Re: [ob] Re: BUMI: Update (Closing)
mau pak 2009/11/26 I_R_G_7_I ruzli...@gmail.com Ada, EW Prognosis ... Mau ? 2009/11/26 ryu valiant ryuvali...@yahoo.com mbah emang ada ya plugin elliot wave otomatis dari MS??? --- On *Wed, 11/25/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id*wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [ob] Re: BUMI: Update (Closing) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 5:20 PM Hari ini embah bergairah karena ini hari pertama embah gunakan Elliott Wave pada chart 5 menitan yg otomatis. Selama ini kan datanya embah input manual (30 menit) Embah EXCITED banget mengAPPLY Elliott Wave pada RIPPLE WAVE, yaitu RIAK RIAK gelombang harga pada chart 5 menit... Sebenarnya, Mr Dow bilang RIPPLE WAVE ini terlalu banyak noisenya, karena MARKET BEHAVIOUR berubah jadi market KELAKUAN BANDAR... Dan ini menimbulkan pertanyaan apakah Elliott Wave berlaku pada case seperti ini ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, sasha winata sashawinata@ ... wrote: hari ini mbah keliatan nya agresif+bergairah banget,apakah termasuk TAL? Slm S NB:agresif+bergaira h nulis. --- On Wed, 11/25/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Subject: [ob] Re: BUMI: Update (Closing) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comhttp://mc/compose?to=obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 9:41 AM Â Meskipun hari ini BUMI -25, tapi secara technical terjadi perubahan Momentum: - Downtrend momentum mencapai puncaknya pada lingkaran merah - Dan berganti arah menjadi Upward momentum (garis hijau dibawah) http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi5. png Menurut Bill William, Sebaiknya jangan suka trading pada Correction Wave, karena tingkah laku Correction wave paling sukar untuk dimengerti. Konsentrasilah Trading pada Wave 3 dan Wave 5 Jadi pembahasan Elliott Wave hari ini termasuk sulit dibanding pembahasan Wave 1 dan 2 dan 5. Kalo anda perhatikan indicator momentum BUMI maka lingkaran merah, ini adalah tanda Wave 3. Pada Correction Wave C, terlihat ada impulse wave 3, BERARTI ini bisa ditradingkan tapi untuk Trading NgeShort. Tapi untuk menghasilkan hasil yg OPTIMAL saat trading: - Cari saham dengan Impulse wave of UPPER degree (saham yg long term uptrend) - Identifikasikan Wave 3,5 yg SEARAH dengan MOTIVE wave diatas, jadi trading SEARAH dengan MOTOR FUNDAMENTAL dan arah MARKET - Gunakan Aliggator untuk mencari segmen waktu dimana saham tsb sedang memasuki impulse wave. - Impulse Wave SELALU berada diatas ALLIGATOR untuk posisi LONG, jadi SANGAT MUDAH... Note: - Saat ini market/ihsg lagi TOPPING jadi mencari saham diatas agak sukar tapi saat market bullish lagi, petunjuk diatas bisa jadi pedoman sederhana dan praktis Note: Investing and Trading is EASY and SIMPLE kalo kita sabar menunggu musim Bullish datang. Kalo susah, artinya anda maen saham pada musim PACEKLIK. Alias saatnya jualan siomay... HAHAHA... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: Kalo anda perhatikan nomor2 wave berubah berubah, sesuai dengan gerakan market. Inilah yg membuat orang frustasi dengan elliott wave. Tapi jangan takut, hanya Elliott Wave satu satunya TOOL yg bisa menggambarkan gerakan DAN PERILAKU market. Jadi kalo anda engga mau pake EW, anda kehilangan TOOL yg TERBAIK saat ini... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi5. png --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: BUMI: Update http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi5. png - Garis pada Momentun sudah mulai naik (garis hijau) Kemungkinan ini subwave 1 of wave 3 merah
Re: Bls: [ob] AYO... kalahkan ITALY..!
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] mudah2 an ngak ada yg keselek ama bumi ya.
Wah.. besok AR lagi. Saham ajaib. Merugikan banyak orang, tapi dicintai banyak orang pula. On 12/4/08, indra devista [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2008/12/04/152154/1048148/6/bei-tak-restui-penerbitan-mtn-bumi Kamis, 04/12/2008 15:21 WIB BEI Tak Restui Penerbitan MTN BUMI *Indro Bagus SU* - detikFinance *J**akarta* - Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI) meminta aksi pembelian kembali (buy back) saham Rp 8,246 triliun PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) tidak menggunakan surat utang jangka menengah (medium term notes/MTN). Kita sudah bicara dengan mereka, dan bursa meminta untuk tidak mengeluarkan MTN, kata Direktur Utama BEI Erry Firmansyah di kantornya, SCBD, Jakarta, Kamis (4/12/2008). Menurut Erry, aksi buy back harus dilakukan dengan menggunakan kas internal bukan melalui MTN. Hal itu dinilai bertentangan dengan UU No.40/2007 tentang Perseroan Terbatas. Sebaiknya buy back itu kan tidak dengan utang, tapi dari dana internal, katanya. Selama periode tiga bulan sejak 14 November 2008 hingga 13 Februari 2009, BUMI berencana melakukan aksi buy back 3.298.680.000 saham (17%) dengan harga rata-rata Rp 2.500 per saham senilai Rp 8,246 triliun (US$ 824,67 juta). Perseroan sedang mengupayakan pinjaman pihak ketiga sebesar US$ 600 juta. Sisanya US$ 224 juta akan diambil dari kas internal perseroan. Sampai saat ini perseroan telah memperoleh pinjaman US$ 75 juta dari Credit Suisse dan sedang dalam proses penyelesaian perjanjian dengan kreditur lainnya, jelas Dileep dalam keterbukaan informasi 19 November 2008. Dileep menjelaskan, pinjaman Credit Suisse tersebut akan digunakan untuk membiayai rencana pembelian kembali saham itu. Sebagaimana diberitakan detikFinance sebelumnya, Direktur BUMI Eddie J Soebari menjelaskan bahwa pinjaman tersebut diperoleh dengan memberi opsi pada kreditur untuk membeli saham yang dijaminkan berdasarkan perjanjian kredit. Saham perseroan yang dibeli dengan dana tersebut akan digadaikan terhadap fasilitas tersebut, ujar Eddie. Rupanya, BUMI akan menjaminkan saham yang akan dibeli kembali untuk memperoleh pinjaman yang akan digunakan untuk buy back. Akrobat gadai saham seperti itu tampaknya sudah menjadi ciri khas skema pendanaan grup Bakrie, terutama BNBR sebagai induk usaha. Sementara pengamat pasar modal Edwin Sinaga mengatakan, langkah BEI menyarankan tidak menggunakan MTN untuk membiayai aksi buy back BUMI merupakan langkah tepat. Pasalnya, bunga dan pokok utang yang dikeluarkan BUMI akan semakin membebani perseroan. Langkah ini dinilai akan semakin mengganggu kinerja fundamental perseroan. Dampak selanjutnya akan merugikan para pemegang saham, katanya.*(dro/ir) * -- Wajib militer di Indonesia? Temukan jawabannya di Yahoo! Answers!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Portfolio George Soros juga kebakaran
