
> ARE YOU INVESTING??? ?? 

> 

> Elaine

> 

> 

> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTraderâ„¢  wrote:

> 

> Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and 
> iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come 
> from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau 
> ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe

> 

> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n 
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?

> 

> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®

>  _ _ __

> From: Elaine Sui 

> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700 

> 

> To: 

> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

> 

> Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by 
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese 
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.

> 

> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.

> 

> Elaine

> 

> 

> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTraderâ„¢  wrote:

> 

> Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's 
> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.

> 

> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk 
> food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, 
> see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too 
> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..

> 

> 

> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone

>  _ _ __

> From: Elaine Sui 

> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700 

> 

> To: 

> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

> 

> That's right!

> 

> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, 
> from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create 
> cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology 
> students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal 
> mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best 
> drama TV series.. 

> 

> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

> 

> I have an interesting article, please read it.

> http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- 
> pacts-with- china-korea. html

> 

> Elaine

> 

> 

> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

> 

> So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to 
> US & Europe...  

> 

> 

> 

> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:

> 

> If I can summarize:

> 

> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of 
> this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet

> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary 
> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia

> 3.. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy 
> bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as 
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic 
> viewpoint 

> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from 
> Asia

> 

> That's how the recovery will work, right?

> 

> Rgds,

> Yuta 

> 

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Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[conx_2003]

menurut statistik, pd tgl 6 april 2004, 5 tahun yg lalu 1 hari setelah pemilu 
diadakan, IHSG naek 2,793%, TLKM naek 350 point dari 7300 ke 7650 
hehehhehehehe

kalau pemilu tidak berjalan dengan lancar, tentunya ada oknum yg outflow dengan 
besar, karena biasanya politik n money itu selalu berjalan bersama

klo ga ada berarti aman2 saja, mari ciptakan keamanan menjelang pemilu 2009



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mo Cuan  wrote:
>
> 
> embah 
> 1. kalau harus ditahan, kenapa kuda-2 BUMI tidak dimainkan?
> 2. kenapa harus ditahan? kenapa tidak dibiarkan koreksi terjadi dengan 
> "wajar" agar naiknya kemudian enak?
> 
> terimakasih
> +++
> mo cuan nyubi gak ngertos cara kerja BD.
> 
> --- On Tue, 4/7/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:
> 
> > From: jsx_consultant 
> > 
> > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil
> > rebound
> > dari -10 ke -1
> > 
> > Saat ini -4 
> > 
> > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham
> > yg perlu dana besar.
> > 
> >
>

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[bejwatch]

Kalo gitu index kalo mau lari habis pemilu kali yaa mbah..

Soalnya kalo emang serius mau inflow yaaa logisnya liat hasil pemilu
dulu lah...

Tapi kalo BD laen kali yaa... Triknya kan banyak buangettt...

Just my 2 cents


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
 wrote:
>
> Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
> ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.
>
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh" ngitung@ wrote:
> >
> > Mbah,
> >
> >
> > Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> > Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa menuju
ke utara.
> > Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah,
> > Thanks
> > Mh
> > Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "jsx_consultant" jsx-consultant@
> >
> > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22
> > To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> >
> >
> > BD mencoba menahan index
> >
> >
> > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > dari -10 ke -1
> >
> > Saat ini -4
> >
> > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu
dana besar.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > + +
> > + + + + +
> > Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
> > kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas.
> > + + + + +
> > + +Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[jsx_consultant]

Elaine has gone to Luanda Angola for vacation... hehehe... 

The iron lady want to have tour with rebel troop and feel
the HARD LIVING in Angola. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, agung aja  wrote:
>
> Ride BUMI into Goceng like what you've ever said few months ago 
> Show me Miss eLaine
> Mbah and BD-ers will support then
> Good luck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> regards
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:14:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> 
> Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY, 
> ARE YOU INVESTING??? ?? 
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
> 
> Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and 
> iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come 
> from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau 
> ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
> 
> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n 
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
> 
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
> 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700 
> 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by 
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese 
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
> 
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
> 
> Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's 
> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
> 
> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk 
> food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, 
> see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too 
> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
> 
> 
> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
> 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700 
> 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> That's right!
> 
> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, 
> from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create 
> cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology 
> students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal 
> mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best 
> drama TV series.. 
> 
> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.
> 
> I have an interesting article, please read it.
> http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- 
> pacts-with- china-korea. html
> 
> Elaine
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
> 
> So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to 
> US & Europe...  
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:
> 
> If I can summarize:
> 
> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of 
> this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary 
> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
> 3.. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy 
> bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as 
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic 
> viewpoint 
> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from 
> Asia
> 
> That's how the recovery will work, right?
> 
> Rgds,
> Yuta 
> 
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
> 
> From: Elaine Sui 
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> 
> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and 
> then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can 
> destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in 
> exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of 
> the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, 
> effectively you have colonized that country." - DR.. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD 
> (July 2nd, 2001)
> 
> I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US 
> with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US 
> future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan, 
> with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds

RE: [ob] Hati 2 dgn new Virus Com yg blum ada vaksinnya !!!!

[Hilman Kamaludin]

I think it's a kind of hoax. Omongan dari dari dulu virus  yang bisa
ngerusak boot sector secara teori sangat sulit (kata lain tidak
mungkin). Lagian kalau isu soal  virus yang merusak boot sector  hard
disk  itu isu lama. Selama kita menggunakan PC dengan antivirus yang
diupdate secara teratur. Lagian setahu saya tidak ada virus yang bisa
menghapus file, kemungkinan hanya menyembunyikan file dengan cara
membuat file menjadi hidden (Pemecahannya adalah dengan mencontreng
option show hidden file pada tab folder options).
 
 
 

 



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Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:06 AM
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Indo
Subject: [ob] Hati 2 dgn new Virus Com yg blum ada vaksinnya 



Sebuah virus baru sudah ditemukan, dan digolongkan oleh Microsoft
  sebagai
  yang paling merusak! Virus itu baru ditemukan pada hari Minggu siang
  yang
  lalu oleh McAfee, dan belum ditemukan vaksin untuk mengalahkannya.
  Virus ini merusak Zero dari Sektor hard disc, yang menyimpan fungsi
  informasi-informasi terpenting. Virus ini berjalan sebagai berikut :
  "h secara otomatis virus ini akan terkirim ke semua nama dalam daftar
  alamat anda dengan judul "Sebuah Kartu Untuk Anda" ( Une Carte Pour
  Vous ,
  atau A Card For You );
  "h begitu kartu virtual itu terbuka, virus itu akan membekukan
komputer
  sehingga penggunanya harus memulainya kembali; kalau anda menekan
  CTRL+ALT+DEL atau perintah untuk restart, virus itu akan merusak
  Zero dari
  Sektor Boot hard disk, sehingga hard disk akan rusak secara permanen.
  Menurut CNN, virus itu dalam beberapa jam sudah menimbulkan kepanikan
di
  New York.. Peringatan ini telah diterima oleh pegawai Microsoft
sendiri.
  Jangan membuka e-mail dengan judul "Sebuah kartu virtual untuk Anda"
  ( Une
  Carte Virtuelle Pour Vous atau A Virtual Card For You ).

  AWAS!!!
  Jangan terima kontak " pti_bout_de_ chou @hotmail.com ". Ini virus
yang
  akan memformat komputer anda. Kirimkan pesan ini ke semua orang yang
ada
  di dalam daftar alamat anda.
  Kalau anda tidak melakukannya dan salah seorang teman anda
memasukkannya
  dalam daftar alamatnya, komputer anda juga akan terkena.

