[PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread imacat
Dear all,

I would like to propose setting up three official Apache OpenOffice
social media accounts for the Taiwan local community:

 1. I would like to set up the Facebook group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ooo.tw/

as the official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan Facebook users' group.  It
is a Facebook group started since 2010/12, and is the current Facebook
group for our local community.

 2. I would also like to set up an official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan
Plurk account, too (whether @apacheoo or @apacheootw is not decided
yet.)  Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service here in Taiwan,
and is even more active than Facebook.

 3. I do not know if this is appropriate.  I would like to set up an
official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan blog.  That may be apacheoo-tw on
blogspot.  It shall contain Apache OpenOffice announcements, as well as
local news.  Please tell me if there are other suggestions on this.


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Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread Shane Curcuru
It's great to see so many volunteers working at setting up social media 
accounts for the podling in various cultures.  I'm definitely +1 for 
PPMC members working on the lists to setup new accounts - presuming that 
we also have the volunteers to put some relevant content on them.  It 
sounds like imacat will do just fine on this one.  8-)


Given the likely increase in these requests, I hope to have some more 
detailed best practices and a few requirements for social media accounts 
that are labeled as official; i.e. are run by the project itself (versus 
the many other accounts run by individuals about our projects).


Basic guidelines would include:

- (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists, 
great!


- PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully 
administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members 
being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement 
at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing 
other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.


- A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever 
noting that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.


- A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key 
way that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could 
speak for the project or not.  I.e. any official accounts the PPMC 
approves and manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our 
website.  Any other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our 
website we can let users know which ones we run versus third parties.


Comments on these guidelines?

- Shane

On 2012-05-06 11:05 AM, imacat wrote:

Dear all,

 I would like to propose setting up three official Apache OpenOffice
social media accounts for the Taiwan local community:

  1. I would like to set up the Facebook group:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ooo.tw/

 as the official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan Facebook users' group.  It
is a Facebook group started since 2010/12, and is the current Facebook
group for our local community.

  2. I would also like to set up an official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan
Plurk account, too (whether @apacheoo or @apacheootw is not decided
yet.)  Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service here in Taiwan,
and is even more active than Facebook.

  3. I do not know if this is appropriate.  I would like to set up an
official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan blog.  That may be apacheoo-tw on
blogspot.  It shall contain Apache OpenOffice announcements, as well as
local news.  Please tell me if there are other suggestions on this.




Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread imacat
On 2012/05/06 23:34, Shane Curcuru said:
 Basic guidelines would include:
 - (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists,
 great!

Thanks.

 - PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
 administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
 being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement
 at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing
 other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.

There is some problem here.  Currently there is no other Taiwan PMC
member but me.  I plan to use these pages as a start to invite more
volunteers, refer them to ooo-dev, and eventually propose some of them
as new PMC members when appropriate.  Surely I can invite other
English-speaking PPMC member to fullfill this request now, but that does
not make sense.

In cases other than Taiwan, this means the official local page needs
to have at least two PMC members in order to work.  That may not be an
easy condition for non-English-speaking countries.

 - A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever
 noting that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.
 - A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key
 way that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could
 speak for the project or not.  I.e. any official accounts the PPMC
 approves and manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our
 website.  Any other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our
 website we can let users know which ones we run versus third parties.

These are OK.

-- 
Best regards,
imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw
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Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread Shane Curcuru

On 2012-05-06 12:11 PM, imacat wrote:

On 2012/05/06 23:34, Shane Curcuru said:

Basic guidelines would include:
- (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists,
great!


 Thanks.


- PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement
at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing
other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.


 There is some problem here.  Currently there is no other Taiwan PMC
member but me.  I plan to use these pages as a start to invite more
volunteers, refer them to ooo-dev, and eventually propose some of them
as new PMC members when appropriate.  Surely I can invite other
English-speaking PPMC member to fullfill this request now, but that does
not make sense.

 In cases other than Taiwan, this means the official local page needs
to have at least two PMC members in order to work.  That may not be an
easy condition for non-English-speaking countries.


The minimum from the ASF side is that more than one PPMC member has 
access to the account - for example to be able to quickly send an urgent 
message, or if the account creator disappears and isn't maintaining the 
account.  So adding another PPMC member to help administer will work 
just fine - even if they don't speak your target language, they could at 
least still access the account and update it (perhaps updating the list 
of admins with a new volunteer) if for some reason you are not able to.


