confused ebayer

[bcroe]

I use diesel filters, which are 4 inches tall.  Put an extra low 
Toro base under it, a diesel lid on top, and it fits my cars.  

Bruce Roe

7 Nov 2006  "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The second way is to find another air filter element that is an inch or

> two 
> taller than the stock element, which will place the air cleaner top 
> above 
> the base. Filtering is still fine, but more air is available than 
> through 
> the air cleaner snorkel.
> 
> Milton Schick

stud pattern

[neil r stoker]

i am looking for the stud pattern and offset for my 
69 delta 88 royale bit hard to buy wheels for them over here no one knows 
anything about them
NEIL R STOKER1969 OLDSMOBILEDELTA 88 
ROYALE

Re: Fw: MO91008 Response to your email from eBay Motors CW. (KMM234323922V31225L0KM)

[mark mullins]

On Tuesday 07 November 2006 19:03, Infinite Space Systems, Inc. wrote:

> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Question for item #200043160627 - 1967 OLDSMOBILE: 442!! 5VY
> >
> >> YOU ARE A REAL FUCK STICK!! I WILL FIND YOU!!


Just from personally knowing Milton, this amuses the hell out of me...  Life 
can be SO SHORT when you're ignorant.

M

-- 
Mark Mullins
USMC (ret.)
Tucson, AZ

Fw: Question for item #200043160627 - 1967 OLDSMOBILE: 442!! 5VY

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

More good thoughts from 442cash, real name is apparently Christian Cash. 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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To: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: Question for item #200043160627 - 1967 OLDSMOBILE: 442!! 5VY


> Ever been hacked into? Ever had ID theft happen to you? You will!!
>
> -- Original message -- 
> From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Christian,
>>
>> Bring it on. I don't give a damn.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From:
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Question for item #200043160627 - 1967 OLDSMOBILE: 442!! 5VY
>>
>>
>> > YOU ARE A REAL FUCK STICK!! I WILL FIND YOU!!
>> > -- Original message -- 
>> > From: "eBay Member: infinitespacesystems"
>> > eBay sent this message to Christian?Cash?(442cash).
>> > Your registered name is included to show this message originated from
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>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ?Question from infinitespacesystems
>> > infinitespacesystems( 3)
>> > Positive feedback:100%
>> > Member since:Apr-16-06
>> > Location:AZ, United States
>> > Registered on:www.motors.ebay.com
>> >
>> >
>> > Item: 1967 OLDSMOBILE: 442!! 5VY (200043160627)
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > According to the FBI, body tags are also prohibited to sell along with 
>> > VIN
>> > tags. Often, the 2 tags have related numbers. A body tag can be used to
>> > commit a car selling fraud across state lines, which is Federal
>> > jurisdiction. That's why. Also, I see the you have this stated on your
>> > auction site:
>> > Q: Hello, Your listing states Correct Documents. Do you have the VIN, 
>> > Data
>> > Plate and Title that all match each other? Thanks, Bill
>> > Nov-02-06
>> > A: Yes! This is maybe the only way to identify the 1967 442 cars.This 
>> > is
>> > what you want if you are cloning or just want an original. Thank you 
>> > for
>> > the question.
>> > That would indicate you also have the VIN and title available for sale. 
>> > I
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FW: [73-77olds] O/T Interesting MICKEY THOMPSON story

[77w30]

 

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Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [73-77olds] O/T Interesting MICKEY THOMPSON story

 Man, I was in my early 20's when this happened. I remember A few friends of
mine grabbed all the mickey T stuff they could get thier hands on thinking
it might be worth money someday. (Remember the old "M/T" valve covers? Stuff
like that.).Either way GREED and SHADY BUSINESS PARTNERS took a
legendary race car driver and great contributor to the automotive hobby from
us.
When the hobby goes from fun, relaxing and profitable,  to greed and murder,
it's no longer a hobby anymore. Lets hope this never happens again. Anyway,
.and it looks like justice may finally come. Here's the story
 
 
PASADENA, Calif. (Nov. 7) - Legendary racer Mickey Thompson and his wife
were gunned down nearly 19 years ago in a hit ordered by an embittered
former business partner, a prosecutor told the jury Monday in a dramatic
opening statement.
 
