Re: CMS diff: Why Apache OpenOffice: Great Software

2012-08-12 Thread Michal Hriň


Patch applied.

Thanks.


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@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-Title: Why Apache OpenOffice: Great Software
+Title: 为何选择Apache OpenOffice:杰出的软件
 Notice:Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
distributed with this work for additional information
@@ -16,18 +16,18 @@
specific language governing permissions and limitations
under the License.
-![Why Apache OpenOffice: Great Software](/why/images/why_great.png) #  
{.rfloatimg}
+![为何选择Apache OpenOffice:杰出的软件](/why/images/why_great.png) #  
{.rfloatimg}
-Great Software requires great people. Apache OpenOffice is the result  
of over twenty years' continuous high quality software engineering.  
Designed from the start as a **single piece of software**, Apache  
OpenOffice has a consistency and a quality that is world class. Its  
**open-source** development model means there are no secrets.
+杰出的软件依赖于杰出的人。Apache  
OpenOffice凝聚了二十多年持续高质量软件工程的结晶。从最初的**一体软件**开始,Apache  
OpenOffice秉承一致,具有世界级的质量。它的**开源**开发模式意味着没有秘密。

-  - **Better by design**
+  - **更好的设计**
-Developed over twenty years, Apache OpenOffice is a mature,  
reliable, product. OpenOffice was designed from the start as a single  
piece of software - not bolted together from separate software packages.  
This makes it very consistent and easy to use - what you learn in one  
application is immediately usable in another. The context-sensitive help  
works across all applications, unobtrusively providing the precise help  
you need. You can even open any type of document from any application -  
OpenOffice is really one piece of software. It also runs on all major  
computing platforms - Microsoft Windows, GNU/Linux, Sun Solaris, Apple  
Mac - isn't that great!
+历经二十余年开发,Apache  
OpenOffice是一款成熟可靠的产品。OpenOffice是从单一的一体软件为设计起点——而不是将来自不同地方的软件包囫囵拼装到一起。这使它非常一致并易于使用——你在一个应用中学到的能够立即应用到另一个应用。在所有应用中都有基于上下文的帮助,恰到好处地为你提供所需的精确帮助信息。你甚至可以在任何一个应用中打开任何一种类型的文档——这就叫一体软件。并且它可以在所有主要计算机平台上运行——微软视窗、GNU/Linux、Sun  
Solaris、苹果Mac——是不是很棒!

-  - **Better for you**
+  - **更适合你**
-Apache OpenOffice contains all the office software you need, in one  
single package. You don't have to worry which version to install: one  
installation program provides everything. The installation also includes  
features which some expensive rivals do not - for example, the ability  
to create .pdf files when you want to guarantee what the recipient sees  
on their computer. There is also a growing range of extensions:  
additional features that any developer can provide. The Apache  
OpenOffice project releases software several times a year so you can  
take advantage of new features as quickly as possible.
+Apache  
OpenOffice在一个单一软件包中包含了所有你需要的办公软件。你不必苦恼于应选择安装什么:一个安装程序就包含了所有应用。所安装的内容中还包含一些那些昂贵的竞争对手所没有的功能——比如,创建pdf文件的功能,使你能够确保文件接收者可以在它们的机器上浏览你的文件。而大量的扩展包提供了许多额外的功能,这样的扩展包来自不同的开发者,而且还在不断增加。Apache  
OpenOffice项目每年会发布多个版本,这样你就能够尽快享受到新的功能。

-  - **Honest software**
+  - **诚信软件**
-Apache OpenOffice is developed using an open-software, no secrets  
approach. Anyone can look at the programs and suggest improvements, or  
fix bugs. Anyone can report problems or request enhancements, and anyone  
can see the response from other users or developers. The status of  
current and future releases is displayed on a public wiki, so you can  
decide if and when you want to upgrade to take advantage of new  
features. Anyone used to commercial software and its hyping and  
marketing speak will find Apache OpenOffice refreshingly different.  
Enjoy the benefits of open-source!
+Apache  
OpenOffice是使用开放软件开发的,遵循“没有秘密”的方式。任何人都可以查看这个项目并提出改进建议或修复缺陷。任何人都可以报告问题或者提出功能增强的要求,并看到来自其他用户或开发员的反馈。当前和未来版本都在wiki页面公布,这样你就可以决定是否想升级以利用新功能,何时升级。所有习惯于商业软件和相关市场宣传和广告的人都会发现Apache  
OpenOffice完全不同。享受开源之美吧!

Re: CMS diff: Why Apache OpenOffice: Free software

2012-08-12 Thread Michal Hriň

This one too,
Thanks.

