Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments -- native language mailing lists
On 04/07/2012 10:01 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote: Sure, updated. It is committed http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1310798 but for some reasons the build failed. Relaunched the build as instructed by Joe in another thread on this list. It worked, updated page available at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html Regards, Andrea. good! :) -- MzK "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments -- native language mailing lists
Andrea Pescetti wrote: Sure, updated. It is committed http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1310798 but for some reasons the build failed. Relaunched the build as instructed by Joe in another thread on this list. It worked, updated page available at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments -- native language mailing lists
Kay Schenk wrote: but I think the new link you added really needs to go to the project (incubator) page on Native Languages for now: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html and not the existing (legacy) native language main page. Sure, updated. It is committed http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revision&revision=1310798 but for some reasons the build failed. I get (using the bookmarklet, build 398): Global symbol "$path" requires explicit package name at /usr/local/cms/build/build_svn.pl line 62. Global symbol "$path" requires explicit package name at /usr/local/cms/build/build_svn.pl line 75. BEGIN not safe after errors--compilation aborted at /usr/local/cms/build/build_svn.pl line 89. but honestly I think it's related to something else, I merely changed that link. Anyway, this is the reason why the change is not shown at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments -- native language mailing lists
On 04/07/2012 06:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 11/03/2012 Rob Weir wrote: Was the Brazilian list ever created? If so, what is the list address? I don't see anything listed here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html In fact, I don't see any of the NL lists listed. It would be good if the list moderators could update that page to include their info. I understand it was later decided not to list all native-lang mailing lists there. But I added a notice to that page saying that native-lang mailing lists exist and that they can (well, should) be found by browsing the individual native-lang websites listed at http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html Regards, Andrea. Andrea-- At the last update to the icubator page you mentioned above, I think only the French list was not included, it was "in request" when I did this update. You woule need to search INFRA requests to determine really what is established (Apache condoned) at this time. So, good that you put some information about the Native Language Mailing lists on : http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html but I think the new link you added really needs to go to the project (incubator) page on Native Languages for now: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/native-lang.html and not the existing (legacy) native language main page. What you're saying makes perfect sense in the long term, but for the moment we don't have enough involvement from native language participants to directly edit the native language pages to add the mailing list information to each main native language site. So, if you could change the link you put into http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html that would be good, and I will try to keep up with new native-language mailing lists a bit more. -- MzK "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." -- Robert Heinlein
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On 11/03/2012 Rob Weir wrote: Was the Brazilian list ever created? If so, what is the list address? I don't see anything listed here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html In fact, I don't see any of the NL lists listed. It would be good if the list moderators could update that page to include their info. I understand it was later decided not to list all native-lang mailing lists there. But I added a notice to that page saying that native-lang mailing lists exist and that they can (well, should) be found by browsing the individual native-lang websites listed at http://www.openoffice.org/projects/native-lang.html Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what > > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a > > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. > > > > Thanks for all the feedback on the timeline and the accompanying blog > post. I tried to include everyone's feedback, but in some cases they > were about future events, such as future mailing lists, etc. I'm not > tossing our the source files for the timeline, so we can always update > it and use it again in the future. > > The mis-ordering of the legend -- I was not able to find any way of > correcting it in the app (a Windows program called TimelineMaker) so I > edited the bitmap directly to cut & paste to fix it. It looks better > now. > > Sohere's the blog post: > > https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/an_apache_openoffice_timeline > Rob-- This is great, really! I like it! > > If you are on Google+ or Twitter, here are the coordinates: > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/110021943609888508798/posts/edPwH6kw726 > > http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/179603491348692992 > > If someone has access to the OpenOffice Facebook page it would be good > to get it out there as well. > > Thanks! > > -Rob > > > Any errors that pop out? > > > > Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? > > > > Some times I am missing dates