Re: [ob] DOID: Press release

2010-03-30 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
br jam 10:20, asing dah net sell 60 m di DOID.





From: jsx-consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 8:01:48 PM
Subject: [ob] DOID: Press release

DOID: Press release

pdf attached...




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indonesianbulls.com Re: [ob] Cara Gampang Belajar Candlestick

2010-03-23 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
http://www.indonesianbulls.com/

trading n learning candlestick (5 bars).





From: iching_prediction iching_predict...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 24, 2010 9:32:04 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Cara Gampang Belajar Candlestick

biar makin yahud prediksinya..he3

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, rina mayapada rina.ban...@... wrote:

 Lho, Koko Iching pake candle stick juga? Kirain tiap hari cuma
 ngeliatin kartu Tarot sama bola kristal doang...:-D
 
 On 3/24/10, iching_prediction iching_predict...@... wrote:
  Sekedar sharing
 
  Belajar candlestick kalo baca buku suka pusing?
 
  Nga ngerti ato susah ngapalin pattern candlestick yg istilahnya pake bahasa
  'dewa' spt doji, harami, inverted hammer, dll?
 
  Berikut tip + trik biar bisa menghafal/mengerti pattern2 yg ada :
 
  1. Pake WD List, liat kolom 'candle'...misal di wd list hari ini untuk BUMI,
  muncul pattern Harami X (Harami Cross)
 
  2. Buka Yahoo Finance, liat chart BUMI.JK, pilih type 'candle', range waktu
  3 month.
 
  3. Trus liat deh, bentuk harami x itu kayak gimana
 
  4. Trus buat tahu kriteria/penjelasan detail harami x tsb cukup tanya om
  google dgn kata kunci harami candlestick
 
  5. Ulangi terus tiap hari...otomatis pasti hafal sendiri nantinya pattern2
  candlestick yg ada.
 
 
 
 







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Re: [ob] Idxbot kena dos

2010-03-11 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Kpd mrk yg berbuat baik
Walau rezeki belum mendekat, malapetaka sdh menjauh.

Kpd mrk yg berbuat jahat
Walau malapetaka belum mendekat, rezeki sdh menjauh.





From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, March 11, 2010 7:47:04 PM
Subject: [ob] Idxbot kena dos

Dos=denial of service

Duh maaf bgt..

Buat pelaku gw sumpahin keselek kondom basah loe...

-- 
Sent from my mobile device




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Re: [ob] Re: SMCB ADRO

2010-03-09 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
seinget sy, smcb maenannya boss Arto sejak 1500 an.
sorry kl salah inget





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, March 9, 2010 2:33:57 PM
Subject: [ob] Re: SMCB  ADRO

Grafik Elliott Wave SMCB:

http://www.invest2000.net/pwlsmcb.png

- Target W5 = W1 di 1870 
  sekarang 1920
- Next Target: W5 = 1,62 x W1


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, m...@... rxbk1...@... wrote:

 Akhirnya SMCB lebih tinggi dari ADRO.
 
 SMCB's Management is probably better than ADRO's Management.
 
 SMCB's Bandar is stronger and wiser than ADRO's Bandar.
 
 SMCB's business prospect is probably more promising than ADRO's business 
 prospect. 
 
 What a business!!!.
 
 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung 
 Teruuusss...!







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Re: [ob] Satu dekade milis OB.... OB ulang tahun, email name ganti ah..

2010-03-08 Terurut Topik Julia Perez


Congratz milist OB !!!
Be the Best.
Always the Best.





From: jsx-consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 7:03:28 PM
Subject: [ob] Satu dekade milis OB OB ulang tahun, email name ganti ah..

  


07:05
Lewat email bisa masuk, embah kirim lewat
email
 
Satu dekade milis OB
 
 
Embah sendiri selalu lupa kapan hari lahir
OB karena sudah
pelupa, tapi kalo melihat disini:
- http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/
 
Disitu tertulis OB was founded tgl 9 Maret
thn 2000 jadi
milis OB mecapai umur 10 tahun besok tgl 9
Maret 2010.
 
Milis OB dimulai sebagai milis yg
mengkhususkan diri pada bandarmologi dan kemudian berkembang meluas menjadi
milis 
umum Investasi dan Trading. Dan dari milis
yg moderatornya bego 
soal TA sampai menjadi milis saham yg
Leading 
dibidangnya... hehehe...
 
Dan dari milis yg sering dikirimin Virus
dan Email bombing 
sampai menjadi milis yg disegani dan
diperhatikan oleh 
para pelaku pasar modal.
 
Dan dari milis yg 'underground' sampai
menjadi Tempat 
Pembelajaran Investor dan Trader.
 
Selama perkembangannya, embah selalu
menekankan INDEPENDENSI
dan KESEIMBANGAN milis OB dari segalam
macam Kepentingan. 
 