 


Talk About It: Post Thoughts  
 

Revenge for expensive legal defeats motivated Michael Goodwin to arrange the
killings, said prosecutor Alan Jackson, who showed jurors enlarged
photographs from Thompson's celebrated career and of the couple lying in
blood in their driveway.  
The March 16, 1988, killings were engineered so Thompson, 59, would see his
wife, Trudy, die before he was shot in the head, the prosecutor said.  
"Over and over, the mantra he repeated was the same: 'Please don't hurt my
wife,"' Jackson said, quoting neighbors who heard the couple's cries.  
Goodwin, 61, is charged with two counts of murder with special circumstances
and faces life in prison if convicted.  
Public defender Elena Saris countered in her opening statement that there is
no forensic evidence, no murder weapon, no proof of a payout to anyone.  
"This is the story of a botched investigation and a Hollywood series of
events based on false assumptions," Saris said.  
Thompson competed in numerous auto sports and was the first person to travel
more than 400 mph on land. He was inducted posthumously into the Motorsports
Hall of Fame of America.  
Goodwin's prosecution came about after years of pressure by Thompson's
sister, Collene Campbell.  
Jackson told the jury that Thompson, who was known for staging Motocross
races, went into business at age 55 with Goodwin, who was involved with
Supercross, the intense motorcycle races typically staged on stadium dirt
courses featuring dramatic jumps.  
 
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Murder  
 

"The evidence in this case will show that from day one Michael Goodwin had
bad intentions," Jackson said,"outlining a completely circumstanticl case.  
The prosecutor said Goodwin was once overheard "saying he was going to screw
over Mickey Thompson. But he underestimated Mickey Thompson."  
Jackson said Thompson wasn't highly educated but was brilliant.  
"He was a Rhodes scholar in the school of hard knocks. He wasn't going to
get screwed over," Jackson said.  
Before long, Thompson realized he was being cheated and sued his new
partner, Jackson said. Goodwin was ordered to repay more than $793,000 after
a judge found that he had stolen more than $500,000, the prosecutor said.  
Further lawsuits over the next two years forced Goodwin to declare
bankruptcy, Jackson said.  
"Michael Goodwin was suffering a pattern of losing he could not tolerate,"
the prosecutor said.  
Jackson said a witness will tell how Goodwin once declared: "Before he sees
a dime I'll have him wasted."  
Three witnesses testified that they heard Goodwin make threatening remarks
about Thompson just weeks or months before the couple was gunned down.  
One, former police Cmdr. Bill Wilson, testified that he had introduced the
two men. He said he knew there were problems between them but was stunned
when Goodwin told him: "Thompson is killing me. He's destroying me. He's
taking everything I've got. I'm gonna take him out."  
Wilson said he replied, "Nobody wins that one. Mickey's dead and you're in
prison." When the conversation ended, he said, Goodwin told him he was
joking.  
Goodwin hired two men to go to the Thompsons' house in the gated Los Angeles
suburb of Bradbury, which he had scoped out beforehand, to shoot them and
escape on bicycles, Jackson alleged.  
Saris acknowledged harsh words were spoken between Goodwin and Thompson, but
said "folklore was generated by the media," leading witnesses to come
forward with 

Re: EVIL # 200043409118

[ggregory77]

Turn him in, if was a true seller he would not have voiced himself in such a true Neanderthal behavior.  


 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:40 AM
Subject: Fw: EVIL # 200043409118





List,

Second message I just sent to seller. We'll see if he is still foul mouthed:

According to the FBI, body tags are also prohibited to sell along with VIN 
tags. Often, the 2 tags have related numbers. A body tag can be used to 
commit a car selling fraud across state lines, which is Federal 
jurisdiction. That's why. Also, I see the you have this stated on your 
auction site:
Q: Hello, Your listing states Correct Documents. Do you have the VIN, Data 
Plate and Title that all match each other? Thanks, Bill
 Nov-02-06
  A: Yes! This is maybe the only way to identify the 1967 442 cars.This is 
what you want if you are cloning or just want an original. Thank you for the 
question.
That would indicate you also have the VIN and title available for sale. I 
respectfully suggest that you not sell that body tag, nor the VIN and title.
__

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:32 AM
Subject: Fw: EVIL # 200043409118


