date:20120321


Hi,

excuse my top posting.

It is not yet clarified how or if we can ensure the translation from non 
committers. You should have noticed that we at Apache take some things 
more serious than others.


The easiest way is to get access to the language you want to translate 
is to become a committer. Maybe we find another solution but why not 
becoming a committer?


The first step is to sign a iCLA 
(http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt) and send it back to Apache.


If you can work with offline tools feel free to contact me or Raphael 
and we will help to provide a set of po files. The translated po files 
can you attach to an issue and can notify the issue on the mailing list. 
After that it shouldn't be a big deal to propose you as committer for 
the future.


Important is that we have some identity check and that you ensure that 
your contribution is your own. I personally don't have any problems with 
an iCLA that often is mentioned as a problem.


Juergen



On 3/21/12 5:26 AM, Maho NAKATA wrote:

Hmmm

We need a description about how to participate.
is it possible?
thanks
  Nakata Maho

From: Yue Helenhelenyu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [TRANSLATION] First part is now at pootle
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:36:04 +0800


I can also contribute...

The UI seems quite straightforward! while it's totally new to me, is there
any guide for people like me?

Helen

2012/3/21 Jing Baijingbaibe...@gmail.com


Same questions here. How could we register in the Apache Translate Pootle
service tool. Any way for us to register. We would like to contribute some
Chinese translation for the rest of the 1429 new/changed string in 3.4

Best regards
Betsy

2012/3/21 Risto Jääskeläinenrjaas...@saunalahti.fi


Raphael Bircher [r.birc...@gmx.ch] kirjoitti:


Hi at all

You can find the languages wich have aktive support at the moment on
Pootle

https://translate.apache.org/**projects/OOo_34/

https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/


You can imediatly start with the rest of the translation.

Greetings Raphael
--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/



Thank You very much!

I find that
1) I am not registered in
2) There is no link for registration
3) I can make quite permanent translation by Lähetä (Send?) button
4) If I use Ehdota (Suggest?) button it is made by nobody.

Number 3 is quite insecure I think?
I like to register myself in Pootle system.

Regards
Risto

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

2012-03-21 Thread Maho NAKATA

Hi Rob,

This issue is very important, as OpenOffice is an international
project. Still, we cannot write e-mails to exchange opinions..

Following are issues must be fixed soon.
 https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52195
 https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52182

Best,
 Nakata Maho

From: Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:11:56 +0900

 Hi infrastructure team and all,
 
 Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
 https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
 
 We would like to start with the translation.
 
 To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
 contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
 mailing list must be fixed.
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
 
 We need your help soon.
 
 Thanks,
 khirano
 
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Apache infrastructure team,

 Any news on this?

 Thanks,
 khirano

 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Daniel,

 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name 
 wrote:
 The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
 silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.

 This is a good news!  Thanks.
 khirano
 --
 khir...@apache.org
 Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openoffice-linux32-nightly

Sorry, I did not see that LWP/UserAgent.pm was not a required Perl 
module anymore on [1], on [2] it was still present.  I have fixed that.


I would have fixed this myself, but I do not have access to the build 
servers.


Regards,
Andre

[1] 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows


[2] 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Windows_with_MinGW



On 21.03.2012 07:10, Herbert Duerr wrote:

Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC (@INC contains:


Andre's new script solenv/bin/download_missing_extensions.pl adds a
dependency to the Perl LWP:UserAgent module.


Any ideas?


Running cpan -i LWP:UserAgent should suffice.

Hope that helps,
Herbert

Re: time to create ooo-qa mailing list? Re: AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012.03.19(2012.03.13 - 2012.03.19)

2012-03-21 Thread Shenfeng Liu

Lily's report is also on our wiki.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+QA+Status+Report
In fact that is the format I prefer: keep important information in wiki. So
that you can just ignore the related discussion mails, and check wiki for
the status when you want.


2012/3/21 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Maho NAKATA m...@apache.org wrote:
  Hi Lily and all
 
  Now time to create a new ML, ooo-qa?
  It's very hard to track such info, as you see, traffic of this mailing
 list
  is very large amount.
 

 I agree, traffic is heavy.  Another solution is to create an ooo-rob list
 ;-)

 But seriously, I think our largest separable topic is the discussions
 on Pootle and translation process and ongoing discussion of
 translating pages on the website.  If we made an ooo-l10n list, this
 would get a good amount of traffic.

 For example today (March 20th) we had 16 posts on such topics.  This
 is a good thing, and there is some overlapping interest, but I think
 we scare off some potential contributors if we force them to subscribe
 to a list with 60 messages/day.  Of course, those who are interested
 in everything are free to subscribe to multiple lists.

 -Rob

  Thanks
   Nakata Maho
 
  From: xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com
  Subject: AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012.03.19(2012.03.13 -
 2012.03.19)
  Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:38:53 +0800
 
  Hi all,
 
  *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status:
  *Based on the test plan:
  https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan,
 I can
  say that the planned work are 100% done.
  100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas
 most
  impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance.
  100% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests.
 
  *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/2/29 (2012/3/1 - 2012/3/12):
  *Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev.
  r1299571
 http://people.apache.org/%7Eorw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1296433/win32OOo_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US_de_fr_it_es_ja_pt-BR_zh-CN_zh-TW_nl_hu_fi_ru.exehttp://people.apache.org/~orw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1296433/win32OOo_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US_de_fr_it_es_ja_pt-BR_zh-CN_zh-TW_nl_hu_fi_ru.exe
 
  Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Mac Lionn, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1,
  Windows 7 SP1
  Test Cases Executed:
  IP Clearance: libneon replacement issue tracking
  General testing:
  Math formula
  Some Base functions
  *Interoperability automaiton testing:*
  Tested total 1188 files with following file types:
 
 (odt)|(ott)|(sxw)|(stw)|(doc)|(dot)|(ods)|(ots)|(sxc)|(stc)|(xls)|(xlt)|(odp)|(otp)|(sxi)|(sti)|(ppt)|(pot)
 
  The test scenarios cover:
 
 - Load
 - Save
 - Reopen
 
  Only one issue was found, it takes too long time (at least 4 minutes) to
  open one sample excel file and UI is blocked when loading.
 OpenOffice.org
  3.3 has the same problem.  It's very quick using MS Office. Bug i119091
 was
  raised for it. I checked the bugzilla, seems it is one known issue.
 
  *Defects Summary*:
  So far 360 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0. If we
 count
  the defects from 1th Aug. of last year, it means the about date we call
  AOO 3.4, the total defects number is 271.
  Among the 360 defects, 51 critical defects raised and 17 ones remain
  opening now.
  One great news is currently we only have 3 reamining release blockers
 and
  two of them need be discussed:
D
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_idquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker
 
  Sev▲
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_severity%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker
 
  Pri▲
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=priority%20DESC%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker
 
  OS

Re: update service - proposal for temporary solution until AOO 3.4 is released.

2012-03-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 21.03.2012 00:33, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.netwrote:

On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
arie...@apache.orgwrote:

Hi Kay,

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:42:22PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:

Well interesting...I did some editing of versionrc and now I get that

update does not exist after pulling off the pkgfmt=rpm requirement.
However, we can not expect users of existing product to go messing

with

their existing setups (i.e. editing files). I don't mind the odd

message

was getting before about an rpm package not being found.

I'm just wondering if there's some way to configure the snippet you

sent

just do something a bit more friendly for all possible situations that

are

currently out there now.

Thoughts? Any experts on how to create a generic null feed?

I tried with my original empty xml file (not a feed) and it works as
expected with every combination:

UpdateURL=
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

UpdateURL=

http://people.apache.org/~arielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm

UpdateURL=

http://people.apache.org/~arielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=deb

UpdateURL=

http://people.apache.org/~arielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=dmg

I can't see why it does not work for you.
Please try pointing the UpdateURL to this file
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Well, foo, when I do this replacement, it does work as you say! Darn!

OK,

let me re-investigate why the other snippet with my internal host

redirect

isn't working quite right! :(

How are doing this redirect?

Regards,
Dave

I've got the following in my local /etc/hosts

140.211.11.131 update36.services.openoffice.org

here are versions I've played with in versionrc (I split the lines for
easier reading for you)

+
[Version]
AllLanguages=en-US
buildid=330m20(Build:9567)
ExtensionUpdateURL=
http://updateexte.services.openoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
OOOBaseVersion=3.3
ProductBuildid=9567
ProductMajor=330
ProductMinor=20
ProductSource=OOO330
UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_3_en-US

#UpdateURL=
http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm

UpdateURL=
http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

#UpdateURL=
http://people.apache.org/~arielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm

UpdateUserAgent=PRODUCT (${buildid}; ${_OS}; ${_ARCH};
BundledLanguages=${AllLanguages})
++

using Ariel's returns no update. Using the current one with the redirect
returns the error business. (i mean it connects but I get a different
message, a failed...)

Things of note vis a vis people.apache.org vs www.openoffice.org (where I
have the current re-route)

If you just bring up:

http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

http://people.apache.org/~arielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

they look different in my browser...one has UTF-8 vs utf-8

so I'm curious about this. I did up a little cgi and ran it on both
people.apache.org and well, ooo-site-staging.apache.org and they both
produce the same environment info. So ???

http://people.apache.org/~kschenk/cgi-bin/env.cgi
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/cgi-bin/env.cgi

I will change the UTF-8 to utf-8 on www.openoffice.org and see what
happens. Also did a diff on them and nothing but the case business.

Meanwhile -- do you know how we get cgi to run on www.openoffice.org? I
see we have a directory for this. I dumped some test scripts in it, but
www.openoffice.org/cgi-bin/h.cgi (Hello World) preoduces nothing. :(

If not, I will get in touch with INFRA.

a final note on this...if I directly put

UpdateURL=http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm

in my versionrc file, it works per Ariel's comments -- 'No Update
Available.

However, my redirect via /etc/hosts causes the weird result. So maybe
something is not quite right with this (???)

It looks like your local 'redirection' does not work.

You can check your 'redirection' in your browser.

On my system (Windows 7) I observe the following:
- browsing to www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update using FireFox
shows me the XML snippet.

- a ping to www.openoffice.org reveals IP address 140.211.11.131.
- browsing to 140.211.11.131/ProductUpdateService/check.Update using FireFox
return 404 Not Found.

- browsing to 140.211.11.311 using FireFox shows ASF main page.
- adapting my ...\etc\hosts file as you have done and browsing to

Re: [TRANSLATION] First part is now at pootle


On 3/20/12 11:33 PM, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote:

Raphael Bircher [r.birc...@gmx.ch] kirjoitti:

Hi at all

You can find the languages wich have aktive support at the moment on
Pootle

https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/

You can imediatly start with the rest of the translation.

Greetings Raphael
--
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/





The UI part of pt-BR is 100% complete, please ignore it. Raphael hasn't 
updated this to the latest version that I have already integrated in the 
sources. Thanks again to Claudio Filho.


Juergen



Thank You very much!

I find that
1) I am not registered in
2) There is no link for registration
3) I can make quite permanent translation by Lähetä (Send?) button
4) If I use Ehdota (Suggest?) button it is made by nobody.

Number 3 is quite insecure I think?
I like to register myself in Pootle system.

Regards
Risto

Re: Rat scan vs SGA


On 20.03.2012 21:44, Andrew Rist wrote:



On 3/20/2012 8:18 AM, Andre Fischer wrote:

Hi all,

I compared the output of the Rat scan (section Unapproved Licenses:)
with the SGA and here is the result:

http://people.apache.org/~af/ratscan-sga.zip

There are 4575 files in the Rat scan that have unapproved licenses and
which need our attention. Only 138 of these are not in the SGA.

Thanks for looking at this Andre.
I have been looking at this, and my first couple of attempts at running
my ALv2 header scripts on them were not so successful, as the problem is
a bit more complex than replacing headers. It is difficult to determine
if the current files need a header, and this makes the process harder.

