[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Harga Timah bisa mencapai USD 30.000/ ton di tengah ketatnya pasokan dari Indonesia

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik kangduren
kalo utk produk timahnya sendiri harga mungkin akan terkendali, sebab 
cadangan timah memang terbatas (dibahas juga oleh mas Terry) dan 
faktor kenaikan harga minyak, komoditas juga ikut terangkat (lihat2 
sektor juga).
mid-term biar aman trading aja deh, memang saat sekarang kan semuanya 
masih float dan berdasarkan asumsi (6 bulan - 1 tahun).

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Andi Wahyudi 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Memang ada dua kontradiksi.
> 
> Pendukung bull: Harga timah bisa dikendalikan oleh kuota eksprot 
Indon.
> Pendukung bear: Akan ada yg PT/sell untuk cover loss SM or butuh 
fresh money.
> 
> Kira2 dari dua di atas, mana yg tarikannya lebih kencang ya?
> 
> kangduren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: keknya 
TINS masih bisa lanjut nariknya (mudah2an ga salah)
>  :)
>  
>  salam
>  




[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Harga Timah bisa mencapai USD 30.000/ ton di tengah ketatnya pasokan dari Indonesia

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Terry Astradika
ada baiknya memang ada 2 ato lebih info yang dijadiin referensi .. 
dibandingkan menelan mentah2 1 info saja yang belum tentu bagus..

sekedar mendukung FA-nya pak AA, tahun 2007 lalu ada yang pernah 
membahas cadangan timah di indoness tinggal 3-5 thn lagi, so 
kebetulan TINS setahu saya belum ada sumber eksplorasi timah baru, 
malah malah mo banting stir ke coal or emas tuh katanye..

jadi mo harga timah naik utk saat ini, bagi yang mo trading ya 
monggo, cuman utk long...aduu takutz deh kita..!!!

ciao! tetap sehat dan bersemangat..
note: kecuali nemu sumber eksplorasi emas baru yang bisa menyamai 
freeport dah contohnya, gw long jg mau...heheh...


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Saya juga melihat bahwa, meskiipun harga timah nanjak terus, TINS
> dalam waktu dekat akan turun. Bukan nakut2in. Cuma FA (feeling
> analysis) gw mbisiki gitu. Namanya juga feeling pemula, tentu
> kemungkinan salahnya besar :D... AKA ... Disc.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Andi Wahyudi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Bukan bermaksud menymapaikan bull atau bear
> > Per 1 APril ada yg kejar TINS..Mungkin ini ada hubungannya 
dengan harga
> > timah. Harga timah 3 Months-delivery naik tajam di perdagangan 
metal
> > Jan-Maret dan hasil transaksi 3 Months ini akan dideliver April-
Juni dan
> > dilaporkan di H1 2008.
> >
> > Sekali lagi saya hanya ingin menyampaikan, jadi mohon tidak 
diartikan
> > sebagai ajakan apapun. Ga enak kl salah n dimarahin banyak 
orang. Member OB
> > galak2 sih :-)
> >
> > Pizz
> >
> >
> >
> > Sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > $30.000 / Ton ...Wow...gurih nian :-)
> >
> >  --- tin berland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  > The base metal complex was indicated slightly higher
> >  > during London Metal Exchange premarket trade on
> >  > Wednesday, mostly on the back of a weaker dollar, a
> >  > trader with an LME ring dealer said. "Yesterday we
> >  > saw very small volumes, and today we are seeing a
> >  > similar thing. The market is probably up a little on
> >  > the weaker dollar," he said. The trader noted that
> >  > bellwether contract copper was stuck at
> >  > $8,350-8,650/mt in the short term, but if it climbed
> >  > higher and broke through $8,830/mt, a significant
> >  > resistance level, it was likely to trigger some
> >  > panic buying activity -- "people are still friendly
> >  > toward it". Copper was bid at $8,500/mt at 0855 GMT
> >  > up $70 from its previous floor trade close on
> >  > Tuesday. Tin was also higher on Wednesday morning,
> >  > gaining $200 to $21,200/mt. "Tin has been
> >  > fundamentally strong for a while now, there are
> >  > problems with concentrate supply, so the market
> >  > looks tight," the trader said, adding that the tin
> >  > industry would not be surprised to see it at
> >  > $30,000/mt.
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Harga Timah bisa mencapai USD 30.000/ ton di tengah ketatnya pasokan dari Indonesia