> List,
>
> The message I just sent to eBay:
>
> Item number: 200043160627
> First off, I need to tell you that my cousin is a FBI agent, and he's into 
> cars.
> Last night, I sent this message to the seller: I hope you are not trying 
> to sell that body tag. It is a Federal Felony to do so. You had best check 
> with the FBI first.
>
> According to my cousin, body tags are also prohibited to sell along with 
> VIN tags. Often, the 2 tags have related numbers. A body tag can be used 
> to commit a car selling fraud over state lines, which is Federal 
> jurisdiction. That's why. Also, I see the seller has this stated on his 
> auction site:
> Q: Hello, Your listing states Correct Documents. Do you have the VIN, Data 
> Plate and Title that all match each other? Thanks, Bill
> Nov-02-06
>  A: Yes! This is maybe the only way to identify the 1967 442 cars.This is 
> what you want if you are cloning or just want an original. Thank you for 
> the question.
>
> This morning, I received this message from the seller: GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! 
> HOW DOES THAT SOUND? BODY TAGS CAN BE SOLD!! VINS CAN NOT. SO LIKE I SAID 
> GO FUCK YOURSELF!! GET A GLUE. COME BACK WHEN YOU HAVE MORE FEEDBACK, 3 
> WON'T CUT IT. YOU ARIZONA MEXICAN FUCK
>
> Do you wish to handle this situation, or would you prefer for me to call 
> my cousin at the Tucson FBI Office. Please let me know.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Milton Schick
> infinitespacesystems
> _
>
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:11 AM
> Subject: Fw: EVIL # 200043409118
>
>
>> List,
>>
>> The pleasant response from this sellerr. He just got turned in to eBay 
>> security and the FBI.
>>
>> Milton Schick
>> 1964 442 Cutlass
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! HOW DOES THAT SOUND? BODY TAGS CAN BE SOLD!! VINS CAN 
>> NOT. SO LIKE I SAID GO FUCK YOURSELF!! GET A GLUE. COME BACK WHEN YOU 
>> HAVE MORE FEEDBACK, 3 WON'T CUT IT. YOU ARIZONA MEXICAN FUCK
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 11:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: EVIL # 200043409118
>>
>>
>>> Kerry,
>>>
>>> The seller cannot sell that body tag. It's a Federal Felony to do so, 
>>> period. Yes, people try to skirt around the law and do some things that 
>>> aren't legal. They just weren't caught, yet.
>>>
>>> Ask the List about the sting that was pulled a year ago on a seller on 
>>> eBay who was trying to sell a 442 body tag and VIN plate. He was busted 
>>> by the FBI.
>>>
>>> Milton Schick
>>> 1964 442 Cutlass
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Kerry Doyle" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:12 PM
>>> Subject: EVIL # 200043409118
>>>
>>>
 Was looking at the 442 stuff on evil and saw this
 auction.  It takes all kinds of folks to make a world
 but is it just nuts to cut up a body like this or am I
 missing something here??  Isn't this worth more as a
 buildable body with 5VY tag?
 #200043409118  Quarter
 #200043406486  Quarter
 #200043160627  Body Plate





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>
> 

Re: confused ebayer

[spddemun]

--- "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Karen,
> 
> >> Some people do that to get more airflow.
> >>
> >> Milton Schick
> >
> > Wouldn't that allow dust and dirt unnecessarily
> into
> > carb?  Karen
> 
> 
> The trick is to either cut a piece of rubber hose
> and butt the ends together 
> and place it on top of the air filter. Then with a
> longer center carb stud, 
> attach the air cleaner top, which is now spaced
> upward an inch or so. The 
> second way is to find another air filter element
> that is an inch or two 
> taller than the stock element, which will place the
> air cleaner top above 
> the base. Filtering is still fine, but more air is
> available than through 
> the air cleaner snorkel.
> 
> Milton Schick
> 1964 442 Cutlass
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
Thanks, Milton.  Learn something new every day!  Karen





 

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Re: EVIL # 200043409118

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

Wrong. Just because GM doesn't have cross numbers between cowl tags and VIN 
tags, that doesn't mean that ***every*** auto manufacturer does it that way. 
There is a reason for what I've been told by the FBI. If you can prove that 
information was incorrect, please do so. A switched cowl tag, notice that I 
said switched - not reproduced - those are 2 different things, can be used 
to facilitate the sale of a wrecking yard rebuilt vehicle for a genuine used 
vehicle. It can also be used to build "chop-shop" rebuilt vehicles to hide 
their origin as being stolen. That's why the FBI is interested in 
***anyone*** selling a cowl tag. If an investigation leads to other 
discoveries, the individual would be busted. In this case, 442cash admitted 
he had the VIN tag and the title "available." I think that just might 
establish intent.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: EVIL # 200043409118


> There is no law against selling a cowl tag. It does not contain ANY vin 
> info.
> It IS against the law to remove and sell a VIN tag. You can have NEW cowl
> tags made. You CANNOT have new VIN tags made.
>





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Re: confused ebayer

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

Randy,

> It's not my car and I don't know the seller, but I think nit picking Ebay 
> auctions has gone overboard when you start picking apart average cars and 
> questioning the integrity of sellers (he is not a newbie and has 100% 
> feedback) that aren't trying to pass off a Cutlass as a real 442 or an 
> obvious '70 as a '69.