* some files are empty (no header needed)
* some files are very short with no 'creative content' (no header
needed) - but what is short? 1 line - 2 lines - 10 lines. (I'm not
sure)
* short file with creative content (need header but the header is
longer than the content) - this is not so good... there is an
option of a shortened ALv2 header which I think is needed here


I do not see a technical problem with the license header being longer 
than the other content.  It is just not aesthetically pleasing, 
something that we will have to live with.



* file types that do not allow a header or comments (may need header
but we have no way to do it - I think there are some files in this
group, but I don't have a specific list)


What file types are you thinking of?


* binary files such as .jpeg, .png, .odX that should have a header
inside, but are more complex in terms of adding a header (more
difficult than my current perl script)


Is a license header in image files really necessary?  Can the Rat tool 
handle this?


As to .odX (you mean .odt, .odp, .odc,... right?):  We could put the 
license header into description.xml: Extract the .description.xml from 
the .odX, add the license header like you do for any other xml file, and 
put it back into the .odX.




* binary files (mostly odt) that may not need a header (as the header
would get seeded into a users work, changing the license of their work)

This set is more difficult.


I am willing (an probably able) to help with the above.  Just tell me 
what to do.


-Andre



I am intending to take another run at this in the next day or two (I've
been promising Juergen this for a week or so).
My first attempt will be to add headers to groups of files (I do this by
file type to get the comment syntax right), changing only files with at
least minimum number of lines. This should result in the list being
culled down to a number closer to 1000.
I'll also collect up a list of short or empty files and add them to the
excludes list.


A.



Regards,
Andre

Re: update service - proposal for temporary solution until AOO 3.4 is released.

2012-03-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi,

On 21.03.2012 09:48, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote:

[snip...]


a final note on this...if I directly put

UpdateURL=http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm


in my versionrc file, it works per Ariel's comments -- 'No Update
Available.

However, my redirect via /etc/hosts causes the weird result. So maybe
something is not quite right with this (???)




It looks like your local 'redirection' does not work.

You can check your 'redirection' in your browser.

On my system (Windows 7) I observe the following:
- browsing to www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update using FireFox
shows me the XML snippet.
- a ping to www.openoffice.org reveals IP address 140.211.11.131.
- browsing to 140.211.11.131/ProductUpdateService/check.Update using FireFox
return 404 Not Found.
- browsing to 140.211.11.311 using FireFox shows ASF main page.
- adapting my ...\etc\hosts file as you have done and browsing to
update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update using FireFox
results in a connection time stating the standard message which is headed by
The connection was reset - the same you got when you browse to a non-existing
server
- reverting the change to my ...\etc\hosts and performing a ping to
update36.services.openoffice.org outputs the following:
output
$ ping update36.services.openoffice.org

Pinging sd-web2.staroffice.de [192.18.197.109] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.18.197.109:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),
/output




BTW, the used HTTP/WebDAV client library and its integration into our UCB is 
able to handle HTTP redirects which are typically triggered by return HTTP 
status code 301 - HTTP status codes 302, 303 and 307 are also handled.


Best regards, Oliver.

Re: [TRANSLATION] First part is now at pootle

2012-03-21 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 21.03.12 10:04, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
 On 3/20/12 11:33 PM, Risto Jääskeläinen wrote:
 Raphael Bircher [r.birc...@gmx.ch] kirjoitti:
 Hi at all

 You can find the languages wich have aktive support at the moment on
 Pootle

 https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/

 You can imediatly start with the rest of the translation.
An additional information. The file basic/source/app.po seems to be the
VCL TestTool. You have not to translate this po.

-- 
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: Rat scan vs SGA

2012-03-21 Thread Armin Le Grand


On 20.03.2012 22:11, Andrew Rist wrote:

I'll update the rat excludes with this info.
(skipping over all of the ?? - adding all of the OKs)
A.


Thanks Andrew. Please also add

?? mysqlc\source\mysqlc_propertyids.hxx No info, but should be same as 
mysqlc_propertyids.cxx
?? mysqlc\source\mysqlc_statement.hxx No info, but should be same as 
mysqlc_statement.cxx


which are pretty clear. I will continue and send you updates. Thanks for 
your help!


Thus the resulting list which I will continue to look at is:

Files in RatScan but not in SGA

Agenda:
1st column: OK or ?? or // (comment) for the following entries
2nd column: filename
3rd column: Comment in 

?? acinclude.m4 GPL?
?? config.guess FSF GPL?
?? config.sub FSF GPL?

?? connectivity\qa\complex\connectivity\hsqldb\TestCacheSize.java HSQL 
Development Group, seems free usable


?? extensions\source\activex\example.html Does not exist in trunk

?? hwpfilter\source\ksc5601.h FSF, looks free

?? libtextcat\data\new_fingerprints\fpdb.conf No information, 
originally from http://odur.let.rug.nl/~vannoord/TextCat/, adapted by 
Jocelyn MERAND


// Not in grant yet, but all from (C) SUN 2008, should be added to grant
?? mysqlc\source\mysqlc_propertyids.hxx No info, but should be same as 
mysqlc_propertyids.cxx
?? mysqlc\source\mysqlc_statement.hxx No info, but should be same as 
mysqlc_statement.cxx


?? mythes\mythes-1.2.0-makefile-mk.diff WordNet Release 2.0 external 
library, free license, text looks like MIT


// files are under MPL1.1 (category B)
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\LEGAL
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\jri.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\jri_md.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\jritypes.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npapi.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npunix.c
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npupp.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npwin.cpp

// jsc wanted to check these
odk\configure.pl
odk\docs\install.html
odk\docs\notsupported.html
odk\docs\tools.html
odk\examples\DevelopersGuide\examples.html
odk\examples\examples.html
odk\index.html

// no license information at all, looks like a self-written script to 
use inkscape as tool

// from the command line to convert SVG to PNG. Probably from SUN/Oracle
?? ooo_custom_images\industrial\res\commandimagelist\frobnicate-icons.php

// reportbuilder is (C) by Oracle, needs to be cleared if it's part of 
the sga
?? 
reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\layoutprocessor\OfficeGroupInstanceSectionLayoutController.java
?? 
reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\layoutprocessor\OfficePageSectionLayoutController.java
?? 
reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\model\OfficeGroupInstanceSection.java

?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-datastyle.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-draw.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-form.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-style.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-table.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-text.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\parser\style-mapping.txt
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\smil.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\star-office.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\star-report.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\star-rpt.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\svg.css
?? reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\xsl-fo.css
?? reportbuilder\license\THIRDPARTYREADMELICENSE.html
?? reportbuilder\license\readme_en-US.html
?? reportbuilder\license\readme_en-US.txt
?? reportbuilder\prj\rpt.xml
?? reportbuilder\template\manifest.xml
?? reportbuilder\template\post.xml
?? reportbuilder\template\pre.xml
?? reportbuilder\util\component.txt
?? reportbuilder\util\description.xml
?? reportbuilder\util\manifest.xml

// no license info, jsc
?? solenv\bin\srcrelease.xml

// originally from XConsortium, mkdepend.man contains license info 
(permission)

// and looks like MIT1.1
?? soltools\mkdepend\collectdircontent.cxx
?? soltools\mkdepend\collectdircontent.hxx
?? soltools\mkdepend\cppsetup.c
?? soltools\mkdepend\def.h
?? soltools\mkdepend\ifparser.c
?? soltools\mkdepend\ifparser.h
?? soltools\mkdepend\imakemdep.h
?? soltools\mkdepend\include.c
?? soltools\mkdepend\main.c
?? soltools\mkdepend\mkdepend.man
?? soltools\mkdepend\parse.c
?? soltools\mkdepend\pr.c

// No license info, filtername lists probably written by testing, thus 
probably SUN/Oracle
?? 
testautomation\framework\optional\input\filternames\Oracle_Open_Office_Filternames_add_en-US.txt
?? 
testautomation\framework\optional\input\filternames\Oracle_Open_Office_Filternames_en-US.txt


// No license info, test scripting lists probably written by testing, 
thus probably SUN/Oracle
?? 
testautomation\framework\optional\input\help_browser\Oracle_Open_Office_help_applications_en-US.txt
?? 
testautomation\framework\optional\input\help_browser\Oracle_Open_Office_help_content_en-US.txt
??

Re: Rat scan vs SGA


Here is an update, 103 files still not in the SGA.

I am currently looking at the files in the main/ directory in the hope 
to find a way to remove the autoconf files from the repository 
(acinclude.m4, config.guess, config.sub)


And now the 103 files (all below main/):

acinclude.m4
config.guess
config.sub
connectivity/com/sun/star/sdbcx/comp/hsqldb/StorageNativeOutputStream.java
connectivity/qa/complex/connectivity/hsqldb/TestCacheSize.java
hwpfilter/source/ksc5601.h
libtextcat/data/new_fingerprints/fpdb.conf
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_connection.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_connection.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_databasemetadata.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_databasemetadata.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_driver.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_driver.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_general.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_general.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_preparedstatement.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_preparedstatement.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_propertyids.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_propertyids.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_resultset.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_resultset.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_resultsetmetadata.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_resultsetmetadata.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_services.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_statement.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_statement.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_subcomponent.hxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_types.cxx
mysqlc/source/mysqlc_types.hxx
mythes/mythes-1.2.0-makefile-mk.diff
np_sdk/mozsrc/LEGAL
np_sdk/mozsrc/jri.h
np_sdk/mozsrc/jri_md.h
np_sdk/mozsrc/jritypes.h
np_sdk/mozsrc/npapi.h
np_sdk/mozsrc/npunix.c
np_sdk/mozsrc/npupp.h
np_sdk/mozsrc/npwin.cpp
ooo_custom_images/industrial/res/commandimagelist/frobnicate-icons.php
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/layoutprocessor/OfficeGroupInstanceSectionLayoutController.java
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/layoutprocessor/OfficePageSectionLayoutController.java
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/model/OfficeGroupInstanceSection.java
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/oasis-datastyle.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/oasis-draw.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/oasis-form.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/oasis-style.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/oasis-table.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/oasis-text.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/parser/style-mapping.txt
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/smil.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/star-office.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/star-report.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/star-rpt.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/svg.css
reportbuilder/java/com/sun/star/report/pentaho/xsl-fo.css
reportbuilder/license/THIRDPARTYREADMELICENSE.html
reportbuilder/license/readme_en-US.html
reportbuilder/license/readme_en-US.txt
reportbuilder/prj/rpt.xml
reportbuilder/template/manifest.xml
reportbuilder/template/post.xml
reportbuilder/template/pre.xml
reportbuilder/util/component.txt
reportbuilder/util/description.xml
reportbuilder/util/manifest.xml
soltools/mkdepend/collectdircontent.cxx
soltools/mkdepend/collectdircontent.hxx
soltools/mkdepend/cppsetup.c
soltools/mkdepend/def.h
soltools/mkdepend/ifparser.c
soltools/mkdepend/ifparser.h
soltools/mkdepend/imakemdep.h
soltools/mkdepend/include.c
soltools/mkdepend/main.c
soltools/mkdepend/mkdepend.man
soltools/mkdepend/parse.c
soltools/mkdepend/pr.c
testautomation/framework/optional/input/filternames/Oracle_Open_Office_Filternames_add_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/filternames/Oracle_Open_Office_Filternames_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/help_browser/Oracle_Open_Office_help_applications_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/help_browser/Oracle_Open_Office_help_content_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/help_browser/Oracle_Open_Office_help_topics_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/help_browser/Oracle_Open_Office_search_headings_and_whole_words_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/help_browser/Oracle_Open_Office_search_headings_only_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/help_browser/Oracle_Open_Office_search_whole_words_only_en-US.txt
testautomation/framework/optional/input/help_browser/Oracle_Open_Office_search_without_filter_en-US.txt
twain/inc/twain.h
ucb/source/ucp/odma/odma.h
unixODBC/inc/iodbcunix.h
unixODBC/inc/sql.h
unixODBC/inc/sqlext.h
unixODBC/inc/sqltypes.h
unixODBC/inc/sqlucode.h
vcl/inc/os2/wingdi.h
vcl/inc/os2/xwphook.h
vcl/unx/generic/fontmanager/parseAFM.cxx
vcl/unx/generic/fontmanager/parseAFM.hxx
writerperfect/source/wpdimp/wpft_genericfilter.cxx
x11_extensions/inc/Xrender.h
x11_extensions/inc/randr.h
x11_extensions/inc/randrproto.h
x11_extensions/inc/render.h
x11_extensions/inc/renderproto.h

Regards,
 Andre

[BUILD][RELEASE]: propose a further snapshot to verify the latest fixes


Hi,

I thought we would be ready to start building a RC but I think we should 
take the upcoming problems serious. And we should work on the RAT 
cleanup first.


