Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Jürgen,

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.
 
 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias
 5. ... what else?


We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions
repository:

1) Presentation Minimizer
2) Presenter Console
3) MediaWiki Publisher


I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are officially
supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project
user?


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Dave Fisher

On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

 Hi Jürgen,
 
 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.
 
 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias
 5. ... what else?
 
 
 We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions
 repository:
 
 1) Presentation Minimizer
 2) Presenter Console
 3) MediaWiki Publisher

These are in the source package, but we did not have an opportunity to VOTE on 
and inspect these binaries did we?

In addition to being on the extensions site they'll need to be on Apache 
Mirrors as part of the release.

Regards,
Dave


 
 
 I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are officially
 supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project
 user?


 
 
 Regards
 -- 
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina



Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

 Hi Jürgen,

 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,

 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.

 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias
 5. ... what else?


 We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions
 repository:

 1) Presentation Minimizer
 2) Presenter Console
 3) MediaWiki Publisher

 These are in the source package, but we did not have an opportunity to VOTE 
 on and inspect these binaries did we?


Some extensions were included in the binaries, installed automatically
as part of the main product install.  They look like integrated parts
of the UI.  You can see Presentation Manager in Impress, under
Tools/Minimize Presentation.  I'm pretty sure the Presenter Console
requires two displays, so I can't see it.

The question is how we take the extensions in standalone form and put
them in other common repositories?

Would this be analogous to what Java-based projects do with Maven?
They build and release a larger source and binary distribution for
their release, and that release distribution might contain several
related libraries.  And after the release is made a volunteer uploads
the individual libraries to the central maven repository,

How is that done with Maven central repository?  Does the project do
that officially?  Or someone just does that individually?

-Rob

 In addition to being on the extensions site they'll need to be on Apache 
 Mirrors as part of the release.

 Regards,
 Dave




 I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are officially
 supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project
 user?




 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina



Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Dave Fisher

On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 
 Hi Jürgen,
 
 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.
 
 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias
 5. ... what else?
 
 
 We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions
 repository:
 
 1) Presentation Minimizer
 2) Presenter Console
 3) MediaWiki Publisher
 
 These are in the source package, but we did not have an opportunity to VOTE 
 on and inspect these binaries did we?
 
 
 Some extensions were included in the binaries, installed automatically
 as part of the main product install.  They look like integrated parts
 of the UI.  You can see Presentation Manager in Impress, under
 Tools/Minimize Presentation.  I'm pretty sure the Presenter Console
 requires two displays, so I can't see it.
 
 The question is how we take the extensions in standalone form and put
 them in other common repositories?
 
 Would this be analogous to what Java-based projects do with Maven?
 They build and release a larger source and binary distribution for
 their release, and that release distribution might contain several
 related libraries.  And after the release is made a volunteer uploads
 the individual libraries to the central maven repository,
 
 How is that done with Maven central repository?  Does the project do
 that officially?  Or someone just does that individually?

We do it officially in Apache POI. See 
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk/maven/.

We've voted on these artifacts as well.

I think that if we have Extensions that are packaged separately they can be 
distributed in similar manner to the source, sdk, and binary distros. They do 
need a VOTE thread and then verifiable.

We can follow the AOO341 release with an Extensions Release.

Regards,
Dave


 
 -Rob
 
 In addition to being on the extensions site they'll need to be on Apache 
 Mirrors as part of the release.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are officially
 supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project
 user?
 
 
 
 
 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina
 



Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:

 On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:

 Hi Jürgen,

 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,

 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.

 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias
 5. ... what else?


 We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions
 repository:

 1) Presentation Minimizer
 2) Presenter Console
 3) MediaWiki Publisher

 These are in the source package, but we did not have an opportunity to VOTE 
 on and inspect these binaries did we?


 Some extensions were included in the binaries, installed automatically
 as part of the main product install.  They look like integrated parts
 of the UI.  You can see Presentation Manager in Impress, under
 Tools/Minimize Presentation.  I'm pretty sure the Presenter Console
 requires two displays, so I can't see it.

 The question is how we take the extensions in standalone form and put
 them in other common repositories?