Except that 442cash has 67 positive feedbacks with a total feedback score of 
100%. He was the guy for eBay 200043160627
and still has 200043409118 up with 10 other auctions. He was the guy who 
wanted to sell the '67 442 body tag and hinted that he also had the VIN tag 
and title for sale, for a total of $700.00. He is unusually mad at me right 
now, and I could care less. I just don't like someone bastardizing our Olds 
hobby.

I have found with other types of internet auctions the feedback system can 
be more political than based in reality.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Re: confused ebayer

[ggregory77]

I overlooked that one good looking, Milton. 


 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: oldsmobile@chebucto.ns.ca
Sent: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: confused ebayer





I just noticed another problem with this seller. I don't think eBay will 
allow him to do this little trick;

"Seller's payment instructions
BY CREDIT CARD, OR WIRE TRANSFER WITHIN 12 HOURS OF AUCTION CLOSE. MUST BE 
WIRE TRANSFERRED BEFORE ITEM CAN BE SHIPPED."

O, can we spell fraud and scam?

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: confused ebayer


> This was on ebay search, check out the q&a at the bottom, as this guy 
> blast him for not describing this car correctly. item # 180047114756






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Re: confused ebayer

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

Randy,

You don't need a firesuit. Your criticism is valid. That's why I stayed with 
engine questions. I missed the intake point and the wall. I simply didn't 
see it. But I did ask for the head I.D., for that would clear up everything.

There is one final item. The seller did have an inappropriate payment method 
listed at the bottom of the ad. EBay themselves state to never do a wire 
transfer.

Seller's payment instructions
BY CREDIT CARD, OR WIRE TRANSFER WITHIN 12 HOURS OF AUCTION CLOSE. MUST BE 
WIRE TRANSFERRED BEFORE ITEM CAN BE SHIPPED.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: confused ebayer


>> > This was on ebay search, check out the q&a at the bottom, as this guy
>> > blast him for not describing this car correctly. item # 180047114756
>
> [And finally I have NO idea where that Original Grill came from???
> I'm REALLY confused??]
>
> I don't expect this reply to go over too well, but I have to say it. The 
> first thing that went through my head when I read the questions was "This 
> guy is a total @ss, what an idiot". I also think the seller answered 
> rather respectfully considering the "tone" in which the questions were 
> written. The questioner comes off to me as a loud mouthed know it all that 
> buries himself the more he spouts off.
>
> If he's questioning the year of the car by what rear bumper is on 
> itwell, duh. Anyone into '70-'72 Cutlass'/442's know that the front 
> and rear bumpers can be interchanged...not correct, but functional. VIn 
> tells you it's a '72 Supreme that had a 350 originally. Front grille...uh, 
> it's a blacked out '72 Supreme grille...just like the '72 Hurst/Olds. 
> Radio...obviously not there, so don't expect it to come with the car.
>
> If he wanted to come across as a sincere possible bidder with questions, 
> he should have asked for the casting numbers on the block and heads. 
> Paint...you can paint anything any color you want...it has no meaning in 
> the grand scheme of things.
>
> Anyone looking at the auction can tell it's not a show car and not put 
> back together 100%. Missing a/c ductwork underdash, brake pedal pad, wrong 
> color radiator top plate (oops, that's just paint), missing wiring going 
> to wiper/washer motor, open breather grommets, ashtray door missinghow 
> many more things can you pick out?
>
> It's not my car and I don't know the seller, but I think nit picking Ebay 
> auctions has gone overboard when you start picking apart average cars and 
> questioning the integrity of sellers (he is not a newbie and has 100% 
> feedback) that aren't trying to pass off a Cutlass as a real 442 or an 
> obvious '70 as a '69.
>
> Doning my fire suit,
> Randy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> 1:40 PM
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Re: Your photos

[Joe Vahabzadeh]

At 07:29 PM 11/7/06 -0500, Chris wrote:

>and here's the photo that captures YOU, Sin-dy:
>http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/Rocket_Science_442/b49c5cb1.jpg
>

I have to admit that I certainly wasn't expecting that one.  Fortunately I
wasn't drinking anything at the time, else my monitor would've gotten an
impromptu shower.

