[ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Tiger Roar
Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong

Gak ngerti... bin mumet


Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
SAya buka di RTI...
NET PROFIT BUMI
3Q2009... USD 362 million
FY 2008  USD 645 million

koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
source RTI
-
 JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday
that
 its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred
stripping
 costs.
Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $*190.45 million*from
 an adjusted net profit of $*371.69 million in 2008.*
Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in
a
 text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
 stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are
the
 expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations.
Without the deferred stripping costs,* Bumi's full-year net profit
could*
* have risen to $440.81 million*, Srivastava said, adding that the figure
was
 above the market consensus.
Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday.
He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric
tons
 of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal
at
 an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
 previous year.
But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.
-


Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik kokolato
Ini april mop kali pak halim...dileep lagi ngerjain bandar dow..
 He..he
Kang bagus..any view??

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-Original Message-
From: Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 17:26:58 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong

Gak ngerti... bin mumet


Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
SAya buka di RTI...
NET PROFIT BUMI
3Q2009... USD 362 million
FY 2008  USD 645 million

koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
source RTI
-
 JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday
that
 its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred
stripping
 costs.
Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $*190.45 million*from
 an adjusted net profit of $*371.69 million in 2008.*
Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in
a
 text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
 stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are
the
 expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations.
Without the deferred stripping costs,* Bumi's full-year net profit
could*
* have risen to $440.81 million*, Srivastava said, adding that the figure
was
 above the market consensus.
Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday.
He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric
tons
 of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal
at
 an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
 previous year.
But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.
-



Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Irwan Napitupulu
Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara
dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga
sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x

Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga
punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti
benernya :)

IAN

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail.com wrote:



 Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong

 Gak ngerti... bin mumet


 Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
 SAya buka di RTI...
 NET PROFIT BUMI
 3Q2009... USD 362 million
 FY 2008  USD 645 million

 koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
 source RTI
 -
   JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said
 Thursday that
  its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred
 stripping
  costs.
 Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $*190.45 million
 * from
  an adjusted net profit of $*371.69 million in 2008.*
 Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in
 a
  text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
  stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are
 the
  expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations.
 Without the deferred stripping costs,* Bumi's full-year net profit
 could*
 * have risen to $440.81 million*, Srivastava said, adding that the figure
 was
  above the market consensus.
 Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday.
 He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric
 tons
  of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the
 coal at
  an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
  previous year.
 But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.
 -


 


Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 08) 
,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan sampai 275 
jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 stripping cost 
sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA (maybe above 500 
Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald dll) would be 
included)!!!





From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

   
Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga 
sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
 
Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga 
punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti 
benernya :)
 
IAN


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. com wrote:



Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 



Gak ngerti... bin mumet




Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
SAya buka di RTI... 
NET PROFIT BUMI 
3Q2009... USD 362 million
FY 2008  USD 645 million


koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
source RTI
 - - - - -
 JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday that
 its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred stripping
 costs. 
Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million from
 an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in a
 text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
 stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are the
 expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
 have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure was
 above the market consensus. 
Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric tons
 of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal at
 an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
 previous year. 
But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.   
 - - - - -



 


  

Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik kangduren
nah lohhh...
koq bisa pak stripping cost dibayar secara akumulasi belakangan?
bukannya tiap kuartal masuk beban operasional???
kacau kali ini aturan laporan BUMI

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andre Andre andre...@... wrote:

 Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 08) 
 ,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan sampai 
 275 jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 stripping 
 cost sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA (maybe above 
 500 Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald dll) would be 
 included)!!!
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@...
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please
 

 Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
 dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga 
 sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
  
 Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga 
 punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti 
 benernya :)
  
 IAN
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. com wrote:
 
 
 
 Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 
 
 
 
 Gak ngerti... bin mumet
 
 
 
 
 Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
 SAya buka di RTI... 
 NET PROFIT BUMI 
 3Q2009... USD 362 million
 FY 2008  USD 645 million
 
 
 koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
 source RTI
  - - - - -
  JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday 
  that
  its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred 
  stripping
  costs. 
 Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million 
  from
  an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
 Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in a
  text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
  stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are 
  the
  expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
 Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
  have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure was
  above the market consensus. 
 Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
 He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric tons
  of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal 
  at
  an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
  previous year. 
 But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.   
  - - - - -
 
 





Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik irwannapitupulu
Laba BUMI yg seperti ini sudah saya warning beberapa waktu yang lalu karena 
terkait stripping cost.

Jadi ngga perlu kaget lagi. Inilah salah satu alasan selain masalah pajak 
kenapa BUMI susah naiknya sementara saham lainnya pada gampang naiknya.