for include: > > > > date Japanese list started > > date Italian list started > > > > (has German list started?) > > > > dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports > > > > Probably missing some buildbots > > > > Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? > > > > Any others? > > > > It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've > > accomplished quite a lot. > > > > -Rob > > > > > > > > Enter IncubationJun 13 2011 > > Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 > > Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 > > Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 > > Blog createdSep 09 2011 > > Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 > > Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 > > Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 > > Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 > > Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 > > Pootle Dec 11 2011 > > Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 > > First dev snapshot buildJan 16 2012 > > All initial committers processedJan 18 2012 > > Windows BuildbotFeb 08 2012 > > Extensions site migratedFeb 26 2012 > -- MzK "Follow your bliss." -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
>Sohere's the blog post: >https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/an_apache_openoffice_timeline >If you are on Google+ or Twitter, here are the coordinates: >https://plus.google.com/u/0/110021943609888508798/posts/edPwH6kw726 >http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/179603491348692992 >If someone has access to the OpenOffice Facebook page it would be good >to get it out there as well. And do same thing on https://twitter.com/#!/openofficeorg I don't know who manage it
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Am 13.03.2012 19:47, schrieb Christoph Jopp: > Am 13.03.2012 17:33, schrieb Rob Weir: >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >>> we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >>> timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >>> >> >> Thanks for all the feedback on the timeline and the accompanying blog >> post. I tried to include everyone's feedback, but in some cases they >> were about future events, such as future mailing lists, etc. I'm not >> tossing our the source files for the timeline, so we can always update >> it and use it again in the future. >> >> The mis-ordering of the legend -- I was not able to find any way of >> correcting it in the app (a Windows program called TimelineMaker) so I >> edited the bitmap directly to cut & paste to fix it. It looks better >> now. >> >> Sohere's the blog post: >> >> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/an_apache_openoffice_timeline > > Since someone complained about the file size earlier in this thread, > find a smaller version attached. (if you like) Sorry, did not get through. so I cc it privately. > > >> >> If you are on Google+ or Twitter, here are the coordinates: >> >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/110021943609888508798/posts/edPwH6kw726 >> >> http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/179603491348692992 >> >> If someone has access to the OpenOffice Facebook page it would be good >> to get it out there as well. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -Rob >> >>> Any errors that pop out? >>> >>> Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? >>> >>> Some times I am missing dates for include: >>> >>> date Japanese list started >>> date Italian list started >>> >>> (has German list started?) >>> >>> dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports >>> >>> Probably missing some buildbots >>> >>> Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? >>> >>> Any others? >>> >>> It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've >>> accomplished quite a lot. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> Enter IncubationJun 13 2011 >>> Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 >>> Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 >>> Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 >>> Blog createdSep 09 2011 >>> Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 >>> Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 >>> Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 >>> Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 >>> Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 >>> Pootle Dec 11 2011 >>> Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 >>> First dev snapshot buildJan 16 2012 >>> All initial committers processedJan 18 2012 >>> Windows BuildbotFeb 08 2012 >>> Extensions site migratedFeb 26 2012 >> >
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Am 13.03.2012 17:33, schrieb Rob Weir: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >> we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >> timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >> > > Thanks for all the feedback on the timeline and the accompanying blog > post. I tried to include everyone's feedback, but in some cases they > were about future events, such as future mailing lists, etc. I'm not > tossing our the source files for the timeline, so we can always update > it and use it again in the future. > > The mis-ordering of the legend -- I was not able to find any way of > correcting it in the app (a Windows program called TimelineMaker) so I > edited the bitmap directly to cut & paste to fix it. It looks better > now. > > Sohere's the blog post: > > https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/an_apache_openoffice_timeline Since someone complained about the file size earlier in this thread, find a smaller version attached. (if you like) > > If you are on Google+ or Twitter, here are the coordinates: > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/110021943609888508798/posts/edPwH6kw726 > > http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/179603491348692992 > > If someone has access to the OpenOffice Facebook page it would be good > to get it out there as well. > > Thanks! > > -Rob > >> Any errors that pop out? >> >> Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? >> >> Some times I am missing dates for include: >> >> date Japanese list started >> date Italian list started >> >> (has German list started?) >> >> dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports >> >> Probably missing some buildbots >> >> Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? >> >> Any others? >> >> It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've >> accomplished quite a lot. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >> Enter IncubationJun 13 2011 >> Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 >> Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 >> Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 >> Blog createdSep 09 2011 >> Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 >> Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 >> Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 >> Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 >> Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 >> Pootle Dec 11 2011 >> Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 >> First dev snapshot buildJan 16 2012 >> All initial committers processedJan 18 2012 >> Windows BuildbotFeb 08 2012 >> Extensions site migratedFeb 26 2012 >
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. > Thanks for all the feedback on the timeline and the accompanying blog post. I tried to include everyone's feedback, but in some cases they were about future events, such as future mailing lists, etc. I'm not tossing our the source files for the timeline, so we can always update it and use it again in the future. The mis-ordering of the legend -- I was not able to find any way of correcting it in the app (a Windows program called TimelineMaker) so I edited the bitmap directly to cut & paste to fix it. It looks better now. Sohere's the blog post: https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/an_apache_openoffice_timeline If you are on Google+ or Twitter, here are the coordinates: https://plus.google.com/u/0/110021943609888508798/posts/edPwH6kw726 http://twitter.com/rcweir/statuses/179603491348692992 If someone has access to the OpenOffice Facebook page it would be good to get it out there as well. Thanks! -Rob > Any errors that pop out? > > Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? > > Some times I am missing dates for include: > > date Japanese list started > date Italian list started > > (has German list started?) > > dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports > > Probably missing some buildbots > > Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? > > Any others? > > It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've > accomplished quite a lot. > > -Rob > > > > Enter Incubation Jun 13 2011 > Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 > Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 > Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 > Blog created Sep 09 2011 > Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 > Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 > Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 > Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 > Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 > Pootle Dec 11 2011 > Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 > First dev snapshot build Jan 16 2012 > All initial committers processed Jan 18 2012 > Windows Buildbot Feb 08 2012 > Extensions site migrated Feb 26 2012
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On 03/08/2012 02:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. Here is what I have so far: http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png As you can see, I'm classifying the milestones in three buckets. These, of course, are debatable. There is a lot of cross-over effects. The enablement of a new server by Infrastructure has implications for the community, as well as for development, and development is part of, not different than the community, etc. I get that. But I think this is an effective way to show what we've done in terms of server migration, code work, and growing the community. A little color doesn't hurt either. The distinctions are artificial, but when you think of it, even our quarterly Board reports use similar categories. In any case, I'd love more events and dates. For example, our 3.4 release notes are full of enhancements. I'd love to list some more, which I would, if I had dates. -Rob We have a Linux-32 bit buildbot as well, but I don't know when it was initiated. :/ Any errors that pop out? Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? Some times I am missing dates for include: date Japanese list started date Italian list started (has German list started?) dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports Probably missing some buildbots Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? Any others? It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've accomplished quite a lot. -Rob Enter IncubationJun 13 2011 Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 Blog createdSep 09 2011 Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 Pootle Dec 11 2011 Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 First dev snapshot buildJan 16 2012 All initial committers processedJan 18 2012 Windows BuildbotFeb 08 2012 Extensions site migratedFeb 26 2012 -- MzK "Follow your bliss." -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
2012/3/11 Andrea Pescetti : > But where's you request? I can't find it in > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA/component/10854 > and if you placed it elsewhere it's quite likely that it will go unnoticed. Sorry, Pescetti. I am learning yet. Only now that i was able to (re)follow this list and the Apache work way. (newbie in study). https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4532 Best, Claudio