- Joe Vahabzadeh

Re: your photos

[Bill G]

Christopher Witt wrote
>here you go:

>here's a real VIN tag
>note the real factory rivets sealed with body sealer
>I bet yours does not quite look like that.

Where's the Link ?

Bill G

Re: confused ebayer

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

Karen,

>> Some people do that to get more airflow.
>>
>> Milton Schick
>
> Wouldn't that allow dust and dirt unnecessarily into
> carb?  Karen


The trick is to either cut a piece of rubber hose and butt the ends together 
and place it on top of the air filter. Then with a longer center carb stud, 
attach the air cleaner top, which is now spaced upward an inch or so. The 
second way is to find another air filter element that is an inch or two 
taller than the stock element, which will place the air cleaner top above 
the base. Filtering is still fine, but more air is available than through 
the air cleaner snorkel.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Fw: MO91008 Response to your email from eBay Motors CW. (KMM234323922V31225L0KM)

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

Olds List,

Response from the seller of the '67 442 body tag. I guess by his response we 
can figure out just what type of person he is. I would recommend never 
dealing with this individual. I noticed that eBay pulled his ad for the body 
tag, but didn't hurt any of his other ads.


- Original Message - 
From: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "eBay Customer Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: MO91008 Response to your email from eBay Motors CW. 
(KMM234323922V31225L0KM)


> eBay Customer Support,
>
> Maybe you might want to suspend the eBay account of this seller, 
> permanently. The following E-mail was received from the seller. This guy 
> has something wrong with him.
> __
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Question for item #200043160627 - 1967 OLDSMOBILE: 442!! 5VY
>
>
>> YOU ARE A REAL FUCK STICK!! I WILL FIND YOU!!
>> -- Original message -- 
>> From: "eBay Member: infinitespacesystems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> eBay sent this message to Christian?Cash?(442cash).
>> Your registered name is included to show this message originated from 
>> eBay. Learn more.
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>> Item: 1967 OLDSMOBILE: 442!! 5VY (200043160627)
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>> Q: Hello, Your listing states Correct Documents. Do you have the VIN, 
>> Data Plate and Title that all match each other? Thanks, Bill
>> Nov-02-06
>> A: Yes! This is maybe the only way to identify the 1967 442 cars.This is 
>> what you want if you are cloning or just want an original. Thank you for 
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "eBay Customer Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:28 PM
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>> I've reviewed the information you provi

Your photos

[Christopher Witt]

Finally found the perfect photo for you.

regarding your phone message of today:
I cannot answer the phone 8am to 5pm.
"F#$% you," indeed
is that what passes for manners in your neck of the woods?

I grew up in Lansing living and breathing Oldsmobiles.
I know all there is to know about them
there is no such thing as an "end of the year 1969 with 1970 body panels"

That's called a model year change.
then they put 1970 VIN's on them.

here you go:

here's a real VIN tag
note the real factory rivets sealed with body sealer
I bet yours does not quite look like that.

This is what a 1969 Cutlass looks like- note the tailite diffs and EVERY 
BODY PANEL DIFFERS.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/Rocket_Science_442/6171_69-Cs_A12-LR.jpg

and here's the photo that captures YOU, Sin-dy:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b172/Rocket_Science_442/b49c5cb1.jpg

:-)
---
Chris Witt
*the* Rocket Scientist
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Re: EVIL # 200043409118

[W451973]

There is no law against selling a cowl tag. It does not contain ANY vin info. It IS against the law to remove and sell a VIN tag. You can have NEW cowl tags made. You CANNOT have new VIN tags made. 

Re: EVIL # 200043409118

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

Kerry,

The seller cannot sell that body tag. It's a Federal Felony to do so, 
period. Yes, people try to skirt around the law and do some things that 
aren't legal. They just weren't caught, yet.