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  Kepada teman - teman semuanya,
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  terbaca
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Anda
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  SEJENISNYA YA
  NG ADA DI DALAM PC anda, jenisvirus ini sangat merusak dan orang yang
  mengirimkanya akan mendapat namaakses, e-mail & password anda. Itu
  adalah
  jenis virus baru yang mulai padahari Sabtu malam dan belum ada anti
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RE: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[JsxTrader]

Moga-moga tertahan di 1472 Mbah (fibo 61,8%).., chart As per 10.23

 

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-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: 08 April 2009 10:07
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

 

BD mencoba menahan index

 

 

BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat

PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound

dari -10 ke -1

 

Saat ini -4 

 

Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu dana
besar.

 

 

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Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Rei]

Hehehe ya memang sih, kalo liburan memang baiknya jangan ada posisi (kecuali
saya kali ya [?]...habis, investor 4 life [?])
Antm semoga pak, saya memang perhatikan harga cukup kuat lah.
GBU.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:06 AM, JsxTrader  wrote:

>Untuk local, Bali still my favorite lah.., hampir setiap tahun kesana
> dan ngga pernah bosen.., Cuma jangan sekali-sekali ke Bali kalau lagi ada
> posisi…, liburan bisa rusak..hehe.., waktu crash agustus 2007 saya pas
> disana.., porto ancur.., yang ada bukannya enjoy malah merenungi nasib
> dipinggir pantai …., hahaha
>
>
>
> Anyway.., ANTM 1200 masih kuat tuh…, let see lah…, BD nunggu kita give up
> kali…, saya sih belagak bego aja dah…. I am still HOLD…., J
>
>
>
> JT
>
>
>
> *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Rei
> *Sent:* 08 April 2009 9:38
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
>
>
> Ah pak JT suka merendah nih... :-) I am sure you can travel anywhere
> anytime.
>
> Di Guam bagus juga pak katanya, teman saya ada yg disana (org Guam sih,
> baru datang ke jakarta blm lama ini)...cuma buat relaxing. Buat yg pikir
> Hawaii/Africa mungkin terlalu jauh, tapi Bali terlalu dekat hehe. Banyak
> turis Jepang di sana.
>
>
>
> Ngomong2 Antm <1200 tuh...Monggo buat yg belum masuk. Ptba malah sdh
> kuning.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:33 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
> Sure I love traveling, EL..., as a matter of fact I am now sick and tired
> so I need to take a vacation..., but it needs money.., and trading is one
> way to get it..., hehe...,
>
> jadi I am doing Trading for Traveling now Lolz
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>  --
>
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:26:20 +0700
>
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like
> traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway. Bring your
> wife and kids there, they'll like it.
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>  Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will
> do it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>  --
>
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700
>
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
> ARE YOU INVESTING?
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
> Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and
> iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come
> from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau
> ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
>
> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>  --
>
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
>
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> debt.
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
> Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>
> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>
> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>  --
>
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *That's right!
>
> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
> has the best drama TV series..
>
> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
> us.
>
> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>
> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Tu

Re: [ob] Saham GOCAPAN bangkit dari kuburan. Semua

[re...@trade]

Trub masih tidur - tiduran pak.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:09 AM, "::Pak_AA:":
wrote:

>
>  
>



-- 
Sent from gTrader

[ob] asri

[swan silo]

ASRI TERBANGGGgada info plss?



  Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat 
tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah. 
http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[Mo Cuan]

embah 
1. kalau harus ditahan, kenapa kuda-2 BUMI tidak dimainkan?
2. kenapa harus ditahan? kenapa tidak dibiarkan koreksi terjadi dengan "wajar" 
agar naiknya kemudian enak?

terimakasih
+++
mo cuan nyubi gak ngertos cara kerja BD.

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, jsx_consultant  wrote:

> From: jsx_consultant 
> 
> BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil
> rebound
> dari -10 ke -1
> 
> Saat ini -4 
> 
> Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham
> yg perlu dana besar.
> 
>


  

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[jsx_consultant]

Kalo berani ngangkat saham yg perlu dana gede berarti INFLOW
ke market, sebaliknya OUTFLOW meskipun index rebound.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "mh"  wrote:
>
> Mbah,
> 
> 
> Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
> Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa menuju ke utara.
> Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah, 
> Thanks
> Mh
> Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "jsx_consultant" 
> 
> Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22 
> To: 
> Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
> 
> 
> BD mencoba menahan index
> 
> 
> BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> dari -10 ke -1
> 
> Saat ini -4 
> 
> Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu dana 
> besar.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[ob] Re: BD mencoba menahan index

[jsx_consultant]

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "bejwatch"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Yang perlu dana besar maksudnya TLKM mbah???

TLKM salah satunya

Kalo naekin saham yg dananya kecil, cuman ILUSI doang...


> 
> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "jsx_consultant"
>  wrote:
> >
> > BD mencoba menahan index
> >
> >
> > BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> > PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> > dari -10 ke -1
> >
> > Saat ini -4
> >
> > Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu
> dana besar.
> >
>

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[agung aja]

Ride BUMI into Goceng like what you've ever said few months ago 
Show me Miss eLaine
Mbah and BD-ers will support then
Good luck
 
 
 
 
regards



From: Elaine Sui To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, April 8, 2009 9:14:02 AMSubject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY, ARE YOU INVESTING??? ?? Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? HeheAnyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
Powered by TLKM BullBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone


From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


That's right!Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything.. The US cannot create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best drama TV series.. Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.I have an interesting article, please read it.http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- pacts-with- china-korea. htmlElaine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to US & Europe... 



On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:





If I can summarize:1.. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic viewpoint 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from AsiaThat's how the recovery will work, right?Rgds,Yuta 
Powered by my VerryBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
"In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan, with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)Elaine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant  wrote:
Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLYTapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI- IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)- DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)El, What do you think ?.Will Indonesia, China and India market have different marketrally compared to US

Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[mh]

Mbah,


Kira2 apa maksud dari bd utk menahan indeks?
Padahal secara teknikal kita perlu koreksi agar indeks bisa menuju ke utara.
Apa ada kaitan ama pemilu yah, 
Thanks
Mh
Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®

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From: "jsx_consultant" 

Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 03:07:22 
To: 
Subject: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index


BD mencoba menahan index


BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
dari -10 ke -1

Saat ini -4 

Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu dana besar.







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[ob] Re: BD mencoba menahan index

[bejwatch]

Yang perlu dana besar maksudnya TLKM mbah???

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 wrote:
>
> BD mencoba menahan index
>
>
> BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
> PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
> dari -10 ke -1
>
> Saat ini -4
>
> Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu
dana besar.
>

[ob] Re: EXPORT TINS NAIK 30%

[Vic]

tapi harga timah masih disitu2 aja. margin masih tipis. q4 malah rugi karena 
beli inventory di harga tinggi dan jual pas harga jatuh. tunggu tins akumulasi 
inventory di harga rendah, terus jual di harga tingi saat ekonomi recover.



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>
> http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/dj-indonesia-march-tin-exports/story.aspx?guid={E81227AF-4C09-4D4A-B29B-081EE2AECBFB}&dist=msr_1
> 
> 
>   Wajib militer di Indonesia? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers! 
> http://id.answers.yahoo.com
>

[ob] Saham GOCAPAN bangkit dari kuburan. Semua

["::Pak_AA:":]

Re: [ob] BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih....