For that reason I would like to propose that we prepare a further 
developer snapshot based on revision 1303343 (Last Changed Rev: 
1303221). This build should be used to verify the fixes.


We should concentrate on 1 full build for en-US and language packs at a 
minimum. If there is capacity to build/upload more full builds it will 
be fine.


Let us focus on the remaining work we have to do.

119100 	extensions-installed dictionaries spell checking does not work 
- under investigation


119097 	remove xwphook and its usage - already addressed and Yuri will 
fix it when he has access


119098 	check/adapt license header based on RAT output and SGA - 
addressed and we are working on it


- update LICENSE and NOTICE file - help is appreciated

- prepare download page for the source releases, something like 
http://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/downloads.html


- clarify how we want handle the binary downloads - I will start a new 
thread to discuss this


- anything else?


Juergen

Re: Apache list archive issues must be fixed soon

2012-03-21 Thread Tony Stevenson



Sent from my iPad

On 21 Mar 2012, at 01:11, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi infrastructure team and all,
 
 Thank you, Raphael Bircher, for updating Pootle.
 https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/
 
 We would like to start with the translation.
 
 To coordinate the translation work with Japanese users and Japanese
 contributors in Japanese language, the archive of our native language
 mailing list must be fixed.
 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-general-ja/
 
 We need your help soon.

Actually we need your help. We have limited cycles and time to focus on this.  
If you think you could patch this please feel free to submit a patch for 
modmbox and we can try it. 

 
 Thanks,
 khirano
 
 On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Apache infrastructure team,
 
 Any news on this?
 
 Thanks,
 khirano
 
 On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Kazunari Hirano khir...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Daniel,
 
 On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name 
 wrote:
 The upgrade was attempted, reverted due to causing
 silent breakage, and is on the queue for being re-attempted.
 
 This is a good news!  Thanks.
 khirano
 --
 khir...@apache.org
 Apache OpenOffice (incubating)
 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/

Re: Rat scan vs SGA


Update regarding the autoconf files in main/:

If you are interested in a list of the files in main/ then please have a 
look at [1].


In main/ you will find the files

acinclude.m4
aclocal.m4
config.guess
config.sub
install-sh

which are used in the autoconf process.


The files aclocal.m4, config.guess, config.sub, install-sh do not have 
AOO specific content.  They are copies of generic files that we have 
included into SVN just for convenience.  I am currently looking into how 
they can be re-created on the fly.  However, they do not seem to pose a 
legal problem:


install-sh seems to have a MIT license

aclocal.m4, config.guess, config.sub are all copyrighted by the FSF 
and are under GPL but their headers include this paragraph:


# As a special exception to the GNU General Public License, if you
# distribute this file as part of a program that contains a
# configuration script generated by Autoconf, you may include it under
# the same distribution terms that you use for the rest of that program.



The only file that looks like a potential legal problem is acinclude.m4.
It contains some OpenOffice specific macros (and thus can not be 
re-created on the fly) and contains this in its header:


dnl @author Caolan McNamara cao...@skynet.ie
dnl @author Daniel Richard G. sk...@iskunk.org
dnl @version 2006-05-01
dnl @license LGPL


Any comments regarding the legal status of these files?

-Andre

[1] 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Build_Bootstrapping#Files_in_main.2F

Re: Rat scan vs SGA

2012-03-21 Thread Herbert Duerr


The only file that looks like a potential legal problem is acinclude.m4.
It contains some OpenOffice specific macros (and thus can not be
re-created on the fly) and contains [...]


It contains the check whether getspnam_r used in sal/osl/unx/security 
requires five parameters. Since we are not interested in supporting 
ancient platforms I suggest to get rid of that check altogether and use 
the newer (but still many year old) shadow API conventions.


The remaining code in that file comes from Stephan's commit
  2008/02/04 10:40:30 sb 1.2.248.1: #i84200# introduced 
PKG_CHECK_MODULES_MACHACK to use system-provided specific bins instead 
of (MacPorts provided) pkg-check for libxml2/libxslt


If his Mac specific hack was only needed for respecting the 
configuration options --with-system-libxml2 and --with-system-libxslt 
then this could be handled more directly.


Herbert

Re: Rat scan vs SGA

2012-03-21 Thread Armin Le Grand


Hi all,
Statusupdate for the 103 files still not in the SGA:

Agenda:
// : Comments as usual
1st column:
OK Can be added to the rat excludes
?? Not cleared
GR Should be added to the grant (SGA)
RM not used, can me removed from trunk
2nd column: filename


// hdu taking a look currently
?? acinclude.m4

// GPL, but special entry there (see af's mail) :
//# As a special exception to the GNU General Public License, if you
//# distribute this file as part of a program that contains a
//# configuration script generated by Autoconf, you may include it under
//# the same distribution terms that you use for the rest of that program.
// thus can be kept and should be added to rat excludes
OK config.guess
OK config.sub

// Header contains license identical to BSD without advertising - 
should be added to rat excludes

OK connectivity\qa\complex\connectivity\hsqldb\TestCacheSize.java

// FSF, contains MIT equal license - should be added to rat excludes
OK hwpfilter\source\ksc5601.h

// Author oj 2004 - was a SUN employee- SUN, should be added to grant
GR 
connectivity\com\sun\star\sdbcx\comp\hsqldb\StorageNativeOutputStream.java


// No information, originally from 
http://odur.let.rug.nl/~vannoord/TextCat/, adapted by Jocelyn MERAND

// delivered in libtextcat\prj\d.lst
// used in instsetoo_native, lingucomponent, scp2 (DEFAULT_CONF_FILE_NAME)
?? libtextcat\data\new_fingerprints\fpdb.conf

// Not in grant yet, but all from (C) SUN 2008, should be added to grant
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_connection.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_connection.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_databasemetadata.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_databasemetadata.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_driver.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_driver.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_general.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_general.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_preparedstatement.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_preparedstatement.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_propertyids.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_propertyids.hxx No info, but should be same as 
mysqlc_propertyids.cxx

GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_resultset.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_resultset.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_resultsetmetadata.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_resultsetmetadata.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_services.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_statement.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_statement.hxx No info, but should be same as 
mysqlc_statement.cxx

GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_subcomponent.hxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_types.cxx
GR mysqlc\source\mysqlc_types.hxx

// the diff itself is a SUN file under LGPL and SISSL, should be added 
to grant

GR mythes\mythes-1.2.0-makefile-mk.diff

// files are under MPL1.1 (category B)
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\LEGAL
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\jri.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\jri_md.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\jritypes.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npapi.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npunix.c
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npupp.h
?? np_sdk\mozsrc\npwin.cpp

// no license information at all, looks like a self-written script to 
use inkscape as tool

// from the command line to convert SVG to PNG. Probably from SUN/Oracle
// no reference found with grep, can be removed. Checking...
?? ooo_custom_images\industrial\res\commandimagelist\frobnicate-icons.php

// reportbuilder is (C) by Oracle, needs to be cleared if it's part of 
the sga. I see

// no reason that it is not, should be added to grant
GR 
reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\layoutprocessor\OfficeGroupInstanceSectionLayoutController.java
GR 
reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\layoutprocessor\OfficePageSectionLayoutController.java
GR 
reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\model\OfficeGroupInstanceSection.java

GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-datastyle.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-draw.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-form.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-style.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-table.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\oasis-text.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\parser\style-mapping.txt
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\smil.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\star-office.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\star-report.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\star-rpt.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\svg.css
GR reportbuilder\java\com\sun\star\report\pentaho\xsl-fo.css
GR reportbuilder\license\THIRDPARTYREADMELICENSE.html
GR reportbuilder\license\readme_en-US.html
GR reportbuilder\license\readme_en-US.txt
GR reportbuilder\prj\rpt.xml
GR reportbuilder\template\manifest.xml
GR reportbuilder\template\post.xml
GR reportbuilder\template\pre.xml
GR reportbuilder\util\component.txt
GR reportbuilder\util\description.xml
GR reportbuilder\util\manifest.xml

// originally from XConsortium, mkdepend.man contains license info

Re: Apache OpenOffice Extensions/Templates Sites: State of the art

2012-03-21 Thread Yue Helen

Just tried to download one template...very nice!

2012/3/21 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net
 wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Here is a quick recap of what we at SourceForge have been doing over
  the last weeks to help the Apache Open Office community and what we
  plan to do in the near future.
 
  - Full analysis of the configurations and setup of the Extensions and
  Templates sites, to better understand existing and potential future
  issues;
 
  - Maintenance and updates to he Drupal modules of the two sites; (this
  included the update of the Drupal 5 platform to work with PHP 5.3)
 
  - Analysis of the performance issues of the sites replacing the caching
 systems;
 
  - Transparent Redirects to the SourceForge mirror for uploads' and
  downloads' operations to enabling a faster download and reducing
  significantly the load on the Drupal servers;
 
  - Rewriting all parts of the sites depending on
  extensions/templates.services.openoffice.org URLs;
  (the actual extensions/templates.openoffice.org can be relocated at
  any other URL the community might like);
 
  - Allowing users to login both with the openoffice.org accounts and
  with local accounts;
  (in order to manage smoothly the shutdown of Oracle infrastructure);
 
  - Automatic conversion of openoffice.org users' accounts to local
 accounts;
  (all users who actually logged in before Oracle shutdown were hence
  migrated seamless)
 
  - Creation of new accounts directly as local accounts and not as an
  account at openoffice.org;
 
  - Managing the transition of active users to the new system by direct
  mailing them prior to the receipt of  users' accounts; (we needed to
  do that in order to avoid the risk of having active users out of the
  system for some days)
 
  What's next:
 
  1 - We plan to Migrats all users right away, providing them also with
  some interesting info (e.g. extensions/templates recently created,
  statistics, etc)
 
  2 - Help market AOO Extensions and Templates, e.g. interviewing
  creators and sharing the news via our media. Our community growth
  hacker and Apache member Rich Bowen will be happy to help with that.
 
  I wish also to take the chance here to thanks Ross Gardler, who
  mentored us through the collaboration process, Rob Weir for his inputs
  and support, and Gavin McDonald and the whole Infra team, who provided
  us with all necessary information, often getting help in turn from
  Andrew Rist (who was also supportive and helpful).
 
  I think it's also appropriate to give credit to our SiteOp team,
  especially Jacob Morman who was the owner of the activity on our side,
  and Wayne Davison who worked hard, deployed new servers, and went
  above and beyond the call of duty in getting this deployed quickly.
  Our engineering team did a lot of work especially, Dave Brondsema was
  also of great help, enabling our Allura open source forge to deliver
  on performance. We’re also very grateful to Antonio DeMarco the
  contractor who actually turned all our specifications and fix requests
  into a working platform. And I’s also like to thank Mark Ramm who
  helped mobilize and organize the engineering, contractor, and site
  operations work so that we could get this done quickly. Last but not
  least, I wish to say thank to Andrea Pescetti, who actually provided
  us with all details about how those websites work.
 