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Rob Weir wrote on Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 11:35:44 -0400: > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Claudio Filho wrote: > > Hi > > > > 2012/3/10 Rob Weir : > >> A draft blog post using the timeline to make a point about our > >> migration efforts: > >> > >> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=an_apache_openoffice_timeline > > > > Robert, i saw that a request of brazilian users list isn't present in > > your work. We did it in 2012/07/07, trought the request of Luiz > > Oliveira. > > > > Was the Brazilian list ever created? If so, what is the list address? > > I don't see anything listed here: > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html > > In fact, I don't see any of the NL lists listed. It would be good if > the list moderators could update that page to include their info. > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ has a list of all of your public lists. > > How we are talking about L10N and Pootle questions, i think that the > > list is an important tool. > > > > Is possible add this point in your graphic? > > > > Regards, > > Claudio
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Claudio Filho wrote: 2012/3/11 Rob Weir: Was the Brazilian list ever created? If so, what is the list address? Effectively, hasn't created (unhappily) although of solicitation, but nothing that we can fix, right? But where's you request? I can't find it in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA/component/10854 and if you placed it elsewhere it's quite likely that it will go unnoticed. Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
2012/3/11 Rob Weir : > Was the Brazilian list ever created? If so, what is the list address? Effectively, hasn't created (unhappily) although of solicitation, but nothing that we can fix, right? But if is only finalized solicitations, i will understand. Thanks, anyway. Bests, Claudio
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Claudio Filho wrote: > Hi > > 2012/3/10 Rob Weir : >> A draft blog post using the timeline to make a point about our >> migration efforts: >> >> https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=an_apache_openoffice_timeline > > Robert, i saw that a request of brazilian users list isn't present in > your work. We did it in 2012/07/07, trought the request of Luiz > Oliveira. > Was the Brazilian list ever created? If so, what is the list address? I don't see anything listed here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html In fact, I don't see any of the NL lists listed. It would be good if the list moderators could update that page to include their info. > How we are talking about L10N and Pootle questions, i think that the > list is an important tool. > > Is possible add this point in your graphic? > > Regards, > Claudio
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Hi 2012/3/10 Rob Weir : > A draft blog post using the timeline to make a point about our > migration efforts: > > https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=an_apache_openoffice_timeline Robert, i saw that a request of brazilian users list isn't present in your work. We did it in 2012/07/07, trought the request of Luiz Oliveira. How we are talking about L10N and Pootle questions, i think that the list is an important tool. Is possible add this point in your graphic? Regards, Claudio
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On 3/10/2012 17:59, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
On 10/03/2012 Rob Weir wrote:
A draft blog post using the timeline to make a point about our
migration efforts:
https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=an_apache_openoffice_timeline
Nice. A few observations:
- Check "has the timeline above shows"
- Now that I notice, the New Color Picker is not that interesting in
strategic terms. It is a nice feature and very good to have, but it was
contributed to other projects before, so it's not something peculiar to
Apache OpenOffice.
- I would include links to all resources you list in the paragraph
"includes mailing lists, support forums, wikis, bug databases..."
Regards,
Andrea.
Nice, indeed. I concur on links and s/has/as/, plus you might check the
order of the legend against the order of the plots.
AOO's Chart module could probably be extended to produce a diagram like
this, as a type of XY ("scatter") chart.
/tj/
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On 10/03/2012 Rob Weir wrote: A draft blog post using the timeline to make a point about our migration efforts: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=an_apache_openoffice_timeline Nice. A few observations: - Check "has the timeline above shows" - Now that I notice, the New Color Picker is not that interesting in strategic terms. It is a nice feature and very good to have, but it was contributed to other projects before, so it's not something peculiar to Apache OpenOffice. - I would include links to all resources you list in the paragraph "includes mailing lists, support forums, wikis, bug databases..." Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: >> On 03/08/2012 05:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >>> >>> Here is what I have so far: >>> >>> http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png >>> >>> >>> >> >> Very nice Rob. Thanks for putting this together. >> > > Thank, everyone for the feedback. I'm trying to include as much of it as I > can. > A draft blog post using the timeline to make a point about our migration efforts: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=an_apache_openoffice_timeline It is worth noting, as we retire the last of the Oracle servers next Friday, how much we've accomplished. -Rob > I just thought of another data point that we could include: > > Apache Software Foundation created: March 25th, 1999 > > Seems fair, since other projects are in the practice of claiming code > contributions that were made far before their project's existed. > > -Rob > >> Best regards, >> Carl
