Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Rob Weir
Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.

Is MirrorBrain down?

-Rob


-- Forwarded message --
From: Andrea Pescetti 
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: New links for localization web page
To: ooo-l...@incubator.apache.org


risto@saunalahti.fi wrote:
>
> I find out that downloading link in Finnish web-page is not working
> anymore:
> http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/localized/fi/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_fi.exe


It seems we lost MirrorBrain without notice:
http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/
appears to be completely empty. This is quite bad, we have lots of
MirrorBrain links around.


> Need to change link to:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/fi/3.3.0/


That one will likely work. Or
http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/localized/fi/3.3.0/
will work too, but SourceForge is probably ready for a significant
download traffic of version 3.3.0, while the Apache archives are not
meant to sustain significant traffic.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: New links for localization web page

2012-07-27 Thread Peter Pöml

Am 27.07.2012 um 09:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti :

> On 27/07/2012 Peter Pöml wrote:
>> I have configured a HTTP redirect to my replacement server
>> on .mirrorbrain.org now. I hope that helps you.
> 
> Thanks Peter, this helps a lot! Whatever we replace in the openoffice.org 
> HTML pages, there's a huge number of links out there pointing to 
> http://download.services.openoffice.org so it's very good to have them 
> redirected.

Understandably.

>> Why download.services.openoffice.org still has address 192.9.173.38 even
>> though we agreed (IIRC) that the DNS should be changed to my server, I
>> don't know...
> 
> I was about to ask Infra to redirect http://download.services.openoffice.org 
> to http://openoffice.mirrorbrain.org but it seems it's already done. The old 
> links appear to work normally now. Example:
> http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/localized/fi/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_fi.exe

It seems it's already done because, this morning, I configured 
download.services.openoffice.org to redirect to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org :) 
But if the DNS would be changed, the needless redirect could be saved, and it 
would continue to work when download.services.openoffice.org is switched off at 
some day. 

Peter



Re: New links for localization web page

2012-08-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 27/07/2012 Peter Pöml wrote:

Am 27.07.2012 um 09:32 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

I was about to ask Infra to redirect
http://download.services.openoffice.org to
http://openoffice.mirrorbrain.org but it seems it's already done.

It seems it's already done because, this morning, I configured
download.services.openoffice.org to redirect to
openoffice.mirrorbrain.org :) But if the DNS would be changed, the
needless redirect could be saved, and it would continue to work when
download.services.openoffice.org is switched off at some day.


OK, I opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5118 to make 
this temporary redirection permanent (at DNS level). Feel free to 
correct any mistakes directly in the issue page.


I assume that volunteers and committers that have access to the 
discontinued MirrorBrain server (like Joost and Marcus) will be offered 
access to the new server too, just in case.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: New links for localization web page

2012-08-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 05/08/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

On 27/07/2012 Peter Pöml wrote:

download.services.openoffice.org to redirect to
openoffice.mirrorbrain.org

OK, I opened https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5118 to make
this temporary redirection permanent (at DNS level). ...
I assume that volunteers and committers that have access to the
discontinued MirrorBrain server (like Joost and Marcus) will be offered
access to the new server too, just in case.


The redirection is now effective. So the legacy 
download.services.openoffice.org server points straight to MirrorBrain 
at the moment, and legacy download links work.


Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Joost Andrae

Hi Rob,

it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is still 
working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over 
system and it worked properly.


http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org


Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:

Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.

Is MirrorBrain down?



Kind regards, Joost




Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread drew
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> 
> it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is still 
> working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over 
> system and it worked properly.
> 
> http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org

hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it
looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net

which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.

arrgh...




> 
> 
> Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
> > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
> >
> > Is MirrorBrain down?
> >
> 
> Kind regards, Joost
> 
> 
> 




Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread drew jensen
On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
> > Hi Rob,
> > 
> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is still 
> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over 
> > system and it worked properly.
> > 
> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
> 
> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it

just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
then when tds.net is the actual server.

> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
> 
> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
> 
> arrgh...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
> > > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
> > >
> > > Is MirrorBrain down?
> > >
> > 
> > Kind regards, Joost
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
 wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>> > Hi Rob,
>> >
>> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is still
>> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over
>> > system and it worked properly.
>> >
>> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>>
>> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it
>
> just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
> mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
> then when tds.net is the actual server.
>

Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.