Embah mengharapkan milis OB kedepan bisa
menjadi Centre
of Excelence dalam mencetak pelaku pasar
modal yg hebat.
 
Hari ini IHSG close +47, Market
seakan-akan memberi selamat 
bagi milis OB yg sedang berulang tahun... 
 
Happy Bithday milis OB
 
...
Embah, moderator milis OB
 
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of jsx-consultant
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:39
PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ob] OB ulang tahun,
email name ganti ah..
 
  
06:38 lewat email
Embah udah kirim 2 kali lewat web, tapi belum nongol….
 


 
From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
[mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of ?? Mas Dean ??
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 5:04
PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] OB ulang tahun,
email name ganti ah..
 
  
Ngomong2
mbah kok ngga ada speech nya nih...

Curhat dikit gpp mbah, kami siap mendengarkan. ..

Apa mbah mulai jenuh... secara ga pernah cuti dari OB..






  

Re: [ob] ASII +4,3%

2010-03-07 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
spy jualan siomay eh.. b7 laris manis?
bozz emang lihai n tau aja the best moment,
cuma naikin asii n tlkm, siomaynya bozz diborong trader...





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, March 8, 2010 9:53:36 AM
Subject: [ob] ASII +4,3%

Perkiraan embah bahwa LQ45 dihajar duluan pada hari Senin
terlihat





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Re: [ob] Regional Asia pagi ini minus

2010-02-24 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Mbah, mungkin hr ini adalah hr baik buat bozz mentrf kerugiannya ke trader,
mumpung dow lg ijo (teori defense mechanism bd ..) 





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 9:11:22 AM
Subject: [ob] Regional Asia pagi ini minus

Dow naik lumayan tadi malam tapi bursa Asia rata rata minus
pagi ini

Tanya kenapa ?






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Re: [ob] Regional Asia pagi ini minus + TAL Centrin

2010-02-24 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
b7 ditarik keatas, spy si bozz bs jualan siomay eh.. lq-45 ???






From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 10:25:01 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] Regional Asia pagi ini minus + TAL Centrin

Hati hati aja, untung engga seberapa, mending jualan siomay

Selain itu, TAL email Centrin bareng ama IHSG jatoh Ini
TAL yang VALID karena kejadiannya BARENG dan email Centrin JARANG
problem 

Sekarang tebak aja, ini TAL positif atau negatif dengan digabung
ama TA...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, noto prawiro nt...@... wrote:

 IHSG aman mbah tutup di 257X lagi hari ini
 
 --- On Thu, 25/2/10, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote:
 
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 Subject: Re: [ob] Regional Asia pagi ini minus
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 10:02 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Â 
 
 
 
  
 
 

  
  
   Email Centrin embah lagi PUTUS bareng ama IHSG -26 TAL nih
 
 
 
 IHSG suck, B7 buy... hehehe...
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Julia Perez julliaz@  wrote:
 
 
 
  Mbah, mungkin hr ini adalah hr baik buat bozz mentrf kerugiannya ke trader,
 
  mumpung dow lg ijo (teori defense mechanism bd ..) 
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   _ _ __
 
  From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ...
 
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 
  Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 9:11:22 AM
 
  Subject: [ob] Regional Asia pagi ini minus
 
  
 
  Dow naik lumayan tadi malam tapi bursa Asia rata rata minus
 
  pagi ini
 
  
 
  Tanya kenapa ?
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [ob] IHSG technical

2010-02-24 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
maen perosotan lg di wave c, 

perosotannya udah diminyakin,
kayanya kenceng neh 
pake trigernya apa ya si bozz ???

 



From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 11:23:51 AM
Subject: [ob] IHSG technical

IHSG technical

IHSG saat ini 2541 -38 

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pibjkseew1.png

TAL memang asyik...





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Re: [ob] IHSG Technical

2010-01-12 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Mbah, di RTI jam 11:57 ada berita ICW menemukan kasus pajak BUMI sebsr 5,7 T
CMIIW.





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, January 13, 2010 1:32:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] IHSG Technical

Coba lagi... REFRESH...

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, bayu_kusuma_wardh...@... wrote:

 Mbah kok ga bs linknya..:)
 
 
 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:21:33 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] IHSG Technical
 
 IHSG Technical
 
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pibjkse.png
 
 - Momentum AO divergen terhadap IHSG







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[ob] Donasi 2010 buat Mbah. Thanks a lot Mbah.

2010-01-06 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Mumpung msh awal taun dan lg musim ujan duit .
Mohon ide donasi 2010 buat Mbah sbg ungkapan rasa
trm ksh kita smua atas bimbingan beliau.
Saham .
Lot 
Akan dijual dan ditrf ke Mbah seblm Christmas 2010.
Pak DE, Elaine dan para Senior.
Advice please  


  

Re: [ob] BoZZ wants it Down, IHSG pas di alligator's teeth (basic line) 2466.