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Penutupan LME 17 April, Hampir semua metal merah kecuali timah.
http://semprametals.com/Commodities.asp

Tapi terserah Bozz aja deh

abdulrahim abdulrahim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Saya juga melihat bahwa, meskiipun harga timah nanjak terus, TINS
 dalam waktu dekat akan turun. Bukan nakut2in. Cuma FA (feeling
 analysis) gw mbisiki gitu. Namanya juga feeling pemula, tentu
 kemungkinan salahnya besar :D... AKA ... Disc.
 
 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Andi Wahyudi
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > Bukan bermaksud menymapaikan bull atau bear
 > Per 1 APril ada yg kejar TINS..Mungkin ini ada hubungannya dengan harga
 > timah. Harga timah 3 Months-delivery naik tajam di perdagangan metal
 > Jan-Maret dan hasil transaksi 3 Months ini akan dideliver April-Juni dan
 > dilaporkan di H1 2008.
 >
 > Sekali lagi saya hanya ingin menyampaikan, jadi mohon tidak diartikan
 > sebagai ajakan apapun. Ga enak kl salah n dimarahin banyak orang. Member OB
 > galak2 sih :-)
 >
 > Pizz
 >
 >
 >
 > Sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 >
 > $30.000 / Ton ...Wow...gurih nian :-)
 >
 >  --- tin berland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 >  > The base metal complex was indicated slightly higher
 >  > during London Metal Exchange premarket trade on
 >  > Wednesday, mostly on the back of a weaker dollar, a
 >  > trader with an LME ring dealer said. "Yesterday we
 >  > saw very small volumes, and today we are seeing a
 >  > similar thing. The market is probably up a little on
 >  > the weaker dollar," he said. The trader noted that
 >  > bellwether contract copper was stuck at
 >  > $8,350-8,650/mt in the short term, but if it climbed
 >  > higher and broke through $8,830/mt, a significant
 >  > resistance level, it was likely to trigger some
 >  > panic buying activity -- "people are still friendly
 >  > toward it". Copper was bid at $8,500/mt at 0855 GMT
 >  > up $70 from its previous floor trade close on
 >  > Tuesday. Tin was also higher on Wednesday morning,
 >  > gaining $200 to $21,200/mt. "Tin has been
 >  > fundamentally strong for a while now, there are
 >  > problems with concentrate supply, so the market
 >  > looks tight," the trader said, adding that the tin
 >  > industry would not be surprised to see it at
 >  > $30,000/mt.
 
 
   

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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Harga Timah bisa mencapai USD 30.000/ ton di tengah ketatnya pasokan dari Indonesia

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Memang ada dua kontradiksi.

Pendukung bull: Harga timah bisa dikendalikan oleh kuota eksprot Indon.
Pendukung bear: Akan ada yg PT/sell untuk cover loss SM or butuh fresh money.

Kira2 dari dua di atas, mana yg tarikannya lebih kencang ya?

kangduren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: keknya TINS 
masih bisa lanjut nariknya (mudah2an ga salah)
 :)
 