Ask the List about the sting that was pulled a year ago on a seller on eBay 
who was trying to sell a 442 body tag and VIN plate. He was busted by the 
FBI.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



- Original Message - 
From: "Kerry Doyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:12 PM
Subject: EVIL # 200043409118


> Was looking at the 442 stuff on evil and saw this
> auction.  It takes all kinds of folks to make a world
> but is it just nuts to cut up a body like this or am I
> missing something here??  Isn't this worth more as a
> buildable body with 5VY tag?
> #200043409118  Quarter
> #200043406486  Quarter
> #200043160627  Body Plate
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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> 5:30 PM
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> 

Old Scout

[Kerry Doyle]

This is a really OLD Oldsmobile.

http://www.futurliner.com/scout.htm

Re: Fwd: RE: TK91014 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety Department. (KMM233503467V56636L0KM)

[Kerry Doyle]

If I am looking at the same auction I emailed this
guy. He has not cut the car up yet as it sounds from
him.  His reasoning is he just needs money and will
sell it as a rolling Chassy or any and all individual
parts.  I think its to nice a shell and Chassy to cut
up but OH WELL its his not mine.
Kerry

--- John Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I agree with the horrible job of scam-policing.
> 
> There is a guy, on ebay right now, selling 5 442
> items: 3 badges, a cowl 
> plate, and a vin plate, allowing someone to fully
> clone a 67 442.
> 
> This is both illegal, and really, really stupid.
> Other than the 442 trim 
> code on the cowl (5V), I think, neither the cowl,
> nor vin, say anything 
> about it being a 442! The vin says Cutlass Supreme
> Holiday 
> Coupe/Post/Convertable and that's it.
> 
> Some 442s apparently did not even come with that
> cowl code either. It's 
> really a waste of time to do that...he should have
> done a 68-71 instead.
> 
> -John.
> 

Re: confused ebayer

[rocket455]

> > This was on ebay search, check out the q&a at the bottom, as this guy 
> > blast him for not describing this car correctly. item # 180047114756 

[And finally I have NO idea where that Original Grill came from???
I'm REALLY confused??]

I don't expect this reply to go over too well, but I have to say it. The first 
thing that went through my head when I read the questions was "This guy is a 
total @ss, what an idiot". I also think the seller answered rather respectfully 
considering the "tone" in which the questions were written. The questioner 
comes off to me as a loud mouthed know it all that buries himself the more he 
spouts off.

If he's questioning the year of the car by what rear bumper is on itwell, 
duh. Anyone into '70-'72 Cutlass'/442's know that the front and rear bumpers 
can be interchanged...not correct, but functional. VIn tells you it's a '72 
Supreme that had a 350 originally. Front grille...uh, it's a blacked out '72 
Supreme grille...just like the '72 Hurst/Olds. Radio...obviously not there, so 
don't expect it to come with the car.

If he wanted to come across as a sincere possible bidder with questions, he 
should have asked for the casting numbers on the block and heads. Paint...you 
can paint anything any color you want...it has no meaning in the grand scheme 
of things.

Anyone looking at the auction can tell it's not a show car and not put back 
together 100%. Missing a/c ductwork underdash, brake pedal pad, wrong color 
radiator top plate (oops, that's just paint), missing wiring going to 
wiper/washer motor, open breather grommets, ashtray door missinghow many 
more things can you pick out?

It's not my car and I don't know the seller, but I think nit picking Ebay 
auctions has gone overboard when you start picking apart average cars and 
questioning the integrity of sellers (he is not a newbie and has 100% feedback) 
that aren't trying to pass off a Cutlass as a real 442 or an obvious '70 as a 
'69.

Doning my fire suit,
Randy





 

Re: confused ebayer

[W451973]

Actually, according to the vin, it is a 72 Cutlass Supreme with a 350 4 barrel and single exhaust. And it IS a bigblock. That`s a performer 455 intake and it has the small `wall' that sticks up, on the pad, behind the water pump and in front of the intake. Blow up the pics and look closer. One of the many joys of selling on ebay. Too many people who don`t know what their looking at or talking about but are so quick to critisize.I`de say it`s a pretty nice car. 
 
Dennis

Re: thoughts on fuel economy

[Kerry Doyle]

Thanks Jim
Very interesting.
Kerry

--- "Zito, James A (GE Infra, Energy)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From Kerry:
> Nuke power plants produce more energy than they
> consume?? Right??
> Wrong nuclear plants work based on the equation 
> E=MC^2  they are consuming mass to generate power. 
> Since C the speed of light is such a large value
> only a VERY VERY small amount of matter is actually
> used in the process.  

Re: radio application?