[frombuitenzorg]

Thanks Boss, masih diamati tingkah lakunya

Rgrds


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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 02:50:47 
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Beberapa hour ini monitor btel, eh pas market turun dan kayaknya ndak ada 
harapan malah terbang sendiri, lsg 18% lagi. BD-nya cari momen yg `pas` biar 
ndka ditumpangi orang
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From: "FromBuitenzorg" 

Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:55:33 
To: 
Subject: [ob] BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih


Nggak memperhatikan BTEL, tau2 udah 57, 58, 59 hehehe...cuma ragu itu naiknya 
beneran atau gimana ? Kalo dibeli balik lagi ke GOCAP nyesel, kalo gak dibeli 
tau2 udah CEPEK-an juga nyesel :p


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[ob] BD mencoba menahan index

[jsx_consultant]

BD mencoba menahan index


BD menahan kejatuhan index dengan mengangkat
PGAS 5,5%, MEDC 4,3% dan INCO 5,8% dan IHSG berhasil rebound
dari -10 ke -1

Saat ini -4 

Masih ditunggu kesungguhan BD untuk mengangkat saham saham yg perlu dana besar.

[ob] Hati 2 dgn new Virus Com yg blum ada vaksinnya !!!!

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Sebuah virus baru sudah ditemukan, dan digolongkan oleh Microsoft
  sebagai
  yang paling merusak! Virus itu baru ditemukan pada hari Minggu siang
  yang
  lalu oleh McAfee, dan belum ditemukan vaksin untuk mengalahkannya.
  Virus ini merusak Zero dari Sektor hard disc, yang menyimpan fungsi
  informasi-informasi terpenting. Virus ini berjalan sebagai berikut :
  "h secara otomatis virus ini akan terkirim ke semua nama dalam daftar
  alamat anda dengan judul "Sebuah Kartu Untuk Anda" ( Une Carte Pour
  Vous ,
  atau A Card For You );
  "h begitu kartu virtual itu terbuka, virus itu akan membekukan komputer
  sehingga penggunanya harus memulainya kembali; kalau anda menekan
  CTRL+ALT+DEL atau perintah untuk restart, virus itu akan merusak
  Zero dari
  Sektor Boot hard disk, sehingga hard disk akan rusak secara permanen.
  Menurut CNN, virus itu dalam beberapa jam sudah menimbulkan kepanikan di
  New York.. Peringatan ini telah diterima oleh pegawai Microsoft sendiri..
  Jangan membuka e-mail dengan judul "Sebuah kartu virtual untuk Anda"
  ( Une
  Carte Virtuelle Pour Vous atau A Virtual Card For You )..

  AWAS!!!
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  akan memformat komputer anda. Kirimkan pesan ini ke semua orang yang ada
  di dalam daftar alamat anda.
  Kalau anda tidak melakukannya dan salah seorang teman anda memasukkannya
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  SEJENISNYA YA
  NG ADA DI DALAM PC anda, jenisvirus ini sangat merusak dan orang yang
  mengirimkanya akan mendapat namaakses, e-mail & password anda. Itu
  adalah
  jenis virus baru yang mulai padahari Sabtu malam dan belum ada anti
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RE: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[JsxTrader]

Untuk local, Bali still my favorite lah.., hampir setiap tahun kesana dan
ngga pernah bosen.., Cuma jangan sekali-sekali ke Bali kalau lagi ada
posisi., liburan bisa rusak..hehe.., waktu crash agustus 2007 saya pas
disana.., porto ancur.., yang ada bukannya enjoy malah merenungi nasib
dipinggir pantai .., hahaha

 

Anyway.., ANTM 1200 masih kuat tuh., let see lah., BD nunggu kita give up
kali., saya sih belagak bego aja dah.. I am still HOLD.., J

 

JT

 

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rei
Sent: 08 April 2009 9:38
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 

Ah pak JT suka merendah nih... :-) I am sure you can travel anywhere
anytime.

Di Guam bagus juga pak katanya, teman saya ada yg disana (org Guam sih, baru
datang ke jakarta blm lama ini)...cuma buat relaxing. Buat yg pikir
Hawaii/Africa mungkin terlalu jauh, tapi Bali terlalu dekat hehe. Banyak
turis Jepang di sana.

 

Ngomong2 Antm <1200 tuh...Monggo buat yg belum masuk. Ptba malah sdh kuning.



 

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:33 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Sure I love traveling, EL..., as a matter of fact I am now sick and tired so
I need to take a vacation..., but it needs money.., and trading is one way
to get it..., hehe...,

jadi I am doing Trading for Traveling now Lolz

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From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:26:20 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like
traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway. Bring your
wife and kids there, they'll like it.

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will do
it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...

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From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
ARE YOU INVESTING? 

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and
iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come
from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau
ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe

Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?

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From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.

What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.

Elaine

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTraderT  wrote:

Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.

Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk
food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around you,
see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..

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From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700 


To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

That's right!

Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
has the best drama TV series.. 

Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

I have an interesting article, please read it.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-wit
h-china-korea.html

Elaine

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to
US & Europe...  

 

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
wrote:

If I can summarize:

1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of
this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy
bouncing back which they will start to (accumu

[ob] SOROS said: I TOLD U aka bear rally market, hehehehehe

[kelvin Chang]

tunggu aja kl index nyungsep lg, oom kite pasti omong gt dah
hehehehe



  

Re: [ob] BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih....

[widhie]

Beberapa hour ini monitor btel, eh pas market turun dan kayaknya ndak ada 
harapan malah terbang sendiri, lsg 18% lagi. BD-nya cari momen yg `pas` biar 
ndka ditumpangi orang
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 01:55:33 
To: 
Subject: [ob] BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih


Nggak memperhatikan BTEL, tau2 udah 57, 58, 59 hehehe...cuma ragu itu naiknya 
beneran atau gimana ? Kalo dibeli balik lagi ke GOCAP nyesel, kalo gak dibeli 
tau2 udah CEPEK-an juga nyesel :p


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Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[JsxTrader™]

Itu kan baru katanya, baru akan dan belum proven.., kita bicara realitas yg 
terjadi sekarang ini...

China banyak duit?? Yes, no question abuot it.., dari mana datengnya? From 
their customer.., siapa customer terbesarnya?.., you know the aswer lah...

Jadi kalau customernya bokek.., repot juga.., nah supaya si customer tetep bisa 
belanja.., boleh lah dikasih utang dulu.., why would you give your customer a 
credit??.., karena anda percaya bahwa mereka mampu untuk bayar... Nah, Ini yg 
terpenting 

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You will see when china transform into domestic economy. Now you see they have 
more money than before. 

US is only a fraction of their population, I'm sure one day, they do not have 
to depend on US. 

India and all asia are the market itself. 


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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:30:49 
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Aaah..., not to mention Facebook...LOLz..

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Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna 
consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.

Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do...,  I love their movie, music, junk 
food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around you, 
see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan 
to say we don't need them..., lolz..


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From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


*That's right!

Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
has the best drama TV series.. [?]

Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

I have an interesting article, please read it.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html

Elaine*

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
> to US & Europe...
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>
>>   If I can summarize:
>>
>> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of
>> this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
>> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
>> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
>> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
>> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as
>> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
>> viewpoint
>> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
>> from Asia
>>
>> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>>
>> Rgds,
>> Yuta
>>
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>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>
>> *
>>
>> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and
>> then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You
>> can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And
>> [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies
>> of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country,
>> effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD
>> (July 2nd, 2001)
>>
>> I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US
>> with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US
>> future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
>> with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
>> jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:
>>
>>> Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>>
>>>
>>> Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:
>>>
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI
>>>
>>> - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
>>> - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)
>>>
>>>

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Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[mh]

Pak Rei,

Terlepas china suka copy dan jago copy,
Mereka punya satu hal yang menyebabkan maju, yaitu kebiasaan hidup hemat.
Mereka melakukan saving, tapi ini terjadi pada generasi tua aja kira2 di atas 
40 thn yg sempet hidup susah.
Utk generasi di bawah itu yg ga hidup susah, mereka boros juga.
Dan kayaknya roda akan berputar sekarang saatnya abad asia, mungkin ketika asia 
redup, maka lokomotif ekonomi akan pindah ke afrika yg sekarang sedang susah 
bgt.