 +1 and thanks to all that helped.  And especially, to you Roberto, for
 having the original idea that SourceForge might help, and then
 perusing that idea, especially through the chaos of the ooo-dev list!

 -Rob

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[TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations


Hi,

the Pootle server is updated to the latest resource strings and a first 
set of languages is provided. At least for the UI, help is in progress. 
The available languages are the languages where we have already provided 
developer snapshots, means languages where we got feedback so far. We 
all know that more languages would be better and we will add more 
languages on demand...


But I would like to ask our translation volunteers what do you think 
when we will be able to have a complete translation.


Or better I would like to ask the following questions

1. Do we have volunteers for the currently available languages, see [1]?

2. Can we get a rough estimation when we can expect a 100% translation
2.1 for UI?
2.2 for Help?

3. Which other language should we add, where we have volunteers?


NOTE: at the moment we have *en-US* the default, if you want en-GB, 
en-ZA, raise your hands.


But in general we should only add a language when we have volunteers.

Please help us and gave feedback!

Juergen

Re: Rat scan vs SGA

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 5:05 AM, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote:
snip

 * binary files such as .jpeg, .png, .odX that should have a header
 inside, but are more complex in terms of adding a header (more
 difficult than my current perl script)


 Is a license header in image files really necessary?  Can the Rat tool
 handle this?

 As to .odX (you mean .odt, .odp, .odc,... right?):  We could put the license
 header into description.xml: Extract the .description.xml from the .odX, add
 the license header like you do for any other xml file, and put it back into
 the .odX.



We ran into this with the ODF Toolkit. RAT does not understand ODF
files. We might change that in the future (using the ODF Toolkit).
So we had to exclude the ODF files from the scan.

We also wrote a Java program (using the ODF Toolkit) that
automatically added license information to the document's metadata.
That worked fine for us, except in a small number of cases where the
documents were being used in unit tests that were testing document
metadata.  (Doh!)

Sot I'd in general be careful that you are not breaking any test
files.  For example, if your ran the ODF Toolkit's license adding
code, you would also silently update all pre-ODF 1.2 files to ODF 1.2,
and that might break or invalidate some of the AOO test cases,

So the minimal fix might be best.

-Rob

Re: [BUILD]: next developer snapshot or an RC?

2012-03-21 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann


Hi

On 19.03.2012 10:26, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

my initial plan was to propose a RC candidate today but we got some feedback
from the IPMC mailing list that we should integrate besides the last show
stopper issue.

Issue:
Bug 118895 - aoo3.4 r1240836: some contextmenu entries are not localized

This issue makes me nervous as long as we don't understand the root cause
because in a local build environment where I have translations for some of the
missing strings, the strings are still missing in a German office. It's under
investigation...


Based on the current situation I would like to propose the following.

No new developer snapshot today. We are working on the feedback and the show
stopper issue.

Hopefully tomorrow we have the feedback integrated and I would like to propose
an English ONLY Release candidate build.

Why?
Simply to work on the process and to achieve that we don't get any surprises
later on. The last real show stopper issue is related to translations only.

In parallel we will continue to work on our pootle server to drive the
localization efforts forward.

Any opinions on this proposed approach?

Juergen




I am getting very enthuastic about the things we have achieved, especially in 
the last days. A release is getting into the view.


The current situation from my point of view is
- We have solved all known code related show stoppers - the creation of next 
developer snapshots are currently in progress in order to verify the 
corresponding fixes.
- The translation process is starting to work - big thanks from my side to the 
involved people -, but some things are open here
-- Currently only Raphael has full admin access to the Pootle server as far as I 
know. Thus, the integration of further languages respectively updating the 
Pootle data with further translations provided by all the volunteers who are 
translating, but do not have access, have to go through only one person. I think 
this is a bottleneck.

-- No other language than English (US) is complete for a release.
- RAT scan cleanup is open
- update of LICENSE and NOTICE files is open
- preparation of downlad page for source release is open
- clarification of binary download handling is open

It looks like that we can solve everything in the next couple of days except the 
translation.


Question:
What is your opinion about a release which only contains language English (US)?


Best regards, Oliver.

[CODE] svn commit: r1303221 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/extensions.lst

This commit (see subject) changes URLs in the new main/extensions.lst 
file.  The new URLs are multiply indirect. This breaks the download of 
the extensions, somewhat.  The actual downloading still works (thanks to 
the cool LWP::UserAgent perl module) but the downloaded files are stored 
under the wrong name (singular, all files are stored under the same 
name) and will therefore not be included in the installation set.


The build should go through, only the extensions will be missing from 
the install sets.


The change is an improvement, so I am working on extending the file 
format of main/extensions.lst and on fixing the download scripts to 
handle indirect URLs.


-Andre

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

2012-03-21 Thread Mark Ramm


 And finally: would you have any objection to us using a mix of fixed
 mirrors, elastic file delivery services (like s3), and commercial CDN
 service to handle spikes in download gracefully and assure that global
 users get good download performance when local mirrors are overloaded
 or not available?


 No, we may even be willing to budget some amount for this purpose.
 Cost estimates would be appreciated as our budget numbers for FY2012
 need to be finalized next week.


Sorry that it's taken a bit to get back to you.   We are working on getting
pricing from a variety of providers, and my personal goal is to find a way
for us to fund the CDN and S3 costs, and to provide this to the community
as a free (as in beer) service.

Thanks everybody who provided anecdotal information on historical traffic
peaks, and particularly for the steady state run rate information.   That
has been invaluable as we talk with vendors about the suplemental capacity
we need to acquire to handle peak loads.

There's one key input to figuring out if I can pay for all of this out of
ad revenue, which is what percentage of the daily downloads are expected to
come from auto-updater software or other non-browser scripts?   Would that
traffic still be pointed primarily at AOO owned domains and mirrors, or
would we be handling some of that from the sf.net service?

And finally, I'd also be interested in finding out if you know percentage
of traffic is from North America vs the rest of the world because some
providers give very different rates for different locations, for example
Cloudfront publishes $0.02/gb US and $0.12/gb in South America.

Thanks again for to everybody who helped with data so far!

--Mark Ramm


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Re: [TRANSLATION] First part is now at pootle

2012-03-21 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

Hi Jürgen, *

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:48:55AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 excuse my top posting.
 
 It is not yet clarified how or if we can ensure the translation from
 non committers. You should have noticed that we at Apache take some
 things more serious than others.
 
 The easiest way is to get access to the language you want to
 translate is to become a committer. Maybe we find another solution
 but why not becoming a committer?
 
 The first step is to sign a iCLA
 (http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt) and send it back to
 Apache.
 
 If you can work with offline tools feel free to contact me or
 Raphael and we will help to provide a set of po files. The

I guess most people will want to work off-line, at least I count three
people on the Spanish mailing list willing to help translating. There
should be a way to download the po files without needing to contact you
directly.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [TRANSLATION] First part is now at pootle

2012-03-21 Thread Paolo Pozzan


Il 21/03/2012 16:14, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto:

Hi Jürgen, *

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:48:55AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

excuse my top posting.

It is not yet clarified how or if we can ensure the translation from
non committers. You should have noticed that we at Apache take some
things more serious than others.

The easiest way is to get access to the language you want to
translate is to become a committer. Maybe we find another solution
but why not becoming a committer?

The first step is to sign a iCLA
(http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt) and send it back to
Apache.

If you can work with offline tools feel free to contact me or
Raphael and we will help to provide a set of po files. The


I guess most people will want to work off-line, at least I count three
people on the Spanish mailing list willing to help translating. There
should be a way to download the po files without needing to contact you
directly.


I confirm that working offline is usually preferred. Many useful 
functions like translation memories and terminology are not available in 
pootle while they are common in offline tools.


Paolo Pozzan

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 15:45 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
We're still exploring available options and collecting
data imacat. Right now an existing ooo mirror operator
has reported to us that his average bandwidth consumption
for ooo was ~100Mbps. It would help us to know how many
mirrors support the existing mirrorbrain service for ooo
to get a guess as to what the impact would be for Apache
mirrors, but we are anticipating similar bandwidth requirements
for our mirrors given the available data.

What we currently need are estimates related to peak downloads
during the initial few days / weeks of a release. Anyone
with historical data on this needs to step forward and share
it ASAP- 300K strikes me as an off-peak figure at this point.

I have not seen any actual log files with this info, but there are
reported tidbits that might be useful, such as:

OpenOffice.org 3.0 was downloaded 3 million times in its first week,
with about 80% of the downloads by Windows users, an official with the
group said in a blog post on Monday.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9117575/OpenOffice.org_3.0_scores_strong_first_week

So per day that is 430,000, around 50% much more than the average we
saw in February. Not as much as I expected.

What I don't know is when they enabled the update notifications
feature then, if it even existed in 3.0. I think that will have a big
impact on download peaks. In fact, we might even want to be clever,
like have a CGI that sometimes says there is an update available, and
sometimes does not, just to spread out the load more evenly. For
example, if we have our server respond you have the latest 90% of
the time, then it will take several requests on average for the
auto-update feature to prompt the user to download the update. So we
have some ability to throttle that demand, based on our CGI.

-Rob

I thought that the mirror system had failed to keep up with demand in
the first day or two of the 3.0 release, if that is true (I can't find a
reference now), then it would of been higher if the servers had been
able to keep up. Anyway my recall is that it was something about the
download rush happening before the push from master to all the mirrors
had finished - which IIRC was a recurring problem prompted by bloggers
trying to scoop the release announcement.

Anyway - just passing along what I recall

//drew

- Original Message -
From: imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
To: Apache OpenOffice Developers ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

Please correct me if I'm wrong. But I thought that the Apache
mirrors have more bandwidth than the SourceForge mirrors. Could someone
explain why do we put the default download to places with less bandwidth?

Apache mirrors:
http://www.apache.org/mirrors/

SourceForge mirrors:
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Mirrors

On 2012/03/21 03:07, Dave Fisher said:

On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

From: Mark Ramm m...@geek.net
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer
joe_schae...@yahoo.com
Cc: Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Joe Schaefer
joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:

FWIW the ballpark figures we have today Roberto

are roughly 12GB worth of release artifacts and

about100TB / day worth of download traffic.

Thanks for the information.

I'm working with Roberto to make sure all the right technical
resources are aligned behind him, and that we have the resources to
provide a great experience to your users. So, I'm here to help
out,
and validate everything to make sure we are prepared to handle
AOO's
peak load.

Based on the file size data in the previous e-mail, and this
bandwidth
information, I believe we are talking about something around 700k
download per day.

Is that peak load, or is that sustained load? If it's
sustained, do
you have any ideas about what peak load would look like? If not,
do
you have any ideas about what sustained load would look like?

Up until the Update service broke last week, ooo was sustaining 300K
downloads a day. We used a ballpark download figure of 300 MB per user,
which may explain the discrepancy if you used something considerably
less.

We simply don't have any data at this point about peak load to make
any educated guesses.

When this subject came up last year Marcus described peak as 300,000
downloads / day.

Stats were collected until last February's switch to Kenai. See
http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/marketing_bouncer.html

Re: [TRANSLATION] First part is now at pootle


On 3/21/12 4:14 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi Jürgen, *

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 08:48:55AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

excuse my top posting.

It is not yet clarified how or if we can ensure the translation from
non committers. You should have noticed that we at Apache take some
things more serious than others.

The easiest way is to get access to the language you want to
translate is to become a committer. Maybe we find another solution
but why not becoming a committer?

The first step is to sign a iCLA
(http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt) and send it back to
Apache.

If you can work with offline tools feel free to contact me or
Raphael and we will help to provide a set of po files. The


I guess most people will want to work off-line, at least I count three
people on the Spanish mailing list willing to help translating. There
should be a way to download the po files without needing to contact you
directly.