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-Title: Why Apache OpenOffice: Free software
+Title: 为何选择Apache OpenOffice:免费软件
 Notice:Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
distributed with this work for additional information
@@ -16,18 +16,18 @@
specific language governing permissions and limitations
under the License.
-![Why Apache OpenOffice: Free software](/why/images/why_free.png) #  
{.rfloatimg}
+![为何选择Apache OpenOffice:免费软件](/why/images/why_free.png) #  
{.rfloatimg}
-Apache OpenOffice is free software. That means you are free to download  
it, free to install it on as many PCs as you like, free to pass copies  
to as many people as you like. You may use OpenOffice for any purpose  
without restriction: private, educational, public administration,  
commercial... Free, really free.
+Apache  
OpenOffice是一款免费软件。这意味着你可以免费下载,免费安装到任意数量的电脑上,随意将这款软件复制给其他人。你可以将OpenOffice使用于任何目的而无限制:个人,教育,公务,商务……真正的免费,真正的自由。

-  - **Free of charge**
+  - **没有费用**
-It's hard to believe that high quality, easy to use software like  
Apache OpenOffice can really be free. But thanks to contributions of  
time and money, from individuals and companies (large and small),  
OpenOffice is free for you to use today. Furthermore, the open-source  
licence used by OpenOffice means this freedom can never be taken away.  
The OpenOffice community are delighted if you find our software of use.  
Please help us by telling people about Apache OpenOffice, and if you  
can, pass them on a copy. More people use OpenOffice as a result of  
personal recommendation than any other route.
+很难相信象Apache  
OpenOffice这样的高质量、易用软件会是真正免费的。但要感谢那些个人与公司(无论大小)的贡献者所投入的精力与资金,OpenOffice如今可以供你免费自由使用。而且,OpenOffice所使用的开源协议保证了这种使用的自由永远不会被剥夺。请帮助我们将Apache  
OpenOffice告诉更多的人,而且如果可以,给他们一份拷贝。因为相对于其它途径,更多的人是因为他人的推荐而使用OpenOffice的。

-  - **Freedom from worry**
+  - **免除顾虑**
-However, a free software licence means much more than a one-off  
cost saving. It means you never need worry again whether your software  
is legal, or whether it will expire some day. For people responsible for  
a number of computers - from just a few in a small business, hundreds in  
a school, thousands in a corporation - this is a huge weight off the  
mind. No need for software audits, for keeping invoices for years, no  
worry about ending up in court because you misread some small print in a  
licence agreement.
+ 
并且,一个免费的软件协议所意味的不仅仅是一次花费的节省。它意味着你永远不用再担心你的软件是否合法,或者它是否会在某一天过期。对于那些负责多台计算机——从小公司的几台,到学校的几百台,到一个大型企业的几千台——的人来说,这真是大大省了心了。不用进行软件审查,不用把发票存好几年,不必担心因为误读了许可协议中某一小段而最后上法庭。

-  - **We value your freedom**
+  - **自由选择**
-As part of a community dedicated to free software, we also value  
your freedom of choice. Apache OpenOffice will read and write files  
which can be used in other common office software. It was the first  
software in the world to fully support the ISO standard for office file  
formats which is being adopted by a growing number of software vendors.  
If you want to use other software, we want you to be free to do so. If  
you want to change your PC from Microsoft Windows to Apple Mac to Linux,  
we want you to be free to do so. If you like this approach, feel free to  
join the Apache OpenOffice community.
+作为致力于免费软件的社区,我们同样为你选择的自由而努力。Apache  
OpenOffice可以读写同样能够被其它常用办公软件使用的文件。它是世界上第一个完全支持ISO办公文件格式标准的软件,而这一标准正在被越来越多的软件商所支持。如果你想使用其它软件,我们希望你可以毫无困难地做到。如果你想把自己的电脑从微软视窗改变到苹果Mac或Linux,我们希望你可以毫无困难地做到。如果你喜欢这个主意,来加入Apache  
OpenOffice社区吧。

Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti

imacat wrote:

Well, see the attachment. ^_*'


Nice! And interesting too (yes, the guy purportedly did everything by 
hand, pixel by pixel, see the explanation video link sent by Rob).


So there is definitely room for a contest or a conference presentation 
about this...


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread imacat
I've uploaded a simple initial release.  You are welcome to help me
improve it.

http://sf.net/projects/calcmosaic/

It's not that difficult.  Only 4 hundred lines.

On 2012/08/12 18:24, Andrea Pescetti said:
 imacat wrote:
 Well, see the attachment. ^_*'
 Nice! And interesting too (yes, the guy purportedly did everything by
 hand, pixel by pixel, see the explanation video link sent by Rob).

   I saw that. ^^;  That's where I started.

 So there is definitely room for a contest or a conference presentation
 about this...

I'm thinking about changing the topic in the local upcoming
conference next week.  But I might need traffic and accommodation
sponsorship if I want to submit it to ApacheCon EU by tomorrow.

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Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread imacat
I had posted a video reply:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJXYPG-5Bc

I do not know why it did not show in the reply of the original
video.  This is my first time to reply by video, though. ^^;

On 2012/08/12 19:17, imacat said:
 I've uploaded a simple initial release.  You are welcome to help me
 improve it.
 
 http://sf.net/projects/calcmosaic/
 
 It's not that difficult.  Only 4 hundred lines.
 
 On 2012/08/12 18:24, Andrea Pescetti said:
 imacat wrote:
 Well, see the attachment. ^_*'
 Nice! And interesting too (yes, the guy purportedly did everything by
 hand, pixel by pixel, see the explanation video link sent by Rob).
 