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Am 03/09/2012 12:01 PM, schrieb Carl Marcum: On 03/08/2012 05:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. Here is what I have so far: http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png Very nice Rob. Thanks for putting this together. Yes, great to have a kind of time history handy when it comes to discussions about AOO. So, thank you Rob! Ciao Marcus
RE: AOO timeline of accomplishments
+1 from me too. - Dennis PS: The only odd bit for me is the Copyleft blob. Because it requires two lines of text, it seems to be some big splat rather than a duration. If you just say "Removal of Copyleft" or "License Cleanups" it would fit better. It might be even better if the words were a legend text like the rest with a left-half button at the start, a right-half button on the right. Whatever you do, it is a great diagram. -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 09:55 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: >> On 03/08/2012 05:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>>> >>>> I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >>>> we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >>>> timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >>>> >>> >>> Here is what I have so far: >>> >>> http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png >>> >>> >>> >> >> Very nice Rob. Thanks for putting this together. >> > > Thank, everyone for the feedback. I'm trying to include as much of it as I > can. > > I just thought of another data point that we could include: > > Apache Software Foundation created: March 25th, 1999 Rob I heard it was February 21. I noticed because that's my birthday. Great work with this graphic! Bet Regards, Dave > > Seems fair, since other projects are in the practice of claiming code > contributions that were made far before their project's existed. > > -Rob > >> Best regards, >> Carl
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Sent from my iPhone On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:43 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: >> On 03/08/2012 05:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >>> >>> Here is what I have so far: >>> >>> http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png >>> >>> >>> >> >> Very nice Rob. Thanks for putting this together. >> > > Thank, everyone for the feedback. I'm trying to include as much of it as I > can. > > I just thought of another data point that we could include: > > Apache Software Foundation created: March 25th, 1999 Rob I heard it was February 21. I noticed because that's my birthday. Great work with this graphic! Bet Regards, Dave > > Seems fair, since other projects are in the practice of claiming code > contributions that were made far before their project's existed. > > -Rob > >> Best regards, >> Carl
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:01 AM, Carl Marcum wrote: > On 03/08/2012 05:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >>> we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >>> timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >>> >> >> Here is what I have so far: >> >> http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png >> >> >> > > Very nice Rob. Thanks for putting this together. > Thank, everyone for the feedback. I'm trying to include as much of it as I can. I just thought of another data point that we could include: Apache Software Foundation created: March 25th, 1999 Seems fair, since other projects are in the practice of claiming code contributions that were made far before their project's existed. -Rob > Best regards, > Carl
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On 03/08/2012 05:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. Here is what I have so far: http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png Very nice Rob. Thanks for putting this together. Best regards, Carl
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Hi, Rob, On 3/8/2012 21:47, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:09:33 -0500 Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. You might perhaps enter dates (even approximate) for Commencement of IP clearance and Completion of IP clearance. I remind you that this timeline may be viewed by the unskilled, so terms such as IP and Pootle need some explanation. Interesting idea. I made the copyleft removal be an extent rather than just indicate the points. See the revised version here: http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png One of the memes about this project that you hear is that we spent an exorbitant amount of time just removing copyleft components. This puts it in perspective and shows that we spent relatively little time doing that. -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell This is really lovely: both informative and attractive. Could you say a few words about how you produced it? /tj/
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Rob Weir wrote: Interesting idea. I made the copyleft removal be an extent rather than just indicate the points. See the revised version here: http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png I'd call it "Replacement of copyleft modules": the effort was in replacing stuff, just removing would have been trivial. I'd actually prefer to avoid the "copyleft" word since it may be hard to understand and potentially confusing, but I can't come up with a concise phrasing for "Replacement of components with incompatible licenses". Regards, Andrea.