I agree and that is the reason why Andre already suggested on the wiki 
page to checkin the po files directly.


I take it as request and will prepare a set of po files for es asap.

Juergen

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

Right now the ASF has roughly 250 mirrors,
of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
be in better shape overall than what happened
in the past, assuming we do something smart
about staggering the Update service.  There
will be no way to surprise anybody about the
release timing for an AOO release as at least

a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.


I still would like to strongly suggest that
someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
existing mirror operators to get them to cover
some of our losses.





 From: drew d...@baseanswers.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution
 
On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 15:45 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
  We're still exploring available options and collecting
  data imacat.  Right now an existing ooo mirror operator
  has reported to us that his average bandwidth consumption
  for ooo was ~100Mbps.  It would help us to know how many
  mirrors support the existing mirrorbrain service for ooo
  to get a guess as to what the impact would be for Apache
  mirrors, but we are anticipating similar bandwidth requirements
  for our mirrors given the available data.
 
 
  What we currently need are estimates related to peak downloads
  during the initial few days / weeks of a release.  Anyone
  with historical data on this needs to step forward and share
  it ASAP- 300K strikes me as an off-peak figure at this point.
 
 
 I have not seen any actual log files with this info, but there are
 reported tidbits that might be useful, such as:
 
 OpenOffice.org 3.0 was downloaded 3 million times in its first week,
 with about 80% of the downloads by Windows users, an official with the
 group said in a blog post on Monday.
 
 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9117575/OpenOffice.org_3.0_scores_strong_first_week
 
 So per day that is 430,000, around 50% much more than the average we
 saw in February.  Not as much as I expected.
 
 What I don't know is when they enabled the update notifications
 feature then, if it even existed in 3.0.  I think that will have a big
 impact on download peaks.  In fact, we might even want to be clever,
 like have a CGI that sometimes says there is an update available, and
 sometimes does not, just to spread out the load more evenly.  For
 example, if we have our server respond you have the latest 90% of
 the time, then it will take several requests on average for the
 auto-update feature to prompt the user to download the update.  So we
 have some ability to throttle that demand, based on our CGI.
 
 -Rob

I thought that the mirror system had failed to keep up with demand in
the first day or two of the 3.0 release, if that is true (I can't find a
reference now), then it would of been higher if the servers had been
able to keep up. Anyway my recall is that it was something about the
download rush happening before the push from master to all the mirrors
had finished - which IIRC was a recurring problem prompted by bloggers
trying to scoop the release announcement.

Anyway - just passing along what I recall

//drew


 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
  To: Apache OpenOffice Developers ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution
 
      Please correct me if I'm wrong.  But I thought that the Apache
  mirrors have more bandwidth than the SourceForge mirrors.  Could someone
  explain why do we put the default download to places with less bandwidth?
 
  Apache mirrors:
  http://www.apache.org/mirrors/
 
  SourceForge mirrors:
  http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Mirrors
 
  On 2012/03/21 03:07, Dave Fisher said:
 
   On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 
   
   From: Mark Ramm m...@geek.net
   To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer
  joe_schae...@yahoo.com
   Cc: Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:25 PM
   Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution
 
   On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Joe Schaefer
  joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
   FWIW the ballpark figures we have today Roberto
 
   are roughly 12GB worth of release artifacts and
 
   about100TB / day worth of download traffic.
 
   Thanks for the information.
 
   I'm working with Roberto to make sure all the right technical
   resources are aligned behind him, and that we have the resources to
   provide a great experience to your users. So, I'm here to help
  out,
   and validate everything to make sure we are prepared to handle
  AOO's
   peak load.
 
   Based on the file size data in the previous e-mail, and this
  bandwidth

Re: [TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations

2012-03-21 Thread Paolo Pozzan


Speaking for italian... (see below)

Il 21/03/2012 15:11, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto:

Hi,

the Pootle server is updated to the latest resource strings and a first
set of languages is provided. At least for the UI, help is in progress.
The available languages are the languages where we have already provided
developer snapshots, means languages where we got feedback so far. We
all know that more languages would be better and we will add more
languages on demand...

But I would like to ask our translation volunteers what do you think
when we will be able to have a complete translation.

Or better I would like to ask the following questions

1. Do we have volunteers for the currently available languages, see [1]?


We have a bunch of volunteers who have already given their availability 
for this job.



2. Can we get a rough estimation when we can expect a 100% translation
2.1 for UI?


One week, more or less.


2.2 for Help?


Usually the amount of work for help is greater than UI, but I don't know 
if this is the case. We need to see the files to make an estimate.


[cut]

Paolo Pozzan

Re: update service - proposal for temporary solution until AOO 3.4 is released.

2012-03-21 Thread Kay Schenk

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi,


 On 21.03.2012 00:33, Kay Schenk wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:



 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net**
 wrote:


 On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

  On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
 arie...@apache.orgwrote:


 Hi Kay,

 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:42:22PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:


 Well interesting...I did some editing of versionrc and now I get that

 an

 update does not exist  after pulling off the pkgfmt=rpm requirement.
 However, we can not expect users of existing product to go messing

 with

 their existing setups (i.e. editing files). I don't mind the odd

 message

 I

 was getting before about an rpm package not being found.

 I'm just wondering if there's some way to configure the snippet you

 sent

 to

 just do something a bit more friendly for all possible situations
 that

 are

 currently out there now.

 Thoughts? Any experts on how to create a generic null feed?


 I tried with my original empty xml file (not a feed) and it works as
 expected with every combination:

 UpdateURL=
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

 UpdateURL=

 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=rpmhttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm


 UpdateURL=

 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=debhttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=deb


 UpdateURL=

 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=dmghttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=dmg


 I can't see why it does not work for you.
 Please try pointing the UpdateURL to this file
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update


 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina


 Well, foo, when I do this replacement, it does work as you say! Darn!

 OK,

 let me re-investigate why the other snippet with my internal host

 redirect

 isn't working quite right! :(


 How are doing this redirect?

 Regards,
 Dave


 I've got the following in my local /etc/hosts

  140.211.11.131  
 update36.services.openoffice.**orghttp://update36.services.openoffice.org

 here are versions I've played with in versionrc (I split the lines for
 easier reading for you)

 ++**+++
 [Version]
 AllLanguages=en-US
 buildid=330m20(Build:9567)
 ExtensionUpdateURL=
 http://updateexte.services.**openoffice.org/**
 ExtensionUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://updateexte.services.openoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
 OOOBaseVersion=3.3
 ProductBuildid=9567
 ProductMajor=330
 ProductMinor=20
 ProductSource=OOO330
 UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_3_en-**US

 #UpdateURL=
 http://update36.services.**openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
 *Update?pkgfmt=rpmhttp://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm

 UpdateURL=
 http://update36.services.**openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
 *Updatehttp://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

 #UpdateURL=
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=rpmhttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm

 UpdateUserAgent=PRODUCT  (${buildid}; ${_OS}; ${_ARCH};
 BundledLanguages=${**AllLanguages})
 ++**

 using Ariel's returns no update. Using the current one with the
 redirect
 returns the error business. (i mean it connects but I get a different
 message, a failed...)

 Things of note vis a vis people.apache.org vs www.openoffice.org (where
 I
 have the current re-route)

 If you just bring up:

 http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

 vs

 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update

 they look different in my browser...one has UTF-8 vs utf-8

 so I'm curious about this. I did up a little cgi and ran it on both
 people.apache.org and well, ooo-site-staging.apache.org and they both
 produce the same environment info.  So ???

 http://people.apache.org/~**kschenk/cgi-bin/env.cgihttp://people.apache.org/%7Ekschenk/cgi-bin/env.cgi
 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/cgi-bin/env.cgihttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/cgi-bin/env.cgi

 I will change the UTF-8 to utf-8 on www.openoffice.org and see what
 happens. Also did a diff on them and nothing but the case business.

 Meanwhile -- do you know how we get cgi to

np_sdk\mozsrc

2012-03-21 Thread Armin Le Grand


Hi all,

does anyone know what np_sdk\mozsrc is used for? It seems to provide 
some plugin capability for mozilla (firefox). Anyone can enlighten this...?


Sincerely,
Armin
--
ALG

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

2012-03-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni


--- Mer 21/3/12, Joe Schaefer ha scritto:
...
 Right now the ASF has roughly 250
 mirrors,
 of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
 we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
 we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
 the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
 be in better shape overall than what happened
 in the past, assuming we do something smart
 about staggering the Update service.  There
 will be no way to surprise anybody about the
 release timing for an AOO release as at least
 a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.
 
 

FWIW, I am pretty sure the problem will be
windows binaries: if we did a source-only
release we probably wouldn't lose any mirrors.

Perhaps there is some way to make the binary
packages opt-out for the mirrors?

Pedro.

 
 I still would like to strongly suggest that
 someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
 existing mirror operators to get them to cover
 some of our losses.

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 08:52 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 Right now the ASF has roughly 250 mirrors,
 of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
 we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
 we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
 the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
 be in better shape overall than what happened
 in the past, assuming we do something smart
 about staggering the Update service.  There
 will be no way to surprise anybody about the
 release timing for an AOO release as at least
 
 a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.
 
 
 I still would like to strongly suggest that
 someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
 existing mirror operators to get them to cover
 some of our losses.

Well, I'm looking this page:
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/mirrors/

@anyone: Is there a list with contact information (email addresses)
available also?

//drew

snip

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

Please lets leave that sort of issue
to infrastructure to worry about- what
we do about mirrors that cannot support
the AOO bandwidth needs is not a concern
for AOO itself.





 From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution
 

--- Mer 21/3/12, Joe Schaefer ha scritto:
...
 Right now the ASF has roughly 250
 mirrors,
 of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
 we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
 we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
 the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
 be in better shape overall than what happened
 in the past, assuming we do something smart
 about staggering the Update service.  There
 will be no way to surprise anybody about the
 release timing for an AOO release as at least
 a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.
 
 

FWIW, I am pretty sure the problem will be
windows binaries: if we did a source-only
release we probably wouldn't lose any mirrors.

Perhaps there is some way to make the binary
packages opt-out for the mirrors?

Pedro.

 
 I still would like to strongly suggest that
 someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
 existing mirror operators to get them to cover
 some of our losses.

Re: [TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations

2012-03-21 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile

Hi Jürgen,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 03:11:20PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 the Pootle server is updated to the latest resource strings and a
 first set of languages is provided. At least for the UI, help is in
 progress. The available languages are the languages where we have
 already provided developer snapshots, means languages where we got
 feedback so far. We all know that more languages would be better and
 we will add more languages on demand...
 
 But I would like to ask our translation volunteers what do you think
 when we will be able to have a complete translation.
 
 Or better I would like to ask the following questions
 
 1. Do we have volunteers for the currently available languages, see [1]?

speaking for the Spanish language, I can't tell yet. I understood your
mail http://s.apache.org/qQ as saying that AOO will only accept
translations if the original translator has signed an iCLA; today
I announced on the ES list that contributors will have to sign it, so
we'll have to wait and see how many people is willing to do so.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

Might be possible for Andrew to pull up
the subscriber list for the now-defunct
mirr...@distribution.openoffice.org list.

 From: drew d...@baseanswers.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 08:52 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 Right now the ASF has roughly 250 mirrors,
 of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
 we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
 we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
 the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
 be in better shape overall than what happened
 in the past, assuming we do something smart
 about staggering the Update service.  There
 will be no way to surprise anybody about the
 release timing for an AOO release as at least

 a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.

 I still would like to strongly suggest that
 someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
 existing mirror operators to get them to cover
 some of our losses.

Well, I'm looking this page:
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/mirrors/

@anyone: Is there a list with contact information (email addresses)
available also?