Mbah memang hebat Coba Soros jadi member milis di sini. Terima kasih Mbah sudah membimbing kami semua. On 11/25/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coba kalo liat web embah, Soros harusnya SELL bukan BUY saat DJ masih 11000... Pada saat DJI masih 11000 (akhir September), embah udah suruh TUTUP REKENING terus JUALAN SIOMAI... http://www.invest2000.net/pwlihsg.png Gambar ini belon dihapus BUAT KENANG KENANGAN... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, simon bolenang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George SorosJump to Another Guru:Arnold SchneiderArnold Van Den BergBill AckmanBill MillerBill NygrenBrian RogersBruce BerkowitzBruce ShermanCarl IcahnCharles BrandesChris DavisChuck AkreDavid DremanDavid EinhornDavid SwensenDavid TepperDavid WilliamsDavid WintersDodge CoxEdward LampertEdward OwensGeorge SorosGlenn GreenbergHOTCHKIS WILEYIan CummingIrving KahnJean-Marie EveillardJoel GreenblattJohn HussmanJohn KeeleyJohn RogersKen HeebnerKenneth FisherMark HillmanMartin WhitmanMason HawkinsMichael PriceMohnish PabraiNWQ ManagersPrem WatsaPRIMECAP ManagementRichard Aster JrRichard PerryRichard PzenaRichard SnowRobert BruceRobert OlsteinRobert RodriguezRon BaronRonald MuhlenkampRuane CunniffSarah KettererSeth KlarmanSteve MandelT Boone PickensThird Avenue ManagementTom GaynerTweedy BrowneWallace WeitzWarren BuffettProfileRecent Buys/SellsCurrent PortfolioShareholder LettersIndustry Weighting George Soros (Buys Sells HoldingsIndustry Weightings) Trades with : Go To Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10NEXT LAST (Total: 180 Pages) Ticker CompanyPicked ByDate (?) Action All New/add New buys Add only All sells Sold out Reduce Impact to Portfolio (?) Price Range (Average)* (?) Current Price Change from Average Comment Current Shares PBR Petroleo... George Soros 2008-09-30 Add (history)15.22%$44.81 - $65.72 ($52.5) $ 19.31-63%Add 84.84%21,177,237 POT Potash C... George Soros 2008-09-30 Add (history)7.49%$147.36 - $220.99 ($183.4) $ 59.64-67%Add 91.17%3,341,027 WMT WalMart ... George Soros 2008-09-30 Add (history)6.78%$56.06 - $62.41 ($58.7) $ 52.77-10%Add 518.68%3,791,890 HES Hess Cor... George Soros 2008-09-30 Add (history)4.48%$89.53 - $119.4 ($99.5) $ 50.06-50%Add 276.7%2,085,988 RIMM Research... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 3.92%$70.76 - $133.75 ($113.7) $ 45.26-60%New holding, 1610810 sh.1,610,810 ACI Arch Coa... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 3.37%$35.57 - $66.55 ($50.8) $ 13.7-73%New holding, 2877486 sh.2,877,486 IYR iShares ... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 2.87%$58.13 - $66.35 ($62.1) $ 31.35-50%New holding, 130 sh.1,300,000 NASDAQ 1... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 2.77%$41.08 - $48.13 ($44.9) $ 28.3-37%New holding, 200 sh.2,000,000 SLB Schlumbe... George Soros 2008-09-30 Add (history)1.22%$85.79 - $101.66 ($94.3) $ 46.39-51%Add 400%545,000 CNX CONSOL E... George Soros 2008-09-30 Add (history)1.1%$49.08 - $99.82 ($70.3) $ 24.88-65%Add 427.63%833,658 WLL Whiting ... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.94%$77.9 - $103.93 ($89.1) $ 35.55-60%New holding, 370017 sh.370,017 GSL Global S... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.85%$6.1 - $7.37 ($6.8) $ 2.57-62%New holding, 375 sh.3,750,000 SU Suncor E... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.75%$45.37 - $60.12 ($52.8) $ 18.49-65%New holding, 503000 sh.503,000 CHK Chesapea... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.74%$37.86 - $66.65 ($48.6) $ 18.26-62%New holding, 579000 sh.579,000 BBY Best Buy... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.73%$37.46 - $46.65 ($41.7) $ 19.89-52%New holding, 547000 sh.547,000 BWLD Buffalo ... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.67%$24.72 - $42.93 ($34.2) $ 19.35-43%New holding, 465973 sh.465,973 ELX Emulex C... George Soros 2008-09-30 Add (history)0.6%$10.51 - $14.11 ($12.3) $ 6.85-44%Add 278.82%2,146,666 LSCC Lattice ... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.6%$2.16 - $2.82 ($2.5) $ 1.38-45%New holding, 8206866 sh.8,206,866 BUD Anheuser... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.46%$60.98 - $67.8 ($66.6) $ 68.583%New holding, 200862 sh.200,862 FRO Frontlin... George Soros 2008-09-30 Buy 0.38%$49.11 - $62.02 ($55.4) $ 29.01-48%New holding, 219000 sh.219,000 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG - Intraday
Yg ngantri jual di BNBR aja 7,7jt lot. Kalo AR kiri dibuka mungkin bisa nambah volume dan nambah minus :p. -- *From:* JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:26:53 AM *Subject:* RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG - Intraday Kalau ragu JANGAN pernah maksa ambil posisi !! Better Stay Away.., kalau mau masuk, Hanya jika anda confident dan bisa tidur nyenyak meskipun ntar malem merah… hehe *From:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] *On Behalf Of *Tongat Benerva *Sent:* 18 Nopember 2008 10:06 *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG - Intraday entar value nya nambah, minus nya malah tambah nambah pak. takuuut. 2008/11/18 JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com [EMAIL PROTECTED] IHSG DOWN 5% dengan VALUE Cuma 160 M !! ..., BOW .., Goodluck All. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.4/1793 - Release Date: 11/17/2008 5:24 PM image001.png
[obrolan-bandar] Sharing gambar DJI
Target price Head and Shoulders DJI sudah tercapai di 78xx. Membentuk double bottom, ready to break out. Kalo breakout bakal ke 10,8xx. Moga2 ini bottomnya DJI. Sehingga BEI pun bisa terbang ;) attachment: DJI double bttm.pngattachment: DJI Week Target reached.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Nasib saham CPO
Bangun rumah 1 taon. Pembeli pake KPR mau 15 taon ato 20 taon sama saja, penjual tetap terima kontan. Kalo modal bikin rumahnya pake kredit konstruksi, jg ga ada masalah, tinggal dilunasi kalo mau. Ga perlu tunggu 15/20 taon. Jadi Mbah bener... nurut saya lho :D On 10/18/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau jual beli rumah pake hard cash ya bisa aja 1 tahun. Begitu rumah jadi, langsung laku semua dan modal bikin rumahnya gak minjem ke bank.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] It will surely come the second black monday