2009-12-20 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
mantulkah?? From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.comSent: Mon, December 21, 2009 10:36:01 AMSubject: [ob] BoZZ wants it Down










 
 

















Si Bozz emang mau IHSG down, saham-saham jagoan
digebuk.., ngga tau maksudnya ape nih... 

  

JT 

  

 























  

Re: [ob] Etrading lagi down ?

2009-12-15 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Jam 20:07
Udah bs buka Mbah. Confirmed.





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 7:39:24 PM
Subject: [ob] Etrading lagi down ?

Tolong liatin dong:

- Apakah saat ini Etrading lagi down jam 19:35 ?





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Re: [ob] Data harian BEI dipassword ?

2009-12-02 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
http://www.idx.web.id/Download_Data/Daily/Stock_Summary/
http://www.idx.web.id/Download_Data/Daily/

coba disini.





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:44:27 PM
Subject: [ob] Data harian BEI dipassword ?

Data harian yg biasa diambil disini:

http://202.155.2.90/download_data/daily/

Sekarang dipassword...


Ada yg tahu kenapa ? 

dan dimana tempat download alternatifnya ?





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Re: [ob] Data harian BEI dipassword ?

2009-12-02 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
pakai 7zip -- extract here, 
file akan berubah jadi SS091202.DBF, 
trus di contotxt





From: I_R_G_7_I ruzli...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 8:35:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Data harian BEI dipassword ?

  

Cara convert ke metastocknya gimana ya ?


2009/12/2 Julia Perez jull...@yahoo.com















  


 
  
 
http://www.idx.web.id/Download_Data/Daily/Stock_Summary/
http://www.idx.web.id/Download_Data/Daily/

coba disini.





From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 7:44:27 PM

Subject: [ob] Data harian BEI dipassword ?


Data harian yg biasa diambil disini:

http://202.155.2.90/download_data/daily/

Sekarang dipassword...


Ada yg tahu kenapa ? 

dan dimana tempat download alternatifnya ?






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Re: Bls: [ob] Re: FULL MOON? TAL?

2009-12-01 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
jd penasaran, full moon 2009,

10 April - 9 May - 7 June - 7 July - 5 August - 
3 Sept - 3 Oct - 1 Nov - 1 Dec - 30 Dec.
hayo atuh kang iching, buktiken...







From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:09:21 PM
Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: FULL MOON? TAL?

Kalo mau buktiin ini BENER atau OMONG KOSONG, gampang:
- Ambil data yg cukup banyak, say 10 sample.
- Periksa harga deket FULL MOON selama 10 bulan terakhir.
- Hitung berapa yg bener dan berapa yg salah, dari sini kita
  bisa tahu PROSENTASE keberhasilan metoda ini.
- Jika keberhasilan lebih dari 60%, maka metoda ini BENAR,
  jika keberhasilan 50%, metoda ini OMONG KOSONG

Pak Iching, coba anda hitung berapa persen KEBERHASILAN metoda
ini ?.

Kalo mau kita yg ngitungin, anda kasih tanggal Full Moon untuk
10 bulan terakhir, dan kita test untuk 10 macam saham jika
perlu...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jku...@... wrote:

 Mungkin ini adalah bagian dari teknik Iching. Karena Iching adalah ilmu yg 
 mempelajari keharmonisan alam. Semua siklus alam mempengaruhi siklus yg 
 lainnya. Bukankah begitu pak Iching? Karena saya hanya memperkirakan saja. 
 
 
 Salam,
 
 
 Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: swan silo swan_gro...@...
 Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 21:40:25 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: FULL MOON? TAL?
 
 udah ga percayasama TA kalee
 
 
 
 
 
 Dari: highwaysta...@... highwaysta...@...
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Terkirim: Sel, 1 Desember, 2009 20:26:57
 Judul: Re: [ob] Re: FULL MOON? TAL?
 
  
 Metode yg aneh...aya2 wae
 Sent from my computer of course!
 
 
 From:  iching_prediction iching_prediction@ yahoo.com 
 Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:23:14 -
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [ob] Re: FULL MOON? TAL?
  
 salah satu strategi ane maen saham yaitu beli pas 1-2 hari sebelum fullmoon 
 en tp pas fullmoon+1.. he..he
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, iching_prediction 
 iching_prediction@ ... wrote:
 
  Ada yg perhatiin langit nga ya malam ini? Bulan uda bulet. Tanda apa 
  ya...He..He
 
 
 
  
 
 
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 Yahoo! otomatis membuka 2 halaman favorit Anda setiap kali Anda membuka 
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Re: [ob] Kapok ama B7 -- 5 lot BNBR.