Kalau sudah keluar begini, bisa saja malah saham BUMI naik saat orang2 sudah 
takut masuk karena lapkeunya seperti itu.

Pintar2 saja nanti main BUMI nya. Kudu rada advance nih mainin BUMI :)

IAN
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-Original Message-
From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:10:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 08) 
,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan sampai 275 
jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 stripping cost 
sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA (maybe above 500 
Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald dll) would be 
included)!!!





From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

   
Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga 
sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
 
Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga 
punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti 
benernya :)
 
IAN


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. com wrote:



Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 



Gak ngerti... bin mumet




Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
SAya buka di RTI... 
NET PROFIT BUMI 
3Q2009... USD 362 million
FY 2008  USD 645 million


koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
source RTI
 - - - - -
 JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday that
 its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred stripping
 costs. 
Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million from
 an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in a
 text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
 stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are the
 expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
 have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure was
 above the market consensus. 
Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric tons
 of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal at
 an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
 previous year. 
But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.   
 - - - - -



 


  


Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik «MACHI»
Yess,
Kalau gitu tinggal tunggu terbang nih, tinggal tunggu trigger lap keu Q1. 
Sayangnya BUM BUM lap keunya selalu telat. 
Sebagai bahan perbandingan, INCO dan ANTM juga PER nya besar, tapi karna pada 
Q1 2010 diperkirakan akan naik, makanya tuh saham udah ngejoss duluan tapi 2 
emiten ini selalu tepat kasih laporan keuangan.
Dari berita sebelumnya valuasi investasi BUMI di newmont sudah meningkat 80 
persen dan BUMI udah punya 24 persen saham newmont.
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-Original Message-
From: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:10:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 08) 
,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan sampai 275 
jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 stripping cost 
sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA (maybe above 500 
Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald dll) would be 
included)!!!





From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

   
Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga 
sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
 
Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga 
punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti 
benernya :)
 
IAN


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. com wrote:



Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 



Gak ngerti... bin mumet




Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
SAya buka di RTI... 
NET PROFIT BUMI 
3Q2009... USD 362 million
FY 2008  USD 645 million


koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
source RTI
 - - - - -
 JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday that
 its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred stripping
 costs. 
Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million from
 an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in a
 text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
 stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are the
 expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
 have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure was
 above the market consensus. 
Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric tons
 of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal at
 an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
 previous year. 
But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.   
 - - - - -



 


  


Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
Bisa aja kali ya pak,tergantung policy aturan perusahaan





From: kangduren kangdu...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 8:16:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

   
nah lohhh...
koq bisa pak stripping cost dibayar secara akumulasi belakangan?
bukannya tiap kuartal masuk beban operasional? ??
kacau kali ini aturan laporan BUMI

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andre Andre andre...@.. . wrote:

 Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 08) 
 ,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan sampai 
 275 jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 stripping 
 cost sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA (maybe above 
 500 Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald dll) would be 
 included)!!!
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ ...
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please
 
 
 Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
 dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga 
 sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
 
 Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga 
 punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti 
 benernya :)
 
 IAN
 
 
 On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngirls@ gmail. com wrote:
 
 
 
 Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 
 
 
 
 Gak ngerti... bin mumet
 
 
 
 
 Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
 SAya buka di RTI... 
 NET PROFIT BUMI 
 3Q2009... USD 362 million
 FY 2008  USD 645 million
 
 
 koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
 source RTI
 --- - - - - - -
  JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday 
  that
  its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred 
  stripping
  costs. 
 Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million 
  from
  an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
 Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in a
  text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
  stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are 
  the
  expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
 Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
  have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure was
  above the market consensus. 
 Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
 He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric tons
  of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal 
  at
  an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
  previous year. 
 But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added. 
 --- - - - - - -
 
 



 


  

Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik kangduren
aneh, mestinya terlihat dari LK yg dulu2 adanya HUTANG
tapi hal spt ini bisa terlihat spt apa sebenarnya emiten BUMI ini, manuvernya 
benar2 perlu diwaspadai.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andre Andre andre...@... wrote:

 Bisa aja kali ya pak,tergantung policy aturan perusahaan
 
 
 
 
 
 From: kangduren kangdu...@...
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 8:16:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please
 

 nah lohhh...
 koq bisa pak stripping cost dibayar secara akumulasi belakangan?
 bukannya tiap kuartal masuk beban operasional? ??
 kacau kali ini aturan laporan BUMI
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andre Andre andref_r@ . wrote:
 
  Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 
  08) ,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan 
  sampai 275 jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 
  stripping cost sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA 
  (maybe above 500 Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald 
  dll) would be included)!!!
  