//drew

snip

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

Hi Peter,

Is there any way to contact the existing MirrorBrain hosts who support
OpenOffice.org?  Is there a mailing list we can send a note to?  We
would like to see if any of them would we able to help mirror the AOO
3.4 release as well, by being an ASF mirror as well.

More info on mirror requirements is here:

http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html

-Rob

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Right now the ASF has roughly 250 mirrors,
 of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
 we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
 we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
 the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
 be in better shape overall than what happened
 in the past, assuming we do something smart
 about staggering the Update service.  There
 will be no way to surprise anybody about the
 release timing for an AOO release as at least

 a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.


 I still would like to strongly suggest that
 someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
 existing mirror operators to get them to cover
 some of our losses.





 From: drew d...@baseanswers.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 15:45 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com 
 wrote:
  We're still exploring available options and collecting
  data imacat.  Right now an existing ooo mirror operator
  has reported to us that his average bandwidth consumption
  for ooo was ~100Mbps.  It would help us to know how many
  mirrors support the existing mirrorbrain service for ooo
  to get a guess as to what the impact would be for Apache
  mirrors, but we are anticipating similar bandwidth requirements
  for our mirrors given the available data.
 
 
  What we currently need are estimates related to peak downloads
  during the initial few days / weeks of a release.  Anyone
  with historical data on this needs to step forward and share
  it ASAP- 300K strikes me as an off-peak figure at this point.
 

 I have not seen any actual log files with this info, but there are
 reported tidbits that might be useful, such as:

 OpenOffice.org 3.0 was downloaded 3 million times in its first week,
 with about 80% of the downloads by Windows users, an official with the
 group said in a blog post on Monday.

 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9117575/OpenOffice.org_3.0_scores_strong_first_week

 So per day that is 430,000, around 50% much more than the average we
 saw in February.  Not as much as I expected.

 What I don't know is when they enabled the update notifications
 feature then, if it even existed in 3.0.  I think that will have a big
 impact on download peaks.  In fact, we might even want to be clever,
 like have a CGI that sometimes says there is an update available, and
 sometimes does not, just to spread out the load more evenly.  For
 example, if we have our server respond you have the latest 90% of
 the time, then it will take several requests on average for the
 auto-update feature to prompt the user to download the update.  So we
 have some ability to throttle that demand, based on our CGI.

 -Rob

I thought that the mirror system had failed to keep up with demand in
the first day or two of the 3.0 release, if that is true (I can't find a
reference now), then it would of been higher if the servers had been
able to keep up. Anyway my recall is that it was something about the
download rush happening before the push from master to all the mirrors
had finished - which IIRC was a recurring problem prompted by bloggers
trying to scoop the release announcement.

Anyway - just passing along what I recall

//drew



 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
  To: Apache OpenOffice Developers ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
  Cc:
  Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution
 
      Please correct me if I'm wrong.  But I thought that the Apache
  mirrors have more bandwidth than the SourceForge mirrors.  Could someone
  explain why do we put the default download to places with less bandwidth?
 
  Apache mirrors:
  http://www.apache.org/mirrors/
 
  SourceForge mirrors:
  http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Mirrors
 
  On 2012/03/21 03:07, Dave Fisher said:
 
   On Mar 20, 2012, at 11:33 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
 
   
   From: Mark Ramm m...@geek.net
   To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer
  joe_schae...@yahoo.com
   Cc: Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com
   Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:25 PM
   Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution
 
   On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Joe Schaefer
  joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
   FWIW the ballpark figures we have today Roberto
 
   are roughly 12GB worth of release artifacts and

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:32 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 08:52 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote:
  Right now the ASF has roughly 250 mirrors,
  of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
  we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
  we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
  the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
  be in better shape overall than what happened
  in the past, assuming we do something smart
  about staggering the Update service.  There
  will be no way to surprise anybody about the
  release timing for an AOO release as at least
  
  a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.
  
  
  I still would like to strongly suggest that
  someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
  existing mirror operators to get them to cover
  some of our losses.
 
 Well, I'm looking this page:
 http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/mirrors/
 
 @anyone: Is there a list with contact information (email addresses)
 available also?

Never mind - the info is on that page, it was just an overflow column on
my display..

OK - I'll work on an email today.


 
 //drew
 
 snip

Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

Hah, I missed it as well ;-)

 From: drew d...@baseanswers.com
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: Sourceforge and AOO 3.4 distribution

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 12:32 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 08:52 -0700, Joe Schaefer wrote:
  Right now the ASF has roughly 250 mirrors,
  of which atm I'd expect 50 or so to drop us if
  we start carrying AOO releases.  That means
  we'd have about twice as many mirrors as
  the mirrorbrain OOo service has, so we should
  be in better shape overall than what happened
  in the past, assuming we do something smart
  about staggering the Update service.  There
  will be no way to surprise anybody about the
  release timing for an AOO release as at least

  a week of public discussion/voting will precede it.

  I still would like to strongly suggest that
  someone on the PPMC step up NOW and offer to contact
  existing mirror operators to get them to cover
  some of our losses.

 Well, I'm looking this page:
 http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/mirrors/

 @anyone: Is there a list with contact information (email addresses)
 available also?

Never mind - the info is on that page, it was just an overflow column on
my display..

OK - I'll work on an email today.

 //drew

 snip

Re: Registration

2012-03-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 20/03/2012 16:32, Rob Weir wrote:

So it does have a locale parameter.   My guess is the legacy
registration server used that info to provide a localized registration
form.


I think it used to redirect to a (localized) page saying something like 
Thank you for downloading OpenOffice.org and providing links to a few 
resources like:

- Extensions and Temmplates
- Forums
- Mailing lists.

There might still be localizaed banners around too.

Regards,
  Andrea.

Re: [TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations


On 3/21/12 5:36 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

Hi Jürgen,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 03:11:20PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

the Pootle server is updated to the latest resource strings and a
first set of languages is provided. At least for the UI, help is in
progress. The available languages are the languages where we have
already provided developer snapshots, means languages where we got
feedback so far. We all know that more languages would be better and
we will add more languages on demand...

But I would like to ask our translation volunteers what do you think
when we will be able to have a complete translation.

Or better I would like to ask the following questions

1. Do we have volunteers for the currently available languages, see [1]?


speaking for the Spanish language, I can't tell yet. I understood your
mail http://s.apache.org/qQ as saying that AOO will only accept
translations if the original translator has signed an iCLA; today
I announced on the ES list that contributors will have to sign it, so
we'll have to wait and see how many people is willing to do so.



I am not sure, if they provide it as patch and explicitly say it is 
their own work and under ALv2.


but I am no lawyer, maybe someone who know it better can answer.

Juergen

Re: [CODE] svn commit: r1303221 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/extensions.lst

As a work around you can erase the content of main/extensions.lst (or 
comment everything out.)


On 21.03.2012 15:50, Andre Fischer wrote:

This commit (see subject) changes URLs in the new main/extensions.lst
file. The new URLs are multiply indirect. This breaks the download of
the extensions, somewhat. The actual downloading still works (thanks to
the cool LWP::UserAgent perl module) but the downloaded files are stored
under the wrong name (singular, all files are stored under the same
name) and will therefore not be included in the installation set.

The build should go through, only the extensions will be missing from
the install sets.

The change is an improvement, so I am working on extending the file
format of main/extensions.lst and on fixing the download scripts to
handle indirect URLs.

-Andre

Re: [BUILD][RELEASE]: propose a further snapshot to verify the latest fixes


On 3/21/12 11:28 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

I thought we would be ready to start building a RC but I think we should
take the upcoming problems serious. And we should work on the RAT
cleanup first.

For that reason I would like to propose that we prepare a further
developer snapshot based on revision 1303343 (Last Changed Rev:
1303221). This build should be used to verify the fixes.



it seems that we have a problem with the bundled extensions after the 
latest changes in extension.lst and the work on the fix is ongoing. We 
will have some delay with the snapshots. But I would like to include 
this fix as well.


Juergen


We should concentrate on 1 full build for en-US and language packs at a
minimum. If there is capacity to build/upload more full builds it will
be fine.

Let us focus on the remaining work we have to do.

119100 extensions-installed dictionaries spell checking does not work -
under investigation

119097 remove xwphook and its usage - already addressed and Yuri will
fix it when he has access

119098 check/adapt license header based on RAT output and SGA -
addressed and we are working on it

- update LICENSE and NOTICE file - help is appreciated

- prepare download page for the source releases, something like
http://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/downloads.html

- clarify how we want handle the binary downloads - I will start a new
thread to discuss this

- anything else?


Juergen

Re: [CODE] svn commit: r1303221 - /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/extensions.lst


Fixed in revision 1303475.

Extended main/extensions.lst so that the name of remote extensions can 
be specified explicitly.  Handling the download via (multiple) redirects 
correctly.


Will update the documentation tomorrow.

-Andre

On 21.03.2012 15:50, Andre Fischer wrote:

This commit (see subject) changes URLs in the new main/extensions.lst
file. The new URLs are multiply indirect. This breaks the download of
the extensions, somewhat. The actual downloading still works (thanks to
the cool LWP::UserAgent perl module) but the downloaded files are stored
under the wrong name (singular, all files are stored under the same
name) and will therefore not be included in the installation set.

The build should go through, only the extensions will be missing from
the install sets.

The change is an improvement, so I am working on extending the file
format of main/extensions.lst and on fixing the download scripts to
handle indirect URLs.

-Andre

[Pootle][Translation] Why needs to translate VCLTesttool strings?

2012-03-21 Thread Reizinger Zoltán


Hi,
My second question to translation:
The po file /basic/source/app.po contains strings to VCLTesttools. Why 
it needs to be translated?
IIRC we decided not to use VCLTesttool in QA work, because we not want 
to use it, and no one want to learn BASIC.

Regards,
Zoltan

Re: [Pootle][Translation] Why needs to translate VCLTesttool strings?

2012-03-21 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 21.03.12 19:29, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán:
 Hi,
 My second question to translation:
 The po file /basic/source/app.po contains strings to VCLTesttools. Why
 it needs to be translated?
 IIRC we decided not to use VCLTesttool in QA work, because we not want
 to use it, and no one want to learn BASIC.
I write in a mail, that the /basic/source/app.po is for the VCLTesttool.
We still have this tool in the source AND in the binary. But it's hidden
and I see no reason why to translate this strings.

Greetings Raphael


-- 
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: AOO 3.4 Project Status wiki

2012-03-21 Thread Simon Brouwer


Hi Simon,

Thanks for this initiative!

After months of absence I am looking to become active again in the 
project, and this will help to know what is going on.


Op 21-3-2012 8:38, Shenfeng Liu schreef:

Hi, all,
   I tried to update the Project Reporting wiki and added AOO 3.4 status.
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting

   My intention is to make a centralized place for people to get a big
picture on what's going on, and what's the open issues... For now the only
way for me to get those information is to go through all the mails... I
hope this wiki page can help a little bit... I will try to make regular
update according to what I got from the mail list. While I think every one
is free to add items there.

   Please tell me if any comment/suggestion.
   Thanks!

- Simon




--
Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

Simon Brouwer

Re: After AOO 3.4, attracting new contributors

2012-03-21 Thread Simon Brouwer


Hi Regina,

Thanks for these excellent insights.

Best regards
Simon

Op 20-3-2012 13:29, Regina Henschel schreef:
(...)


It is impossible to understand the code without guides and without
mentoring.

Conclusion, wish or how you might call it:
(1) Document parts of the code very detailed in all steps, including
help and accessibility. For example: How to make a new dialog? How does
an Excel import filter works? I could start only after Eike Rathke has
documented the process of adding new functions to Calc in
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Calc/Implementation/Spreadsheet_Functions


(2) Document an overview of AOO. For example: What parts are all
touched, when a user drags a corner of a shape till the shape is
changed? Or what parts are touched, when a writer document is opened.
And the other way round, what is handled in vcl or cosv or all the other
modules?