I saw that. ^^;  That's where I started.
 
 So there is definitely room for a contest or a conference presentation
 about this...
 
 I'm thinking about changing the topic in the local upcoming
 conference next week.  But I might need traffic and accommodation
 sponsorship if I want to submit it to ApacheCon EU by tomorrow.
 


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Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi,

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:55 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 I had posted a video reply:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJXYPG-5Bc

you could use recordmydesktop / gtk-recordmydesktop /
qt-recordmydesktop to capture your desktop.

Regards


Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi imacat,

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:17 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 I've uploaded a simple initial release.  You are welcome to help me
 improve it.

 http://sf.net/projects/calcmosaic/

you are using some Java API. A nice idea would trying to do everything
with AOO API, so that the same example can then be written in AOO
Basic, PyUNO, etc.
That said, I can't guarantee you'll find everything you need, but in
any case this is a good chance to ask for AOO API enhancements.

Regards


Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI

 I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is selling
 copies of OO.


There is no rule against selling open source software.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

FC
-- 
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act
Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto
Revolucionario
- George Orwell


Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:55 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 I had posted a video reply:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJXYPG-5Bc

 I do not know why it did not show in the reply of the original
 video.  This is my first time to reply by video, though. ^^;


Awesome!

Are you able to do it with the AOO logo:
http://people.apache.org/~robweir/img2calc/logo-200x200.png

That is 200x200 pixels.  Is that too large?

-Rob


 On 2012/08/12 19:17, imacat said:
 I've uploaded a simple initial release.  You are welcome to help me
 improve it.

 http://sf.net/projects/calcmosaic/

 It's not that difficult.  Only 4 hundred lines.

 On 2012/08/12 18:24, Andrea Pescetti said:
 imacat wrote:
 Well, see the attachment. ^_*'
 Nice! And interesting too (yes, the guy purportedly did everything by
 hand, pixel by pixel, see the explanation video link sent by Rob).

I saw that. ^^;  That's where I started.

 So there is definitely room for a contest or a conference presentation
 about this...

 I'm thinking about changing the topic in the local upcoming
 conference next week.  But I might need traffic and accommodation
 sponsorship if I want to submit it to ApacheCon EU by tomorrow.



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Re: CMS diff: Why Apache OpenOffice: Free software

2012-08-12 Thread Shenfeng Liu
I verified the 2 pages to be correct. Thanks, Michal!

- Shenfeng


2012/8/12 Michal Hri�� michalh...@aol.com

 This one too,
 Thanks.

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 Regards,

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 napísal:


  Clone URL (Committers only):
 https://cms.apache.org/**redirect?new=anonymous;action=**
 diff;uri=http://ooo-site.**apache.org/zh-cn%2Fwhy%2Fwhy_**free.mdtexthttps://cms.apache.org/redirect?new=anonymous;action=diff;uri=http://ooo-site.apache.org/zh-cn%2Fwhy%2Fwhy_free.mdtext