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:32:41 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Ya pak of course...cuma maksud saya memang gila China merajalela barangnya,
tapi itu kan order dari US/Jepang juga...they only know how to copy dan cost
mereka cheap.
Jepang juga dulu gitu, tp berhasil menjadi super power. China mungkin saja
ikut Jepang suatu hari...
US is still too powerfull now in terms of influence. Wah ngelantur nih
saya.. hehe

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>   Yes Sir, anak saya seneng banget sama Barbie, koleksinya selemari..,
> juga poly Pocket, Bratz, dll..., they all made in china.., sold milion and
> milion all over the world.., who's Idea is it..??..., tentunya US not
> china...
>
> Jadi menurut saya, mau tidak mau, suka tidak suka, US tetep merupakan
> bagian penting dari hidup kita...
>
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> --
> *From*: Rei
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:59:52 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
>  If you go to US or Japan, for example, MOST of the goods sold there say
> "Made in China"...those with American/Japanese names on them. In Disneyland,
> perhaps 99% of the merchandises sold there are China made.
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
>>   *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run
>> by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either
>> Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>>
>> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
>> debt.
>>
>> Elaine
>> **
>> * On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>>
>>> Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>>
>>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>>
>>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>>
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>>  *That's right!
>>>
>>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>>
>>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>>> us.
>>>
>>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>>
>>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>>
>>> Elaine*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>>
 So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
 to US & Europe...


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
 wrote:

>   If I can summarize:
>
> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region,
> particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including
> Indonesia
> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
> as
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
> viewpoint
> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive
> influences from Asia
>
> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>
> Rgds,
> Yuta
>
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *
>
> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
> and then you could

[ob] Lapkeu BNBR direvisi ada selisih 1 T

[Vernichtung]

Ralat Lapkeu, BEI Akan Periksa BNBR
  
ilustrasi
Logo PT Bakrie & Brothers Tbk
 
/
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Persen
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Efektif
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Back"
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 Selasa, 7 April 2009 | 10:48 WIB

*JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com *— Bursa Efek Indonesia kembali meneropong isi laporan
keuangan PT Bakrie & Brothers Tbk (BNBR). BEI ingin mengungkap latar
belakang induk usaha Grup Bakrie itu meralat nilai kerugian bersih dalam
laporan keuangan 2008.

Sebagai langkah pembuka, pekan ini BEI akan memeriksa auditor laporan
keuangan 2008 BNBR. Sebagai informasi, BNBR menunjuk Kantor Akuntan Publik
Doli, Bambang, Sudarmadji & Dadang selaku auditor laporan keuangan
konsolidasi BNBR tahun 2008.

BEI akan meminta penjelasan auditor mengenai latar belakang revisi nilai
kerugian BNBR. Maklum, revisi tersebut berselisih nyaris Rp 1 triliun.
"Paling lambat pekan ini akan kami periksa, kalau bisa secepatnya," kata
Direktur Pencatatan BEI Eddy Sugito, Senin (6/4).

Eddy mengakui, selisih nilai kerugian bersih BNBR tersebut memang sangat
besar. Apalagi, mereka melakukan revisi hanya berselang sehari setelah
laporan keuangan BNBR keluar. "Poin ini yang akan kami mintakan penjelasan,"
imbuhnya.

Sedikit berkilas balik, Jumat pekan lalu manajemen BNBR mengumumkan kerugian
bersih mereka mencapai Rp 16,62 triliun. Namun, sehari kemudian, BNBR
meralat nilai kerugian bersih menjadi Rp 15,86 triliun. Ini berarti,
kerugian induk usaha Grup Bakrie itu menyusut sekitar Rp 760 miliar.

Menurut Direktur BNBR Dileep Srivastava, penurunan nilai kerugian bersih
BNBR tersebut terjadi karena terdapat kesalahan dalam pencatatan kontribusi
laba anak perusahaan. Tadinya, laba dari anak usaha ini tercatat hanya Rp
582 miliar. Padahal, jumlah laba anak usaha yang benar adalah Rp 1,58
triliun.

Eddy mengatakan, selain auditor BNBR, BEI juga akan memeriksa manajemen
BNBR. "Pokoknya dari kedua belah pihak supaya tidak simpang siur," tuturnya.

Makanya, Eddy tidak ingin menduga-duga tentang alasan perubahan laporan
keuangan BNBR tersebut. Menurutnya, tim auditor tidak mungkin melakukan
keteledoran hanya karena alasan untuk memenuhi tenggat waktu alias *deadline
*penyerahan laporan keuangan.

Sebab, aturan di bursa sudah jelas. Emiten yang hingga 31 Maret belum
menyerahkan laporan keuangan, tetapi bisa memenuhinya pada April hanya akan
terkena surat peringatan. "Tapi, saya belum berani mengatakan indikasinya
apa, makanya kami harus ketemu dulu dengan mereka," ujarnya.

*BNBR akan patuh
*

Manajemen BNBR sendiri siap memenuhi panggilan BEI. "Kami menyerahkan
masalah ini kepada otoritas bursa," kata Dileep.

Dileep kembali menegaskan bahwa kesalahan pencatatan pos laba anak
perusahaan dalam laporan keuangan BNBR tahun 2008 adalah murni kesalahan
manusia.

Walau kerugian bersih BNBR menyusut, kerugian ini tetap saja mencatatkan
rekor sebagai kerugian terbesar emiten sepanjang sejarah pasar modal
Indonesia. Penyumbang terbesar kerugian BNBR berasal dari penjualan
kepemilikan saham di beberapa anak perusahaan. Dari pos ini saja, BNBR
merugi Rp 17,06 triliun.

Pengerek kerugian BNBR lainnya berasal dari beban rugi kurs yang lumayan
besar. Tahun lalu BNBR harus menelan rugi kurs sebesar Rp 526,5
miliar. *(Yuwono
Triatmodjo, Fitri Nur Arifenie/Kontan)*

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Vernichtung]

Yes besides producers we also need consumers, the thing is can the world
find new consumers that can consume what the producer can produce thus
stimulating economy of the producers and hopefully the consumers along with
it.

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Vernichtung]

Pak JT mah sukanya ke Crown di Melbourne, bisa main tek tok seperti di BEI
tapi lebih asik soalnya lebih cepat tek toknya hehehe.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Rei  wrote:

>  Ah pak JT suka merendah nih... :-) I am sure you can travel anywhere
> anytime.
> Di Guam bagus juga pak katanya, teman saya ada yg disana (org Guam sih,
> baru datang ke jakarta blm lama ini)...cuma buat relaxing. Buat yg pikir
> Hawaii/Africa mungkin terlalu jauh, tapi Bali terlalu dekat hehe. Banyak
> turis Jepang di sana.
>
> Ngomong2 Antm <1200 tuh...Monggo buat yg belum masuk. Ptba malah sdh
> kuning.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Rei]

Ah pak JT suka merendah nih... :-) I am sure you can travel anywhere
anytime.
Di Guam bagus juga pak katanya, teman saya ada yg disana (org Guam sih, baru
datang ke jakarta blm lama ini)...cuma buat relaxing. Buat yg pikir
Hawaii/Africa mungkin terlalu jauh, tapi Bali terlalu dekat hehe. Banyak
turis Jepang di sana.

