Re: Issues about the wiki

2012-05-10 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/5/9 Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com

 Re: Cwiki is a mess, but it works.


...



 Paulo, will you drive this activity?


Hi.

I would like to help on this task. I can help to organize the main wiki and
take care of pt/pt-br section.



 For my part, I will be refreshing the UX project wiki.


Regards,
 Kevin

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Issues about the wiki

2012-05-09 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Hi.

I think it could be useful opening a new topic for this issue.

I've noticed there are two diferent wikis, in fact. The old one inherited
from OOo, based on Mediawiki and a new one, based on Cwiki. I was wondering
which of them will be the main wiki in the near future.

I have some ideas to propose, but they are attached to the chosen platform.

Thanks in advance.

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For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher


Re: Issues about the wiki

2012-05-09 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
Sorry,

I've posted this issue before reading the other messages. There's another
topic open about this issue.

2012/5/9 Paulo de Souza Lima paulo.s.l...@varekai.org

 Hi.

 I think it could be useful opening a new topic for this issue.

 I've noticed there are two diferent wikis, in fact. The old one inherited
 from OOo, based on Mediawiki and a new one, based on Cwiki. I was wondering
 which of them will be the main wiki in the near future.

 I have some ideas to propose, but they are attached to the chosen platform.

 Thanks in advance.

 --
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729

 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
 virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher




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Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
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For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher


Re: Issues about the wiki

2012-05-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 8:33 AM, Paulo de Souza Lima
paulo.s.l...@varekai.org wrote:
 Hi.

 I think it could be useful opening a new topic for this issue.

 I've noticed there are two diferent wikis, in fact. The old one inherited
 from OOo, based on Mediawiki and a new one, based on Cwiki. I was wondering
 which of them will be the main wiki in the near future.


Note that we have two websites:

http://www.openoffice.org

and

http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg

(When we graduate that second one will change to http://openoffice.apache.org)

So why two websites?  Why does this make sense?

Consider this pair of websites as well:

http://www.coca-cola.com/

and

http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/

So the idea is that one website is public-facing, user-facing, about
the Apache OpenOffice product.

And the other is project-facing, about the project.  It is the website
(and associated CWiki) where we do the real work.

The user-facing website will have a lot of translated content.  The
project website will not.  With the user-facing website we should
spend some extra time to make sure it looks as good as it can.  With
the project website, we don't want it too look bad, of course.  But it
is a busy workshop, where things are changing fast.  We're pragmatic,
not pretty.  The Cwiki is a mess, but it works.

That is the kind of distinction we have between the two websites.

It is important to also note, that they are linked.  For example, on
the user-facing websites, when we talk about contributing to the
project, we link them to the project website.

-Rob


 I have some ideas to propose, but they are attached to the chosen platform.

 Thanks in advance.

 --
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
 Linux User #432358
 Ubuntu User #28729

 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
 virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher


Re: Issues about the wiki

2012-05-09 Thread Paulo de Souza Lima
2012/5/9 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org



...


 Note that we have two websites:

 http://www.openoffice.org

 and

 http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg

 (When we graduate that second one will change to
 http://openoffice.apache.org)

 So why two websites?  Why does this make sense?

 Consider this pair of websites as well:

 http://www.coca-cola.com/

 and

 http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/

 So the idea is that one website is public-facing, user-facing, about
 the Apache OpenOffice product.

 And the other is project-facing, about the project.  It is the website
 (and associated CWiki) where we do the real work.

 The user-facing website will have a lot of translated content.  The
 project website will not.  With the user-facing website we should
 spend some extra time to make sure it looks as good as it can.  With
 the project website, we don't want it too look bad, of course.  But it
 is a busy workshop, where things are changing fast.  We're pragmatic,
 not pretty.  The Cwiki is a mess, but it works.

 That is the kind of distinction we have between the two websites.

 It is important to also note, that they are linked.  For example, on
 the user-facing websites, when we talk about contributing to the
 project, we link them to the project website.

 -Rob


Thanks, Rob.

It seems clearer to me now.


-- 
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Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
http://www.pasl.net.br
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Ubuntu User #28729

Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher


Re: Issues about the wiki

2012-05-09 Thread Kevin Grignon
Re: Cwiki is a mess, but it works.

As a new contributor, and having spent a few days in the wiki, I completely
agree with this statement.

Given that we have just achieved a significant milestone, we should take a
few moments to perform some housekeeping.

We should encourage all disciplines to review their wiki content and
archive where appropriate.

The cleaner the wikis, the clearer our mission and tasks at hand. Such
clarity will reduce the barriers to entry and make it easier for new and
existing contributors to reach in, understand our mission and contribute.

Paulo, will you drive this activity?

For my part, I will be refreshing the UX project wiki.

Regards,
Kevin


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Paulo de Souza Lima 
paulo.s.l...@varekai.org wrote:

 2012/5/9 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org

 
 
 ...


  Note that we have two websites:
 
  http://www.openoffice.org
 
  and
 
  http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg
 
  (When we graduate that second one will change to
  http://openoffice.apache.org)
 
  So why two websites?  Why does this make sense?
 
  Consider this pair of websites as well:
 
  http://www.coca-cola.com/
 
  and
 
  http://www.thecoca-colacompany.com/
 
  So the idea is that one website is public-facing, user-facing, about
  the Apache OpenOffice product.
 
  And the other is project-facing, about the project.  It is the website
  (and associated CWiki) where we do the real work.
 
  The user-facing website will have a lot of translated content.  The
  project website will not.  With the user-facing website we should
  spend some extra time to make sure it looks as good as it can.  With
  the project website, we don't want it too look bad, of course.  But it
  is a busy workshop, where things are changing fast.  We're pragmatic,
  not pretty.  The Cwiki is a mess, but it works.
 
  That is the kind of distinction we have between the two websites.
 
  It is important to also note, that they are linked.  For example, on
  the user-facing websites, when we talk about contributing to the
  project, we link them to the project website.
 
  -Rob
 
 
 Thanks, Rob.

 It seems clearer to me now.


 --
 Paulo de Souza Lima
 Técnico em Eletrônica e Administrador
 http://www.pasl.net.br
 http://almalivre.wordpress.com
 Curitiba - PR
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 Para que as pessoas conquistem a paz em suas relações, a paz espiritual e
 a paz entre os povos, é preciso que antes se ganhe a batalha interna das
 virtudes sobre os defeitos - Talal Husseini - Filósofo Acropolitano

 For people to achieve peace in their relationships, spiritual peace and
 the peace among people, it's necessary, earlier, to win the internal battle
 between virtues and defects - Talal Husseini - Acropolitan Philosopher