One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use on
the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
da.openoffice.org

The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
what the Finnish NL page uses.

>From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
failing.

-Rob


>> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
>> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
>>
>> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
>> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
>>
>> arrgh...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> > > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
>> > >
>> > > Is MirrorBrain down?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Kind regards, Joost
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
> >> > Hi Rob,
> >> >
> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is
> still
> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over
> >> > system and it worked properly.
> >> >
> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
> >>
> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it
> >
> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
> >
>
> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
>
> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use on
> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
> da.openoffice.org
>
> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
> what the Finnish NL page uses.
>
> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
> failing.
>
> -Rob
>

We seem to have MANY references to  download.services.openoffice.org
in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?

Should we request this?


>
> >> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
> >> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
> >>
> >> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
> >> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
> >>
> >> arrgh...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >> > > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is MirrorBrain down?
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards, Joost
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>



-- 

MzK

"I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
  -- Eddie Van Halen


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
>>  wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>> >> > Hi Rob,
>> >> >
>> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is
>> still
>> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over
>> >> > system and it worked properly.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>> >>
>> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it
>> >
>> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
>> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
>> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
>> >
>>
>> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
>>
>> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use on
>> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
>> da.openoffice.org
>>
>> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
>> what the Finnish NL page uses.
>>
>> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
>> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
>> failing.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
> We seem to have MANY references to  download.services.openoffice.org
> in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
> download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
>
> Should we request this?
>

If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
update the HTML.

But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
them) on ooo-site.

-Rob

>
>>
>> >> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
>> >> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
>> >>
>> >> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
>> >> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
>> >>
>> >> arrgh...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> >> > > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Is MirrorBrain down?
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards, Joost
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
>  As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
>   -- Eddie Van Halen


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
> >>  wrote:
> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Rob,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is
> >> still
> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a
> fail-over
> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
> >> >>
> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails
> and it
> >> >
> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
> >>
> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use on
> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
> >> da.openoffice.org
> >>
> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
> >>
> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
> >> failing.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >
> > We seem to have MANY references to  download.services.openoffice.org
> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
> >
> > Should we request this?
> >
>
> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
> update the HTML.
>
> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
> them) on ooo-site.
>
> -Rob
>

Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a mix
of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what about
the 3.2 references?




> >
> >>
> >> >> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
> >> >> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
> >> >>
> >> >> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly
> and
> >> >> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
> >> >>
> >> >> arrgh...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
> >> >> > > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Is MirrorBrain down?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kind regards, Joost
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> 
> > MzK
> >
> > "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
> >  As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
> >   -- Eddie Van Halen
>



-- 

MzK

"I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
  -- Eddie Van Halen


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/26/2012 09:12 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:

On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:


On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
  wrote:

On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:

On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:

Hi Rob,

it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is

still

working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over
system and it worked properly.

http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org


hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it


just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
then when tds.net is the actual server.



Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.

One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use on
the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
da.openoffice.org

The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
what the Finnish NL page uses.

 From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
failing.

-Rob



We seem to have MANY references to  download.services.openoffice.org
in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
download.services.openoffice.org ->  openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?

Should we request this?



If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
update the HTML.

But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
them) on ooo-site.


This is also the way I would go. Am I right that the 
"download.services.openoffice.org" service is still hosted by Oracle? 
Wasn't there a plan to decommission it? So, I wouldn't rely any longer 
on this but switch to, e.g., openoffice.mirrorbrain.org as it's already 
done for the legacy downloads.


Marcus




looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net

which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.

arrgh...







Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:

Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.

Is MirrorBrain down?



Kind regards, Joost


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi Rob,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is
>> >> still
>> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a
>> fail-over
>> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails
>> and it
>> >> >
>> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
>> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
>> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
>> >>
>> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use on
>> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
>> >> da.openoffice.org
>> >>
>> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
>> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
>> >>
>> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
>> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
>> >> failing.
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >
>> > We seem to have MANY references to  download.services.openoffice.org
>> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
>> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
>> >
>> > Should we request this?
>> >
>>
>> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
>> update the HTML.
>>
>> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
>> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
>> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
>> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
>> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
>> them) on ooo-site.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
> Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
> occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a mix
> of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
> could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what about
> the 3.2 references?
>

I do have some stats on MirrorBrain downloads of OOo.  So in the most
recent full month (June) the download counts were:

OOo 3.3.0: 586,785
OOo 3.2.1: 1,365
OOo 3.2.0: 166
OOo 3.1.0: 23
OOo 3.0.1: 24
OOo 3.0.0: 60

(In that same time period AOO 3.4.0 had 4M downloads)

So I think we should focus on the OOo 3.3.0 links.  They are being
used over 400x more often then the 3.2.1 links.