Is today the second black Monday? EUR down JPY up. Not yet? Minta ampun deh. Bravo Wencen... thanks for the info warning. On 10/2/08, wencen79 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bulan maret yg lalu saya sudah pernah posting ttg hal ini. Mengingat semuanya itu sudah mulai terjadi, maka saya posting sekali lagi kepada semua member OB ttg hal yg akan segera terjadi *Prophecy by Harold Eatmon* *I Saw the Stock Market Soar and Then Crash *I had a vision of the stock market's Big Board having serious upcoming problems. I saw the stock market soar and then crash. After the crash, many big business corporations and private parties bought up stocks because of the low cost to buy in. Then I saw the market begin to climb again in a short period of time. *Two Black Mondays* Then it crashed again bringing tremendous loss, ruin and devastation to all who bought in the first time. This is what I have labeled Two Black Mondays. The time period between the Two Black Mondays was very close together. I could not tell exactly how close. It could be a couple of days to a couple of months. There are some telltale signs indicating the season and the setting. I saw the season to be when *the leaves fall to the ground* then the first crash would occur.(tepat sudah terjadi di musim gugur ini 29 sept 08) * I Saw the Yen and Mark Fall * (sebagai tanda black monday kedua) I also saw the Yen and Mark fall dramatically just before this sudden and inexplicable crash. Like Joseph in Genesis, I believe America will have fat years of financial blessing. I also believe there are coming lean years of financial difficulty for America. I do not believe God is showing this so people can beat the game financially. I rather believe He is saying keep your eyes on eternal things. Store up treasures in Heaven.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine's short term target on commodities
I am sorry too for your loss. Hope it's not too deep. You are one very smart person. I am sure you can gain it back in no time. On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Glad to have you by my side, Rei I just can't beat Oentoeng. He's too... strong. I'm scared... :( This Lehman's bankruptcy is quite a smack in our global portfolios, cuz of it's size. I really have to redesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ well can't be lucky everytime, do we? Elaine* * * On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 5:30 PM, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehehehe betul pak Aria! Yg duduk di sebelah bozz aja bisa nyangkut berat, apalagi kita2??? To Elaine, don't worry, we're here to accompany you! On 9/16/08, Aria Santoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalo Mr. Oentoeng mengaku nyangkut berat, sy rasa member milis akan tambah ketakutan. -- *From:* Elaine Sui [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2008 11:08 AM *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Elaine's short term target on commodities *ELAINE YANGKUT BERAT. I GIVE UP. Ha ha ha... I made you guys feel better, didn't I? Trader's psychological trait: When you're losing, the only thing that makes you happy is to see someone else losing more. Coba bilang honestly kalau Oentoeng or James SmartAss yangkut, pasti banyak member happy to hear that. Elaine** *
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Bull..ehh...Bear...ehh..Bulll..... omong kosong lah...
Mbah, Buffet memang hebat FA nya. Sy terlalu oon dalam FA terpaksa bisanya pake TA doang :(. Maka, porto sy malah sy bagi 2, saat ini 40% long term, sisanya tektok. Selama sebulan terakhir ini yg long term minus 4.6% (seharusnya lebih parah lagi, tapi tertolong average down minggu lalu) hiksss:((. Sedangkan yg tektok malah cuan 14.3% sebulan ini selain hoki juga punya teman2 baik dan pinter yg sy trade bareng tiap hari. Jadi bisa saling tukar TA dan tukar pikiran tiap detik. Saling mendukung emosi dan saling mengingatkan spy ga terjebak dalam fear dan greed apalagi false rumour. Asal mau disiplin ketat, waktu downtren pun masih bisa cuan dikit2 walaupun kadang2 harus CL dan sering merasa TOLOL dan TELO krn terlalu cepat TP maupun CL, asal akhirnya rugi cuan ya udahlah... dikumpulin pelan2 tiap hari... lumayan buat dapur tetap ngepul lah.. at the end of the day, nga sampe kelaparan. On 8/21/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buffett mengatakan ia tidak sanggup memprediksi gerakan pasar harian. Tapi banyak orang yang merasa bisa memprediksi gerakan harian. GONJANG GANJING minyak tadi malam membuat para analyst HARIAN menjadi seperti orang tolol Minyak naik ke 117 turun ke 112,5 dan naik lagi ke 116. Apakah para analyst memang cuman buang buang waktu meramal gerakan harga minyak harian atau para Analyst HARIAN cuman DITOLOL TOLOLIN ama: - Pengumuman supply minyak banyak, sehingga minyak turun ke 112,5. - Goldman Sach yg bikin minyak naik lagi ke 116 dengan mengeluarkan ramalan bahwa minyak akan naik 29% ampe akhir tahun. Orang pintar selevel pak Jos tadi malam cuman jadi 'HARI HARIAN' bukan jadi BULAN BULANAN lagi. Tapi kata embah INI WAJAR karena orang selevel Buffett aja bilang ENGGA SANGGUP memprediksi gerakan harian apalagi pak Jos, embah atau SIAPAPUN... Embah sengaja mempostingkan ini untuk menunjukan bahwa TRADING HARIAN adalah BUSINESS YG SANGAT UNPREDICTBALE DAN HIGH RISK, jadi sudah bisa dibilang sebagai JUDI... Embah ingat nasihat sohib kita, si Sultan Katar: - Jangan judi, invest aja, simpen aja ampe akhir tahun katanye. Goldman Sach bilang, minyak akan naik 29% ampe akhir tahun, dan menyarankan beli saham tambang Freeport, sehinggu memicu RALLY saham tambang tadi malam. Gimana apakah anda setuju minyak akan naik ampe akhir tahun ?. COBA DIPIKIR dan kasih input kemilis terutama teman2 kita yg pintar Macro seperti pak Jos, pak Halim, pak Armando, Elaine, Dr Sirait, pak Vincent dll
[obrolan-bandar] SOBI
TP HnS reached. Candle Bullish. LK mantap, net profit 100% lbh. BUY at yourown risk. Happy cuan. attachment: SOBI.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] JPRS Update
Lebih mirip pennant... On 7/20/08, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terlihat pola desendring triangles.. hati2 di harga 670 jika tembus.. chart : http://dolgado.blogspot.com/2008/07/jprs-update-desc-triangles.html Pak Jsxtrader nungkin bisa mengkoreksi tentang Desc. Triangles nya...
[obrolan-bandar] BUMI
Rencana buy di bawah. Kindly comment please. attachment: BUMI.png
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau. TODAY. - artinya Merah Tua
Besok aja ijonya. Sabar... sabar :D Harga batu bara menunjukkan kehidupan... moga lanjut dan berdampak ke emiten jagoan kita. On 7/10/08, Bearish Forever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bull? where? where? Bacanya di balik maksudnya Elaine Sui Ying Ying. --- On *Thu, 7/10/08, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: From: Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Elaine mau hijau. TODAY. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 12:11 AM MELETUS BALON HIJAU DU *Kabu Nusi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com* wrote: Lagi buat cendol Bu Elaine? attachment: UK Coal.png
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stock Picking 7 July 2008...