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 5:19 AM, Wolf Halton wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: >>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:09:33 -0500 >>> Rob Weir wrote: >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >>> >>> You might perhaps enter dates (even approximate) for Commencement of IP >>> clearance and Completion of IP clearance. I remind you that this timeline >>> may be viewed by the unskilled, so terms such as IP and Pootle need some >>> explanation. >>> >> >> Interesting idea. I made the copyleft removal be an extent rather >> than just indicate the points. See the revised version here: >> >> http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png >> >> One of the memes about this project that you hear is that we spent an >> exorbitant amount of time just removing copyleft components. This >> puts it in perspective and shows that we spent relatively little time >> doing that. >> >> -Rob >> >>> -- >>> Rory O'Farrell > > Rob ++ > This is a cool image. It makes it really obvious that we have done a lot. Cool, indeed. Some minor changes: - a bullet is missing for the Extensions site migrated (Feb 26 2012) - there is a red bullet with no tag on the 1st of March Roberto > 2 things that pop out: > Make "Enter Incubation" an infra item. - though I can see reasons why > you considered that community. > Put infra first so it matches your legend, which is ordered differently or > Change the order in the legend to match the order of the main > graphic (Whichever is easier). > > Presumably the blog post surrounding the graphic will make pootle and > confluence wiki etc. understandable to the non-illuminated. It is an > excellent and compact depiction of all that has been done. > > Good show! > > Wolf > -- > This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com > Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:09:33 -0500 >> Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >>> > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >>> > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >> >> You might perhaps enter dates (even approximate) for Commencement of IP >> clearance and Completion of IP clearance. I remind you that this timeline >> may be viewed by the unskilled, so terms such as IP and Pootle need some >> explanation. >> > > Interesting idea. I made the copyleft removal be an extent rather > than just indicate the points. See the revised version here: > > http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png > > One of the memes about this project that you hear is that we spent an > exorbitant amount of time just removing copyleft components. This > puts it in perspective and shows that we spent relatively little time > doing that. > > -Rob > >> -- >> Rory O'Farrell Rob ++ This is a cool image. It makes it really obvious that we have done a lot. 2 things that pop out: Make "Enter Incubation" an infra item. - though I can see reasons why you considered that community. Put infra first so it matches your legend, which is ordered differently or Change the order in the legend to match the order of the main graphic (Whichever is easier). Presumably the blog post surrounding the graphic will make pootle and confluence wiki etc. understandable to the non-illuminated. It is an excellent and compact depiction of all that has been done. Good show! Wolf -- This Apt Has Super Cow Powers - http://sourcefreedom.com Advancing Libraries Together - http://LYRASIS.org
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote: > On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:09:33 -0500 > Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >> > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >> > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. > > You might perhaps enter dates (even approximate) for Commencement of IP > clearance and Completion of IP clearance. I remind you that this timeline may > be viewed by the unskilled, so terms such as IP and Pootle need some > explanation. > Interesting idea. I made the copyleft removal be an extent rather than just indicate the points. See the revised version here: http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png One of the memes about this project that you hear is that we spent an exorbitant amount of time just removing copyleft components. This puts it in perspective and shows that we spent relatively little time doing that. -Rob > -- > Rory O'Farrell
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > Did you want to do a low-bandwidth version also? That graphic didn't > make it through my company's firewall. Though I could view it on my > phone. > Hmmm The image is only 126 KB. So not unusually large. But it is a PNG. I could do it as a JPEG and it would be smaller. -Rob > Don > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >>> we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >>> timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >>> >> >> Here is what I have so far: >> >> http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png >> >> As you can see, I'm classifying the milestones in three buckets. >> These, of course, are debatable. There is a lot of cross-over effects. >> The enablement of a new server by Infrastructure has implications for >> the community, as well as for development, and development is part of, >> not different than the community, etc. I get that. But I think this >> is an effective way to show what we've done in terms of server >> migration, code work, and growing the community. A little color >> doesn't hurt either. The distinctions are artificial, but when you >> think of it, even our quarterly Board reports use similar categories. >> >> In any case, I'd love more events and dates. For example, our 3.4 >> release notes are full of enhancements. I'd love to list some more, >> which I would, if I had dates. >> >> -Rob >> >>> Any errors that pop out? >>> >>> Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? >>> >>> Some times I am missing dates for include: >>> >>> date Japanese list started >>> date Italian list started >>> >>> (has German list started?) >>> >>> dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports >>> >>> Probably missing some buildbots >>> >>> Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? >>> >>> Any others? >>> >>> It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've >>> accomplished quite a lot. >>> >>> -Rob >>> >>> >>> >>> Enter Incubation Jun 13 2011 >>> Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 >>> Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 >>> Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 >>> Blog created Sep 09 2011 >>> Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 >>> Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 >>> Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 >>> Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 >>> Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 >>> Pootle Dec 11 2011 >>> Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 >>> First dev snapshot build Jan 16 2012 >>> All initial committers processed Jan 18 2012 >>> Windows Buildbot Feb 08 2012 >>> Extensions site migrated Feb 26 2012