Do we know whether SF has a complete copy of the OOo 3.3.0 files, with
all languages/platforms?

-Rob

>
>
>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
>> >> >> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
>> >> >>
>> >> >> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly
>> and
>> >> >> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> arrgh...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> >> >> > > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Is MirrorBrain down?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kind regards, Joost
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> 
>> > MzK
>> >
>> > "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
>> >  As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
>> >   -- Eddie Van Halen
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
>  As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
>   -- Eddie Van Halen


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi Rob,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is
>> >> still
>> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a
>> fail-over
>> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>> >> >>
>> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails
>> and it
>> >> >
>> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
>> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
>> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
>> >>
>> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use on
>> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
>> >> da.openoffice.org
>> >>
>> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
>> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
>> >>
>> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
>> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
>> >> failing.
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >
>> > We seem to have MANY references to  download.services.openoffice.org
>> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
>> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
>> >
>> > Should we request this?
>> >
>>
>> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
>> update the HTML.
>>
>> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
>> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
>> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
>> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
>> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
>> them) on ooo-site.
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>
> Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
> occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a mix
> of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
> could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what about
> the 3.2 references?
>

I do have some stats on MirrorBrain downloads of OOo.  So in the most
recent full month (June) the download counts were:

OOo 3.3.0: 586,785
OOo 3.2.1: 1,365
OOo 3.2.0: 166
OOo 3.1.0: 23
OOo 3.0.1: 24
OOo 3.0.0: 60

(In that same time period AOO 3.4.0 had 4M downloads)

So I think we should focus on the OOo 3.3.0 links.  They are being
used over 400x more often then the 3.2.1 links.

Do we know whether SF has a complete copy of the OOo 3.3.0 files, with
all languages/platforms?

-Rob

>
>
>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> >> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
>> >> >> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
>> >> >>
>> >> >> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly
>> and
>> >> >> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> arrgh...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> >> >> > > Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > Is MirrorBrain down?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kind regards, Joost
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> 
>> > MzK
>> >
>> > "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
>> >  As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
>> >   -- Eddie Van Halen
>>
>
>
>
> --
> 
> MzK
>
> "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
>  As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
>   -- Eddie Van Halen


Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Dave Brondsema
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk 
> wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
> >> >> >> > Hi Rob,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page
> is
> >> >> still
> >> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a
> >> fail-over
> >> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails
> >> and it
> >> >> >
> >> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes
> - I
> >> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me
> other
> >> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
> >> >>
> >> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we use
> on
> >> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
> >> >> da.openoffice.org
> >> >>
> >> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
> >> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
> >> >>
> >> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are working
> >> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
> >> >> failing.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Rob
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > We seem to have MANY references to  download.services.openoffice.org
> >> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
> >> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
> >> >
> >> > Should we request this?
> >> >
> >>
> >> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
> >> update the HTML.
> >>
> >> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
> >> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
> >> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
> >> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
> >> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
> >> them) on ooo-site.
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >
> > Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
> > occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a
> mix
> > of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
> > could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what about
> > the 3.2 references?
> >
>
> I do have some stats on MirrorBrain downloads of OOo.  So in the most
> recent full month (June) the download counts were:
>
> OOo 3.3.0: 586,785
> OOo 3.2.1: 1,365
> OOo 3.2.0: 166
> OOo 3.1.0: 23
> OOo 3.0.1: 24
> OOo 3.0.0: 60
>
> (In that same time period AOO 3.4.0 had 4M downloads)
>
> So I think we should focus on the OOo 3.3.0 links.  They are being
> used over 400x more often then the 3.2.1 links.
>
> Do we know whether SF has a complete copy of the OOo 3.3.0 files, with
> all languages/platforms?
>
>
Yes, I believe SF should have all the 3.3.0 files.  They should align with
existing directory structure too.  A few examples:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/hu/3.3.0/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/packages/7/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/extended/iso/en/