 salam
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"  wrote:
 >
 > Saya juga melihat bahwa, meskiipun harga timah nanjak terus, TINS
 > dalam waktu dekat akan turun. Bukan nakut2in. Cuma FA (feeling
 > analysis) gw mbisiki gitu. Namanya juga feeling pemula, tentu
 > kemungkinan salahnya besar :D... AKA ... Disc.
 > 
 > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Andi Wahyudi
 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > >
 > > Bukan bermaksud menymapaikan bull atau bear
 > > Per 1 APril ada yg kejar TINS..Mungkin ini ada hubungannya dengan 
 harga
 > > timah. Harga timah 3 Months-delivery naik tajam di perdagangan 
 metal
 > > Jan-Maret dan hasil transaksi 3 Months ini akan dideliver April-
 Juni dan
 > > dilaporkan di H1 2008.
 > >
 > > Sekali lagi saya hanya ingin menyampaikan, jadi mohon tidak 
 diartikan
 > > sebagai ajakan apapun. Ga enak kl salah n dimarahin banyak orang. 
 Member OB
 > > galak2 sih :-)
 > >
 > > Pizz
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > > Sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > > $30.000 / Ton ...Wow...gurih nian :-)
 > >
 > >  --- tin berland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 > >
 > >  > The base metal complex was indicated slightly higher
 > >  > during London Metal Exchange premarket trade on
 > >  > Wednesday, mostly on the back of a weaker dollar, a
 > >  > trader with an LME ring dealer said. "Yesterday we
 > >  > saw very small volumes, and today we are seeing a
 > >  > similar thing. The market is probably up a little on
 > >  > the weaker dollar," he said. The trader noted that
 > >  > bellwether contract copper was stuck at
 > >  > $8,350-8,650/mt in the short term, but if it climbed
 > >  > higher and broke through $8,830/mt, a significant
 > >  > resistance level, it was likely to trigger some
 > >  > panic buying activity -- "people are still friendly
 > >  > toward it". Copper was bid at $8,500/mt at 0855 GMT
 > >  > up $70 from its previous floor trade close on
 > >  > Tuesday. Tin was also higher on Wednesday morning,
 > >  > gaining $200 to $21,200/mt. "Tin has been
 > >  > fundamentally strong for a while now, there are
 > >  > problems with concentrate supply, so the market
 > >  > looks tight," the trader said, adding that the tin
 > >  > industry would not be surprised to see it at
 > >  > $30,000/mt.
 >
 
 
 
   

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[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Harga Timah bisa mencapai USD 30.000/ ton di tengah ketatnya pasokan dari Indonesia

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik kangduren
keknya TINS masih bisa lanjut nariknya (mudah2an ga salah)
:)

salam

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, "abdulrahim abdulrahim"  wrote:
>
> Saya juga melihat bahwa, meskiipun harga timah nanjak terus, TINS
> dalam waktu dekat akan turun. Bukan nakut2in. Cuma FA (feeling
> analysis) gw mbisiki gitu. Namanya juga feeling pemula, tentu
> kemungkinan salahnya besar :D... AKA ... Disc.
> 
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Andi Wahyudi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Bukan bermaksud menymapaikan bull atau bear
> > Per 1 APril ada yg kejar TINS..Mungkin ini ada hubungannya dengan 
harga
> > timah. Harga timah 3 Months-delivery naik tajam di perdagangan 
metal
> > Jan-Maret dan hasil transaksi 3 Months ini akan dideliver April-
Juni dan
> > dilaporkan di H1 2008.
> >
> > Sekali lagi saya hanya ingin menyampaikan, jadi mohon tidak 
diartikan
> > sebagai ajakan apapun. Ga enak kl salah n dimarahin banyak orang. 
Member OB
> > galak2 sih :-)
> >
> > Pizz
> >
> >
> >
> > Sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > $30.000 / Ton ...Wow...gurih nian :-)
> >
> >  --- tin berland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  > The base metal complex was indicated slightly higher
> >  > during London Metal Exchange premarket trade on
> >  > Wednesday, mostly on the back of a weaker dollar, a
> >  > trader with an LME ring dealer said. "Yesterday we
> >  > saw very small volumes, and today we are seeing a
> >  > similar thing. The market is probably up a little on
> >  > the weaker dollar," he said. The trader noted that
> >  > bellwether contract copper was stuck at
> >  > $8,350-8,650/mt in the short term, but if it climbed
> >  > higher and broke through $8,830/mt, a significant
> >  > resistance level, it was likely to trigger some
> >  > panic buying activity -- "people are still friendly
> >  > toward it". Copper was bid at $8,500/mt at 0855 GMT
> >  > up $70 from its previous floor trade close on
> >  > Tuesday. Tin was also higher on Wednesday morning,
> >  > gaining $200 to $21,200/mt. "Tin has been
> >  > fundamentally strong for a while now, there are
> >  > problems with concentrate supply, so the market
> >  > looks tight," the trader said, adding that the tin
> >  > industry would not be surprised to see it at
> >  > $30,000/mt.
>




Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Harga Timah bisa mencapai USD 30.000/ ton di tengah ketatnya pasokan dari Indonesia

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik abdulrahim abdulrahim
Saya juga melihat bahwa, meskiipun harga timah nanjak terus, TINS
dalam waktu dekat akan turun. Bukan nakut2in. Cuma FA (feeling
analysis) gw mbisiki gitu. Namanya juga feeling pemula, tentu
kemungkinan salahnya besar :D... AKA ... Disc.