Pak Aria, Unfortunately, egg yolk, shrimp, lobster, calamari (cumi2) and liver have high levels of cholesterol. http://www.healthcaresouth.com/pages/askthedoctor/cholesterol.htm Basically, hindari binatang laut yg tidak bersisik kalau punya masalah kolesterol. Org Yahudi sejak ribuan tahun sebelum temuan kolesterol secara ilmiah telah mengharamkannya. Kembali ke CPROmohon maaf yg punya CPRO. Sy belum melihat apa bagusnya saham ini utk sementara waktu. On 7/6/08, Aria Bela Nusa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wah, setahu saya - makanan laut (ikan, cumi, udang) tidak apa2 banyak2 kita makan krn 'emang menyehatkan2 (ketiganya saya suka - apalagi cumi itu) - makanya orang Jepang pinter2 krn makan ikan laut - kalo daging (warna merah) yg banyakan kolesterolnya Happy Chuan, Aria From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bw_lauw Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:25 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Stock Picking 7 July 2008 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, JCoderz topge4r@ wrote: Masa si Daging Udang bukannya Dikenal Banyak KOLESTEROL nya pak tbum? Kalo lemak daging emang tidak sehat. tapikan si hudang gak ada lemaknya cuman ada dagingnya Udang mirip sama cumi , dagingnya lezat, enak, bergizi tp banyak kolesterol .. (bisa bikin jantung di by-pass~ kalo da gawat si) he2.. denger2 si BD udang kejam ya. dulu bisa naek ampe 700 an krn issue apaan si ? btw lap keu kapan cpro dirilisnya ya? SIP : TBUMI Takut makan tentu akan membuat kurus, agresiv / berlebihan makan akan membuat gemuk. LK CPRO setahu kami cukup baik. Bagaimanapun daging yg berasal dari air lebih sehat dari daging yg berasal dari darat. Pak TBUM,klo menurut sy blm tentu,krn u hewan laut yg makanannya ada didasar laut makin ga sehat dikarenakan sampah laut sdh semakin parah,kan smp skrg blm ada tukang sampah yg mau ditgskan kedasar laut.Tp sy sendiri sih setuju klo CPRO pasti akan digoreng lg sebelum akhir 08(habis enak sih :)
Re: Bisnis CONTENT -- to Hendrik -- Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mohon Saran Kri
Setuju. BUMI menuju paling tidak sangat mendekati 9000. On 7/6/08, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Milis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: layanan yg bikin orang jadi narsis.. misal ringtone.. kalau narsis dihubungkan sama saham mungkin Cinta Laura suruh nomong ticker saham tertentu :) CINTA LAURA : SAIAYA MELIHYAT KAULAU BYUMI MUNYUJU.. WELL I THINK SEMBLIYAN RIBYU... MAKYA DUH.. BAKAL BECEK DECH..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 45 Menit Gempa Di BEJ
Koreksi. Katanya 4 clowns with Pak DE. lol...wakaka. Joking pak DE. On 7/5/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many got me wrong. Clowns are needed to make money in this market. We pay them well to sing and dance our songs. We love people like Elaine. They have helped us greatly in optimizing OPM in the market. At the end of the day, we share our profit with others who have support us with their money to reach our target. Everybody is happy. Now, there are three Clowns. LOL...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Isu BAEK
Merger. TP 2ribu. On 7/4/08, Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, ada yang dengar rumor BAEK mau diakuisisi? Kalau ada, dengar di harga berapaoleh siapa..? Tengkiu
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 45 Menit Gempa Di BEJ
Bukan Pak DE. Mana mampu jadi boss mereka. Saya rakyat jelata saja. On 7/5/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And your target is. Jadi John adalah bosnya Elaine dan tbumi gitu maksudna? Sy gini aja deh *John, tolong kamu suruh Elaine untuk bikin milis OB panas, setelah itu tolong jemput anak saya di Citos jam 4 sore ya * :D :D kidding lo pak.. wew badutnya jadi empat neh.. Regards, DE 2008/7/5 John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Many got me wrong. Clowns are needed to make money in this market. We pay them well to sing and dance our songs. We love people like Elaine. They have helped us greatly in optimizing OPM in the market. At the end of the day, we share our profit with others who have support us with their money to reach our target. Everybody is happy. On 7/4/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *So you're making more money than us. That is great. Would you kindly share any tips to us? Perhaps we can learn something from a great trader like you, John. :) Elaine** * 2008/7/4 John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ha ha ha... udah ngaku clown. Ketauan belangnya dah. However... you are making money better than me? Very funny. You don't know what you are talking about. On 7/4/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *These two big clowns are way better than you at making money and driving market psychology, John, and you really have no idea. Elaine** * 2008/7/3 John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ha ha ha... Are you saying that they are Two Big Clowns of the year? :)) Peace. On 7/3/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TBUM Elaine dah mulai ngaco nih... TBUM ngaku prediksinya selalu benar, padahal score sama Elaine aza dibantai habis2an prediksinya ANTM gagal total... Elaine suruh minta maaf, agar IDX survive... Apa hubungannya???... ga nyambung.com --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Achmad Assegaf assegaf_achmad@ wrote: sip : tbumi Maka itu dengari pesanan posting kami. Biasanya prediksi kami selalu benar. IYa pak selalu benar.. ANTM 5000 ... wahhh.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 45 Menit Gempa Di BEJ
Now, we have 5 clowns :) Udah ya bosen nikh. Let's go back to the business. Pak Boyz share donk insight nya buat BEI hari Senin. On 7/5/08, boyz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hihi... Kalo gitu milis OB sekarang bukan kepanjangan dari Obrolan Bandar lagi dong Salam, --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Koreksi. Katanya 4 clowns with Pak DE. lol...wakaka. Joking pak DE.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI
Kalo ikutin Phoenix Coal malah naik 2,94%... kira2 mau ikut ya mana ya :P On 7/4/08, tobinghe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau mengikuti NCOC seperti kemarin, maka bumi hari ini akan min 7-8 %
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 45 Menit Gempa Di BEJ
Ha ha ha... udah ngaku clown. Ketauan belangnya dah. However... you are making money better than me? Very funny. You don't know what you are talking about. On 7/4/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *These two big clowns are way better than you at making money and driving market psychology, John, and you really have no idea. Elaine** * 2008/7/3 John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ha ha ha... Are you saying that they are Two Big Clowns of the year? :)) Peace. On 7/3/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TBUM Elaine dah mulai ngaco nih... TBUM ngaku prediksinya selalu benar, padahal score sama Elaine aza dibantai habis2an prediksinya ANTM gagal total... Elaine suruh minta maaf, agar IDX survive... Apa hubungannya???... ga nyambung.com --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Achmad Assegaf assegaf_achmad@ wrote: sip : tbumi Maka itu dengari pesanan posting kami. Biasanya prediksi kami selalu benar. IYa pak selalu benar.. ANTM 5000 ... wahhh.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 45 Menit Gempa Di BEJ