-- 
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Principal Software Engineer - sf.net
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Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dave Brondsema  wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk 
> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk 
> > wrote:
> > >> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir 
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
> > >> >>  wrote:
> > >> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
> > >> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
> > >> >> >> > Hi Rob,
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page
> > is
> > >> >> still
> > >> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a
> > >> fail-over
> > >> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times
> fails
> > >> and it
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works
> sometimes
> > - I
> > >> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me
> > other
> > >> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we
> use
> > on
> > >> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
> > >> >> da.openoffice.org
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
> > >> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are
> working
> > >> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
> > >> >> failing.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -Rob
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > We seem to have MANY references to
> download.services.openoffice.org
> > >> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
> > >> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
> > >> >
> > >> > Should we request this?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
> > >> update the HTML.
> > >>
> > >> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
> > >> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
> > >> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
> > >> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
> > >> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
> > >> them) on ooo-site.
> > >>
> > >> -Rob
> > >>
> > >
> > > Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
> > > occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a
> > mix
> > > of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
> > > could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what
> about
> > > the 3.2 references?
> > >
> >
> > I do have some stats on MirrorBrain downloads of OOo.  So in the most
> > recent full month (June) the download counts were:
> >
> > OOo 3.3.0: 586,785
> > OOo 3.2.1: 1,365
> > OOo 3.2.0: 166
> > OOo 3.1.0: 23
> > OOo 3.0.1: 24
> > OOo 3.0.0: 60
> >
> > (In that same time period AOO 3.4.0 had 4M downloads)
> >
> > So I think we should focus on the OOo 3.3.0 links.  They are being
> > used over 400x more often then the 3.2.1 links.
> >
> > Do we know whether SF has a complete copy of the OOo 3.3.0 files, with
> > all languages/platforms?
> >
> >
> Yes, I believe SF should have all the 3.3.0 files.  They should align with
> existing directory structure too.  A few examples:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/hu/3.3.0/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/packages/7/
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/extended/iso/en/
>
>
> --
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> Principal Software Engineer - sf.net
> Geeknet
>
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We could certainly change all the 3.2 references to 3.3 (at SourceForge) if
that's your thinking. I'd need to check on the naming for 3.3 vs 3.2. It's
doable...it would probably be better to do areas at a time rather than all
at once.


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Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dave Brondsema  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk 
>> wrote:
>> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk 
>> > wrote:
>> > >> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir 
>> wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
>> > >> >>  wrote:
>> > >> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>> > >> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>> > >> >> >> > Hi Rob,
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page
>> > is
>> > >> >> still
>> > >> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a
>> > >> fail-over
>> > >> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times
>> fails
>> > >> and it
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works
>> sometimes
>> > - I
>> > >> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me
>> > other
>> > >> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we
>> use
>> > on
>> > >> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
>> > >> >> da.openoffice.org
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
>> > >> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are
>> working
>> > >> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
>> > >> >> failing.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> -Rob
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >
>> > >> > We seem to have MANY references to
>> download.services.openoffice.org
>> > >> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
>> > >> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Should we request this?
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
>> > >> update the HTML.
>> > >>
>> > >> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
>> > >> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
>> > >> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
>> > >> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
>> > >> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
>> > >> them) on ooo-site.
>> > >>
>> > >> -Rob
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
>> > > occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a
>> > mix
>> > > of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
>> > > could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what
>> about
>> > > the 3.2 references?
>> > >
>> >
>> > I do have some stats on MirrorBrain downloads of OOo.  So in the most
>> > recent full month (June) the download counts were:
>> >
>> > OOo 3.3.0: 586,785
>> > OOo 3.2.1: 1,365
>> > OOo 3.2.0: 166
>> > OOo 3.1.0: 23
>> > OOo 3.0.1: 24
>> > OOo 3.0.0: 60
>> >
>> > (In that same time period AOO 3.4.0 had 4M downloads)
>> >
>> > So I think we should focus on the OOo 3.3.0 links.  They are being
>> > used over 400x more often then the 3.2.1 links.
>> >
>> > Do we know whether SF has a complete copy of the OOo 3.3.0 files, with
>> > all languages/platforms?
>> >
>> >
>> Yes, I believe SF should have all the 3.3.0 files.  They should align with
>> existing directory structure too.  A few examples:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/hu/3.3.0/
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/packages/7/
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/extended/iso/en/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dave Brondsema
>> Principal Software Engineer - sf.net
>> Geeknet
>>
>> --
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>> intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
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>> notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any
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>>
> We could certainly change all the 3.2 references to 3.3 (at SourceForge) if
> that's your thinking. I'd need to check on the naming for 3.3 vs 3.2. It

Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Dave Brondsema  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk 
>>> wrote:
>>> > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Kay Schenk 
>>> > wrote:
>>> > >> > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Rob Weir 
>>> wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM, drew jensen
>>> > >> >>  wrote:
>>> > >> >> > On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>>> > >> >> >> > Hi Rob,
>>> > >> >> >> >
>>> > >> >> >> > it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page
>>> > is
>>> > >> >> still
>>> > >> >> >> > working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a
>>> > >> fail-over
>>> > >> >> >> > system and it worked properly.
>>> > >> >> >> >
>>> > >> >> >> > http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>>> > >> >> >>
>>> > >> >> >> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times
>>> fails
>>> > >> and it
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> > just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works
>>> sometimes
>>> > - I
>>> > >> >> > mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me
>>> > other
>>> > >> >> > then when tds.net is the actual server.
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> Scanning over the website I see two kinds of mirror brain links.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> One kind points to openoffice.mirrorbrain.org.  That is what we
>>> use
>>> > on
>>> > >> >> the legacy download page and some of the NL pages, e.g.,
>>> > >> >> da.openoffice.org
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> The other kind links to download.services.openoffice.org.  That is
>>> > >> >> what the Finnish NL page uses.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> From what I can tell the openoffice.mirrorbrain.org ones are
>>> working
>>> > >> >> fine.  it is the download.services.openoffice.org ones that are
>>> > >> >> failing.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> -Rob
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > We seem to have MANY references to
>>> download.services.openoffice.org
>>> > >> > in the web pages. Maybe INFRA could do a DNS redirect for us from
>>> > >> > download.services.openoffice.org -> openoffice.mirrorbrain.org?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Should we request this?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >>
>>> > >> If it is all in HTML pages that we control, it would be better to
>>> > >> update the HTML.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> But I wonder whether we should just point them all to SourceForge?
>>> > >> So far no one has taken the lead on figuring out what we need to do to
>>> > >> maintain MirrorBrain.  So we're constantly one hiccup away for that
>>> > >> service failing entirely.   If the directory structure is the same
>>> > >> this could be an easy search and replace operation (or a small set of
>>> > >> them) on ooo-site.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> -Rob
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > > Before I stopped my search of the website content ("grep"), I had 3133
>>> > > occurrences.  Maybe 75% of the way done I think. So, a lot...so far, a
>>> > mix
>>> > > of 3.3 downloads (at SourceForge), and 3.2 (not at SourceForge). So, we
>>> > > could definitely change the 3.3 references to SourceForge, but what
>>> about
>>> > > the 3.2 references?
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > I do have some stats on MirrorBrain downloads of OOo.  So in the most
>>> > recent full month (June) the download counts were:
>>> >
>>> > OOo 3.3.0: 586,785
>>> > OOo 3.2.1: 1,365
>>> > OOo 3.2.0: 166
>>> > OOo 3.1.0: 23
>>> > OOo 3.0.1: 24
>>> > OOo 3.0.0: 60
>>> >
>>> > (In that same time period AOO 3.4.0 had 4M downloads)
>>> >
>>> > So I think we should focus on the OOo 3.3.0 links.  They are being
>>> > used over 400x more often then the 3.2.1 links.
>>> >
>>> > Do we know whether SF has a complete copy of the OOo 3.3.0 files, with
>>> > all languages/platforms?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Yes, I believe SF should have all the 3.3.0 files.  They should align with
>>> existing directory structure too.  A few examples:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/hu/3.3.0/
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/packages/7/
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/extended/iso/en/
>>>
>>>
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Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-26 Thread Peter Pöml
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 09:56:40 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
> Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
> 
> Is MirrorBrain down?
> 
> -Rob

No, but the little server running MirrorBrain doesn't have any files
anymore. The directory is empty since a few weeks (a so-called "shared
folder" mounted in the VirtualBox guest running MirrorBrain). I don't
know why that is, if intentional or oversight, you'd have to ask Oracle
to find out. I have configured a HTTP redirect to my replacement server
on .mirrorbrain.org now. I hope that helps you.
Why download.services.openoffice.org still has address 192.9.173.38 even
though we agreed (IIRC) that the DNS should be changed to my server, I
don't know...
(If anyone wants to fix the Oracle-hosted download server 192.9.173.38,
there's also another annoying problem: network setup seems to have been
changed some months ago; scanning mirrors per FTP is no longer possible.
NAT doesn't allow outgoing FTP anymore.)