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Did you want to do a low-bandwidth version also? That graphic didn't make it through my company's firewall. Though I could view it on my phone. Don On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >> we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >> timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >> > > Here is what I have so far: > > http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png > > As you can see, I'm classifying the milestones in three buckets. > These, of course, are debatable. There is a lot of cross-over effects. > The enablement of a new server by Infrastructure has implications for > the community, as well as for development, and development is part of, > not different than the community, etc. I get that. But I think this > is an effective way to show what we've done in terms of server > migration, code work, and growing the community. A little color > doesn't hurt either. The distinctions are artificial, but when you > think of it, even our quarterly Board reports use similar categories. > > In any case, I'd love more events and dates. For example, our 3.4 > release notes are full of enhancements. I'd love to list some more, > which I would, if I had dates. > > -Rob > >> Any errors that pop out? >> >> Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? >> >> Some times I am missing dates for include: >> >> date Japanese list started >> date Italian list started >> >> (has German list started?) >> >> dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports >> >> Probably missing some buildbots >> >> Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? >> >> Any others? >> >> It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've >> accomplished quite a lot. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >> Enter Incubation Jun 13 2011 >> Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 >> Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 >> Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 >> Blog created Sep 09 2011 >> Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 >> Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 >> Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 >> Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 >> Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 >> Pootle Dec 11 2011 >> Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 >> First dev snapshot build Jan 16 2012 >> All initial committers processed Jan 18 2012 >> Windows Buildbot Feb 08 2012 >> Extensions site migrated Feb 26 2012
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:09:33 -0500 Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what > > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a > > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. You might perhaps enter dates (even approximate) for Commencement of IP clearance and Completion of IP clearance. I remind you that this timeline may be viewed by the unskilled, so terms such as IP and Pootle need some explanation. -- Rory O'Farrell
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. > Here is what I have so far: http://www.robweir.com/AOO.png As you can see, I'm classifying the milestones in three buckets. These, of course, are debatable. There is a lot of cross-over effects. The enablement of a new server by Infrastructure has implications for the community, as well as for development, and development is part of, not different than the community, etc. I get that. But I think this is an effective way to show what we've done in terms of server migration, code work, and growing the community. A little color doesn't hurt either. The distinctions are artificial, but when you think of it, even our quarterly Board reports use similar categories. In any case, I'd love more events and dates. For example, our 3.4 release notes are full of enhancements. I'd love to list some more, which I would, if I had dates. -Rob > Any errors that pop out? > > Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? > > Some times I am missing dates for include: > > date Japanese list started > date Italian list started > > (has German list started?) > > dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports > > Probably missing some buildbots > > Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? > > Any others? > > It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've > accomplished quite a lot. > > -Rob > > > > Enter Incubation Jun 13 2011 > Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 > Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 > Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 > Blog created Sep 09 2011 > Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 > Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 > Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 > Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 > Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 > Pootle Dec 11 2011 > Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 > First dev snapshot build Jan 16 2012 > All initial committers processed Jan 18 2012 > Windows Buildbot Feb 08 2012 > Extensions site migrated Feb 26 2012
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Hi, > dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports no date for OS/2 because AOO is working but there are still crashes not present in 3.2 build. I will provide weekly dev builds. thanks, -- Bye, Yuri Dario /* * OS/2 open source software * http://web.os2power.com/yuri * http://www.netlabs.org */