Ngomong2 Antm <1200 tuh...Monggo buat yg belum masuk. Ptba malah sdh kuning.



On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:33 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>   Sure I love traveling, EL..., as a matter of fact I am now sick and
> tired so I need to take a vacation..., but it needs money.., and trading is
> one way to get it..., hehe...,
>
> jadi I am doing Trading for Traveling now Lolz
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:26:20 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like
> traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway. [?] Bring
> your wife and kids there, they'll like it.
>
> Elaine**
> *
>  On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>> Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will
>> do it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
>>
>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>  *Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track.
>> HEY, ARE YOU INVESTING? [?][?][?]
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>>
>>> Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
>>> and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
>>> come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
>>> kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
>>>
>>> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
>>> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
>>>
>>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
>>>
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>>*Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank
>>> run by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either
>>> Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>>>
>>> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
>>> debt.
>>>
>>> Elaine
>>> **
>>> * On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™ wrote:
>>>
 Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US,
 who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my
 dear.

 Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
 junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look 
 around
 you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is 
 too
 arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..

 Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone

 --
 *From*: Elaine Sui
 *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700

 *To*: 
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
  *That's right!

 Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
 product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
 create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
 technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
 tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and 
 Korea
 has the best drama TV series.. [?]

 Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
 us.

 I have an interesting article, please read it.

 http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html

 Elaine*

 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

> So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually
> spread to US & Europe...
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
> wrote:
>
>>   If I can summarize:
>>
>> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than
>> end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
>> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region,
>> particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including
>> Indonesia
>> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
>> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy 
>> resources as
>> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busie

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[conx_2003]

what about the price of commodity in U$, because from what i have noticed 
lately is the price of commodity is in line with DJ index, so if DJ index is 
going down, so will the price of commodity, if the prices of commodity fall so 
will IDX?

hope that im wrong hahaha
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
> ARE YOU INVESTING? [?][?][?]
> 
> Elaine*
> 
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
> 
> >  Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
> > and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
> > come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
> > kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
> >
> > Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
> > BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
> >
> > Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
> >
> > --
> > *From*: Elaine Sui
> > *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
> >
> > *To*: 
> > *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> > *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> > Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> > or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
> >
> > What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> > debt.
> >
> > Elaine
> > **
> > *On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
> >
> >>  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
> >> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
> >>
> >> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
> >> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look 
> >> around
> >> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is 
> >> too
> >> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
> >>
> >> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
> >>
> >> --
> >> *From*: Elaine Sui
> >> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
> >>
> >> *To*: 
> >> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> >> *That's right!
> >>
> >> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
> >> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
> >> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
> >> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
> >> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and 
> >> Korea
> >> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
> >>
> >> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
> >> us.
> >>
> >> I have an interesting article, please read it.
> >>
> >> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
> >>
> >> Elaine*
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
> >>
> >>>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
> >>> to US & Europe...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
> >>>
>  If I can summarize:
> 
>  1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
>  of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
>  2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
>  those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
>  3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
>  economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy 
>  resources as
>  SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and 
>  traffic
>  viewpoint
>  4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
>  from Asia
> 
>  That's how the recovery will work, right?
> 
>  Rgds,
>  Yuta
> 
>  Powered by my VerryBerry®
> 
>  --
>  *From*: Elaine Sui
>  *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
>  *To*: 
>  *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
>  *
> 
>  "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
>  and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
>  You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request 
>  help.
>  And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
>  policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
>  country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
>  BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)
> 
>  I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
>  US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively 
>  the 

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[JsxTrader™]

Sure I love traveling, EL..., as a matter of fact I am now sick and tired so I 
need to take a vacation..., but it needs money.., and trading is one way to get 
it..., hehe...,

jadi I am doing Trading for Traveling now Lolz
 
Powered by TLKM BullBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:26:20 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


*Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like
traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway. [?] Bring your
wife and kids there, they'll like it.

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>  Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will
> do it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> *Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
> ARE YOU INVESTING? [?][?][?]
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>>  Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
>> and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
>> come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
>> kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
>>
>> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
>> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
>>
>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
>> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
>> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>>
>> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
>> debt.
>>
>> Elaine
>> **
>> *On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>>
>>>  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US,
>>> who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my
>>> dear.
>>>
>>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>>
>>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>>
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>> *That's right!
>>>
>>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>>
>>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>>> us.
>>>
>>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>>
>>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>>
>>> Elaine*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>>
  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually
 spread to US & Europe...


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
 wrote:

> If I can summarize:
>
> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region,
> particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including
> Indonesia
> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
> as
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
> viewpoint
> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive
> influences from Asia
>
> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>
> Rgds,
> Yuta
>
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *
>
> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
> and then you could control that country. Today it's not neces

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Rei]

Ya pak of course...cuma maksud saya memang gila China merajalela barangnya,
tapi itu kan order dari US/Jepang juga...they only know how to copy dan cost
mereka cheap.
Jepang juga dulu gitu, tp berhasil menjadi super power. China mungkin saja
ikut Jepang suatu hari...
US is still too powerfull now in terms of influence. Wah ngelantur nih
saya.. hehe

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>   Yes Sir, anak saya seneng banget sama Barbie, koleksinya selemari..,
> juga poly Pocket, Bratz, dll..., they all made in china.., sold milion and
> milion all over the world.., who's Idea is it..??..., tentunya US not
> china...
>
> Jadi menurut saya, mau tidak mau, suka tidak suka, US tetep merupakan
> bagian penting dari hidup kita...
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Rei
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:59:52 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
>  If you go to US or Japan, for example, MOST of the goods sold there say
> "Made in China"...those with American/Japanese names on them. In Disneyland,
> perhaps 99% of the merchandises sold there are China made.
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
>>   *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run
>> by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either
>> Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>>
>> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
>> debt.
>>
>> Elaine
>> **
>> * On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>>
>>> Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>>
>>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>>
>>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>>
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>>  *That's right!
>>>
>>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>>
>>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>>> us.
>>>
>>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>>
>>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>>
>>> Elaine*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>>
 So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
 to US & Europe...


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
 wrote:

>   If I can summarize:
>
> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region,
> particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including
> Indonesia
> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
> as
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
> viewpoint
> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive
> influences from Asia
>
> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>
> Rgds,
> Yuta
>
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *
>
> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
> and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
> You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request 
> help.
> And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
> policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
> country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
> BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)
>
> I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
> US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
> US
> future is in the hand of China (it's the l

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Elaine Sui]

*JT masih bisa gain dari market US, buy Ultrashort Financial ProShares ETF
(code=SKF)

Elaine*

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:15 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>  Yes Sir, anak saya seneng banget sama Barbie, koleksinya selemari.., juga
> poly Pocket, Bratz, dll..., they all made in china.., sold milion and milion
> all over the world.., who's Idea is it..??..., tentunya US not china...
>
> Jadi menurut saya, mau tidak mau, suka tidak suka, US tetep merupakan
> bagian penting dari hidup kita...
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Rei
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:59:52 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> If you go to US or Japan, for example, MOST of the goods sold there say
> "Made in China"...those with American/Japanese names on them. In Disneyland,
> perhaps 99% of the merchandises sold there are China made.
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
>> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
>> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
>> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>>
>> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
>> debt.
>>
>> Elaine
>> **
>> *
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>>
>>> Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>>
>>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>>
>>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>>
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>> *That's right!
>>>
>>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>>
>>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>>> us.
>>>
>>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>>
>>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>>
>>> Elaine*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>>
 So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
 to US & Europe...