  
  
  
   _ _ __
  From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ ...
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please
  
  
  Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
  dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan 
  diharga sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
  
  Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan 
  juga punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin 
  pasti benernya :)
  
  IAN
  
  
  On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngirls@ gmail. com wrote:
  
  
  
  Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 
  
  
  
  Gak ngerti... bin mumet
  
  
  
  
  Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
  SAya buka di RTI... 
  NET PROFIT BUMI 
  3Q2009... USD 362 million
  FY 2008  USD 645 million
  
  
  koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
  source RTI
  --- - - - - - -
   JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday 
   that
   its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred 
   stripping
   costs. 
  Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million 
   from
   an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
  Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires 
   in a
   text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
   stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are 
   the
   expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
  Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
   have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure 
   was
   above the market consensus. 
  Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
  He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric 
   tons
   of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the 
   coal at
   an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
   previous year. 
  But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added. 
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Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Saham bintang
Laba BUMI Terpangkas 49%
http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2010/04/01/190202/1330559/6/laba-bumi-terpangkas-49

--- Pada Kam, 1/4/10, Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com menulis:

Dari: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
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Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Tanggal: Kamis, 1 April, 2010, 9:10 AM







 



  



  
  
  Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 
08) ,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan sampai 
275 jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 stripping 
cost sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA (maybe above 500 
Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald dll) would be 
included)!!!

From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please









 




  
  
  Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga 
sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
 
Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga 
punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti 
benernya :)
 
IAN


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. com wrote:




Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 


Gak ngerti... bin mumet




Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
SAya buka di RTI... 
NET PROFIT BUMI 
3Q2009... USD 362 million
FY 2008  USD 645 million


koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
source RTI
 - - - - -

 JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday that
 its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred stripping
 costs. 
    Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million from
 an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
    Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in a
 text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
 stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are the
 expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
    Without the deferred stripping costs, Bumi's full-year net profit could
 have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure was
 above the market consensus. 
    Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
    He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric tons
 of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal at
 an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
 previous year. 
    But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.   
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Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Andre Andre
Gpp..entar jg 4500





From: kangduren kangdu...@yahoo.com
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 9:12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

   
aneh, mestinya terlihat dari LK yg dulu2 adanya HUTANG.. ..
tapi hal spt ini bisa terlihat spt apa sebenarnya emiten BUMI ini, manuvernya 
benar2 perlu diwaspadai.

--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andre Andre andre...@.. . wrote:

 Bisa aja kali ya pak,tergantung policy aturan perusahaan
 
 
 
 
  _ _ __
 From: kangduren kangdu...@. ..
 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 8:16:32 PM
 Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please
 
 
 nah lohhh...
 koq bisa pak stripping cost dibayar secara akumulasi belakangan?
 bukannya tiap kuartal masuk beban operasional? ??
 kacau kali ini aturan laporan BUMI
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Andre Andre andref_r@ . wrote:
 
  Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 
  08) ,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan 
  sampai 275 jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 
  stripping cost sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA 
  (maybe above 500 Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald 
  dll) would be included)!!!
  
  
  
  
   _ _ __
  From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ ...
  To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
  Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please
  
  
  Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
  dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan 
  diharga sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
  
  Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan 
  juga punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin 
  pasti benernya :)
  
  IAN
  
  
  On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngirls@ gmail. com wrote:
  
  
  
  Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 
  
  
  
  Gak ngerti... bin mumet
  
  
  
  
  Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
  SAya buka di RTI... 
  NET PROFIT BUMI 
  3Q2009... USD 362 million
  FY 2008  USD 645 million
  
  
  koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
  source RTI
  --- - - - - - -
   JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday 
   that
   its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred 
   stripping
   costs. 
  Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million 
   from
   an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
  Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires 
   in a
   text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
   stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are 
   the
   expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
  Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
   have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure 
   was
   above the market consensus. 
  Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
  He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric 
   tons
   of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the 
   coal at
   an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
   previous year. 
  But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added. 
  --- - - - - - -
  
  
 



 


  

Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Djokro Wijaja
Kemaren DOID sudah di ospek/di plonco habis2an, Padahal akusisi BUMA sama
BERAU, sekarang saat nya BUMI deh, Target pertama 2150 dulu habis itu tembus
2000 dan 1500, masak iya, rugi kok diangkat .