I.e. not everyone who is an admin on the account has to post to it 
regularly.  Some projects - smaller ones than this, however - just send 
the login details to all PMC members, just to ensure they can access the 
account if needed.


Does that make sense?

I agree, the other important issue is having volunteers who can actually 
post relevant things to the account regularly - it sounds like you are 
covering that for the time being.


- Shane




- A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever
noting that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.
- A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key
way that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could
speak for the project or not.  I.e. any official accounts the PPMC
approves and manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our
website.  Any other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our
website we can let users know which ones we run versus third parties.


 These are OK.



Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread imacat
On 2012/05/07 02:07, Shane Curcuru said:
 On 2012-05-06 12:11 PM, imacat wrote:
 On 2012/05/06 23:34, Shane Curcuru said:
 Basic guidelines would include:
 - PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
 administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
 being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement
 at keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing
 other PPMC members to join as authors or administrators.
  There is some problem here.  Currently there is no other Taiwan PMC
 member but me.  I plan to use these pages as a start to invite more
 volunteers, refer them to ooo-dev, and eventually propose some of them
 as new PMC members when appropriate.  Surely I can invite other
 English-speaking PPMC member to fullfill this request now, but that does
 not make sense.
 The minimum from the ASF side is that more than one PPMC member has
 access to the account - for example to be able to quickly send an urgent
 message, or if the account creator disappears and isn't maintaining the
 account.  So adding another PPMC member to help administer will work
 just fine - even if they don't speak your target language, they could at
 least still access the account and update it (perhaps updating the list
 of admins with a new volunteer) if for some reason you are not able to.
 
 I.e. not everyone who is an admin on the account has to post to it
 regularly.  Some projects - smaller ones than this, however - just send
 the login details to all PMC members, just to ensure they can access the
 account if needed.
 
 Does that make sense?

I see.  That does make sense.  I shall start with this. ^_*'

-- 
Best regards,
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PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc

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Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/
EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Setting Up Official Taiwan

2012-05-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
 It's great to see so many volunteers working at setting up social media
 accounts for the podling in various cultures.  I'm definitely +1 for PPMC
 members working on the lists to setup new accounts - presuming that we also
 have the volunteers to put some relevant content on them.  It sounds like
 imacat will do just fine on this one.  8-)

 Given the likely increase in these requests, I hope to have some more
 detailed best practices and a few requirements for social media accounts
 that are labeled as official; i.e. are run by the project itself (versus the
 many other accounts run by individuals about our projects).

 Basic guidelines would include:

 - (P)PMC approval.  You're already handling this one here on the lists,
 great!

 - PPMC ownership.  More than one PPMC member should be able to fully
 administer the account.  A best practice is to have several PPMC members
 being able to post to the account at will, and to have a basic agreement at
 keeping the PPMC apprised of the administrator list and allowing other PPMC
 members to join as authors or administrators.

 - A note on the homepage of the social media account/page/whatever noting
 that it is run my PPMC members from the AOO project.

 - A link back from the AOO site itself to the account.  This is a key way
 that we can inform users of which social media accounts truly could speak
 for the project or not.  I.e. any official accounts the PPMC approves and
 manages should be linked directly to from someplace on our website.  Any
 other, non-PPMC accounts could also be linked, but on our website we can let
 users know which ones we run versus third parties.

 Comments on these guidelines?


I've been making similar assumptions as well.  I was going to write
them for the project, along with some further, guidelines, not policy
related.   (Think of our mailing list guidelines, but translated into
a social networking context).  But it would be great to get this
defined ASF-wide

 - Shane


 On 2012-05-06 11:05 AM, imacat wrote:

 Dear all,

     I would like to propose setting up three official Apache OpenOffice
 social media accounts for the Taiwan local community:

      1. I would like to set up the Facebook group:

 https://www.facebook.com/groups/ooo.tw/

     as the official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan Facebook users' group.  It
 is a Facebook group started since 2010/12, and is the current Facebook
 group for our local community.

      2. I would also like to set up an official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan
 Plurk account, too (whether @apacheoo or @apacheootw is not decided
 yet.)  Plurk is the most popular micro-blogging service here in Taiwan,
 and is even more active than Facebook.

      3. I do not know if this is appropriate.  I would like to set up an
 official Apache OpenOffice Taiwan blog.  That may be apacheoo-tw on
 blogspot.  It shall contain Apache OpenOffice announcements, as well as
 local news.  Please tell me if there are other suggestions on this.