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
 wrote:

> If I can summarize:
>
> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region,
> particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including
> Indonesia
> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
> as
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
> viewpoint
> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive
> influences from Asia
>
> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>
> Rgds,
> Yuta
>
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *
>
> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
> and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
> You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request 
> help.
> And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
> policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
> country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
> BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)
>
> I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
> US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
> US
> future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding 
> Japan,
> with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)
>
> Elaine*
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
> jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:
>
>> Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET 

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Thomas Frederick]

yes.. cape town.. really really beautiful...
 
btw Elaine... today 4:1 or 4:2 if you think you lose yesterday? or 5:1 instead for 2day

Thank You! 
 
ThomaS FredericK--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Elaine Sui  wrote:
From: Elaine Sui Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLYTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:26 PM


Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway.  Bring your wife and kids there, they'll like it.Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Not really investing... , just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will do it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
Powered by TLKM BullBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY, ARE YOU INVESTING??? ?? Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? HeheAnyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
Powered by TLKM BullBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone


From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


That's right!Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best drama TV series.. Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.I have an interesting article, please read it.http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- pacts-with- china-korea. htmlElaine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to US & Europe... 



On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:





If I can summarize:1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic viewpoint 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from AsiaThat's how the recovery will work, right?Rgds,Yuta 
Powered by my VerryBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
"In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US with military forces, not even China or Russia

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Ferry Wachjudi]

Ampun dechAfrika?? Kalau mau exotic place di Indonesia juga 
buanyakkkand bisa2 EL paling cantik dan putih disana dech.hi...hi...hi


Thanks & Rgds,
Ferry W.

http://budidaya-jamur-tiram.blogspot.com/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elaine Sui 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


  Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like traveling, 
you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway.  Bring your wife and kids 
there, they'll like it.

  Elaine


  On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will 
do it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
Powered by TLKM BullBerry®



From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700

To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. 
HEY, ARE YOU INVESTING? 

Elaine


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

  Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod 
and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come 
from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau ngga 
ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe

  Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n 
BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
  Powered by TLKM BullBerry®


--
  From: Elaine Sui 
  Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700

  To: 
  Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

  Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by 
Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese or 
Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.

  What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own 
debt.

  Elaine


  On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, 
who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.

Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, 
junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around 
you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too 
arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..

Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone



From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700

To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

That's right!

Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any 
product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot 
create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology 
students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal 
mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best 
drama TV series.. 

Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant 
to us.

I have an interesting article, please read it.

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html

Elaine


On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually 
spread to US & Europe... 



  On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
 wrote:

If I can summarize:

1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than 
end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, 
particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast 
China economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic 
viewpoint 
4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive 
influences from Asia

That's how the recovery will work, right?

Rgds,
Yuta 

Powered by my VerryBerry®



From: Elaine Sui 
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY



"In the old days you needed

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Thomas Frederick]

yes.. cape town.. really really beautiful...
 
btw Elaine... today 4:1 or 4:2 if you think you lose yesterday? or 5:1 instead for 2day?

Thank You! 
 
ThomaS FredericK--- On Tue, 4/7/09, Elaine Sui  wrote:
From: Elaine Sui Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLYTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 9:26 PM


Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway.  Bring your wife and kids there, they'll like it.Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Not really investing... , just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will do it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
Powered by TLKM BullBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY, ARE YOU INVESTING??? ?? Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? HeheAnyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
Powered by TLKM BullBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.Elaine
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music, junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone


From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700


To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


That's right!Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best drama TV series.. Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.I have an interesting article, please read it.http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- pacts-with- china-korea. htmlElaine
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to US & Europe... 



On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:





If I can summarize:1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic viewpoint 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from AsiaThat's how the recovery will work, right?Rgds,Yuta 
Powered by my VerryBerry®


From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
"In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US with military forces, not even China or Russi

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[eddytj99]

Mid-year rebound forecast
By Wang Bo (China Daily)
Updated: 2009-04-08 07:43
Comments(0) PrintMail

The government's $586-billion stimulus package may be strong enough to drive 
the economy to an early rebound in the middle of this year, the World Bank said 
yesterday, adding a caveat that a full recovery ultimately depends on 
developments in the advanced economies.

"Fueled largely by the huge economic stimulus package, a recovery in China is 
likely to begin this year and take full hold in 2010, contributing to the 
region's stabilization," the bank said in its latest semi-annual report on the 
economic health of East Asia and the Pacific region.

"A wide range of economic indicators in China are improving," indicating that a 
recovery is underway, said Vikram Nehru, the World Bank's chief economist for 
the East Asia and Pacific region.
..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui  wrote:
>
> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
> 
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.
> 
> Elaine
> **
> *On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
> 
> >  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
> > gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
> >
> > Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
> > junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
> > you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
> > arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
> >
> > Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
> >
> > --
> > *From*: Elaine Sui
> > *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
> >
> > *To*: 
> > *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> > *That's right!
> >
> > Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
> > product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
> > create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
> > technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
> > tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
> > has the best drama TV series.. [?]
> >
> > Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
> > us.
> >
> > I have an interesting article, please read it.
> >
> > http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
> >
> > Elaine*
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
> >
> >>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
> >> to US & Europe...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
> >>
> >>> If I can summarize:
> >>>
> >>> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
> >>> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> >>> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
> >>> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
> >>> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
> >>> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
> >>> as
> >>> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
> >>> viewpoint
> >>> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
> >>> from Asia
> >>>
> >>> That's how the recovery will work, right?
> >>>
> >>> Rgds,
> >>> Yuta
> >>>
> >>> Powered by my VerryBerry®
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *From*: Elaine Sui
> >>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> >>> *To*: 
> >>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> >>>
> >>> *
> >>>
> >>> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and
> >>> then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You
> >>> can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. 
> >>> And
> >>> [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the 
> >>> policies
> >>> of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country,
> >>> effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN
> >>> MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)
> >>>
> >>> I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
> >>> US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
> >>> US
> >>> future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding 
> >>> Japan,
> >>> with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)
> >>>
> >>> Elaine*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
> >>> jsx-consult...@...> wrote:
> >>>
>  Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> 
> 
>  Tapi kalo k

Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)---ANTM- thanks to all

[susanti sutrisno]

Thanks to all of you (Pak JT, P "indeksbei3000", P "bursa" dkk) atas
komentar/masukannya. Thanks jg tuk Embah,...Supermarket OB memang TOP
BGT