 Shenfeng Liu

 Index: trunk/content/zh-cn/why/why_**free.mdtext
 ==**==**===
 --- trunk/content/zh-cn/why/why_**free.mdtext (revision 1372039)
 +++ trunk/content/zh-cn/why/why_**free.mdtext (working copy)
 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
 -Title: Why Apache OpenOffice: Free software
 +Title: 为何选择Apache OpenOffice:免费软件
  Notice:Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one
 or more contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file
 distributed with this work for additional information
 @@ -16,18 +16,18 @@
 specific language governing permissions and limitations
 under the License.
 -![Why Apache OpenOffice: Free software](/why/images/why_**free.png) #
 {.rfloatimg}
 +![为何选择Apache OpenOffice:免费软件](/why/images/**why_free.png) # {.rfloatimg}
 -Apache OpenOffice is free software. That means you are free to download
 it, free to install it on as many PCs as you like, free to pass copies to
 as many people as you like. You may use OpenOffice for any purpose without
 restriction: private, educational, public administration, commercial...
 Free, really free.
 +Apache OpenOffice是一款免费软件。这意味着你可以免费下载,**免费安装到任意数量的电脑上,随意将这款软件复制给其他人。**
 你可以将OpenOffice使用于任何目的而无限制:个人,**教育,公务,商务……真正的免费,真正的自由。
 -  - **Free of charge**
 +  - **没有费用**
 -It's hard to believe that high quality, easy to use software like
 Apache OpenOffice can really be free. But thanks to contributions of time
 and money, from individuals and companies (large and small), OpenOffice is
 free for you to use today. Furthermore, the open-source licence used by
 OpenOffice means this freedom can never be taken away. The OpenOffice
 community are delighted if you find our software of use. Please help us by
 telling people about Apache OpenOffice, and if you can, pass them on a
 copy. More people use OpenOffice as a result of personal recommendation
 than any other route.
 +很难相信象Apache OpenOffice这样的高质量、易用软件会是真正免费的。**但要感谢那些个人与公司(无论大小)**
 的贡献者所投入的精力与资金,**OpenOffice如今可以供你免费自由使用。而且,**
 OpenOffice所使用的开源协议保证了这种使用的自由永远**不会被剥夺。请帮助我们将Apache
 OpenOffice告诉更多的人,而且如果可以,**给他们一份拷贝。因为相对于其它途径,**更多的人是因为他人的推荐而使用OpenOffice的。
 -  - **Freedom from worry**
 +  - **免除顾虑**
 -However, a free software licence means much more than a one-off cost
 saving. It means you never need worry again whether your software is legal,
 or whether it will expire some day. For people responsible for a number of
 computers - from just a few in a small business, hundreds in a school,
 thousands in a corporation - this is a huge weight off the mind. No need
 for software audits, for keeping invoices for years, no worry about ending
 up in court because you misread some small print in a licence agreement.
 +并且,一个免费的软件协议所意味的不仅仅是一次花费的节省。**它意味着你永远不用再担心你的软件是否合法,**
 或者它是否会在某一天过期。对于那些负责多台计算机――**从小公司的几台,到学校的几百台,到一个大型企业的几千台――**
 的人来说,这真是大大省了心了。不用进行软件审查,**不用把发票存好几年,**不必担心因为误读了许可协议中某一小段而最后上法庭。
 -  - **We value your freedom**
 +  - **自由选择**
 -As part of a community dedicated to free software, we also value
 your freedom of choice. Apache OpenOffice will read and write files which
 can be used in other common office software. It was the first software in
 the world to fully support the ISO standard for office file formats which
 is being adopted by a growing number of software vendors. If you want to
 use other software, we want you to be free to do so. If you want to change
 your PC from Microsoft Windows to Apple Mac to Linux, we want you to be
 free to do so. If you like this approach, feel free to join the Apache
 OpenOffice community.
 +作为致力于免费软件的社区,我们同样为你选择的自由而努力。**Apache OpenOffice可以读写同样能够被其它常用办公软件使用的*
 *文件。它是世界上第一个完全支持ISO办公文件格式标准的软件,**而这一标准正在被越来越多的软件商所支持。**
 如果你想使用其它软件,我们希望你可以毫无困难地做到。**如果你想把自己的电脑从微软视窗改变到苹果Mac或Linux,**
 我们希望你可以毫无困难地做到。如果你喜欢这个主意,**来加入Apache OpenOffice社区吧。




Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread imacat
On 2012/08/12 21:34, Rob Weir said:
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:55 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 I had posted a video reply:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJXYPG-5Bc

 I do not know why it did not show in the reply of the original
 video.  This is my first time to reply by video, though. ^^;

 
 Awesome!
 
 Are you able to do it with the AOO logo:
 http://people.apache.org/~robweir/img2calc/logo-200x200.png

Sure, why not?  ^_*'  See the attachment.

 That is 200x200 pixels.  Is that too large?

Size does not matter. ^_*'

 
 -Rob
 
 
 On 2012/08/12 19:17, imacat said:
 I've uploaded a simple initial release.  You are welcome to help me
 improve it.

 http://sf.net/projects/calcmosaic/

 It's not that difficult.  Only 4 hundred lines.

 On 2012/08/12 18:24, Andrea Pescetti said:
 imacat wrote:
 Well, see the attachment. ^_*'
 Nice! And interesting too (yes, the guy purportedly did everything by
 hand, pixel by pixel, see the explanation video link sent by Rob).

I saw that. ^^;  That's where I started.

 So there is definitely room for a contest or a conference presentation
 about this...

 I'm thinking about changing the topic in the local upcoming
 conference next week.  But I might need traffic and accommodation
 sponsorship if I want to submit it to ApacheCon EU by tomorrow.



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Re: 3.4.1_release_blocker requested: [Bug 120501] Starting OpenOffice with -nodefault parameter should not open the StartCenter

2012-08-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi,

On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile
arie...@apache.org wrote:
  I will request release blocker status, so that the fix gets included in the
  next release.
  This isn't really a release blocker, but the fix is very trivial and it 
  has no
  risk at all. On the other hand, Programmability should always be a top 
  priority
  in Apache OpenOffice, because it is a way to develop custom solutions on 
  top of
  Apache OpenOffice binary release without the need to rebuild from source 
  code
  nor hack it around. And as the reporter says, this bug is rather annoying.
 
 

 even trivial fixes are tricky sometimes. Do we have the fix in place and can 
 we do some code review?

 I commit it on trunk:
 http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1371665
 The bug is far from making AOO absolutely unusuable.

Some background information, as I was told that I (1) was quoted on
another bugzilla (2). Looking at all the German names, it looks like
most of them come from the WollMux people from München's LiMux project
(3). I couldn't find information if they are still using
OpenOffice.org, or if they have migrated to LO, or are planning to do
so with Apache OpenOffice, Google search shows most results for OOo
and WollMux.

Any way it does not seem a good idea to make API users wait until the
next release to have this bug fixed. You can see this bug annoyance by
running the SDK examples

openoffice.org/basis3.4/sdk/examples/DevelopersGuide/FirstSteps
openoffice.org/basis3.4/sdk/examples/DevelopersGuide/OfficeBean

and even using the NB plug-in: in a new AOO Component Project,
bootstrapping to fill the tree with types opens the Start Center too.