2009-11-30 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
@TimurLaut.
donasi buat milis ob, beli 5 lot bnbr dan akan dijual nanti sebelum Natal 2009,
hasil jual bnbr tsb akan didonasikan ke ob. Ayo ikutan...
link: milis obrolan bandar -- data base -- OB Donation Program.





From: TimurLaut i4...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 5:16:33 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Kapok ama B7

 


Ada yg bisa tolong cerita ttg 5 lot BNBR ini?
Maklum NKOB




 From: mekindascrewel siangmalamph...@yahoo.co.id
To: Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 5:13:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Kapok ama B7

  
Tapi I masi tetep simpen 5 lot BNBR buat donasi OB kok , yang I yakin akan 
worth around IDR 125 k by christmas nanti .

Hiks

RIP B7 ... See u in hell where you belong .


 

 
From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo. com 
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:05:46 -0800 (PST)
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] Kapok ama B7
  
Wkkwkwkkwk masa gt aja kapok sehB7 volume paling yahud.no risk no 
gainwithout B7 there will be no liquidity in BEI..kering kerontang... 
..without liquidity there will be no creation/destructio n of wealth.alias 
kaga gerak marketwkkwkwkwk kw





 From: stock.breeder@ yahoo.com stock.breeder@ yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 4:54:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] Kapok ama B7

  


Hihihihihihihihi bozz are giggling while read this ^^ 




-Original Message- 
From: mekindascrewel siangmalamphoto@ yahoo.co. id 
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:47:17 
To: Obrolan Bandarobrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com 
Subject: [ob] Kapok ama B7 

I tadi sudah CL semua I punya b7 . 
I kapok la main ini saham2 setan . 
Mending juga I mainnya saham2 tak jelas skalian macam2 CNKO , KARK , DGIK dllsb 
, mungkin bisa lebih baik . 
So mulai hari ini I mau declare bahwasanya I akan bersih B7 from now on . 
B7 = 5 B2 





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Re: [ob] Hexa

2009-11-05 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
ada resistance berat di 2925 ini ya,moga" jebol dgn vol gede dan maen diatas 3000an lg.salah satu saham kesayangan mbah kan hexa ini (dr harga 900an tuh)From: JsxSniper jsxsni...@yahoo.co.idTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:39:08 AMSubject: [ob] Hexa










 
 

















Break downtrend hourly.. 

Moga bertahan sampe closing.. 

 

























  

[ob] Trailer di Jalan Tol.

2009-10-18 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
sapa tuh parkir trailer di km 18.9 - 19.1 ??
bikin sepet mata aja.
Jendral Arto lg panasin mesin Bugati ya...
Aku tunggu di km 19.2 after that you can 
fly me to the moon and let me dance 
among the stars


  

[ob] Jalan Tol aja, Jendral Arto.

2009-10-16 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Jendral Arto mo ke erpot, lewat jalan tol aja,
tp ada info km 18,7 banyak lobang tuh.
Hv a nice w'end Jendral.








  

Re: Bls: [ob] Jalan Tol aja, Jendral Arto.

2009-10-16 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
byk anak singkong nongkrong di km 18.6
jalanan jd macet dah...
bungkusss buat mg dpn.
good work Jendral.
hepi hepi w'end all.





From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, October 16, 2009 3:39:18 PM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Jalan Tol aja, Jendral Arto.

ya, sing penting wes masuk pas di trendline, :D

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 false bp...
 
 2009/10/16 billy_budiman92 billybudima...@...
 
 
 
  Ok Jend
 
 
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   udah break Peak tuh.
   hajar kanan aja lagi..
  
  
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Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
tapi harga nikel turun 565 jadi 18.310, ngaruh ga ya??




From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 8:20:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

Technical punya si Bill William ini lagi embah pake buat
EXPERIMENT, embah baru ngoprek ini baru beberapa hari doang.

Sebenarnya embah sudah tahu metoda Profitunity ini sejak lama
tapi baru embah pake di Windows XP. Di PC yg lama Windows 98,
engga jalan karena udah bulukan... hehehe...

Sebagai gambaran, si Bill ini seorang Phd dan punya pengalaman
trading lebih dari 30 tahun, dia dibantu oleh 2 Phd matematik
untuk mengembangkan metoda Profitunity. Ini cerita udah lama
yaitu ketika embah baca bukunya Trading Chaos beberapa tahun
yg lalu.

Jika experimen ini berhasil embah mau menggabungkan metoda Marketwise
Technicals dengan metoda si Bill William ini, mudah mudahan
bisa jadi Tool yg COOL buat member OB...

Jadi monitor saja keberhasilan Gabungan kedua metoda ini, kalo
hasilnya bagus, anda bisa ikutan...