Many got me wrong. Clowns are needed to make money in this market. We pay them well to sing and dance our songs. We love people like Elaine. They have helped us greatly in optimizing OPM in the market. At the end of the day, we share our profit with others who have support us with their money to reach our target. Everybody is happy. On 7/4/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *So you're making more money than us. That is great. Would you kindly share any tips to us? Perhaps we can learn something from a great trader like you, John. :) Elaine** * 2008/7/4 John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ha ha ha... udah ngaku clown. Ketauan belangnya dah. However... you are making money better than me? Very funny. You don't know what you are talking about. On 7/4/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *These two big clowns are way better than you at making money and driving market psychology, John, and you really have no idea. Elaine** * 2008/7/3 John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ha ha ha... Are you saying that they are Two Big Clowns of the year? :)) Peace. On 7/3/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TBUM Elaine dah mulai ngaco nih... TBUM ngaku prediksinya selalu benar, padahal score sama Elaine aza dibantai habis2an prediksinya ANTM gagal total... Elaine suruh minta maaf, agar IDX survive... Apa hubungannya???... ga nyambung.com --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Achmad Assegaf assegaf_achmad@ wrote: sip : tbumi Maka itu dengari pesanan posting kami. Biasanya prediksi kami selalu benar. IYa pak selalu benar.. ANTM 5000 ... wahhh.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: 45 Menit Gempa Di BEJ
Ha ha ha... Are you saying that they are Two Big Clowns of the year? :)) Peace. On 7/3/08, Petualang Saham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TBUM Elaine dah mulai ngaco nih... TBUM ngaku prediksinya selalu benar, padahal score sama Elaine aza dibantai habis2an prediksinya ANTM gagal total... Elaine suruh minta maaf, agar IDX survive... Apa hubungannya???... ga nyambung.com --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Achmad Assegaf assegaf_achmad@ wrote: sip : tbumi Maka itu dengari pesanan posting kami. Biasanya prediksi kami selalu benar. IYa pak selalu benar.. ANTM 5000 ... wahhh.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUY BUMI BUY ISAT hihihihi
Jangan percaya sama Elaine. Yg kena tipu postingan kemarin biar jadi pelajaran yang berharga. On 6/27/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Member OB tidak retail semua dan tidak pintar seperti Vincent. Elaine** * On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Vincent Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kalo prediksi salah, bilang aja kita lagi boongin retail , kl prediksi benar, bilang i was telling the truth... enaknya buat rec di ob ini hehehhe *Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *Mailing list is an efficient marketing tool, and I know the current market mentality is quite fragile. You can't believe the oil price, you were deceived by the chart, all research become junk, and now you lost your faith in OB. I'll wait until everyone lose their sanity and do something stupid, then it'd be the best time to invest. You know, that's why I don't like being called a general or pilot. Cuz I'm not leading anyone. I'm chasing money, not fame. Please do not overtrade, otherwise you may get in the way, and be ground to death. Elaine** * 2008/6/27 Hendra Santosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hahahhaa bu Elaine jadi predator ya sekarang Bu? Pinter dung pilihnya yang endut2 ya hihihi. Bu Elaine kapan dong nge-nuke nya lagi? *Predator vs Alien - wes terulang lagi deh sejarahnya* --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Noobs kalau ada uang banyak boleh saja dari pada expert uang sedikit. Kalau memang expert pasti tidak terpancing posting Elaine yesterday. Where's Hendrik? Kang Ocoy? James? Embah? Rei? Dean? I think they're smart enough by staying out of the market (or at least from OB) I was thinking that I'm gonna do that too but these noobs are so tasty. Elaine** * On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Hendra Santosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Broker di Sekuritas
Gw iseng2 pesen cuman 200 lots malah dapet 5 lots He he... brokernya baik jg ama gw kalo gitu. 2008/6/7 swan silo [EMAIL PROTECTED]: sekedar info.ipo indika pesan 2000 lot hanya dpt 1 lot - Original Message From: freez z [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 7, 2008 3:46:39 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Broker di Sekuritas syaratnya harus punya sertifikat wppe, tapi kalau belum punya ga apa2, setelah di terima baru ikut ujian wppe. syarat yang lain, lulus pisikotesnya, hehehe. Sumber penghasilan broker lainya yaitu komisi, jadi setiap nasabah kita transaksi kita dapat komisi. Gw baru dapat info lagi neh, kalau mau cepat kaya ikut IPO. kan kalau ipo susah dapat tuh, terus dijatahin. nah gw diajarin sama teman begini: dia bilang nasabahnya ikut IPO adaro 15 miliar, nah dia nitip 1miliar jadi 16 miliar. Anggap aja dari satu miliar itu dapat 10% nya aja udah 100 juta. seperti yang kita ketahui kalau listing di bursa opening nya langsung bisa naik 30% lebih. kalau kita jual saat opening untung 30% udah 30 juta. hehehe. * [EMAIL PROTECTED] com* wrote: Ada temen saya yg tertarik mau jadi broker. Adakah yg tahu, : - Apa syarat menjadi broker? - sumber penghasilan broker itu darimana saja, selain gaji pokok? Trims sebelumnya.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] white flag
Gw juga ah... On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Andri Irawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Istirahat dulu
Re: Tolong saya juga Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tolong berikan CLUE kepada saya
Pak Candra, Coba saya berbagi TA utk AALI dan ITMG yg kebetulan saya juga pegang (bedanya kebetulan saya belinya di bawah): Kalo AALI sdg membentuk inverted head and shoulders (bullish reversal) blm confirm break tp sepertinya AALI tidak masalah utk break, dan kalau break di 26350, TP 33380. AALI kok oke sekali menurut saya. Kalau break 26350 Anda bisa avg down menurut saya. Saya sendiri akan avg up. Utk ITMG sdh diatas Fibo 50%, kalo liat Bollinger band dan Moving averagenya saham ini masih bisa naik lagi bahkan sdg siap2 terbang. Sebelum Jumat kan dia msh sideways, Jumat dia sdh mulai gerak. Yg sy baca PER nya lbh rendah dp PTBA. Jadi tenang aja dulu. ELSA jg jgn buru2 CL kecuali Anda melihat boncengan lain yg lbh mantap. ELSA juga moving avg nya golden cross wkt Kamis tp msh konsolidasi. Kalao g salah LK 1Q08 rugi krn mrk hrs keluar biaya2 yg pendapatan/cuan-nya baru realized di 2Q08. 