(3) Document AOO specific things. For example what are these OSL_*,
which are used, when and why. What special types exists, why do they
exist, when should they be used?

(4) Increase mentoring. Such mentor should identify a nice to have
feature and offer to guide the volunteer. Armin has mentored the
linecap feature that way and it has worked well. Although some
essential parts are done by Armin, I did a lot by myself and got some
new insides in the code.


Getting a build is a critical part for newcomers, especially on Windows.

(5) Work very hard to provide a buildable trunk on Friday. It is very
frustrating when you plan to do some coding on weekend and the build fails.

(6) Without the document about building OOo on Windows by Mathias Bauer
and the succeeding Wiki page
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_OOo_with_Cygwin_on_Windows
I was not able to build OOo. So keep this information up to date; it is
essential for newcomers.

Kind regards
Regina






--
Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

Simon Brouwer

Re: AOO 3.4 Project Status wiki

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Simon Brouwer si...@brousant.nl wrote:
 Hi Simon,

 Thanks for this initiative!

 After months of absence I am looking to become active again in the project,
 and this will help to know what is going on.


Hi Simon, welcome home.

-Rob

 Op 21-3-2012 8:38, Shenfeng Liu schreef:

 Hi, all,
   I tried to update the Project Reporting wiki and added AOO 3.4 status.
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting

   My intention is to make a centralized place for people to get a big
 picture on what's going on, and what's the open issues... For now the only
 way for me to get those information is to go through all the mails... I
 hope this wiki page can help a little bit... I will try to make regular
 update according to what I got from the mail list. While I think every one
 is free to add items there.

   Please tell me if any comment/suggestion.
   Thanks!

 - Simon



 --
 Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

 Simon Brouwer

Re: [TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations

2012-03-21 Thread FR web forum

French translation ready in a couple of weeks

But, we have some strings pending like:
basic.src#IDD_TT_ABOUT_DIALOG.4.fixedtext.text | ©1995-2010 Oracle

What to do with it?

Re: np_sdk\mozsrc

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote:
        Hi all,

 does anyone know what np_sdk\mozsrc is used for? It seems to provide some
 plugin capability for mozilla (firefox). Anyone can enlighten this...?


Is that the browser plugin that allows ODF documents to be rendered in
the browser window?

 Sincerely,
        Armin
 --
 ALG

Re: [TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations

2012-03-21 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 21.03.12 20:31, schrieb FR web forum:
 French translation ready in a couple of weeks

 But, we have some strings pending like:
 basic.src#IDD_TT_ABOUT_DIALOG.4.fixedtext.text | ©1995-2010 Oracle

 What to do with it?
This one is from the VCL TestTool.

-- 
My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/

Re: [TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations

2012-03-21 Thread FR web forum



- Mail original -
 But, we have some strings pending like:
 basic.src#IDD_TT_ABOUT_DIALOG.4.fixedtext.text | ©1995-2010 Oracle

 What to do with it?
This one is from the VCL TestTool.

I know but is it the correct string in english?

Re: update service - proposal for temporary solution until AOO 3.4 is released.


On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
 orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 
 On 21.03.2012 00:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
 
 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net**
 wrote:
 
 
 On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 
 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
 arie...@apache.orgwrote:
 
 
 Hi Kay,
 
 On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:42:22PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
 
 
 Well interesting...I did some editing of versionrc and now I get that
 
 an
 
 update does not exist  after pulling off the pkgfmt=rpm requirement.
 However, we can not expect users of existing product to go messing
 
 with
 
 their existing setups (i.e. editing files). I don't mind the odd
 
 message
 
 I
 
 was getting before about an rpm package not being found.
 
 I'm just wondering if there's some way to configure the snippet you
 
 sent
 
 to
 
 just do something a bit more friendly for all possible situations
 that
 
 are
 
 currently out there now.
 
 Thoughts? Any experts on how to create a generic null feed?
 
 
 I tried with my original empty xml file (not a feed) and it works as
 expected with every combination:
 
 UpdateURL=
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
 UpdateURL=
 
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=rpmhttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 
 
 UpdateURL=
 
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=debhttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=deb
 
 
 UpdateURL=
 
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=dmghttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=dmg
 
 
 I can't see why it does not work for you.
 Please try pointing the UpdateURL to this file
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
 
 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina
 
 
 Well, foo, when I do this replacement, it does work as you say! Darn!
 
 OK,
 
 let me re-investigate why the other snippet with my internal host
 
 redirect
 
 isn't working quite right! :(
 
 
 How are doing this redirect?
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 
 I've got the following in my local /etc/hosts
 
 140.211.11.131  
 update36.services.openoffice.**orghttp://update36.services.openoffice.org
 
 here are versions I've played with in versionrc (I split the lines for
 easier reading for you)
 
 ++**+++
 [Version]
 AllLanguages=en-US
 buildid=330m20(Build:9567)
 ExtensionUpdateURL=
 http://updateexte.services.**openoffice.org/**
 ExtensionUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://updateexte.services.openoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
 OOOBaseVersion=3.3
 ProductBuildid=9567
 ProductMajor=330
 ProductMinor=20
 ProductSource=OOO330
 UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_3_en-**US
 
 #UpdateURL=
 http://update36.services.**openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
 *Update?pkgfmt=rpmhttp://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 
 UpdateURL=
 http://update36.services.**openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
 *Updatehttp://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
 #UpdateURL=
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
 check.Update?pkgfmt=rpmhttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 
 UpdateUserAgent=PRODUCT  (${buildid}; ${_OS}; ${_ARCH};
 BundledLanguages=${**AllLanguages})
 ++**
 
 using Ariel's returns no update. Using the current one with the
 redirect
 returns the error business. (i mean it connects but I get a different
 message, a failed...)
 
 Things of note vis a vis people.apache.org vs www.openoffice.org (where
 I
 have the current re-route)
 
 If you just bring up:
 
 http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
 vs
 
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**check.Updatehttp://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
 they look different in my browser...one has UTF-8 vs utf-8
 
 so I'm curious about this. I did up a little cgi and ran it on both
 people.apache.org and well, ooo-site-staging.apache.org and they both
 produce the same environment info.  So ???
 
 http://people.apache.org/~**kschenk/cgi-bin/env.cgihttp://people.apache.org/%7Ekschenk/cgi-bin/env.cgi
 http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/cgi-bin/env.cgihttp://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/cgi-bin/env.cgi
 
 I will change the UTF-8 to utf-8 on www.openoffice.org and see

RE: np_sdk\mozsrc

2012-03-21 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton

From the README:

This folder contains Mozilla headers and source-files related 
to plugin development. The original version of the files were 
taken from Mozilla1.0 tarball.

These appear to be definitions needed to build a plug-in that is launched by 
the browser, not unlike what is provided for native code that can be run from 
Java via JNI (or can slave the Java VM via JNI).  This is funkier though.

It doesn't look like there is any plug-in code here directly.

It is all licensed NPL 1.1/GPL 2.0/LGPL 2.1 though.  Looks like it should be 
external somehow.

Completely off the top of my head, I suppose one quick way to tell if it is 
critical for anything is to rename the directory and try building with it 
obstructed from use.  

 - Dennis

-Original Message-
From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 12:57
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: np_sdk\mozsrc

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Armin Le Grand armin.le.gr...@me.com wrote:
Hi all,

 does anyone know what np_sdk\mozsrc is used for? It seems to provide some
 plugin capability for mozilla (firefox). Anyone can enlighten this...?


Is that the browser plugin that allows ODF documents to be rendered in
the browser window?

 Sincerely,
Armin
 --
 ALG

Re: Doctype of websites

2012-03-21 Thread Regina Henschel


Hi Dave,

Dave Fisher schrieb:
[..]


I am happy to report that the site doctype is now html5 and that
various minor issues with the site template were fixed.

I implemented the doctype using an SSI. If necessary any first level
folder in the site can theoretically have a special type. Doing so
might cause trouble with the site template, but ...


How do I use that?


Kind regards
Regina

Re: update service - proposal for temporary solution until AOO 3.4 is released.

2012-03-21 Thread Kay Schenk

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:


 On Mar 21, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

  On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 
  orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
 
  On 21.03.2012 00:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
 
  On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
 
  On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Dave Fisherdave2w...@comcast.net
 **
  wrote:
 
 
  On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
 
  On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
  arie...@apache.orgwrote:
 
 
  Hi Kay,
 
  On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 03:42:22PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
 
 
  Well interesting...I did some editing of versionrc and now I get
 that
 
  an
 
  update does not exist  after pulling off the pkgfmt=rpm requirement.
  However, we can not expect users of existing product to go messing
 
  with
 
  their existing setups (i.e. editing files). I don't mind the odd
 
  message
 
  I
 
  was getting before about an rpm package not being found.
 
  I'm just wondering if there's some way to configure the snippet
 you
 
  sent
 
  to
 
  just do something a bit more friendly for all possible situations
  that
 
  are
 
  currently out there now.
 
  Thoughts? Any experts on how to create a generic null feed?
 
 
  I tried with my original empty xml file (not a feed) and it works
 as
  expected with every combination:
 
  UpdateURL=
  http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
  check.Update
 http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
  UpdateURL=
 
  http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
  check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 
 
 
  UpdateURL=
 
  http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
  check.Update?pkgfmt=deb
 http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=deb
 
 
 
  UpdateURL=
 
  http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
  check.Update?pkgfmt=dmg
 http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=dmg
 
 
 
  I can't see why it does not work for you.
  Please try pointing the UpdateURL to this file
  http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
  check.Update
 http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
 
  Regards
  --
  Ariel Constenla-Haile
  La Plata, Argentina
 
 
  Well, foo, when I do this replacement, it does work as you say!
 Darn!
 
  OK,
 
  let me re-investigate why the other snippet with my internal host
 
  redirect
 
  isn't working quite right! :(
 
 
  How are doing this redirect?
 
  Regards,
  Dave
 
 
  I've got the following in my local /etc/hosts
 
  140.211.11.131  update36.services.openoffice.**org
 http://update36.services.openoffice.org
 
  here are versions I've played with in versionrc (I split the lines
 for
  easier reading for you)
 
  ++**+++
  [Version]
  AllLanguages=en-US
  buildid=330m20(Build:9567)
  ExtensionUpdateURL=
  http://updateexte.services.**openoffice.org/**
  ExtensionUpdateService/check.**Update
 http://updateexte.services.openoffice.org/ExtensionUpdateService/check.Update
 
  OOOBaseVersion=3.3
  ProductBuildid=9567
  ProductMajor=330
  ProductMinor=20
  ProductSource=OOO330
  UpdateID=OpenOffice.org_3_en-**US
 
  #UpdateURL=
  http://update36.services.**
 openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
  *Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 
 
  UpdateURL=
  http://update36.services.**
 openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.*
  *Update
 http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
  #UpdateURL=
  http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**
  check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update?pkgfmt=rpm
 
 
  UpdateUserAgent=PRODUCT  (${buildid}; ${_OS}; ${_ARCH};
  BundledLanguages=${**AllLanguages})
  ++**
 
  using Ariel's returns no update. Using the current one with the
  redirect
  returns the error business. (i mean it connects but I get a different
  message, a failed...)
 
  Things of note vis a vis people.apache.org vs www.openoffice.org(where
  I
  have the current re-route)
 
  If you just bring up:
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update
 http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
  vs
 
 
 http://people.apache.org/~**arielch/ProductUpdateService/**check.Update
 http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/ProductUpdateService/check.Update
 
  they look different in my browser...one has UTF-8 vs utf-8
 
  so I'm curious about this. I did up a little cgi and ran it on both
  people.apache.org and well, ooo-site-staging.apache.org and they both
  produce the same environment info.  So ???

Re: [TRANSLATION]: collecting status

2012-03-21 Thread Risto Jääskeläinen

Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [orwittm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: 

Hi,

I have setup a wiki page in order to provide/collect the status of the 
translation of specific languages [1].