Memang medan SAAT INI KURANG BAGUS untuk mentest TOOL INI
karena ENGGA ADA DANA SEGAR yg masuk ke BEI, jadi penyerbuan tadi pagi itu 
MURNI BANDAR'S ACTION engga pake duit.

BD kemarin menjalankan scenario 1 tapi penurunan indexnya 
engga cocok dengan scenarionya, jadi ini scenario 1 BOONGAN makanya
embah posting: SERBU ... jadi ini murni BA, lalu embah cari
Justifikasi TAnya yaitu New wave 5... hehehe... makanya embah
kurang tidur semalaem...

Tapi kita optimis aja bahwa ini BENER BENER WAVE 5 sampe market
membuktikan INI SALAH... hehehe...

Sebagai catatan:
- Subwave 5 pada puncak IHSG adalah periode Distribusi, jadi
  WAJAR aja kalo banyak salah

Tenang aja pak Rei, masih ada embah... hehehe...




--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, highwaysta...@... wrote:

 Mbah, dgn keadaan market yg begini lesu apakah petunjuk TA msh berfungsi 100% 
 krn sdh terbukti byk saham yg gagal walau TA sdh menunjukkan akan bergerak  
 vol mendukung?
 Cmiiw...yah, memang yg penting usaha sih hehehe
 
 Sent from my computer of course!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@...
 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:50:38 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [ob] INCO: Technicals
 
 INCO: Technicals
 
 - Wave terpilin dengan garis merah artinya INCO sudah siap utk 
   suatu gerakan yg cukup besar
 - Momentun and it's Acceleration is increasing (green)
 - Resist: Green Circle
 - Suport: Red Circle
 
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Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
bukan tuh, ini jupe yg suka msk saham, hehehe.
mbah, inconya galak bgt, dah ke utara 3%,
mbah emang moi, saluuutt 





From: EB™ edbami...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 9:28:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

  

Ini jupe yg seksi itu ya?? Yg skrg sering masuk infotainment

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!


From:  Julia Perez jull...@yahoo.com 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:36:48 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William
  
tapi harga nikel turun 565 jadi 18.310, ngaruh ga ya??




From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 8:20:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

Technical punya si Bill William ini lagi embah pake buat
EXPERIMENT, embah baru ngoprek ini baru beberapa hari doang.

Sebenarnya embah sudah tahu metoda Profitunity ini sejak lama
tapi baru embah pake di Windows XP. Di PC yg lama Windows 98,
engga jalan karena udah bulukan... hehehe...

Sebagai gambaran, si Bill ini seorang Phd dan punya pengalaman
trading lebih dari 30 tahun, dia dibantu oleh 2 Phd matematik
untuk mengembangkan metoda Profitunity. Ini cerita udah lama
yaitu ketika embah baca bukunya Trading Chaos beberapa tahun
yg lalu.

Jika experimen ini berhasil embah mau menggabungkan metoda Marketwise
Technicals dengan metoda si Bill William ini, mudah mudahan
bisa jadi Tool yg COOL buat member OB...

Jadi monitor saja keberhasilan Gabungan kedua metoda ini, kalo
hasilnya bagus, anda bisa ikutan...

Memang medan SAAT INI KURANG BAGUS untuk mentest TOOL INI
karena ENGGA ADA DANA SEGAR yg masuk ke BEI, jadi penyerbuan tadi pagi itu 
MURNI BANDAR'S ACTION engga pake duit.

BD kemarin menjalankan scenario 1 tapi penurunan indexnya 
engga cocok dengan scenarionya, jadi ini scenario 1 BOONGAN makanya
embah posting: SERBU ... jadi ini murni BA, lalu embah cari
Justifikasi TAnya yaitu New wave 5... hehehe... makanya embah
kurang tidur semalaem...

Tapi kita optimis aja bahwa ini BENER BENER WAVE 5 sampe market
membuktikan INI SALAH... hehehe...

Sebagai catatan:
- Subwave 5 pada puncak IHSG adalah periode Distribusi, jadi
  WAJAR aja kalo banyak salah

Tenang aja pak Rei, masih ada embah... hehehe...




--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, highwaystar91@ ... wrote:

 Mbah, dgn keadaan market yg begini lesu apakah petunjuk TA msh berfungsi 100% 
 krn sdh terbukti byk saham yg gagal walau TA sdh menunjukkan akan bergerak  
 vol mendukung?
 Cmiiw...yah, memang yg penting usaha sih hehehe
 
 Sent from my computer of course!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ...
 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:50:38 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [ob] INCO: Technicals
 
 INCO: Technicals
 
 - Wave terpilin dengan garis merah artinya INCO sudah siap utk 
   suatu gerakan yg cukup besar
 - Momentun and it's Acceleration is increasing (green)
 - Resist: Green Circle
 - Suport: Red Circle
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwinco.png





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Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

2009-10-13 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
nikel 18.750 (11:15) go INCO north.. north!!!