Regards

(1) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120501#c2
(2) https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42470#c14
(3) http://www.muenchen.de/Rathaus/dir/limux/english/index.html
Amongs other, see http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux


Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread imacat
On 2012/08/12 21:13, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
 Hi imacat,
 
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:17 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 I've uploaded a simple initial release.  You are welcome to help me
 improve it.

 http://sf.net/projects/calcmosaic/
 
 you are using some Java API. A nice idea would trying to do everything
 with AOO API, so that the same example can then be written in AOO
 Basic, PyUNO, etc.
 That said, I can't guarantee you'll find everything you need, but in
 any case this is a good chance to ask for AOO API enhancements.

No, that's currently impossible.  Actually I'm not good at
OpenOffice source, but at client UNO API application.  I studied it long
ago.  And I doubt if that is any useful.

If Java can do it better, why not?  I'm not using Java because I
love Java, but because I can link to the whole Java SDK and everything
else.  I had even created an Android App using UNO API earlier this
year.  Will UNO API does that everything else (including the Android
library), too?  I'm afraid that is not necessary, and is not possible.
The same goes for Python, C++, too.

Besides, UNO API is slow.  UNO API constantly serializes mass amount
of objects in and out through network socket.  I can save this if I only
does the necessary parts with UNO API, but leave other object exchange
within a same Java process.

And UNO API is tedious.  The UNO type casting and exception handling
sucks.  (Read my code.)  If I do everything with UNO API (if that is
possible), I might not finish it in 400 lines and by now, and it makes
others more difficult to read the code.

I believe OpenOffice Basic tried to do everything before, but
failed.  It is fine to keep it as it is.

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Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread Wolf Halton
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  FYI
 
  I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is
 selling
  copies of OO.
 

 There is no rule against selling open source software.

 http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html

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 Revolucionario
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The oddity is that they are not using the proper versioning so the software
may just be playing off the name OpenOffice.org

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Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com wrote:

 FYI

 I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is selling
 copies of OO.


 ebay user: allsorts-est-2011

 auction


 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026


This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
trademark requirements.

This bit at the bottom --

*Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the GNU
Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*

well let's hope it's right.

see also, our local Distribution FAQ--

http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/

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Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread Max Merbald

Hi,

I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is 
available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make 
money with something which is available for free.


Max


Am 12.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com wrote:


FYI

I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is selling
copies of OO.


ebay user: allsorts-est-2011

auction


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026


This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
trademark requirements.

This bit at the bottom --

*Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the GNU
Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*

well let's hope it's right.

see also, our local Distribution FAQ--

http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/





Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread sebb
On 12 August 2012 17:38, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is
 available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make money
 with something which is available for free.

The page does actually say (near the bottom)

Please note that this software is a very good application and can be
downloaded free from the internet

However it does not link to the ASF, nor does it mention Apache.

Note: OOo itself is free, however Internet access is generally not free.
There may be people who prefer to pay for a CD rather than download software.

 Max


 Am 12.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Kay Schenk:

 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 FYI

 I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is
 selling
 copies of OO.


 ebay user: allsorts-est-2011

 auction



 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026

 This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
 OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
 trademark requirements.

 This bit at the bottom --

 *Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the
 GNU
 Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*

 well let's hope it's right.

 see also, our local Distribution FAQ--

 http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/




Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is
 available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make money
 with something which is available for free.


I wonder... is there anything that prevents one of us from offering
the same thing on eBay, but at a near-zero price?  For example, would
it be within eBay policy to have an auction for instructions for
downloading OpenOffice?  Give all the same marketing plugs for
features, etc., but set it as a Buy Now price of 1-cent or
something.

Some users want a CD, because of bandwidth limitations.  But the cost
of information, in this case, should be nearly zero.

-Rob


 Max


 Am 12.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Kay Schenk:

 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 FYI

 I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is
 selling
 copies of OO.


 ebay user: allsorts-est-2011

 auction



 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026

 This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
 OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
 trademark requirements.

 This bit at the bottom --

 *Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the
 GNU
 Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*

 well let's hope it's right.

 see also, our local Distribution FAQ--

 http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/




Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread drew
On Sun, 2012-08-12 at 13:49 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is
  available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make money
  with something which is available for free.
 
 
 I wonder... is there anything that prevents one of us from offering
 the same thing on eBay, but at a near-zero price?  For example, would
 it be within eBay policy to have an auction for instructions for
 downloading OpenOffice?  Give all the same marketing plugs for
 features, etc., but set it as a Buy Now price of 1-cent or
 something.
 
 Some users want a CD, because of bandwidth limitations.  But the cost
 of information, in this case, should be nearly zero.
 
 -Rob

Hi Rob,

TTBOMK the rules are: 
- Selling a CD/DVD or any physical media is allowed on eBay 
- Selling a link to download software is not allowed 
likely then this would fall afoul of their policies.

It's a good idea though.

//drew

 
 
  Max
 
 
  Am 12.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Kay Schenk:
 
  On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  FYI
 
  I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is
  selling
  copies of OO.
 
 
  ebay user: allsorts-est-2011
 
  auction
 
 
 
  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026
 
  This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
  OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
  trademark requirements.
 