Peter

> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Andrea Pescetti 
> Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: New links for localization web page
> To: ooo-l...@incubator.apache.org
> 
> 
> risto@saunalahti.fi wrote:
> >
> > I find out that downloading link in Finnish web-page is not working
> > anymore:
> > http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/localized/fi/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_fi.exe
> 
> 
> It seems we lost MirrorBrain without notice:
> http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/
> appears to be completely empty. This is quite bad, we have lots of
> MirrorBrain links around.
> 
> 
> > Need to change link to:
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/fi/3.3.0/
> 
> 
> That one will likely work. Or
> http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/localized/fi/3.3.0/
> will work too, but SourceForge is probably ready for a significant
> download traffic of version 3.3.0, while the Apache archives are not
> meant to sustain significant traffic.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.


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Re: Fwd: New links for localization web page

2012-07-27 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 27/07/2012 Peter Pöml wrote:

I have configured a HTTP redirect to my replacement server
on .mirrorbrain.org now. I hope that helps you.


Thanks Peter, this helps a lot! Whatever we replace in the 
openoffice.org HTML pages, there's a huge number of links out there 
pointing to http://download.services.openoffice.org so it's very good to 
have them redirected.



Why download.services.openoffice.org still has address 192.9.173.38 even
though we agreed (IIRC) that the DNS should be changed to my server, I
don't know...


I was about to ask Infra to redirect 
http://download.services.openoffice.org to 
http://openoffice.mirrorbrain.org but it seems it's already done. The 
old links appear to work normally now. Example:

http://download.services.openoffice.org/files/localized/fi/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_fi.exe

Regards,
  Andrea.


Removing a Mirror from MirrorBrain [Was: Re: New links for localization web page]

2012-07-26 Thread Dave Fisher

On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:43 AM, drew jensen wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>>> Hi Rob,
>>> 
>>> it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is still 
>>> working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over 
>>> system and it worked properly.
>>> 
>>> http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>> 
>> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it
> 
> just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
> mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
> then when tds.net is the actual server.
> 
>> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
>> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net

So the answer should be to remove that mirror from the "Brain".

Does anyone know how to do that?

Regards,
Dave



>> 
>> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
>> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
>> 
>> arrgh...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
 Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
 
 Is MirrorBrain down?
 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards, Joost
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 



Re: Removing a Mirror from MirrorBrain [Was: Re: New links for localization web page]

2012-07-26 Thread Joe Schaefer
The sooner we stop clinging onto that unsupported
service the better IMO.




>
> From: Dave Fisher 
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:59 AM
>Subject: Removing a Mirror from MirrorBrain [Was: Re: New links for 
>localization web page]
> 
>
>On Jul 26, 2012, at 7:43 AM, drew jensen wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 10:35 -0400, drew wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2012-07-26 at 16:15 +0200, Joost Andrae wrote:
>>>> Hi Rob,
>>>> 
>>>> it seems so...but Peter's own MirrorBrain OOo MirrorBrain page is still 
>>>> working. In the past we asked Peter sometimes to use it as a fail-over 
>>>> system and it worked properly.
>>>> 
>>>> http://ooo.mirrorbrain.org
>>> 
>>> hmmm - well I can get it to work sometimes, but other times fails and it
>> 
>> just to clarify - I don't mean that the link above works sometimes - I
>> mean that the download triggered from the OO.o site works for me other
>> then when tds.net is the actual server.
>> 
>>> looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
>>> http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net
>
>So the answer should be to remove that mirror from the "Brain".
>
>Does anyone know how to do that?
>
>Regards,
>Dave
>
>
>
>>> 
>>> which isn't surprising I suppose as when I go to that site directly and
>>> then to the OpenOffice page - all files have all been removed.
>>> 
>>> arrgh...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 26.07.2012 15:56, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>> Forwarding from the ooo-L10n list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is MirrorBrain down?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards, Joost
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>
>
>
>

Re: Removing a Mirror from MirrorBrain [Was: Re: New links for localization web page]

2012-07-26 Thread Joost Andrae

Hi,


looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net


So the answer should be to remove that mirror from the "Brain".