salam,
santi

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> Harus dipikirin juga tuh biar bisa balik modal
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> Teruuusss...!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: susanti sutrisno 
>
> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 18:12:19
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)---ANTM- Pak
> JT
>
>
> Banyak atau sedikit khan relatif ya pak Bei..tp saya punya  juga yang
> di 1060 disamping yg msh nyangkut diatas (4425, 3900 dan 1800
> hiks..hiks..).
> Mohon pencerahannya...
>
> thanks
> santi
>
> 2009/4/7, indeksbei3...@gmail.com :
>> Ibu Santi nambah banyak apa nambah sedikit ?
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung
>> Teruuusss...!
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>> -Original Message-
>> From: susanti sutrisno 
>>
>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 17:35:30
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)---ANTM-
>> Pak
>> JT
>>
>>
>> Pak JT, bgmn ya ANTM nya... kmrn nambah di 1280, msh kuat ga pak?
>> thanks
>>
>> santi
>>
>> 2009/4/7, JsxTrader™ :
>>> Saya masih HOLD, looks like 1200 support kuat, so far saya masih
>>> confident.., kalau BD ngga rela liat saya cuan, die harus close antm
>>> dibawah
>>> 1200..., let see seberapa pelit om BD .., hehehe
>>>
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>>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:45:32
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)
>>>
>>>
>>> Prof antm gimana..?? Udah entry di 1270 kemaren .. Hold or CL
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>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 03:34:27
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)
>>>
>>>
>>> Entry lah.., ini koreksi biasa aja.., namanya juga di resistant area,
>>> memang
>>> kita expect bakal ada penolakan di area skrn ini, tapi so far belum ada
>>> signal yg mengkhawatirkan..., kalau bertahan diatas 1510 for few days,
>>> we
>>> are heading to 1600'an soon..., ane dah pecahin celengan, dan siap
>>> trading
>>> dgn frame weekly to monthly..., konfirmasi jika close diatas 1650'an
>>> lah...,
>>> otherwise, masih cipet sana-cipet sini.., hehe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Elaine Sui 
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 10:21:03
>>> To: 
>>> Subject: Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)
>>>
>>>
>>> *You mean entry plan...?
>>>
>>> Elaine**
>>> *
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:06 AM, jsx_consultant <
>>> jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:
>>>
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 >   - Original Message -
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 >   Subject: Re: [ob] ASK: to technical traders (about correction)
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 >   On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Rei  wrote:
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 > Till yesterday, it's only 4:0...3 more to go!
 > Are you planning to take any bet again with OBer? :-))
 >
 >
 > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Elaine Sui 
 > wrote:
 >
 >   From your technical perspective, can we expect a correction for
 today or tomorrow, and how deep? Thanks.
 >
 >   Elaine
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Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[JsxTrader™]

One more thing, EL.., punya banyak hutang artinya Credibel.., don't forget 
that.., hehe..

Well.., tau ahh.., puyeng mikirin urusan begituan, mending mikir saham 
aja..., saham apa nih yg mau kita sikat??

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-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


*Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
ARE YOU INVESTING? [?][?][?]

Elaine*

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>  Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
> and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
> come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
> kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
>
> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> debt.
>
> Elaine
> **
> *On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>>  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>
>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>
>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>> *That's right!
>>
>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>
>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>> us.
>>
>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>
>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>
>>>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
>>> to US & Europe...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>>>
 If I can summarize:

 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
 of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
 those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
 economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
 as
 SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
 viewpoint
 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
 from Asia

 That's how the recovery will work, right?

 Rgds,
 Yuta

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 --
 *From*: Elaine Sui
 *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
 *To*: 
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 *

 "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
 and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
 You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help.
 And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
 policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
 country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
 BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)

 I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
 US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
 US
 future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
 with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)

 Elaine*


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Elaine Sui]

*Don't you want anything else to do instead of trading? things like
traveling, you know Africa is a very exotic place for getaway. [?] Bring your
wife and kids there, they'll like it.

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>  Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will
> do it weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> *Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
> ARE YOU INVESTING? [?][?][?]
>
> Elaine*
>
> On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>>  Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
>> and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
>> come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
>> kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
>>
>> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
>> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
>>
>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
>> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
>> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>>
>> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
>> debt.
>>
>> Elaine
>> **
>> *On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>>
>>>  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US,
>>> who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my
>>> dear.
>>>
>>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>>
>>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>>
>>> *To*: 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>> *That's right!
>>>
>>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>>
>>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>>> us.
>>>
>>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>>
>>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>>
>>> Elaine*
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>>
  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually
 spread to US & Europe...


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano 
 wrote:

> If I can summarize:
>
> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
> of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region,
> particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including
> Indonesia
> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
> as
> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
> viewpoint
> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive
> influences from Asia
>
> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>
> Rgds,
> Yuta
>
> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
> *
>
> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
> and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
> You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request 
> help.
> And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
> policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
> country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
> BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)
>
> I quote him coz this

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[JsxTrader™]

Yes Sir, anak saya seneng banget sama Barbie, koleksinya selemari.., juga poly 
Pocket, Bratz, dll..., they all made in china.., sold milion and milion all 
over the world.., who's Idea is it..??..., tentunya US not china...

Jadi menurut saya, mau tidak mau, suka tidak suka, US tetep merupakan bagian 
penting dari hidup kita...

 
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-Original Message-
From: Rei 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:59:52 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


If you go to US or Japan, for example, MOST of the goods sold there say
"Made in China"...those with American/Japanese names on them. In Disneyland,
perhaps 99% of the merchandises sold there are China made.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Elaine Sui  wrote:

>   *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run
> by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either
> Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> debt.
>
> Elaine
> **
> * On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>> Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>
>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>
>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>  *That's right!
>>
>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>
>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>> us.
>>
>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>
>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>
>>> So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
>>> to US & Europe...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>>>
   If I can summarize:

 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
 of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
 those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
 economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
 as
 SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
 viewpoint
 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
 from Asia

 That's how the recovery will work, right?

 Rgds,
 Yuta

 Powered by my VerryBerry®

 --
 *From*: Elaine Sui
 *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
 *To*: 
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 *

 "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
 and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
 You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help.
 And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
 policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
 country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
 BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)

 I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
 US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
 US
 future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
 with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)

 Elaine*


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
 jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

> Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
>
> Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI
>
> - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
> - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)
>
>

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[vaulstrad]

You will see when china transform into domestic economy. Now you see they have 
more money than before. 

US is only a fraction of their population, I'm sure one day, they do not have 
to depend on US. 

India and all asia are the market itself. 


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-Original Message-
From: "JsxTrader™" 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:30:49 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Aaah..., not to mention Facebook...LOLz..

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-Original Message-
From: "JsxTrader™" jsxtra...@yahoo.com

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 01:17:36 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna 
consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.

Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do...,  I love their movie, music, junk 
food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around you, 
see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan 
to say we don't need them..., lolz..


Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone

-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


*That's right!

Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
has the best drama TV series.. [?]

Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.

I have an interesting article, please read it.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html

Elaine*

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:

>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
> to US & Europe...
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>
>>   If I can summarize:
>>
>> 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of
>> this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
>> 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
>> those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
>> 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
>> economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as
>> SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
>> viewpoint
>> 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
>> from Asia
>>
>> That's how the recovery will work, right?
>>
>> Rgds,
>> Yuta
>>
>> Powered by my VerryBerry®
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>
>> *
>>
>> "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and
>> then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You
>> can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And
>> [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies
>> of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country,
>> effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD
>> (July 2nd, 2001)
>>
>> I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US
>> with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US
>> future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
>> with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
>> jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:
>>
>>> Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>>>
>>>
>>> Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:
>>>
>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI
>>>
>>> - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
>>> - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)
>>>
>>> El, What do you think ?.
>>>
>>> Will Indonesia, China and India market have different market
>>> rally compared to US market ? Will the world's indexes decouple ?.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
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>>>
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>
>
> 
>

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[ob] BTEL Naik beneran atau pura2 sih....

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Nggak memperhatikan BTEL, tau2 udah 57, 58, 59 hehehe...cuma ragu itu naiknya 
beneran atau gimana ? Kalo dibeli balik lagi ke GOCAP nyesel, kalo gak dibeli 
tau2 udah CEPEK-an juga nyesel :p


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Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[JsxTrader™]

Not really investing..., just trading longer.., no more daily lah.., will do it 
weekly.., maybe montly if the market get even better...
 
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-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui 

Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 09:14:02 
To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY


*Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
ARE YOU INVESTING? [?][?][?]

Elaine*

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>  Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
> and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
> come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
> kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
>
> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> debt.
>
> Elaine
> **
> *On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>>  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>
>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>
>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>> *That's right!
>>
>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>
>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>> us.
>>
>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>
>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>
>>>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
>>> to US & Europe...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>>>
 If I can summarize:

 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
 of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
 those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
 economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
 as
 SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
 viewpoint
 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
 from Asia

 That's how the recovery will work, right?