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. Any errors that pop out? Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? Some times I am missing dates for include: date Japanese list started date Italian list started (has German list started?) Yes, the list is started. Subscribe of members can begin. dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports Probably missing some buildbots Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? Any others? I would mention the first new feature compared with OOo3.3. As far as I know it is the svg-import filter by Armin in r1220836 at 2011-12-19. Kind regards Regina It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've accomplished quite a lot. -Rob Enter IncubationJun 13 2011 Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 Blog createdSep 09 2011 Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 Pootle Dec 11 2011 Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 First dev snapshot buildJan 16 2012 All initial committers processedJan 18 2012 Windows BuildbotFeb 08 2012 Extensions site migratedFeb 26 2012
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Will this be sent out after the 15 March shutdown? Is that something to include somehow? Don On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what >> we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a >> timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. >> >> Any errors that pop out? >> >> Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? >> >> Some times I am missing dates for include: >> >> date Japanese list started >> date Italian list started >> >> (has German list started?) >> >> dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports >> >> Probably missing some buildbots >> >> Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? >> >> Any others? >> >> It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've >> accomplished quite a lot. >> >> -Rob >> >> >> >> Enter Incubation Jun 13 2011 >> Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 >> Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 >> Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 >> Blog created Sep 09 2011 >> Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 >> Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 >> Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 >> Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 >> Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 >> Pootle Dec 11 2011 >> Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 >> First dev snapshot build Jan 16 2012 >> All initial committers processed Jan 18 2012 >> Windows Buildbot Feb 08 2012 >> Extensions site migrated Feb 26 2012 > > Templates site migrated Mar 4 2012 > > Roberto > > This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It > may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the > intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately > notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any > attachment(s) from your system. Thank you. >
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 4:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what > we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a > timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. > > Any errors that pop out? > > Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? > > Some times I am missing dates for include: > > date Japanese list started > date Italian list started > > (has German list started?) > > dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports > > Probably missing some buildbots > > Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? > > Any others? > > It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've > accomplished quite a lot. > > -Rob > > > > Enter Incubation Jun 13 2011 > Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 > Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 > Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 > Blog created Sep 09 2011 > Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 > Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 > Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 > Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 > Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 > Pootle Dec 11 2011 > Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 > First dev snapshot build Jan 16 2012 > All initial committers processed Jan 18 2012 > Windows Buildbot Feb 08 2012 > Extensions site migrated Feb 26 2012 Templates site migratedMar 4 2012 Roberto This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
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On 3/8/2012 10:50, Rob Weir wrote: date Japanese list started https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3926 created 13-Sep /tj/
Re: AOO timeline of accomplishments
Rob Weir wrote: Some times I am missing dates for include: ... date Italian list started Dec 19 2011 Any others? - Something related to QA. Maybe the moment when QA tests became available on the wiki. - The first new major feature entirely developed in the Apache era (should be the SVG import) Regards, Andrea.
AOO timeline of accomplishments
I am working on a blog post that will feature a timeline showing what we have accomplished since the project has started. Obviously a timeline is based on dates and events. The ones have so far are here. Any errors that pop out? Any additional accomplishments I should highlight in the timeline? Some times I am missing dates for include: date Japanese list started date Italian list started (has German list started?) dates for milestones with the freeBSD and OS/2 ports Probably missing some buildbots Missing date for "copyleft" free milestone? Any others? It looks really cool seeing this plotted graphically. We've accomplished quite a lot. -Rob Enter IncubationJun 13 2011 Confluence Wiki Jun 19 2011 Bugzilla migrated Aug 03 2011 Source code checked in Aug 29 2011 Blog createdSep 09 2011 Download archives secured Oct 24 2011 Marketing list created Oct 26 2011 Community Forums migrated Oct 30 2011 Wiki migrated Oct 30 2011 Linux 64-bit Buildbot Nov 25 2011 Pootle Dec 11 2011 Website moved to Apache Dec 26 2011 First dev snapshot buildJan 16 2012 All initial committers processedJan 18 2012 Windows BuildbotFeb 08 2012 Extensions site migratedFeb 26 2012