Does anyone know how to do that?



someone with shell access to MirrorBrain (Marcus Lange, Peter Poeml and 
me) can remove that entry from MirrorBrain's database (command: 'mb 
disable tds'). I did that as I still have user access to it but it has 
no effect to download.services.openoffice.org. Maybe the web service 
needs some time.


The command 'mb list' returns the following active mirrors:

cermin.safve.my
openoffice.mirror.aussiehq.net.au
mirror-fpt-telecom-1.fpt.net
ftp.roedu.net
mirrors.evolva.ro
mirror.7he.at
ftp.chu.edu.tw
ftp.akl.lt
openoffice.cs.utah.edu
ftp.kaist.ac.kr
ring.yamanashi.ac.jp
mirror.space.kz
sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
mirror.pscigrid.gov.ph
ring.maffin.ad.jp
mirror.switch.ch
mirror-cybernet.lums.edu.pk
artfiles.org
mirror.yongbok.net
ftp.oss.eznetsols.org
openoffice.petsads.us
ring.k-opti.com
kambing.ui.ac.id
mirror.averse.net
openoffice.patan.com.ar
mirror.aarnet.edu.au
ftp.saix.net
ftp.osuosl.org
openoffice.org.mirrors.irontec.com
openoffice.mirrors.ilisys.com.au
ring.nihon-u.ac.jp
ucho.ignum.cz
halifax.rwth-aachen.de
ftp.piotrkosoft.net
ftp.is.co.za
ftp.byfly.by
ftp.snt.utwente.nl
mirror-fpt-telecom-2.fpt.net
www.ellak.gr
mirror.pacific.net.au
ftp.proxad.net
ftp.man.poznan.pl
ftp.bayanat.com.sa
ftp.linux.org.tr
ftp.rhnet.is
openoffice.mirror.rafal.ca
ftp.rz.tu-bs.de
ftp3.gwdg.de
ftp4.gwdg.de
mirror.adriaticus.org
mirror.dacentec.com
ftp.fernuni-hagen.de
ftp.astral.ro
ftp.kddilabs.jp
ftp.jaist.ac.jp
ring.yokohama.riken.jp
mirrors.bevc.net
ftp.fsf.hu
openoffice.thisinfo.info
ftp.fu-berlin.de
mirrors.fe.up.pt
ciril.fr
ring.aist.go.jp
ftp.idilis.ro
ftp.udc.es
waia.asn.au
ftp.tpnet.pl
mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
mirrors.dotsrc.org
upm.edu.my
ring.u-toyama.ac.jp
ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp
ftp.uni-muenster.de
ooo.mirror.dkm.cz
ftp.isu.edu.tw
mirror.checkdomain.de
ftp.tu-chemnitz.de
ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de
openoffice.dcc.fc.up.pt
openoffice.c3sl.ufpr.br
ftp.uni-erlangen.de
ftp.solnet.ch
ring.ix.oita-u.ac.jp
linorg.usp.br
ooo.mirror.garr.it
openoffice.cict.fr
ftp.uasw.edu
labby.co.uk
ftp.heanet.ie
gd.tuwien.ac.at
ftp.cc.uoc.gr
mirror.ac.ke
ftp.ntua.gr
ftp.twaren.net
openoffice.mirrors.pair.com
ftp5.gwdg.de
ftp.free.fr
ftp.sh.cvut.cz
mirrors.virginmedia.com
ftp.spnet.net
ring.nict.go.jp
mirror.isoc.org.il
ftp.belnet.be
mirror.lupaworld.com
ftp.openoffice.skynet.be
ring.airnet.ne.jp
www.mirrorservice.org
ring.shibaura-it.ac.jp
ftp.sunet.se
ftp.cse.yzu.edu.tw
iitm.ac.in
ftp.funet.fi
ftp.ussg.iu.edu


Kind regards, Joost



Re: Removing a Mirror from MirrorBrain [Was: Re: New links for localization web page]

2012-07-26 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 07/26/2012 06:15 PM, schrieb Joost Andrae:

Hi,


looks like it fails whenever this site is involved
http://openoffice.mirrors.tds.net


So the answer should be to remove that mirror from the "Brain".