2Q08 diharapkan cuan. Moga2 bisa joss. Happy cuan. Disc on. On 5/18/08, Candra Darmadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Pak Adam, Saya juga ingin berbagi pengalaman. saya punya portfolio AALI di 30900 dan ITMG di 27800 serta ELSA di 540. Yang paling saya concern adalah AALI, apakah akan bisa kembali ke harga beli saya tersebut dan kira2 kapan? Jujur saja, waktu saya beli AALi (sekitar awal Maret) hari itu sampai 2 hari ke depan, saya sudah bisa cuan tapi saya msh mau tahan. Setelah memutuskan akan menjual esok harinya, eh malah turun terus sampai detik ini. terus terang awalnya sangat mengganggu psikologis saya. Mohon pencerahannya, terimakasih.. Best Regards, candra PS: buat teman2 yang lain kalau ada masukan, tolong... - Original Message From: Adam Rajsha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 7:52:38 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Tolong berikan CLUE kepada saya saya bukan senior, cuma mo berbagi pengalaman, karena saya juga pernah nyangkut. saat ini saya coba stick on my plan, hanya main dibeberapa saham BC di sektor mining (khususnya coal) dan sedikit CPO. kalo saya jadi anda, pada saat terjadi koreksi atau confirm bullish di saham BC khususnya pada sektor mining CPO, maka akan saya switching saham2 lainya ke sektor tsb, dan lakukan average down pada saat koreksi tsb. tiap orang mungkin punya gaya masing2 yg berbeda, sekali lagi cuma berbagi pengalaman, jangan diikuti kalo merasa tidak sesuai dng gaya anda (yg jarang memonitor market). tak ada salahnya sesekali sempatkan waktu untuk lihat2 market secara TA. salam, AR On 5/17/08, Rookie Kabu rookie.kabu@ yahoo.co. id[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All Perkenalkan saya anggota baru dan juga baru mulai invest di stock market tetapi sekarang hampir semua nyangkut karena tidak monitor (lagi di luar negeri) dan jarang buka internet. Portfolio saya: StockHarga beli PTBA12,200 SGRO4,675 CNKO 200 ANTM4,525 DEWA 690 UNSP 2,650 INCO9,450 JSMR2,060 BTEL 460 WIKA 630 CPRO 720 Sekarang sudah balik dan kaget melihat perkembangan harga. Rencana saya mau coba averaging (up). Kira2, stock mana yg harus diprioritaskan karena tidak mungkin semua. Dan stock mana yg tidak perlu averaging, dalam arti kata, biarkan saja. Mohon dengan segala kerendahan hati meminta petunjuk/saran/ direction/ clue dari para senior dan rekan semua. Really I'm in serious trouble.. Terimakasih. Rookie (Kabu = Stock, in Japanese) Rgds -- Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answershttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http://id.answers.yahoo.com/ -- Yahoo! Toolbar kini dilengkapi dengan Search Assist. Download sekarang juga.http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/search/toolbar/mail/signature/*http://id.toolbar.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: EMBAH... BUTUH ADVISED NYA.... PLEASEEEEEE
Hehe... Pak T_Bumi gak bosan tah kotbah doom and gloom terus padahal BEI jelas2 bullish. Moving Average pun pada mulai golden cross. DOWJ khan cuman koreksi dikit aja. Pattern inv Head and Hammer juga sdh break bahkan sdh pull back di necklinenya wkt tgl 9 Mei dan kmd terbang lagi. Kalo BBM naik mah udah bukan rumor lagi khan. Semua juga udah tahu. Jumat itu khan malahan ada bbrp saham yg baru break out dari patternnya dgn volume yg meyakinkan. Saya malah avg up. PeDe aja. Kalau sampe pullback break Support ya CL. Gitu aja. Simple :p Bener selama ini Pak ga beli apa2? Bapak ini bener2 serius ga tahu atau mau nakut2in aja sikh? :D Kalau index kadang2 koreksi khan biasa2 aja, masak dia disuruh naik tegak lurus kayak gorengan gitu? He he... Peace. On 5/16/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SIP : TBUMI Minggu depan adalah minggu yg sangat berat bagi investor BEI : - DOWJ sdh merah hari Jumat tgl 16-Mei-2008 - BEI libur hari Selasa tgl. 20-Mei-2008 - BBM menurut rumors akan naik 30% hari Jumat 23-Mei-2008 - DOWJ tutup hari Senin tgl 26-Mei-2008 - minyak sdh tembus di $127 Happy Cuan bagi yg sdh keluar.
[obrolan-bandar] fly BUMI fly
*Indonesia's Bumi signs coal deals at $132/tonne *Indonesia's largest coal miner, PT Bumi Resources Tbk , has negotiated a 120 percent price hike for 2008 thermal coal deliveries to some Japanese utilities, traders said on Thursday. Bumi last week agreed to sell 5 million tonnes of thermal coal at $132 a tonne to some Japanese utilities, two industry sources said, while other Japanese utilities have signed index-linked supply contracts with Bumi at $6 above the globalCOAL benchmark index.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] chart AALI UNSP
Pak Irawan, kalo AALI sdg bikin inv Head n Shoulders. Rada merayap, but it's getting there. Kalo UNSP ga tau :p On 5/13/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: chart AALI NUSP bentuknya rada aneh. Lurus kayak disetrika. kira2 apa penjelasannya ya ?
[obrolan-bandar] ITMG cuan 300%
Pesawat terbang berikutnya? http://web.bisnis.com/edisi-cetak/edisi-harian/keuangan/1id58394.html
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Q1 08 BUMI jeblok.. ada yg bs ulas fundamental??
Hmmm... kok sepertinya ga terlalu jelek LK Q1 08 nya ya? Pls comment * Corporate Information BUMI RESOURCES FIRST QUARTER – ESTIMATED OUTTURN AND FUTURE OUTLOOK FULL YEAR 2008 * Jakarta, 30 April 2008 – PT Bumi Resources Tbk. take s this opportunity of providing a relevant background to Bumi's Q108 outturn on volume and price parameter and a forecast, quarter wise, of our FY08 outturn. Q1 in any year is usually the lowest performing quarter on sales and price beca use of impact of rainfall which adversely affects coal mined and conveyed and prices are largely at previous year levels. In Q107 Bumi sold 14.5 million tons vs Q106 of 11.5 million tons - the reason being that Q107 was untypical of a normal year as year end inventory in 2006 was at a record level of 5 to 6 million tons and we sold about 3 million tons from inventory, hence, sale from fresh production in Q107 was actually 11.5 million tons or the same Q106. Year end inventories in 2007 were negligible and we sold out of fresh production and yet achieved 12.5 million tons of sales in Q108 and removed overburden at 13% higher than Q107. We emphasised this point specifically to reporters this morning – this may have been missed by a few. Our forecast for 2008 is 62 million tons of sales (vs 55.4 million tons in Fy07), Production of 64 million tons ( vs 54.2 million tons in FY 07) at an average price of $ 70/ton ( vs $44/ton in 2007) and forecast split of production, sales, price by quarter in 2008 is as follows:- * Q108 Q208 Q308 Q408 FY08 * Production (mt) 12.64 15.51 17.99 18.08 64.22 Sales (mt) 12.53 13.96 17.26 17.25 61.00 Average Price ($/t) 58.34 70.73 77.68 81.45 70.00 + Sales can increase to 62 MT by inventory adjustment during the year. * Page 2 of 2 * We expect a ramp up in production and sales from Q208 onwards because of expected higher productivity due to arrivals of approx $ 200 million of mobile equipment in Q208 which raises productivity and mining activity levels higher during challenging weather conditions, and we expect to give a fresh guidance on price for FY08 once the Contract settlements with Japanese utilities takes place next month for the period April'08/ March '09. Indeed, Bumi expects another high performance record breaking year in 2008 as you can see. This is the full substance of what we actually conveyed to reporters today for coal and Bumi we recommend that a perspective is best taken on an annualized basis by audit year not by a month or a quarter. As mentioned yesterday in our press release and advice to IDX and Bapepam, Bumi is conducting a limited audit review on its Q108 performance and will be formally reporting its accurate Q108 financials on 30 May '08 once this exercise is over. * For further information, please contact: ** Dileep Srivastava ** Senior Vice President, Investor Relations Corporate Communications Company Secretary * PT Bumi Resources Tbk. Tel (62-21) 5794 2080 Fax (62-21) 5794 2070 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bumiresources.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Q1 08 BUMI jeblok.. ada yg bs ulas fundamental??