  This bit at the bottom --
 
  *Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the
  GNU
  Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*
 
  well let's hope it's right.
 
  see also, our local Distribution FAQ--
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/
 
 
 




Re: Yes. You can do this with OpenOffice. (MysteryGuitarMan video with OpenOffice Mac)

2012-08-12 Thread imacat
On 2012/08/12 21:08, Ariel Constenla-Haile said:
 Hi,
 
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:55 AM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote:
 I had posted a video reply:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJXYPG-5Bc
 
 you could use recordmydesktop / gtk-recordmydesktop /
 qt-recordmydesktop to capture your desktop.

Thank you.  I tried to use gtk-recordMyDesktop to record a new video:

http://youtu.be/8Nyp7xUBXto

Strange that the sound is not recorded. ^^;

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spell checker

2012-08-12 Thread Phil Hocott
Since I downloaded the apache version of open office my spelling and gramer 
doesn't work properly so I found an old copy of open office 3.1.0 and 
downloaded it and everything is fine.
Phil Hocott

Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is
  available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make
 money
  with something which is available for free.
 

 I wonder... is there anything that prevents one of us from offering
 the same thing on eBay, but at a near-zero price?  For example, would
 it be within eBay policy to have an auction for instructions for
 downloading OpenOffice?  Give all the same marketing plugs for
 features, etc., but set it as a Buy Now price of 1-cent or
 something.

 Some users want a CD, because of bandwidth limitations.  But the cost
 of information, in this case, should be nearly zero.

 -Rob


You might want to check out seller requirements first...

 http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/sell-requirements.html

I would think if we're willing to do this -- and set this up somehow, the
answer is no unless ASF precludes this, which it might.



  Max
 
 
  Am 12.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Kay Schenk:
 
  On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  FYI
 
  I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is
  selling
  copies of OO.
 
 
  ebay user: allsorts-est-2011
 
  auction
 
 
 
 
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026
 
  This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
  OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
  trademark requirements.
 
  This bit at the bottom --
 
  *Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the
  GNU
  Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*
 
  well let's hope it's right.
 
  see also, our local Distribution FAQ--
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/
 
 




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--
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Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is
  available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make
 money
  with something which is available for free.
 

 I wonder... is there anything that prevents one of us from offering
 the same thing on eBay, but at a near-zero price?  For example, would
 it be within eBay policy to have an auction for instructions for
 downloading OpenOffice?  Give all the same marketing plugs for
 features, etc., but set it as a Buy Now price of 1-cent or
 something.

 Some users want a CD, because of bandwidth limitations.  But the cost
 of information, in this case, should be nearly zero.

 -Rob


 You might want to check out seller requirements first...

  http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/sell-requirements.html

 I would think if we're willing to do this -- and set this up somehow, the
 answer is no unless ASF precludes this, which it might.


Drew mentioned another eBay policy that said you could not sell access
to downloaded software.  You could only sell the media.

Looking at the ebay auctions, some of them seem reasonable.  $3 or $5
for a CD and packaging, shipping, etc., is not outrageous.

But I am concerned that several of the auctions seem to be selling old
versions of OpenOffice including 3.2 and 3.1.  These earlier versions
lack important security fixes and those who distribute old versions,
without a warning, are putting their customers at risk.

As a project we take great pains to ensure the users who download from
our website get authentic versions of our software, the latest
versions, not tampered with.  We give the downloader ways of verifying
this, with MD5 hashes and PGP signatures.

But there is no current way that we can offer similar assurances to
users who purchase a CD.  (Anyone who thinks users will verify
checksums or signatures on a CD is deluded.)

Our options:

1) Do nothing.  Bandwidth and access is increasing and this problem
will solve itself...sometime.

2) Define voluntary requirements for distributors of OpenOffice.
Those who agree to these requirements would be allowed use of a
special logo and would be listed on our website.

3) One or more community members, acting outside of Apache, could
organize to sell CD's on eBay at cost, and have eBay auction listings
that are upfront and honest, explaining that the software is open
source and can be downloaded for free.  We can give the URL right in
the listing.  We would make it clear that the charge is only for
convenience of having a CD delivered.



  Max
 
 
  Am 12.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Kay Schenk:
 
  On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  FYI
 
  I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is
  selling
  copies of OO.
 
 
  ebay user: allsorts-est-2011
 
  auction
 
 
 
 
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026
 
  This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
  OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
  trademark requirements.
 
  This bit at the bottom --
 
  *Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the
  GNU
  Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*
 
  well let's hope it's right.
 
  see also, our local Distribution FAQ--
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/
 
 




 --
 
 MzK

 Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think.
 --
 Niels Bohr


Re: OO Sold on eBay

2012-08-12 Thread sebb
On 13 August 2012 01:29, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:49 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Max Merbald max.merb...@gmx.de wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'd say it's not very fair because probably not everyone knows OOO is
  available for free. It's kind of weird that someone is trying to make
 money
  with something which is available for free.
 

 I wonder... is there anything that prevents one of us from offering
 the same thing on eBay, but at a near-zero price?  For example, would
 it be within eBay policy to have an auction for instructions for
 downloading OpenOffice?  Give all the same marketing plugs for
 features, etc., but set it as a Buy Now price of 1-cent or
 something.