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Andi Wahyudi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Bukan bermaksud menymapaikan bull atau bear
> Per 1 APril ada yg kejar TINS..Mungkin ini ada hubungannya dengan harga
> timah. Harga timah 3 Months-delivery naik tajam di perdagangan metal
> Jan-Maret dan hasil transaksi 3 Months ini akan dideliver April-Juni dan
> dilaporkan di H1 2008.
>
> Sekali lagi saya hanya ingin menyampaikan, jadi mohon tidak diartikan
> sebagai ajakan apapun. Ga enak kl salah n dimarahin banyak orang. Member OB
> galak2 sih :-)
>
> Pizz
>
>
>
> Sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> $30.000 / Ton ...Wow...gurih nian :-)
>
>  --- tin berland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > The base metal complex was indicated slightly higher
>  > during London Metal Exchange premarket trade on
>  > Wednesday, mostly on the back of a weaker dollar, a
>  > trader with an LME ring dealer said. "Yesterday we
>  > saw very small volumes, and today we are seeing a
>  > similar thing. The market is probably up a little on
>  > the weaker dollar," he said. The trader noted that
>  > bellwether contract copper was stuck at
>  > $8,350-8,650/mt in the short term, but if it climbed
>  > higher and broke through $8,830/mt, a significant
>  > resistance level, it was likely to trigger some
>  > panic buying activity -- "people are still friendly
>  > toward it". Copper was bid at $8,500/mt at 0855 GMT
>  > up $70 from its previous floor trade close on
>  > Tuesday. Tin was also higher on Wednesday morning,
>  > gaining $200 to $21,200/mt. "Tin has been
>  > fundamentally strong for a while now, there are
>  > problems with concentrate supply, so the market
>  > looks tight," the trader said, adding that the tin
>  > industry would not be surprised to see it at
>  > $30,000/mt.


[obrolan-bandar] Re: [saham] Harga Timah bisa mencapai USD 30.000/ ton di tengah ketatnya pasokan dari Indonesia

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Andi Wahyudi
Bukan bermaksud menymapaikan bull atau bear
Per 1 APril ada yg kejar TINS..Mungkin ini ada hubungannya dengan harga timah. 
Harga timah 3 Months-delivery naik tajam di perdagangan metal Jan-Maret dan 
hasil transaksi 3 Months ini akan dideliver April-Juni dan dilaporkan di H1 
2008.

Sekali lagi saya hanya ingin menyampaikan, jadi mohon tidak diartikan sebagai 
ajakan apapun. Ga enak kl salah n dimarahin banyak orang. Member OB galak2 sih 
:-)

Pizz

Sutomo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: $30.000 / Ton 
...Wow...gurih nian :-)
 
 --- tin berland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
 > The base metal complex was indicated slightly higher
 > during London Metal Exchange premarket trade on
 > Wednesday, mostly on the back of a weaker dollar, a
 > trader with an LME ring dealer said. "Yesterday we
 > saw very small volumes, and today we are seeing a
 > similar thing. The market is probably up a little on
 > the weaker dollar," he said. The trader noted that
 > bellwether contract copper was stuck at
 > $8,350-8,650/mt in the short term, but if it climbed
 > higher and broke through $8,830/mt, a significant
 > resistance level, it was likely to trigger some
 > panic buying activity -- "people are still friendly
 > toward it". Copper was bid at $8,500/mt at 0855 GMT
 > up $70 from its previous floor trade close on
 > Tuesday. Tin was also higher on Wednesday morning,
 > gaining $200 to $21,200/mt. "Tin has been
 > fundamentally strong for a while now, there are
 > problems with concentrate supply, so the market
 > looks tight," the trader said, adding that the tin
 > industry would not be surprised to see it at
 >  $30,000/mt. 
 > 
 > 
 >
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