I also linked this wiki page from our AOO 3.4 Release Plan cwiki page [2].

Does it makes sense to have such a wiki page?
If yes, please provide further data/information.

Please provide further data/information.

Initially I put in the following data from my memory:
-- As far as I know the strings for the user interface for Portuguese 
(Brazilian) are complete (currently not reflected on the Pootle server, but in 
the svn repository) - I do not the status for the help for Portuguese (Brazilian).
-- Zoltan stated in a post that the user interface strings for Hungarian are 
also complete, but I do not know, if some of this work is lost due to the fact 
that the Pootle server was not up to date.
-- I have see work on Finnish - issue 119066. It looks like that not all 
survived the Pootle server update. I have reopened the issue in order to 
indicate that a review is needed. Thanks.


[1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Translation_for_AOO_3.4_-_Status
[2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Plan


Thanks in advance, Oliver.


Hello!
I just check some new missing Finnish translation lines in Pootle (chart2 / 
source / controller / dialogs.po) and it seems to me normal situation: those 
missing translations are for new lines of version 3.4 and there is not yet 
Finnish translations for them.  And overall amount for new lines is quite 
normal for new version I think.  So there are no need anything else than 
translation work.

I am going to send my CLA to Apache. I think I can translate some lines as 
nobody or offline?

Regards
Risto

Re: Doctype of websites


On Mar 21, 2012, at 2:47 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

 Hi Dave,
 
 Dave Fisher schrieb:
 [..]
 
 I am happy to report that the site doctype is now html5 and that
 various minor issues with the site template were fixed.
 
 I implemented the doctype using an SSI. If necessary any first level
 folder in the site can theoretically have a special type. Doing so
 might cause trouble with the site template, but ...
 
 How do I use that?

You probably ought to do direct work with a local copy of the ooo-site. Using 
the bookmarklet you should do the template work first.

See http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/website-local.html

The api folder is a good candidate because it already has alternative ssi setup.

(1) File to create from a copy:

cd ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/api
cp ../doctype.mdtext .

edit doctype.mdtext

Change html to perhaps: HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd;

(2) Files to modify:

cd ooo/ooo-site/trunk/templates/api/ssi.mdtext

edit ssi.mdtext

Change /doctype.html to /api/doctype.html

(3) The doctype template should not need to be modified, but here it is:

ooo/ooo-site/trunk/templates/doctype.html
!DOCTYPE {{ headers.doctype }}

(4) The skeleton that shows how all the ssi go are pulled in is:

ooo/ooo-site/trunk/templates/skeleton.html

!--#include virtual={{ ssi.headers.doctype }} --
html
head
link href=/css/ooo.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css
{% if header %}
{% autoescape off %}{{ header }}{% endautoescape %}{% else %}
title{% block title %}{{ headers.title }}{% endblock %}/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8
{% endif %}
/head
body
!--#include virtual={{ ssi.headers.brand }} --
  div id=topbara
{% if ssi.headers.topnav %}!--#include virtual={{ ssi.headers.topnav }} 
--{% endif %}
div id=breadcrumbsa{% block breaddcrumbs %}{% autoescape off %}{{ 
breadcrumbs }}{% endautoescape %}{% endblock %}/div
  /div
  div id=clear/div
  {% if ssi.headers.leftnav %}!--#include virtual={{ ssi.headers.leftnav }} 
--{% endif %}
  {% if ssi.headers.rightnav %}!--#include virtual={{ ssi.headers.rightnav 
}} --{% endif %}
  div id=content
{% block legacy %}{% if ssi.headers.legacy %}div class=legacy{{ 
ssi.headers.legacy }}/div{% endif %}{% endblock %}
{% block title %}{% if headers.title %}h1 class=title{{ headers.title 
}}/h1{% endif %}{% endblock %}
{% block content %}{{ content|markdown }}{% endblock %}
  /div

!--#include virtual={{ ssi.headers.footer }} --

/body
/html

Regards,
Dave

 
 
 Kind regards
 Regina

Re: [TRANSLATION]: Request for translation and effort estimations

2012-03-21 Thread Claudio F Filho

Hi

Em 21-03-2012 11:11, Jürgen Schmidt escreveu:
 2. Can we get a rough estimation when we can expect a 100% translation
 2.1 for UI?

100%. I saw some strings that need attention only.

 2.2 for Help?

I think that ~ 1 month.

 3. Which other language should we add, where we have volunteers?

Yes. I have some interesting people, but we need confirm the position of
Pootle (registration of this volunteers and preserve/confirm/recognize
their contributions).

Best,
Claudio

Re: AOO 3.4 Project Status wiki

2012-03-21 Thread Donald Harbison

On Wednesday, March 21, 2012, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Simon Brouwer si...@brousant.nl wrote:
 Hi Simon,

 Thanks for this initiative!

 After months of absence I am looking to become active again in the
project,
 and this will help to know what is going on.


 Hi Simon, welcome home.

+1 (!)


 -Rob

 Op 21-3-2012 8:38, Shenfeng Liu schreef:

 Hi, all,
   I tried to update the Project Reporting wiki and added AOO 3.4 status.
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting

   My intention is to make a centralized place for people to get a big
 picture on what's going on, and what's the open issues... For now the
only
 way for me to get those information is to go through all the mails... I
 hope this wiki page can help a little bit... I will try to make regular
 update according to what I got from the mail list. While I think every
one
 is free to add items there.

   Please tell me if any comment/suggestion.
   Thanks!

 - Simon



 --
 Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,

 Simon Brouwer

Re: [Pootle][Translation] Why needs to translate VCLTesttool strings?

2012-03-21 Thread TJ Frazier


On 3/21/2012 14:36, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Am 21.03.12 19:29, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán:

Hi,
My second question to translation:
The po file /basic/source/app.po contains strings to VCLTesttools. Why
it needs to be translated?
IIRC we decided not to use VCLTesttool in QA work, because we not want
to use it, and no one want to learn BASIC.

I write in a mail, that the /basic/source/app.po is for the VCLTesttool.
We still have this tool in the source AND in the binary. But it's hidden
and I see no reason why to translate this strings.

Greetings Raphael



Hi,

If anybody decides they want to use that tool, point me at it. I know 
Basic pretty well.


/tj/

Google Analytics on download.openoffice.org

I'd like to enable Google Analytics on our download page.

This would allow us to collect some important data, such as the
geographical distribution of download requests.  This information has
been sought for 3.4 mirror distribution planning. It can also provide
continuity of our download statistics which we would otherwise lose
when moving off of MirrorBrain.

Of course, if some else is willing to implement an alternative way of
collecting this info, then I'd love it hear it.  But I think GA is the
most direct method.

Lazy consensus, 72 hours, etc.

-Rob

Re: Google Analytics on download.openoffice.org

2012-03-21 Thread Tim Williams

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 I'd like to enable Google Analytics on our download page.

 This would allow us to collect some important data, such as the
 geographical distribution of download requests.  This information has
 been sought for 3.4 mirror distribution planning. It can also provide
 continuity of our download statistics which we would otherwise lose
 when moving off of MirrorBrain.

 Of course, if some else is willing to implement an alternative way of
 collecting this info, then I'd love it hear it.  But I think GA is the
 most direct method.

 Lazy consensus, 72 hours, etc.

Hi Rob,
As long as it's accompanied by a link to a privacy policy, you should
be fine.  Jackrabbit's[1] is, I think, the canonical example around
here...

Thanks,
--tim

[1] - http://jackrabbit.apache.org/privacy-policy.html

Re: AOO 3.4 Project Status wiki

2012-03-21 Thread Kevin Grignon

All,

This is a great way for all stakeholders to share status, risks and issues. 
This can also help maintain visibility of all the disciplines that contribute 
to the offering, which sometimes can get lost in the implementation 
discussions. 

User experience would like to contribute updates to project reporting moving 
forward. 

Regards,
Kevin

On Mar 22, 2012, at 7:04 AM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday, March 21, 2012, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Simon Brouwer si...@brousant.nl wrote:
 Hi Simon,
 
 Thanks for this initiative!
 
 After months of absence I am looking to become active again in the
 project,
 and this will help to know what is going on.
 
 
 Hi Simon, welcome home.
 
 +1 (!)
 
 
 -Rob
 
 Op 21-3-2012 8:38, Shenfeng Liu schreef:
 
 Hi, all,
  I tried to update the Project Reporting wiki and added AOO 3.4 status.
 https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting
 
  My intention is to make a centralized place for people to get a big
 picture on what's going on, and what's the open issues... For now the
 only
 way for me to get those information is to go through all the mails... I
 hope this wiki page can help a little bit... I will try to make regular
 update according to what I got from the mail list. While I think every
 one
 is free to add items there.
 
  Please tell me if any comment/suggestion.
  Thanks!
 
 - Simon
 
 
 
 --
 Vriendelijke groet, Best regards,
 
 Simon Brouwer

Re: Google Analytics on download.openoffice.org


On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:28 PM, Tim Williams wrote:

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 I'd like to enable Google Analytics on our download page.
 
 This would allow us to collect some important data, such as the
 geographical distribution of download requests.  This information has
 been sought for 3.4 mirror distribution planning. It can also provide
 continuity of our download statistics which we would otherwise lose
 when moving off of MirrorBrain.
 
 Of course, if some else is willing to implement an alternative way of
 collecting this info, then I'd love it hear it.  But I think GA is the
 most direct method.
 
 Lazy consensus, 72 hours, etc.
 
 Hi Rob,
 As long as it's accompanied by a link to a privacy policy, you should
 be fine.  Jackrabbit's[1] is, I think, the canonical example around
 here...

I would consider putting this on these pages.

(1) www.openoffice.org/download/index.html (the actual url)

(2) The user contributing page that is displayed in parallel with the click 
to download.

(3) On the noregistration page we are discussing.

Regards,
Dave

 
 Thanks,
 --tim
 
 [1] - http://jackrabbit.apache.org/privacy-policy.html

Re: svn commit: r809507 - in /websites/production/ooo-site: cgi-bin/ content/

Hi Kay,

You might want to check with Joe. He might have done something to help you here.

Regards,
Dave

On Mar 21, 2012, at 4:39 PM, ksch...@apache.org wrote:

 Author: kschenk
 Date: Wed Mar 21 23:39:04 2012
 New Revision: 809507
 
 Log:
 kls -- moved update service
 
 Added:
websites/production/ooo-site/cgi-bin/
  - copied from r809506, websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/cgi-bin/
websites/production/ooo-site/content/
  - copied from r809506, websites/staging/ooo-site/trunk/content/

Re: Google Analytics on download.openoffice.org

On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 22:28 -0400, Tim Williams wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
  I'd like to enable Google Analytics on our download page.
 
  This would allow us to collect some important data, such as the
  geographical distribution of download requests.  This information has
  been sought for 3.4 mirror distribution planning. It can also provide
  continuity of our download statistics which we would otherwise lose
  when moving off of MirrorBrain.
 
  Of course, if some else is willing to implement an alternative way of
  collecting this info, then I'd love it hear it.  But I think GA is the
  most direct method.
 
  Lazy consensus, 72 hours, etc.
 
 Hi Rob,
 As long as it's accompanied by a link to a privacy policy, you should
 be fine.  Jackrabbit's[1] is, I think, the canonical example around
 here...


 
 Thanks,
Howdy tim

Right, used Jackrabbit as the template for this page

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/website-privacy-policy-draft

just add back the part regarding GA, assuming we add GA to the page.

//drew

 
 [1] - http://jackrabbit.apache.org/privacy-policy.html

Yet another Apache Logo

2012-03-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni


http://people.apache.org/~pfg/images/AOO-powered.png

Doesn't it make you all want to use FreeBSD? ;).

Pedro.

Re: Google Analytics on download.openoffice.org