Menurut ane yang newbie ini PELANGI CUAN 2010 BUMI bakal jadi kenyataan,
misalnya target 3000, dgn harga sekarang akhir tahun yah kurang menarik CUAN
nya, kalo 2000 yah bisa cuan 50%, kalo di buat 1500 yah bisa 100% CUAN

Gitu Caranya kalo mau di bikin BUMI menarik. Dari pada di tinggal player
ke DOID (BUMA +BERAU) yg lebih rame dan msh FRESHBARANG BARU euyyy..

* BUMI kan mainan nya Mbah heheheheh. Sorry Mbah, hanya bercanda, takut
kualat soalnya :)


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Saham bintang wasi...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Laba BUMI Terpangkas 49%

 http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2010/04/01/190202/1330559/6/laba-bumi-terpangkas-49

 --- Pada *Kam, 1/4/10, Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com* menulis:


 Dari: Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
 Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please
 Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Tanggal: Kamis, 1 April, 2010, 9:10 AM




 Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y
 08) ,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan
 sampai 275 jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009
 stripping cost sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA
 (maybe above 500 Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald
 dll) would be included)!!!

 --
 *From:* Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ gmail.com
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
 *Sent:* Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please



 Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara
 dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga
 sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x

 Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan
 juga punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin
 pasti benernya :)

 IAN

 On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. 
 comhttp://mc/compose?to=boysngi...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong

 Gak ngerti... bin mumet


 Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
 SAya buka di RTI...
 NET PROFIT BUMI
 3Q2009... USD 362 million
 FY 2008  USD 645 million

 koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
 source RTI
  - - - - -
   JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said
 Thursday that
  its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred
 stripping
  costs.
 Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $*190.45
 million* from
  an adjusted net profit of $*371.69 million in 2008.*
 Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires
 in a
  text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
  stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are
 the
  expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations.
 Without the deferred stripping costs,* Bumi's full-year net profit
 could*
 * have risen to $440.81 million*, Srivastava said, adding that the
 figure was
  above the market consensus.
 Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday.
 He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric
 tons
  of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the
 coal at
  an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
  previous year.
 But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.
  - - - - -





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Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik Tiger Roar
Semoga deh

Soalnya saya baca ada 2 berita aneh..
1. Soal stripping cost yang besar sekali.. aneh aja ngapain stipping cost
sampai sebesar itu.
2. Revised net profit 2008 dari USD 645M ke USD 317M

Jadi kalau dibaca yang benar... laba bersih BUMI turun dari 645M ke 190M
alias 70%

bagaimana implikasi dari revised earning 645 ke 317 ke cash flow dan balance
sheet ??

Semoga sebelum market open data yang benar sudah keluar

2010/4/1 irwannapitup...@gmail.com



 Laba BUMI yg seperti ini sudah saya warning beberapa waktu yang lalu karena
 terkait stripping cost.

 Jadi ngga perlu kaget lagi. Inilah salah satu alasan selain masalah pajak
 kenapa BUMI susah naiknya sementara saham lainnya pada gampang naiknya.

 Kalau sudah keluar begini, bisa saja malah saham BUMI naik saat orang2
 sudah takut masuk karena lapkeunya seperti itu.

 Pintar2 saja nanti main BUMI nya. Kudu rada advance nih mainin BUMI :)

 IAN

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 --
 *From: * Andre Andre andre...@yahoo.com
 *Date: *Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
 *To: *obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject: *Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

 Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y
 08) ,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan
 sampai 275 jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009
 stripping cost sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA
 (maybe above 500 Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald
 dll) would be included)!!!

 --
 *From:* Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitup...@gmail.com
 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please



 Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara
 dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga
 sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x

 Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan
 juga punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin
 pasti benernya :)

 IAN

 On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. 
 comboysngi...@gmail.com
  wrote:



 Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong

 Gak ngerti... bin mumet


 Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
 SAya buka di RTI...
 NET PROFIT BUMI
 3Q2009... USD 362 million
 FY 2008  USD 645 million

 koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
 source RTI
  - - - - -
   JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said
 Thursday that
  its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred
 stripping
  costs.
 Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $*190.45
 million* from
  an adjusted net profit of $*371.69 million in 2008.*
 Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires
 in a
  text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
  stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are
 the
  expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations.
 Without the deferred stripping costs,* Bumi's full-year net profit
 could*
 * have risen to $440.81 million*, Srivastava said, adding that the
 figure was
  above the market consensus.
 Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday.
 He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric
 tons
  of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the
 coal at
  an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
  previous year.
 But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.
  - - - - -




   



Re: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik wie 3277
kok ga ada source link nya berita ini?
meragukan. =)


Bls: [ob] BUMI..... LK ..translate please

2010-04-01 Terurut Topik dario kurniawan
kalo orang keuangan kantor saya bilang kalo akutansi pake model deferred 
stripping cost biasanya untuk utak atik keperluan pajak...artinya laba sengaja 
dicatatkan turun supaya bayar pajaknya lebih kecil dan laba besarnya kemudian 
hari sengaja diulur-ulur supaya pajak bisa ditekan terus...hehehe manajemen 
finance bumi orang2 cerdas tau

ahhh saya tidak terlalu paham akuntansi...pusindenger ulasan pakar di 
OB aja deh...