Seperti terlampir di surat di bawah: Penjualan Q1 2007 14,5 MT karena ada ketambahan hasil produksi dari Q4 06 seharusnya net Q1 07 hanya 11,5MT. Sedangkan penjualan Q1 2008 bersih dari hasil Q1 2008. Eng... ing... eng :p On 5/13/08, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Q1 2007: 14.5 mt Q1 2008: 12.64 Eng..ing...eng. *John Bei [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Hmmm... kok sepertinya ga terlalu jelek LK Q1 08 nya ya? Pls comment * Corporate Information BUMI RESOURCES FIRST QUARTER – ESTIMATED OUTTURN AND FUTURE OUTLOOK FULL YEAR 2008 * Jakarta, 30 April 2008 – PT Bumi Resources Tbk. take s this opportunity of providing a relevant background to Bumi's Q108 outturn on volume and price parameter and a forecast, quarter wise, of our FY08 outturn. Q1 in any year is usually the lowest performing quarter on sales and price beca use of impact of rainfall which adversely affects coal mined and conveyed and prices are largely at previous year levels. In Q107 Bumi sold 14.5 million tons vs Q106 of 11.5 million tons - the reason being that Q107 was untypical of a normal year as year end inventory in 2006 was at a record level of 5 to 6 million tons and we sold about 3 million tons from inventory, hence, sale from fresh production in Q107 was actually 11.5 million tons or the same Q106. Year end inventories in 2007 were negligible and we sold out of fresh production and yet achieved 12.5 million tons of sales in Q108 and removed overburden at 13% higher than Q107. We emphasised this point specifically to reporters this morning – this may have been missed by a few. Our forecast for 2008 is 62 million tons of sales (vs 55.4 million tons in Fy07), Production of 64 million tons ( vs 54.2 million tons in FY 07) at an average price of $ 70/ton ( vs $44/ton in 2007) and forecast split of production, sales, price by quarter in 2008 is as follows:- * Q108 Q208 Q308 Q408 FY08 * Production (mt) 12.64 15.51 17.99 18.08 64.22 Sales (mt) 12.53 13.96 17.26 17.25 61.00 Average Price ($/t) 58.34 70.73 77.68 81.45 70.00 + Sales can increase to 62 MT by inventory adjustment during the year. * Page 2 of 2 * We expect a ramp up in production and sales from Q208 onwards because of expected higher productivity due to arrivals of approx $ 200 million of mobile equipment in Q208 which raises productivity and mining activity levels higher during challenging weather conditions, and we expect to give a fresh guidance on price for FY08 once the Contract settlements with Japanese utilities takes place next month for the period April'08/ March '09. Indeed, Bumi expects another high performance record breaking year in 2008 as you can see. This is the full substance of what we actually conveyed to reporters today for coal and Bumi we recommend that a perspective is best taken on an annualized basis by audit year not by a month or a quarter. As mentioned yesterday in our press release and advice to IDX and Bapepam, Bumi is conducting a limited audit review on its Q108 performance and will be formally reporting its accurate Q108 financials on 30 May '08 once this exercise is over. * For further information, please contact: ** Dileep Srivastava ** Senior Vice President, Investor Relations Corporate Communications Company Secretary * PT Bumi Resources Tbk. Tel (62-21) 5794 2080 Fax (62-21) 5794 2070 email [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.bumiresources.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Q1 08 BUMI jeblok.. ada yg bs ulas fundamental??
Kalo gw hari ini suka BUMI dp PTBA. Krn BUMI ijo, PTBA merah. Lain waktu bisa lain ceritanya. Ikutin market aja. On 5/14/08, JCoderz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya lebi prefer ke PTBA daripada BUMI , klo BUMI lebi cocok bwat trader. tp PTBA skr harganya da ke terbang duluan da ketinggalan belon ya (masi ragu2) tar tunggu aja yg lebih gede IPO ADARO .. 2008/5/14 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bumi ini memang buat sebagian org (termasuk saya) bahaya...tapi buat sebagian lain yg beli sewaktu 1-2rb dan menjualnya pas di atas 5rb? Berkah! Tapi saya setuju, ini saham agak bahaya so investor mesti hati2 dan siap2 terjun kalo ada apa2... *Anton Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: sudah sepatutnya saham BUMI dijauhi..liat aja laporan q1 nya baru keluar maret...ternyata rugi...knapa rugi pdhal batubaranya naek..karena laporannya dimanipulasi..ical ga mau keuntunngannya terlalu besar sehingga orang pajak mengejar..jadinya ga ada duit buat kampanye nantinya kalau kena pajak... ni perusahaan juga paling banyak bkin gosip..sibuk berkoar sana sini..mau buyback di 11 ribu lah...herald lah..ini lah itu lahbiasanya perusahaan yang sibuk bkin rumours itu ciri perusahaan yang sudah kehabisan bahan bakar untuk menaikkan harga sahamnya,..so saran saya mdingan saham kae gni dijauhin..sy pribadi lebi senang maen grup asii (untir dan aali) serta bbri bbca dan bdmn..peace.. *hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wadooohhh..Q4 kmrn dikirain ada pstponed coal delivery makanya Q4 merah..kirain Q1 bakal ijo coz yg postponed delivery dimasukin Q1. Ehmkl BUMI turun, semua bakal ambles ke bawah juga neh Ada yg punya inpo LK Q1 BUMI? SIP : HENDRIK sebelumnya : BRITANYA LAP Q1 BUMI JEBLOK LIAT DIMANA? tapi pembahasan saya kalau itu bener : sehgarusnya Q4 yang kurang baik itu kalau bener2 karena postpone delivery SEHARUSNYA, BIASANYA bikin Q1 ijo benderang karena COST produksinya udah dimasukin ke tahun sebelumnya dan Q1 tinggal ngeambil aja dan jual. sama seperti kalau kita beli bahan baku dimasukin ke laporan tahun kemarin dan biaya produksi, bayar karyawan semua tahun kemarin tapi penjualan dimasukin ke tahun berikutnya apstilah lap keuangannya SEHARUSNYA sangat bagus. kalau ternyata jelek berarti yang murni Q1 adalah SANGAT - SANGAT jelek karena walau udah ditambahin barang siap jual dari tahun sebeluknya jelek, berarti yang asli Q1 bener2 jelek. lagipula harganya kan (COAL) nnaik terus makanya aneh kalau Q1 jeblok. apa mungkin karena BUMI udah Jual arutmin dan KPC (confirmnya gmana nih? ada yangtau)? SARAN : SELL/HOLD BUMI sampai lap keuangannya keluar akhir mei ini dolgado.blogspot.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Q1 08 BUMI jeblok.. ada yg bs ulas fundamental??