 Would this be analogous to what Java-based projects do with Maven?
 They build and release a larger source and binary distribution for
 their release, and that release distribution might contain several
 related libraries.  And after the release is made a volunteer uploads
 the individual libraries to the central maven repository,

 How is that done with Maven central repository?  Does the project do
 that officially?  Or someone just does that individually?

 We do it officially in Apache POI. See 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk/maven/.

 We've voted on these artifacts as well.

 I think that if we have Extensions that are packaged separately they can be 
 distributed in similar manner to the source, sdk, and binary distros. They do 
 need a VOTE thread and then verifiable.


I don't think they are packaged separately, at least not at the source
level.  In other words, we don't have a source package for them that
is separate from the full AOO 3.4.1. source packages.   And I doubt
that in binary form they are self-contained release artifacts, each
with their own LICENSE and NOTICE files.

Although this could technically be done, to turn these into real
release artifacts, I'm not sure it would be worth the effort of doing
this, especially if anyone one of us can just upload the extensions to
the repository without further effort.   In any case, for these
extensions I think the plan is to more fully integrate them into the
product in the future.

 We can follow the AOO341 release with an Extensions Release.


Certainly not objections if someone wants to do that.

-Rob

 Regards,
 Dave



 -Rob

 In addition to being on the extensions site they'll need to be on Apache 
 Mirrors as part of the release.

 Regards,
 Dave




 I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are officially
 supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project
 user?




 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina




Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Dave Fisher

On Aug 17, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
 
 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 
 Hi Jürgen,
 
 On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 Hi,
 
 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.
 
 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias
 5. ... what else?
 
 
 We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions
 repository:
 
 1) Presentation Minimizer
 2) Presenter Console
 3) MediaWiki Publisher
 
 These are in the source package, but we did not have an opportunity to 
 VOTE on and inspect these binaries did we?
 
 
 Some extensions were included in the binaries, installed automatically
 as part of the main product install.  They look like integrated parts
 of the UI.  You can see Presentation Manager in Impress, under
 Tools/Minimize Presentation.  I'm pretty sure the Presenter Console
 requires two displays, so I can't see it.
 
 The question is how we take the extensions in standalone form and put
 them in other common repositories?
 
 Would this be analogous to what Java-based projects do with Maven?
 They build and release a larger source and binary distribution for
 their release, and that release distribution might contain several
 related libraries.  And after the release is made a volunteer uploads
 the individual libraries to the central maven repository,
 
 How is that done with Maven central repository?  Does the project do
 that officially?  Or someone just does that individually?
 
 We do it officially in Apache POI. See 
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk/maven/.
 
 We've voted on these artifacts as well.
 
 I think that if we have Extensions that are packaged separately they can be 
 distributed in similar manner to the source, sdk, and binary distros. They 
 do need a VOTE thread and then verifiable.
 
 
 I don't think they are packaged separately, at least not at the source
 level.  In other words, we don't have a source package for them that
 is separate from the full AOO 3.4.1. source packages.   And I doubt
 that in binary form they are self-contained release artifacts, each
 with their own LICENSE and NOTICE files.
 
 Although this could technically be done, to turn these into real
 release artifacts, I'm not sure it would be worth the effort of doing
 this, especially if anyone one of us can just upload the extensions to
 the repository without further effort.   In any case, for these
 extensions I think the plan is to more fully integrate them into the
 product in the future.

Since the extensions can get separated out of the build then those artifacts 
should be exposed as three more binary artifacts with hashes for verification 
and VOTE.


 
 We can follow the AOO341 release with an Extensions Release.
 
 
 Certainly not objections if someone wants to do that.

None here - just that we'll need to agree to release.

Regards,
Dave

 
 -Rob
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 
 
 -Rob
 
 In addition to being on the extensions site they'll need to be on Apache 
 Mirrors as part of the release.
 
 Regards,
 Dave
 
 
 
 
 I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are officially
 supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project
 user?
 
 
 
 
 Regards
 --
 Ariel Constenla-Haile
 La Plata, Argentina
 
 



Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-17 Thread Roberto Galoppini
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
 
  On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
  On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
 
  Hi Jürgen,
 
  On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  Hi,
 
  as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
  release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in
 place
  if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.
 
  ToDo's
  1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
  improvements have to be integrated
  2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
  3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
  3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
  archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download
 via
  Sourceforge?
  4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various
 social
  medias
  5. ... what else?
 