 Some users want a CD, because of bandwidth limitations.  But the cost
 of information, in this case, should be nearly zero.

 -Rob


 You might want to check out seller requirements first...

  http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/questions/sell-requirements.html

 I would think if we're willing to do this -- and set this up somehow, the
 answer is no unless ASF precludes this, which it might.


 Drew mentioned another eBay policy that said you could not sell access
 to downloaded software.  You could only sell the media.

 Looking at the ebay auctions, some of them seem reasonable.  $3 or $5
 for a CD and packaging, shipping, etc., is not outrageous.

 But I am concerned that several of the auctions seem to be selling old
 versions of OpenOffice including 3.2 and 3.1.  These earlier versions
 lack important security fixes and those who distribute old versions,
 without a warning, are putting their customers at risk.

 As a project we take great pains to ensure the users who download from
 our website get authentic versions of our software, the latest
 versions, not tampered with.  We give the downloader ways of verifying
 this, with MD5 hashes and PGP signatures.

 But there is no current way that we can offer similar assurances to
 users who purchase a CD.  (Anyone who thinks users will verify
 checksums or signatures on a CD is deluded.)

 Our options:

 1) Do nothing.  Bandwidth and access is increasing and this problem
 will solve itself...sometime.

 2) Define voluntary requirements for distributors of OpenOffice.
 Those who agree to these requirements would be allowed use of a
 special logo and would be listed on our website.

 3) One or more community members, acting outside of Apache, could
 organize to sell CD's on eBay at cost, and have eBay auction listings
 that are upfront and honest, explaining that the software is open
 source and can be downloaded for free.  We can give the URL right in
 the listing.  We would make it clear that the charge is only for
 convenience of having a CD delivered.

Is it worth approaching eBay with our concerns?
- ensuring that sellers credit (and link to) the ASF
- ensuring that sellers provide clear information on the version supplied
- ensuring that sellers provide the current version.
- etc.

Note: the seller page mentioned in this thread says:


Open Office 3.3
...
* This is the very latest version and fully updated.


That would be a good example of one of our concerns.



  Max
 
 
  Am 12.08.2012 18:19, schrieb Kay Schenk:
 
  On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:48 AM, dan roch dan.gum.tree...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  FYI
 
  I don't know if this goes agaist OO rules but this user on eBay is
  selling
  copies of OO.
 
 
  ebay user: allsorts-est-2011
 
  auction
 
 
 
 
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Office-for-Home-and-Student-2007-2010-2012-For-Microsoft-Windows-XP-Vista-7-/110922521399?pt=UK_Computing_Software_Software_SRhash=item19d37f5b37#ht_8329wt_1026
 
  This has come up before...there is no issue with selling ANY copy of
  OpenOffice (old or new) as long as the vendor complies with licensing or
  trademark requirements.
 
  This bit at the bottom --
 
  *Items contained on this CD are under the terms of the GNU License, the
  GNU
  Lesser General Public Licences (LPGL) or the Mozilla Public Licence*
 
  well let's hope it's right.
 
  see also, our local Distribution FAQ--
 
  http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/
 
 




 --
 
 MzK

 Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think.
 --
 Niels Bohr


[DISCUSS] OpenOffice Track: ApacheCon Europe

2012-08-12 Thread Donald Harbison
By now everyone must be aware that the CFP system will be closing tomorrow,
August 13th. We'll have an idea of what was submitted this week. In the
meantime, let's have a discussion about how we want to shape our track
beyond those proposals.

Here's an outline to get the discussion moving...

REMEMBER, this is our conference track to shape was we wish. We have a fair
amount of flexibility within the overall framework of ApacheCon. At this
point, let's conceive of this as a 2-day affair nested within the 4 days of
ApacheCon.

Keynote(s)
a) PMC Chair (let's plan on graduation as a fact by early November, so we
would ask our Chair to anchor the track keynote
b) I/T Leader responsible for OpenOffice user communities
c)


Meetups with other projects:
a) Shindig/Rave
b) Chemistry
c) POI,Tika, PDFbox
d) ...

Hackathons
-- topics?

Social
a) Fora
b) National community groups: ...

Other Topics?


Re: request for enchancement of the define name function in calc

2012-08-12 Thread shzh zhao
I think it is a formula issue and not belong to name scope range.

2012/8/10 Jianyuan Li lijianyuan1...@gmail.com

 Hi, Wang Lei,

 Below is my clarification for issue
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119565. Comment is also
 added
 in Bugzilla.