[Zito, James A \(GE Infra, Energy\)]

>From John Lee:
I have a couple and, when I send them off to be fixed, the dude is going 
to move the transistor and its heatsink from the driver's side of the 
radio, and the transformer from the right, and relocate them onto the 
back of the unit, thus enabling it to fit into a A-body's dash (at least 
a 67 A-body.)
---
And where pray tell are you sending them to have this done??

Thanks
Jim
69 442 conv..still in pieces

NMG - was Re: OT: thoughts on fuel economy

[Joe Vahabzadeh]

At 01:27 PM 11/6/06 -0600, Duane wrote:
>  Heh, they look like something out of a Dr. Seuss book.
>
>http://www.hightechscience.org/myers_motors_nmg1.htm
>

I find it hilarious that you mention that it looks like something from Dr.
Seuss, that the link is labeled "Myers Motors" and that Mike Myers played
"The Cat In The Hat"

- Joe "but I'm easily amused" Vahabzadeh

Re: confused ebayer

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

I just noticed another problem with this seller. I don't think eBay will 
allow him to do this little trick;

"Seller's payment instructions
BY CREDIT CARD, OR WIRE TRANSFER WITHIN 12 HOURS OF AUCTION CLOSE. MUST BE 
WIRE TRANSFERRED BEFORE ITEM CAN BE SHIPPED."

O, can we spell fraud and scam?

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:52 PM
Subject: confused ebayer


> This was on ebay search, check out the q&a at the bottom, as this guy 
> blast him for not describing this car correctly. item # 180047114756

seeks 71-2 decklid TRIMS

[Christopher Witt]

I'm looking for the 3 pcs stainless strip that goes on the bottom of the 
trunk lid of a 71/72 Cutlass/442.  No dents please.


Thanks

Bob Griffin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
==
no got here

try the free WANTED ad on 442.com?

WANTED:
1968-9 2 groove Water Pump PULLEY "KA-401462" stamp . NOT the common PS Pump 
Pulley. Must have 4 bolt holes + center hole for water pump use.

---
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*the* Rocket Scientist
1303 W. Miller Rd.
Lansing MI 48911

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Re: OT: thoughts on fuel economy

[Duane Parks]

There's a picture of that very car about 1/4 of the way down that page!  I had to laugh out loud when I saw it...Duane72 Cutlass ConvertibleOn 11/6/06, 
Joe Vahabzadeh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 01:27 PM 11/6/06 -0600, Duane wrote:>  Heh, they look like something out of a Dr. Seuss book.>>http://www.hightechscience.org/myers_motors_nmg1.htm
Also, now that I'm on the whole Mike Myers reference . . I have to admitthat, if you add an upright tail to it, it looks just like the carGoldmember was driving!- Joe Vahabzadeh

Re: confused ebayer

[steven pignataro]

the air still has to flow throught the air filter, the
lid is sealed to the top of the air filter.




 

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Re: Fwd: RE: TK91014 Your recent email to eBay's Trust and Safety Department. (KMM233503467V56636L0KM)

[steven pignataro]

Of course all the paper work is there,  He had the
question asked so it would appear in the ad. This
would give the appearence that there is no impropriety
on his behalf yet tell the world what the true
intentions of the sale and high price is
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Re: thoughts on fuel economy

[Infinite Space Systems, Inc.]

Kerry,

> OK Milton I agree with most of what you have said here
> but
> Nuke power plants produce more energy than they
> consume?? Right??


No. The Law of Conservation of Energy applies everywhere in our universe. 
The power produced by a nuclear power plant is covered by Einstein's famous 
equation: E=MC2. All the energy comes from the breaking of particle bonds in 
the nucleus of each atom. That is a tremendous amount of energy release. The 
energy equation still balances inside a nuclear reactor, energy in equals 
energy out. The difference in nuclear power reactors is that some designs 
are much more efficient than older designs. The U.S. is saddled with old 
style nuclear reactors. The Europeans, the British, and the Japanese are 3-4 
generations ahead of us in the types of nuclear reactors they use. Their 
electrical power generation from the output of their nuclear reactors is 
much more efficient than the power we get.


> So the energy is contained in the
> atomic structure and is converted to another form in
> the reactor?


No, not in the reactor, outside the reactor. The energy from the reactor is 
used to heat water, or liquid cessium, or another working fliud, which 
carries the heat to water, creating a superheated steam to run turbine 
electrical power generators.