 Rgds,
 Yuta

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 --
 *From*: Elaine Sui
 *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
 *To*: 
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 *

 "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
 and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
 You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help.
 And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
 policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
 country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
 BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)

 I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
 US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
 US
 future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
 with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)

 Elaine*


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
 jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

> Soros bilang: Ini masi

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[dario kurniawan]

Gw rasa si elaine yang pegang data konkrit...bank dunia udah bilang cina itu kuat ekonominya..tau dari mana mereka..yang jelas mereka punya data...Data is VVIP thing at this moment..Dario Amran--- Pada Rab, 8/4/09, JsxTrader™  menulis:Dari: JsxTrader™ Topik: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLYKepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTanggal: Rabu, 8 April, 2009, 9:08 AM








   Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important.., kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? HeheAnyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?Powered by TLKM BullBerry®From:  Elaine Sui Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY  Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food. What? Pirated movie?
 that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.ElaineOn Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do...,  I love their movie, music, junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..Sent from my BullBerry® smartphoneFrom:  Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY  That's right!Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best drama TV series.. Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.I have an interesting article, please read it.http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- pacts-with- china-korea. htmlElaineOn Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to US &
 Europe... On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:If I can summarize:1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from
 trading amount and traffic viewpoint 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from AsiaThat's how the recovery will work, right?Rgds,Yuta Powered by my VerryBerry®From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY"In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
 policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)   I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan, with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)   ElaineOn Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant  wrote:Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLYTapi kalo kita perhatikan
 pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI   - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)- DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)El, What do you think ?.Will Indonesia, China and India market have different marketrally compared to US market ? Will the world's indexes decouple ?.

Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

[Elaine Sui]

*Innovation is another thing. For Antam and BUMI they're still on track. HEY,
ARE YOU INVESTING? [?][?][?]

Elaine*

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:

>  Yes mom.., they all made in china, but the inovation came from US, iPod
> and iPhone are the example.., what I am going to say, the 'think' is still
> come from the USA.., at least until now..., and that's very important..,
> kalau ngga ada inovation, apa yg mau di produce and di jual?? Hehe
>
> Anyway.., whatever lah, I really don't care, all I care now is our ANTM n
> BUMI..., gimana EL, still on track?
>
> Powered by TLKM BullBerry®
>
> --
> *From*: Elaine Sui
> *Date*: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 08:54:28 +0700
>
> *To*: 
> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
> *Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by
> Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese
> or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
>
> What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own
> debt.
>
> Elaine
> **
> *On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:
>
>>  Yea..yea..yea..., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's
>> gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.
>>
>> Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do..., I love their movie, music,
>> junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc..., point is, look around
>> you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too
>> arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
>>
>> Sent from my BullBerry® smartphone
>>
>> --
>> *From*: Elaine Sui
>> *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700
>>
>> *To*: 
>> *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>> *That's right!
>>
>> Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any
>> product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot
>> create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and
>> technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field,
>> tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea
>> has the best drama TV series.. [?]
>>
>> Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to
>> us.
>>
>> I have an interesting article, please read it.
>>
>> http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/03/25/asean-ink-investment-pacts-with-china-korea.html
>>
>> Elaine*
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
>>
>>>  So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread
>>> to US & Europe...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano wrote:
>>>
 If I can summarize:

 1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end
 of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet
 2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary
 those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
 3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China
 economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources 
 as
 SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic
 viewpoint
 4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences
 from Asia

 That's how the recovery will work, right?

 Rgds,
 Yuta

 Powered by my VerryBerry®

 --
 *From*: Elaine Sui
 *Date*: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700
 *To*: 
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY

 *

 "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force,
 and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all.
 You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help.
 And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the
 policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a
 country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR
 BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)

 I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the
 US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the 
 US
 future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan,
 with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)

 Elaine*


 On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant <
 jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id> wrote:

> Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
>
>
> Tapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI
>
> - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)
> - DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower Hi

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[Asep Buhori]

Prof JT might be forgot...US has many sexy girls too..he3xDari: Elaine Sui Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTerkirim: Rabu, 8 April, 2009 08:54:28Topik: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY









Well, what you mention below are manufactured in China, your bank run by Indian. Facebook and other media is owned by Jews, you drive either Japanese or Korean car which consumes Arab oil, and you eat local food.
What? Pirated movie? that goes to China too.. lolz.. American only own debt.ElaineOn Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:17 AM, JsxTrader™  wrote:









 

Yea..yea..yea. .., china can produce about anything, but without US, who's gonna consume?? Hehe..., come on EL, you know better than that my dear.Who's gonna need US?? I DO..., Yes, I do...,  I love their movie, music, junk food, gadget, books, Mac, Nike, etc..etc..etc. .., point is, look around you, see how your live is closely 'related' to Uncle Sam..., IMHO, it is too arogan to say we don't need them..., lolz..
Sent from my BullBerry® smartphoneFrom:  Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0700To: 
Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY  That's right!Asia will survive without the US and Eurozone. China can produce any product, from cars, electronics, weapons, movies, everything. The US cannot create cheap labor like the Chinese. India has the most economic and technology students in the World. Indonesia has the biggest palm oil field, tin and coal mines. Japan has the most advanced robotic technology and Korea has the best drama TV series.. 
Who need US? lolz really nowaday it becomes less and less significant to us.I have an interesting article, please read it.http://www.thejakar tapost.com/ news/2009/ 03/25/asean- ink-investment- pacts-with- china-korea. html
ElaineOn Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Rei  wrote:
 So the recovery would be led/started in Asia and would eventually spread to US & Europe... On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Yuta Tiziano  wrote:

If I can summarize:1. China economy will recover mid-year (optimist) or not later than end of this year (pesimist) helped by the gigantic stimulus packet2. The snowball effect will spread all over the Asia region, particulary those countries who export commodities to China, including Indonesia
   3. Indonesia economic (read: stock) will be depending how fast China economy bouncing back which they will start to (accumulate) buy resources as SEA-China trade is one fo the most busiest from trading amount and traffic viewpoint 
   4. And bit by bit, US economic will get its multiple positive influences from AsiaThat's how the recovery will work, right?Rgds,Yuta Powered by my VerryBerry®
From: Elaine Sui Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:08:31 +0700To: Subject: Re: [ob] Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLY
   "In the old days you needed to conquer a country with military force, and then you could control that country. Today it's not necessary at all. You can destabilize a country, make it poor, and then make it request help. And [in exchange] for the help that is given, you gain control over the policies of the country, and when you gain control over the policies of a country, effectively you have colonized that country." - DR. MAHATHIR BIN MOHAMMAD (July 2nd, 2001)
  I quote him coz this is what happens to the US. No country can beat the US with military forces, not even China or Russia. Today, effectively the US future is in the hand of China (it's the largest creditor, exceeding Japan, with more than $700 bil of T-Bonds.)
  ElaineOn Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 6:47 PM, jsx_consultant  wrote:
Soros bilang: Ini masih BEAR MARKET RALLYTapi kalo kita perhatikan pola wave IHSG dan DJI berbeda:http://finance. yahoo.com/ q/bc?t=2y&s=%5EJKSE&l=off&z=l&q=l&c=&c=%5EDJI
  - IHSG bentuk last wavenya: UPTREND (Higher Low + Higher High)- DJI bentuk last wavenya: masih DOWNTREND (Lower High + Lower Low)El, What do you think ?.Will Indonesia, China and India market have different market
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