 
  We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions
  repository:
 
  1) Presentation Minimizer
  2) Presenter Console
  3) MediaWiki Publisher
 
  These are in the source package, but we did not have an opportunity to
 VOTE on and inspect these binaries did we?
 
 
  Some extensions were included in the binaries, installed automatically
  as part of the main product install.  They look like integrated parts
  of the UI.  You can see Presentation Manager in Impress, under
  Tools/Minimize Presentation.  I'm pretty sure the Presenter Console
  requires two displays, so I can't see it.
 
  The question is how we take the extensions in standalone form and put
  them in other common repositories?
 
  Would this be analogous to what Java-based projects do with Maven?
  They build and release a larger source and binary distribution for
  their release, and that release distribution might contain several
  related libraries.  And after the release is made a volunteer uploads
  the individual libraries to the central maven repository,
 
  How is that done with Maven central repository?  Does the project do
  that officially?  Or someone just does that individually?
 
  We do it officially in Apache POI. See
 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk/maven/.
 
  We've voted on these artifacts as well.
 
  I think that if we have Extensions that are packaged separately they can
 be distributed in similar manner to the source, sdk, and binary distros.
 They do need a VOTE thread and then verifiable.
 

 I don't think they are packaged separately, at least not at the source
 level.  In other words, we don't have a source package for them that
 is separate from the full AOO 3.4.1. source packages.   And I doubt
 that in binary form they are self-contained release artifacts, each
 with their own LICENSE and NOTICE files.

 Although this could technically be done, to turn these into real
 release artifacts, I'm not sure it would be worth the effort of doing
 this, especially if anyone one of us can just upload the extensions to
 the repository without further effort.


Just in case, that's what is needed to be done.

Chose an account name, to be associated to an email address (not shown)
here:
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/user/register

Let us know on ooo-dev the account name, we'll associate the following
extensions to that account.

http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/PresentationMinimizer
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/presenter-screen
http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/wikipublisher

Doing so those extensions won't be associated to Oracle nor Sun, as of
today.

Roberto


 In any case, for these
 extensions I think the plan is to more fully integrate them into the
 product in the future.

  We can follow the AOO341 release with an Extensions Release.
 

 Certainly not objections if someone wants to do that.

 -Rob

  Regards,
  Dave
 
 
 
  -Rob
 
  In addition to being on the extensions site they'll need to be on
 Apache Mirrors as part of the release.
 
  Regards,
  Dave
 
 
 
 
  I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are
 officially
  supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project
  user?
 
 
 
 
  Regards
  --
  Ariel Constenla-Haile
  La Plata, Argentina
 
 


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[RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-16 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.

ToDo's
1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
improvements have to be integrated
2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
Sourceforge?
4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
medias
5. ... what else?
6. be happy

Juergen



Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-16 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.

 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias
 5. ... what else?
 6. be happy

 Juergen


I think we're good with all this. I can take care of additional mods to the
release notes, and I'm pretty sure Marcus was already dealing with 3. and
3.1 items here.




-- 

MzK

Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think.
--
Niels Bohr


Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
 if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.

 ToDo's
 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
 improvements have to be integrated
 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start
 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ???
 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to
 archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via
 Sourceforge?
 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
 medias

I have a draft sitting in Roller right now.  I'll send out a link to
it in a separate thread.

 5. ... what else?

I started this list on the wiki, based on what things we did for AOO 3.4.0:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4.1+Distribution+Tasks



 6. be happy


+1.

 Juergen



Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation

2012-08-16 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 08/16/2012 06:28 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:35 AM, Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@gmail.comwrote:


Hi,

as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1
release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place
if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful.

ToDo's
1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or
improvements have to be integrated
2. upload of the binaries on dist -  prepared and ready to start
3. changing the download page, adapt download logic -  ???
3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download -  they move to
archive.apache.org -  do we need to change something, we download via
Sourceforge?
4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social
medias
5. ... what else?
6. be happy

Juergen



I think we're good with all this. I can take care of additional mods to the
release notes, and I'm pretty sure Marcus was already dealing with 3. and
3.1 items here.


Right, as it's documented here ...

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS
/AOO+3.4.1+Distribution+Tasks

... the very most parts affecting the download section are ready locally 
on my PC. Now waiting for the binaries for some final tests.


Marcus