 In Excel 2003 define a defined name as
 =Sheet1!$D$3:$D$5,Sheet1!$B$3:$B$5. In this defined name, a union
 operator(Excel uses , and AOO uses ~) is used to form a union area.
 This defined name will be passed into a formula SUM. Import them in AOO, by
 Excel 2003 filter the union operator will be translated into ; which is
 an old union operator. And SUM will take it as a parameter separator. So
 the SUM result seems correct while it is not in AOO.
 Union operator should be set as ~ in defined name in AOO. But a fix in
 Excel 2003 filter is not reasonable because:
 1. Defined name with union(OO uses ;) created in lower version
 OO(OOo2.4.3) still cannot be imported correctly even if a fix is patched in
 Excel 2003 filter.
 2. I have checked this formula =SUM((B3:B5,D3:D5))(union directly used)
 created in Excel 2003. It will be imported as =SUM((B3:B5~D3:D5)) which
 is correct. While Excel 2003 filter still imports the union as ;. But as
 last it is ~. Core function must does something which a hint to fix union
 issue in defined name.

 So please take consideration for it in the enhancement.


 Regards,
 Jianyuan

 2012/8/8 Lei Wang lei.wang.l...@gmail.com

  Hi Regina
 
  I saw your comments in
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120478
 
  It is glad to know that ODF1.2 support sheet scoped defined name. It is
  very important to comply with ODF1.2. So our plan will be changed to
  Step 1, support interoperability with sheet scoped defined name in Excel.
  Because the solution is ready. it is our first priority.
  Step 2, support loading and saving ods file for sheet scoped defined
 name.
  We will put it in our AOO3.5 plan.
  Step 3, support create sheet scoped defined name in GUI in AOO.
 
  On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
  wrote:
 
   Hi shzh zhao,
  
   there is no need for modifying ODF, named-expressions with scope on one
   sheet are already specified and LibreOffice reads and writes such
  documents.
  
   I think the order should be the other way round. First make AOO read
 and
   write such named-expressions in ODF and then improve the import and
  export
   filter.
  
   Kind regards
   Regina
  
   shzh zhao schrieb:
  
hi,
  
   here is an interoperability issue in Aoo.
   When loading VBA that contains defined name in Aoo, the names are
  changed
   to a new one if the name is limited
   in a worksheet in MS office.This will cause big problem.
  
   After my investigation,I found it is an limitation of Aoo. Because MS
   Excel
   2003 can support worksheet scope defined name. but it can't be set in
  UI.
   and Excel 2007 can define duplicate name for different sheet in its
 name
   manager dialog.
   When AOO loading a xlsx/xls file which has duplicated defined name,
 AOO
   will only change the name to a unique one. But any other place which
  uses
   the defined name is not changed, this is the root cause.
  
   this enchancement will be completed in 2 steps.
   in Currently step, just focus on the interoperability of MS defined
   name.,and not modify the ODF file format.
  
   if MS office defined range names with a sheet or a work book,import it
  in
   Aoo,
   make the name of work book in the original,but with a flag of global
   name,for example,the name is Name_1,it will be Name_1 as before in
   the define name dialog.
   make the name of work sheet to the original,but with a flag of sheet
   name,for
   example,the name is Name_1,it will be Name_1 (sheet 1) in the
 define
   name
   dialog if the name is defined in the sheet 1.
  
   here is the issue link:
   https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=120478
  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120478
  
  
  
 




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Re: Extensions and Templates New Features

2012-08-12 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:17 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 2012/8/9 Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net:
  Below what's new, I also blogged about that at SourceForge blog.
 
  1) Download statistics are now automatically obtained via the
  SourceForge API and are more reliable than the old system, in which
  the counters had been turned off and remained stuck for a long time
  due to inaccuracies in the counting procedures and incompatibilities
  with cache system. By the way, the SourceForge API is the same system
  used for the official Apache OpenOffice counter downloads.
  Additionally, since we can’t calculate statistics for externally
  hosted extensions as reliably, their download counters have been
  removed and they won’t appear in the “Most Popular Extensions”
  listings. This is also the case for Commercial extensions with no
  public releases. Note that the default home page of the Extensions
  site has been set back to Most Popular Extensions, as we believe
  that newcomers would probably benefit from having the top extensions
  in the home page. To provide visitors only meaningful statistics, the
  daily download numbers have been replaced by a link to a timeline with
  real-time statistics, charts and analysis.
 
  2) The new antispam system is now online on the Extensions site. We’ve
  tested it extensively. Since the live site receives up to 50 spam
  submissions per day it was pretty easy to figure out if it was working
  properly. It has been in operation for over a week and so far has
  proved very effective. For end-users this means meaningful comments
  are more visible and the possibility of adding comments if needed
  (something we had to temporarily block for some titles because of the
  spam).
 
  3) We updated the graphic theme of the site and the primary links to
  reflect the new name and new logo for Apache OpenOffice. In this way
  visitors can more easily identify these sites as the official
  repositories of OpenOffice Extensions and Templates, and they can be
  confident that they are still maintained.
 
  Roberto


 Great news! The spam disappeared from the site.


It seems to work pretty well, glad you noticed!



 A quick question: which is the best way for an user to report problems
 found on the site?


Actually the Contact us link at the bottom of the page brings the user to
a page suggesting to contact the Forum, the author or SourceForge community
team respectively for General questions about this website or
extensions/templates, A particular extension/template and Technical
questions regarding this website.

For some reasons we receive few emails posing questions about the
extensions/templates, I tend to reply if I know the answer, otherwise I
suggest them to use the forum.

Roberto




 Regards
 Ricardo


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