 
DarioAmran





Dari: Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail.com
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jum, 2 April, 2010 04:54:52
Judul: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

   
Semoga deh

Soalnya saya baca ada 2 berita aneh..
1. Soal stripping cost yang besar sekali.. aneh aja ngapain stipping cost 
sampai sebesar itu.
2. Revised net profit 2008 dari USD 645M ke USD 317M

Jadi kalau dibaca yang benar... laba bersih BUMI turun dari 645M ke 190M alias 
70%

bagaimana implikasi dari revised earning 645 ke 317 ke cash flow dan balance 
sheet ??

Semoga sebelum market open data yang benar sudah keluar


2010/4/1 irwannapitupulu@ gmail.com















  


 
  
 




Laba BUMI yg seperti ini sudah saya warning beberapa waktu yang lalu karena 
terkait stripping cost.

Jadi ngga perlu kaget lagi. Inilah salah satu alasan selain masalah pajak 
kenapa BUMI susah naiknya sementara saham lainnya pada gampang naiknya.

Kalau sudah keluar begini, bisa saja malah saham BUMI naik saat orang2 sudah 
takut masuk karena lapkeunya seperti itu.

Pintar2 saja nanti main BUMI nya. Kudu rada advance nih mainin BUMI :)

IAN
Sent from my BlackBerry®



From:  Andre Andre andre...@yahoo. com

Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 06:10:38 -0700 (PDT)
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please


Laba bersih Bumi itu naik dari 371JT USD k 440 jt USD(about 20% up from Y 08) 
,tapi gara2 stripping cost dari tahun 2003 - 2009 yg diakumulasikan sampai 275 
jt USD jadi dibilang labanya turunnah kalau yang 2003-2009 stripping cost 
sudah dibayar berarti Year 2010 Laba Bumi bakal MENGGILA (maybe above 500 
Million USD if non core/non coal business(Newmont, herald dll) would be 
included)!!!





 From: Irwan Napitupulu irwannapitupulu@ gmail.com
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, April 1, 2010 5:43:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI. LK ..translate please

  

 
  
 
Dengan laba bersih hanya USD190.45 juta dan diharga sekarang 2300, setara 
dengan kira2 PER 25.74x. Kalau pakai  laba bersih USD440.81 juta dan diharga 
sekarang 2300, setara dengan kira2 PER 11.12x
 
Dari perhitungan ini, maka BUMI punya peluang naik dari harga 2300, dan juga 
punya peluang turun dari harga 2300. Perkiraan saya kali saya jamin pasti 
benernya :)
 
IAN


On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Tiger Roar boysngi...@gmail. com wrote:



Tolong Translate LK BUMI dong 



Gak ngerti... bin mumet




Saya terus terang gak ngerti maksudnya apa
SAya buka di RTI... 
NET PROFIT BUMI 
3Q2009... USD 362 million
FY 2008  USD 645 million


koq beda banget dengan angka di bawahapa saya salah baca ?
source RTI
 - - - - -
 JAKARTA (Dow Jones)--Coal miner PT Bumi Resources (BUMI.JK) said Thursday 
 that
 its 2009 net profit fell 49% due mostly to lower sales and deferred stripping
 costs. 
Net profit for the January-to-December period fell to $190.45 million from
 an adjusted net profit of $371.69 million in 2008. 
Bumi Resources' spokesman Dileep Srivastava told Dow Jones Newswires in a
 text message that the company booked $275 million in accumulated deferred
 stripping costs, which had been amortized since 2003. Stripping costs are the
 expenses incurred in removing excess waste materials in mine operations. 
Without the deferred stripping costs,Bumi's full-year net profit could
 have risen to $440.81 million, Srivastava said, adding that the figure was
 above the market consensus. 
Bumi will give more details on its 2009 earnings on Monday. 
He said that in the full year of 2009, Bumi sold 58.4 million metric tons
 of coal, up 10% from 51.5 million tons by the end of 2008. It sold the coal 
 at
 an average selling price of $62 per ton, compared with $73 per ton in the
 previous year. 
But we expect the 2010 outlook to be very strong, he added.   
 - - - - -





 


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