> Can't the H2O's energy be converted to a more usable
> form and be used to produce work.  Its still there and
> conserved according to the laws of physics.  at the
> end there would be what, less H2O??


That's not the real problem. First, it takes a certain amount of energy to 
separate the H2 and the O2 from the water. Then, the H2 and the O2 is burned 
together to make power and do work. The question is, how much energy was 
necessary to produce a sufficient quantity of H2 and O2 to be able to burn 
it together and make the required power. So far, even with this guy's 
improved electrolyis method, it's not economical, at least on a smal scale, 
and ramp up to large scale has posed some problems that haven't been 
overcome.

There's also one other small problem with using H2 that I've been simply 
amazed that no one has been talking about. H2 at low pressure burns with a 
clear flame in daylight. That's right, one can't see it. Even a high 
pressure H2 jet is mostly invisible. Take a look at the space shuttle main 
engines burning. The color in the flame cone is almost non-existant. Just 
thing\k of a small low pressure leak at a H2 refueling station for a H2 
fueled car. Somehow it ignites. No one can see the flame. A motorist who is 
refueling their car walks into it and catches their pants leg on fire. I've 
used H2. We used it in our NASA funded Scram-Jet experiments to keep the 
flame lit in the combustion stage at high Mach numbers to stop flame-out. 
The safety precautions for using H2 as a fuel are extensive, because one 
can't see the flame burning in daylight.


> NASA has had hydrogen generators and motors for years
> right?  I wonder how they work verses this guys low
> voltage water fracture machine?


I don't know how they compare, except the items at NASA that burn liquid H2 
are rocket engines. I do have a small problem with the term "fracture." The 
bond in the electron shell of a H2O molecule must be broken to separate H2 
from O2. I'm just not sure I'm comfortable with describing it as fracture. 
That seems to say that energy is released, yet he claims there is no 
increase in water temperature. I'd really like to sit down and talk to the 
inventor.

BTW, would you like to know how the NERVA and ROVER nuclear rocket engines 
worked in the late '50s and early '60s, the engines that would have put us 
on Mars in 1975 and were killed by LBJ? Basically, one just injected water 
straight through a ultra high temperature nuclear reactor. The intense heat 
ripped the H2O molecules apart, creating a high pressure stream of H2 and O2 
gas, which was the initial propulsion source. Then the H2 and O2 were 
reignited at the rear of the exhaust nozzle, like an afterburner of sorts. 
An engine the size of a VW could produce the same thrust as the entire space 
shuttle.

Water, in the form of ice, is available throughout our solar system. I have 
at home, sitting on my shelf, the scale model we built of our autotonomous 
robotic nuclear powered water miner we proposed to NASA while I was at the 
University of Arizona. The spacecraft used onboard water to power her 
nuclear rocket engine, based after the NERVA and ROVER concepts. Upon 
landing at a promising site on an icy asteroid, a superheated steam drill, 
powered by superheated steam from the reactor, drilled through the crust, 
the steam melted the ice, the water was sucked up into the water storage 
tank, when the tank was full, the spacecraft tookoff back to her homebase, 
using a small portion of the water she just harvested to get there through 
her nuclear rocket engine.

Milton Schick
1964 442 Cutlass
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

dave brown

[neil r stoker]

does anyone have daves email addy most i am sure 
would know or know of him 
NEIL R STOKER1969 OLDSMOBILEDELTA 88 
ROYALE

Re: thoughts on fuel economy

[spddemun]

I'm waiting for "Mr. Fusion" (Back To The Future) that
runs off our garbage!  Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> He was building a car.  Put water in, Hydrogen and
> Oxygen 
> somewhere inside, water comes out the end.  I don't 
> believe that, might just as well redirect the water
> back 
> to the source tank for perpetual motion.  
> 
> Patents are available to the public.  If this stuff
> is so good, 
> how come nobody else in the world is trying these
> ideas?
> 
>  Bruce Roe
> 
> 5 Nov 06 1 "SoCal67Olds"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > This subject hits a nerve with me...
> >
>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-992194168790800&q=water+car
> > This is not a hoax. It is fact.
> >  
> 
> 




 

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Re: confused ebayer

[spddemun]

--- "Infinite Space Systems, Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Karen,
> > Why is the air filter sticking out/not screwed
> down?
> > Is that normal?
> 
> Some people do that to get more airflow.
> 
> Milton Schick

Wouldn't that allow dust and dirt unnecessarily into
carb?  Karen



 
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