*BUMI* Cadangan batubara BUMI meningkat 29% dan mencapai 1,4 milliar ton (dari 1,1 milliar ton). Cadangan tersebut masih mencukupi untuk 20 tahun produksi, dengan asumsi produksi sebesar 65 juta ton/tahun. BUMI juga mengharapkan harga kontrak batubara dengan Jepang dapat terealisasi April ini. On 5/14/08, Anton Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: stuju..mdingan ptba daripada bumi..mdingan aali daripada unsp ...ptba tunggu rsinya 0..skrang udah trun terus rsi nya,..udah overbought ni saham..btr lagi juga oversold.. *JCoderz [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Saya lebi prefer ke PTBA daripada BUMI , klo BUMI lebi cocok bwat trader. tp PTBA skr harganya da ke terbang duluan da ketinggalan belon ya (masi ragu2) tar tunggu aja yg lebih gede IPO ADARO .. 2008/5/14 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bumi ini memang buat sebagian org (termasuk saya) bahaya...tapi buat sebagian lain yg beli sewaktu 1-2rb dan menjualnya pas di atas 5rb? Berkah! Tapi saya setuju, ini saham agak bahaya so investor mesti hati2 dan siap2 terjun kalo ada apa2... *Anton Hartono [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: sudah sepatutnya saham BUMI dijauhi..liat aja laporan q1 nya baru keluar maret...ternyata rugi...knapa rugi pdhal batubaranya naek..karena laporannya dimanipulasi..ical ga mau keuntunngannya terlalu besar sehingga orang pajak mengejar..jadinya ga ada duit buat kampanye nantinya kalau kena pajak... ni perusahaan juga paling banyak bkin gosip..sibuk berkoar sana sini..mau buyback di 11 ribu lah...herald lah..ini lah itu lahbiasanya perusahaan yang sibuk bkin rumours itu ciri perusahaan yang sudah kehabisan bahan bakar untuk menaikkan harga sahamnya,..so saran saya mdingan saham kae gni dijauhin..sy pribadi lebi senang maen grup asii (untir dan aali) serta bbri bbca dan bdmn..peace.. *hendrik_lwww [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wadooohhh..Q4 kmrn dikirain ada pstponed coal delivery makanya Q4 merah..kirain Q1 bakal ijo coz yg postponed delivery dimasukin Q1. Ehmkl BUMI turun, semua bakal ambles ke bawah juga neh Ada yg punya inpo LK Q1 BUMI? SIP : HENDRIK sebelumnya : BRITANYA LAP Q1 BUMI JEBLOK LIAT DIMANA? tapi pembahasan saya kalau itu bener : sehgarusnya Q4 yang kurang baik itu kalau bener2 karena postpone delivery SEHARUSNYA, BIASANYA bikin Q1 ijo benderang karena COST produksinya udah dimasukin ke tahun sebelumnya dan Q1 tinggal ngeambil aja dan jual. sama seperti kalau kita beli bahan baku dimasukin ke laporan tahun kemarin dan biaya produksi, bayar karyawan semua tahun kemarin tapi penjualan dimasukin ke tahun berikutnya apstilah lap keuangannya SEHARUSNYA sangat bagus. kalau ternyata jelek berarti yang murni Q1 adalah SANGAT - SANGAT jelek karena walau udah ditambahin barang siap jual dari tahun sebeluknya jelek, berarti yang asli Q1 bener2 jelek. lagipula harganya kan (COAL) nnaik terus makanya aneh kalau Q1 jeblok. apa mungkin karena BUMI udah Jual arutmin dan KPC (confirmnya gmana nih? ada yangtau)? SARAN : SELL/HOLD BUMI sampai lap keuangannya keluar akhir mei ini dolgado.blogspot.com
Re: [obrolan-bandar] hati2 bumi
Bisa disharing kan gambarnya Pak? Kok saya malah melihatnya Resistance di 7250 sdh di break 2 hari terakhir ini. Terima kasih. On 5/9/08, swan silo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hati2 dengan bumichartpatternnya rising wedge dan sudah mentok upper line bolinger band..bisa jth ke 6700 an. -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI next week 6900
Kalo lembunya mau kawin ama Anda... He he... just kidding. Saya juga bullish ama BUMI kok. On 5/9/08, wencen79 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taruhan kawin ama lembu deh kalau bumi next week bakal minimal 7600,hehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Felicia Rumondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cash dulu BUMI nya tunggu lagi di 6900 wat wunderful world __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http:// mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [obrolan-bandar] LEBARAN INFLASI TEMBUS 13%
Kalo inflasi naik, daya beli turun. Masyarakat makan lebih banyak IndoMie. INDF naik. Betul ga ya? kok saya liat INDF nanjak terus. Liat chart patternnya jg break inverted head shoulder dgn volume. Mohon disanggah. On 5/10/08, Bumi T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inflasi terakhir tembus hampir 9%. Bila minyak jadi naik 30% maka inflasi mendatang pasti tembus 10%. Saat ini minyak international naik terus dan tentu akan mempengaruhi harga BBM industri. Jadi harga akan berganti terus naik. Jangan lupa, bila dekat lebaran dan tentunya semua harga barang akan selalu meroket lagi. Tentu faktor ini akan membuat inflasi bakal tembus 13%. Ini berarti akan ganti harga terus di semua barang barang. -- Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answershttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Weird email?
Setuju ama TBUMI. Kalau yg udah punya duit ber-ratus2-an Milyar sampai Trillion sampe bisa menggoncangkan BEI, apa masih punya waktu ngasih tau kita BEI bakal kemana? :D On 5/4/08, t_bumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, Brandon Alvaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: POSSITIVE THINKING ajalah. tak kenal maka tak sayang. Freedom of speech to El.keep posting ! terlepas dari benar tidaknya issue El sang primadona ? yang pasti kalo nggak ada El nggak rame kemarin isu BOW nya dan Bull 7 days kayaknya oke tuh.. allert ! waduh kalo ternyata si EL COWOK , BOYS yg mint jadi Boy-friend nya kecele donk ngajak anggar/ pedang-pedangan Nunggu komen nya TBUMI aja ahhh... idolaku, gimana nich TBUM ? sip : TBUMI Member OB semuanya sangat misterius karena tak perlu pakai KTP utk jadi member, jadi semua posting boleh dikatakan juga misterius. Tentu saja BEI akan meroket bila ada uang misterius masuk ke BEI (biasanya lebih dikenal dgn hot money). Jadi percaya diri saja di investasi saham. Janganlah terpengaruh dgn rumors yang ada dihidup ini.
Re: Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Score berapa sekarang?
Jujur. What a lady! Salut :) On 5/3/08, Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Elaine masih sering salah kalau predict daily, so no comment. Kemarin Elaine mau +70 at Tuesday, ternyata baru this Friday tercapai (Tue +50, Wed +0, Fri +38). So I guess I am a bit incompetent for that matter. Dulu juga Elaine suruh wild guess sama Embah mau -20 malah drop -200 days later. Haha.. malu jadi.*** * Elaine* On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 8:05 PM, David Hartanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely, EL. Except the people that like to go against the market, or against the superior lady, he...he..he. Just kidding. Thank's. What about Monday do you think IDX will still be green, considering the news on the US that're less favourable? *Elaine [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: *..just asking.. ^^* ** *It feels good to have profit together, right guys? Yo TBummers, we still have one seat for you here, mate. Are you coming to the party or not? Guys, TBummers is my friend. I like him a lot, he's funny, sometimes ridiculous yet very mature and kind. Fred is also my friend. Embah, Oentoeng, Dean, Halim, Kang Ocoy, Jos, Rei, Budi Z, David, JSXTrader, AA, and James, etc. They're all my friends here, except one.* ** *One ass kisser is more than enough.. lol.. that stupid gay ass freak * ** *Elaine* -- Bergabunglah dengan orang-orang yang berwawasan, di bidang Anda di Yahoo! Answershttp://sg.rd.yahoo.com/mail/id/footer/def/*http://id.answers.yahoo.com/
Re: Balasan: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bakrie Sumatera's Net Profit Soars 793.43%
Great sharing Bang Helmi ! I didn't notice it :D On 5/1/08, helmi setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chart AALI dan LSIP lumayan cocok untuk investor, AALI sebaiknya mulai masuk saat terbentuk Inverted Head and Shoulder, LSIP boleh mulai akumulasi dan avg lagi saat terbentuk inv HnS berdasarkan attachment berikut: *Thomas Heriyanto thomas_heriyanto69@ yahoo.co. id* wrote: pak Jos, kalo buat Investor gimana. ? apa kurang bagus dibanding teman2 nya AALI,SGRO,LSIP. Bapak bilang, janganlama-lama ...ntar kena switching? mohon pencerahan - Pesan Asli Dari: jos_martino jos_martino@ yahoo.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Terkirim: Kamis, 1 Mei, 2008 12:06:31 Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bakrie Sumatera's Net Profit Soars 793.43% -- http://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *Real people. Real questions. Real answers. Share what you knowhttp://answers.yahoo.com.sg/ *.