Does anyone know how to do that?



someone with shell access to MirrorBrain (Marcus Lange, Peter Poeml and
me) can remove that entry from MirrorBrain's database (command: 'mb
disable tds'). I did that as I still have user access to it but it has
no effect to download.services.openoffice.org. Maybe the web service
needs some time.


Just in case someone would ask:
It seems that I've no longer access to the machine since a longer time 
as I cannot login.


Marcus




The command 'mb list' returns the following active mirrors:

cermin.safve.my
openoffice.mirror.aussiehq.net.au
mirror-fpt-telecom-1.fpt.net
ftp.roedu.net
mirrors.evolva.ro
mirror.7he.at
ftp.chu.edu.tw
ftp.akl.lt
openoffice.cs.utah.edu
ftp.kaist.ac.kr
ring.yamanashi.ac.jp
mirror.space.kz
sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
mirror.pscigrid.gov.ph
ring.maffin.ad.jp
mirror.switch.ch
mirror-cybernet.lums.edu.pk
artfiles.org
mirror.yongbok.net
ftp.oss.eznetsols.org
openoffice.petsads.us
ring.k-opti.com
kambing.ui.ac.id
mirror.averse.net
openoffice.patan.com.ar
mirror.aarnet.edu.au
ftp.saix.net
ftp.osuosl.org
openoffice.org.mirrors.irontec.com
openoffice.mirrors.ilisys.com.au
ring.nihon-u.ac.jp
ucho.ignum.cz
halifax.rwth-aachen.de
ftp.piotrkosoft.net
ftp.is.co.za
ftp.byfly.by
ftp.snt.utwente.nl
mirror-fpt-telecom-2.fpt.net
www.ellak.gr
mirror.pacific.net.au
ftp.proxad.net
ftp.man.poznan.pl
ftp.bayanat.com.sa
ftp.linux.org.tr
ftp.rhnet.is
openoffice.mirror.rafal.ca
ftp.rz.tu-bs.de
ftp3.gwdg.de
ftp4.gwdg.de
mirror.adriaticus.org
mirror.dacentec.com
ftp.fernuni-hagen.de
ftp.astral.ro
ftp.kddilabs.jp
ftp.jaist.ac.jp
ring.yokohama.riken.jp
mirrors.bevc.net
ftp.fsf.hu
openoffice.thisinfo.info
ftp.fu-berlin.de
mirrors.fe.up.pt
ciril.fr
ring.aist.go.jp
ftp.idilis.ro
ftp.udc.es
waia.asn.au
ftp.tpnet.pl
mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca
mirrors.dotsrc.org
upm.edu.my
ring.u-toyama.ac.jp
ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp
ftp.uni-muenster.de
ooo.mirror.dkm.cz
ftp.isu.edu.tw
mirror.checkdomain.de
ftp.tu-chemnitz.de
ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de
openoffice.dcc.fc.up.pt
openoffice.c3sl.ufpr.br
ftp.uni-erlangen.de
ftp.solnet.ch
ring.ix.oita-u.ac.jp
linorg.usp.br
ooo.mirror.garr.it
openoffice.cict.fr
ftp.uasw.edu
labby.co.uk
ftp.heanet.ie
gd.tuwien.ac.at
ftp.cc.uoc.gr
mirror.ac.ke
ftp.ntua.gr
ftp.twaren.net
openoffice.mirrors.pair.com
ftp5.gwdg.de
ftp.free.fr
ftp.sh.cvut.cz
mirrors.virginmedia.com
ftp.spnet.net
ring.nict.go.jp
mirror.isoc.org.il
ftp.belnet.be
mirror.lupaworld.com
ftp.openoffice.skynet.be
ring.airnet.ne.jp
www.mirrorservice.org
ring.shibaura-it.ac.jp
ftp.sunet.se
ftp.cse.yzu.edu.tw
iitm.ac.in
ftp.funet.fi
ftp.ussg.iu.edu


Kind regards, Joost