From: Julia Perez jull...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, October 14, 2009 10:31:40 AM
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

  


bukan tuh, ini jupe yg suka msk saham, hehehe.
mbah, inconya galak bgt, dah ke utara 3%,
mbah emang moi, saluuutt 





From: EB™ edbami...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 9:28:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

 

Ini jupe yg seksi itu ya?? Yg skrg sering masuk infotainment

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!


From:  Julia Perez jull...@yahoo.com 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 06:36:48 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William
  
tapi harga nikel turun 565 jadi 18.310, ngaruh ga ya??




From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, October 13, 2009 8:20:09 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] INCO: Technicals + Bill William

Technical punya si Bill William ini lagi embah pake buat
EXPERIMENT, embah baru ngoprek ini baru beberapa hari doang.

Sebenarnya embah sudah tahu metoda Profitunity ini sejak lama
tapi baru embah pake di Windows XP. Di PC yg lama Windows 98,
engga jalan karena udah bulukan... hehehe...

Sebagai gambaran, si Bill ini seorang Phd dan punya pengalaman
trading lebih dari 30 tahun, dia dibantu oleh 2 Phd matematik
untuk mengembangkan metoda Profitunity. Ini cerita udah lama
yaitu ketika embah baca bukunya Trading Chaos beberapa tahun
yg lalu.

Jika experimen ini berhasil embah mau menggabungkan metoda Marketwise
Technicals dengan metoda si Bill William ini, mudah mudahan
bisa jadi Tool yg COOL buat member OB...

Jadi monitor saja keberhasilan Gabungan kedua metoda ini, kalo
hasilnya bagus, anda bisa ikutan...

Memang medan SAAT INI KURANG BAGUS untuk mentest TOOL INI
karena ENGGA ADA DANA SEGAR yg masuk ke BEI, jadi penyerbuan tadi pagi itu 
MURNI BANDAR'S ACTION engga pake duit.

BD kemarin menjalankan scenario 1 tapi penurunan indexnya 
engga cocok dengan scenarionya, jadi ini scenario 1 BOONGAN makanya
embah posting: SERBU ... jadi ini murni BA, lalu embah cari
Justifikasi TAnya yaitu New wave 5... hehehe... makanya embah
kurang tidur semalaem...

Tapi kita optimis aja bahwa ini BENER BENER WAVE 5 sampe market
membuktikan INI SALAH... hehehe...

Sebagai catatan:
- Subwave 5 pada puncak IHSG adalah periode Distribusi, jadi
  WAJAR aja kalo banyak salah

Tenang aja pak Rei, masih ada embah... hehehe...




--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, highwaystar91@ ... wrote:

 Mbah, dgn keadaan market yg begini lesu apakah petunjuk TA msh berfungsi 100% 
 krn sdh terbukti byk saham yg gagal walau TA sdh menunjukkan akan bergerak  
 vol mendukung?
 Cmiiw...yah, memang yg penting usaha sih hehehe
 
 Sent from my computer of course!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ...
 Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:50:38 
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Subject: [ob] INCO: Technicals
 
 INCO: Technicals
 
 - Wave terpilin dengan garis merah artinya INCO sudah siap utk 
   suatu gerakan yg cukup besar
 - Momentun and it's Acceleration is increasing (green)
 - Resist: Green Circle
 - Suport: Red Circle
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwinco.png





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Re: [ob] pak tasrul

2009-09-30 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Pak Tasrul dan Kel dlm keadaan baik, kbr dikrm via facebook oleh Pak Tasrul. 
THANKS GOD. 





From: tsetiawa...@yahoo.com tsetiawa...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 8:12:30 PM
Subject: [ob] pak tasrul

   
Rekan2sehubunga n dgn adanya gempa di padang...apakah ada teman2 yg bisa/ 
sudah bisa menghubungi pak tasrul..seingat saya beliau masih di padang...saya 
coba hub ke hp tidak bisa
Mohon infonya

---Toto Setiawan ---

   


  

[ob] OOT: VIRUS DI FACEBOOK

2009-09-28 Terurut Topik Julia Perez










dari milis tetangga:

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menyimpan fungsi
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berikut :

· secara otomatis virus ini akan terkirim ke semua nama dalam 
daftar
alamat anda dengan judul Sebuah Kartu Untuk Anda ( Une Carte 
Pour
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· begitu kartu virtual itu terbuka, 
virus itu akan membekukan komputer
sehingga penggunanya harus memulainya 
kembali; kalau anda menekan
CTRL+ALT+ DEL atau perintah untuk restart, virus 
itu akan merusak Zero
dari Sektor Boot hard disk, sehingga hard disk akan 
rusak
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Menurut CNN, virus itu dalam beberapa jam 
sudah menimbulkan kepanikan
di New York . Peringatan ini telah diterima oleh 
pegawai Microsoft
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Jangan membuka e-mail dengan judul Sebuah 
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Re: Bls: [ob] Ipot !!!!

2009-09-23 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
logout, exit, masuk lg, dah jln tuh.



From: er1ck er1...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:18:33 AM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Ipot 

   
MATOT matot


2009/9/24 ferdi chan ferdychan2007@ yahoo.co. id












  
 
sama boss di tempat saya juga

--- Pada Kam, 24/9/09, Peter Alimin milis...@live. com menulis:


Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com
Judul: [ob] Ipot 
Kepada: OB  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Kamis, 24 September, 2009, 10:11 AM


Kok ga bs msk ya?
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Re: Bls: [ob] Ipot !!!!

2009-09-23 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
logout, exit, masuk lg, dah jln tuh.



From: er1ck er1...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:18:33 AM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Ipot 

   
MATOT matot


2009/9/24 ferdi chan ferdychan2007@ yahoo.co. id












  
 
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Dari: Peter Alimin milis...@live. com
Judul: [ob] Ipot 
Kepada: OB  obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Tanggal: Kamis, 24 September, 2009, 10:11 AM


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[ob] China Said to Plan Tightening of Capital Requirements for Banks

2009-08-21 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
China Said to Plan Tightening of Capital Requirements for Banks
   2009-08-21 03:24:15.297 GMT
  
  
   By Bloomberg News
Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) -- China plans to tighten capital
   requirements for banks, threatening to curb the record lending
   that’s fueled a 60 percent rally in the nation’s stock market,
   three people familiar with the matter said.
The China Banking Regulatory Commission sent a draft of
   rule changes to banks on Aug. 19 requiring them to deduct all
   existing holdings of subordinated and hybrid debt sold by other
   lenders from supplementary capital, said the people, who have
   seen the document. Banks have until Aug. 25 to give feedback,
   said the people, who declined to be identified as the matter is
   private.
As a result, banks may need to rein in lending or sell
   shares to lift capital adequacy ratios to the 12 percent
   mandated by the regulator. Chinese stocks briefly entered a so-
   called bear market this week on concerns the government would
   stymie new loans that exceeded $1 trillion in the first half. A
   news department official at the regulator declined to comment by
   phone and didn’t immediately respond to a faxed inquiry.
“This move will cut one of the most important funding
   sources for banks,” said Sheng Nan, an analyst at UOB Kayhian
   Investment Co. in Shanghai. Banks will “have to either raise
   more equity capital or slow down lending and other capital
   consuming businesses to stay afloat.”
China’s banks have sold 236.7 billion yuan ($34.6 billion)
   of subordinated bonds so far this year, almost triple the amount
   issued during all of 2008. The banking regulator estimates about
   half of the subordinated bonds in circulation are cross-held
   among banks.
  
 Record Lending
  
Those debt sales came as new loans rose to a record 7.37
   trillion yuan in the first half. About 1.16 trillion yuan of
   loans were invested in stocks in the first five months of this
   year, China Business News reported on June 29, citing Wei
   Jianing, a deputy director at the Development and Research
   Center under the State Council, China’s cabinet.
“I’m worried about a correction in a market that has been
   driven by cheap money,” Devan Kaloo, who oversees $11.5 billion
   as head of global emerging markets at Aberdeen Asset Management
   Ltd., said Aug. 19.
China’s benchmark Shanghai Composite Index almost doubled
   during the first seven months of this year through Aug. 4, after
   falling 65 percent in 2008. Since reaching this year’s high on
   Aug. 4, it’s plummeted 15 percent. The index on Aug. 19 briefly
   fell 20 percent from this year’s high, the threshold for a bear
   market, before ending the day down 19.8 percent. The gauge
   rebounded yesterday, rising 4.5 percent.
  
Credit Concerns
  
The weighted average capital adequacy ratio of 205
   commercial Chinese banks at the end of 2008 was 12 percent, up
   3.7 percentage points from a year earlier, according to the
   industry’s annual report. The weighting was strongly affected by
   the nation’s five-largest banks, which account for 52 percent of
   assets in the industry.
The banking regulator has indicated it’s concerned about
   excessive credit creation. Last month, the commission ordered
   lenders to raise reserves against non-performing loans, to
   ensure loans for fixed asset investments go to projects that
   support the real economy and announced plans to tighten rules on
   working capital loans.
Banks are allowed to count subordinated bonds they sell as
   supplementary or lower-Tier 2 capital. In the event of
   bankruptcy, holders of subordinated notes receive payment only
   after other debt claims are paid in full.
The regulator’s rule change requires banks to subtract all
   existing holdings of subordinate bonds issued by other lenders
   from their own subordinated bonds being counted as supplementary
   capital.
  
 Hybrid Bonds
  
In addition, the new rules also limit the amount of
   subordinated or hybrid bonds banks can hold, the people said. A
   bank’s holding of subordinated and hybrid bonds issued by a
   single bank can’t exceed 15 percent of its core capital, the
   people said. Holdings of all subordinate and hybrid bonds issued
   by banks can’t exceed 20 percent of core capital.
The regulator has called on small publicly traded banks to
   have a minimum capital adequacy ratio of 12 percent by year’s
   end, up from the current 10 percent. The ratio, a measure of how
   much in losses a bank can absorb, is calculated by dividing
   capital by risk-weighted assets. A bank’s risk-weighted assets
   are comprised partly of loans.
After deducting subordinated bonds issued by other banks,
   lenders must either raise core capital or reduce their loans to
  

Re: [ob] inco

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
MRE sdh jauh melewati highestnya (June '09)
ANTM n INCO?  Laggard?  
Watch Aria's chart.






From: Aria Santoso ariasant...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 1:26:03 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] inco

  
MRE hit technical target today @ $1.35.

Jullia wrote:
 

 Compare since March 2009:
 Chart INCO, ANTM and MRE (ausie,biggest nickel company)
 What u see for INCO and ANTM in advance?

 http://www.asx. com.au/asx/ research/ companyInfo. do?by=asxCode 
 asxCode=mre# chart 
 http://www.asx. com.au/asx/ research/ companyInfo. do?by=asxCode 
 asxCode=mre# chart

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 mailto:obrolan- bandar%40yahoogr oups.com , Hans Kwee hanskwee01@ ... 
 wrote:
 
  Cucian di sikat sejak 14 juli 2009 3650
  jemuran di taruh di 4500 tadi
 
  supir ugal2 an, jemuran di samber supir...
  yang udah masuk... peluang taruh jemuran anda 5600
  tetapi gak mungkin 1 - 2 hari kering.
 
  taruh pengaman bila hujan lebat di 4500
 
  ane di jemput gak ya... males uber2 supir yang ugal2an
 
  thx
  Hans
  Disclaimer On


   


  

Re: [ob] Re: INKP TINS (to prof JT)

2009-07-23 Terurut Topik Julia Perez
Positive  inventory data across the board
Global  pulp producers’ inventories and European pulp consumers’  inventories
were  down considerably in June on a sequential basis, according to PPPC  and
Utipulp.  Also, according to Europulp, pulp inventories were down significantly 
 at
European  ports in June. The de-stocking process along the whole chain has  been
happening  faster than we anticipated. This, coupled with faster than  
forecasted
pulp  price increases could result in upside  risks to our current pulp price 
estimates
of  US$530/t in 2009 and US$570/t in 2010.
Global  producers’ inventories down to 29 days
PPPC  (Pulp and Paper Products Council) reported monthly pulp markets  
statistics
for  June 2009. Global producers’ inventories were down to 29 days versus  34
days in  May and 32 days a year ago. On hardwood, inventories decreased to  33
days of  supply versus 38 days in May and 35 days a year ago. Such low  
inventory
levels  leave pulp producers in a more comfortable situation to go through  the
seasonally  weaker Northern Hemisphere summer months.
European  consumers are also de-stocked
According  to Utipulp (European Market Wood Pulp Users), pulp  consumers’
inventories  were 742ktons in June, down 5% MoM, 28% YoY and 36% below
historical  average of 1,168ktons. However, in our view, given paper  producers’
higher  working capital needs, inventories at the consumer level should stay  
low
for the  remainder of the year.
China  remains the question mark; US/Europe:  signs of life
Also  according to PPPC, pulp shipments to China in June were slightly  down
MoM  (-1%), but still up 67% YTD. Shipments to China were 722ktons in  June,
versus  727ktons in May and ~800ktons monthly average since December  2008.
We have  been calling for lower demand from China after the most recent  pulp
buying  spree since late 2008 and believe the downward trend in pulp shipments  
to
China  could continue over 2H09. On a positive note, pulp shipments to US  and
Europe  were up 11% and 9% MoM, respectively, showing pulp demand might  be
picking  up in these markets.
VCP  leveraged to higher prices; prefer Suzano on valuation
This  week, VCP announced intentions to increase pulp prices for all  regions,
effective  in August, which could take European prices to US$550-560/t. VCP  is
the  most leveraged to increasing pulp prices – for each US$50/t price  
increase,
we  estimate 2010e EBITDA would increase by 20%. As for Suzano, we  estimate
each  US$50/t price increase represents a 10% increase to 2010e EBITDA.  We
prefer  Suzano (BUY, R$21/share PO) mostly as it is trading at 6.8x  
EV/EBITDA2010E,  compared to VCP (Neutral, US$13/ADR PO) at 9.6x.


  

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