Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni


--- Gio 1/3/12, Jürgen Schmidt  ha scritto:


> >
> > The author of the Croatian dictionary very nicely
> relicensed
> > it under AL2, so I think we should respond by shipping
> it.
> > Russian has also been requested.
> >
> > Perhaps it's just easier to go ahead and bundle the
> dictionaries
> > that were available last in our repository. That should
> cover
> > everyone's expectations for this release.
> 
> We need anyway a list of dictionary - link to the dic in the
> extension 
> repo because we download them from there on demand.
> 
> And that is something that a lot of people can prepare ;-)
> HINT HINT HINT !!!
> 


OK, OK ... I am busy now but I will work on that tonight
:-P.

Hmm.. while here, I would like someone else to review the
NOTICE file. I think I have been the only one to check
that key file and I am sure I missed some stuff (expat
and redland for sure).

Pedro.



Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 3/1/12 5:03 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:



--- Gio 1/3/12, Jürgen Schmidt  ha scritto:

...


But we still need feedback about the dictionaries people
would like to bundle for their language. See 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids

Reminder, if we don't get the feedback we only focus on some
obvious dictionaries and let it up to the users to install
them



The author of the Croatian dictionary very nicely relicensed
it under AL2, so I think we should respond by shipping it.
Russian has also been requested.

Perhaps it's just easier to go ahead and bundle the dictionaries
that were available last in our repository. That should cover
everyone's expectations for this release.


We need anyway a list of dictionary - link to the dic in the extension 
repo because we download them from there on demand.


And that is something that a lot of people can prepare ;-) HINT HINT 
HINT !!!


Juergen



Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni


--- Gio 1/3/12, Jürgen Schmidt  ha scritto:

...
> 
> But we still need feedback about the dictionaries people
> would like to bundle for their language. See 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids
> 
> Reminder, if we don't get the feedback we only focus on some
> obvious dictionaries and let it up to the users to install
> them
> 

The author of the Croatian dictionary very nicely relicensed
it under AL2, so I think we should respond by shipping it.
Russian has also been requested.

Perhaps it's just easier to go ahead and bundle the dictionaries
that were available last in our repository. That should cover
everyone's expectations for this release.

Pedro.



Spell checker or dictionary... (was Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file)

2012-03-01 Thread Ross Gardler
On 1 March 2012 15:24, Raphael Bircher  wrote:
> Am 01.03.12 15:38, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

...

 On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:16:33 +
 Ross Gardler wrote:

> I'm assuming no dictionary is included since every word I have
> is reported as being spelt wrong.

...

> The problem is not realy that there is no dic. The problem is that the
> spellchecker works without dic. It would be not so confusing if you see no
> red lines ;-) It would be good if the spellchecker put a message "no
> dicionary installed" an the screen instead of working without dic. But this
> is more a low priority issue.

I agree. Some feedback to users with no dictionary present would be a
nice-to-have. I realise this is a developer release but a project with
this profile will get users downloading it.

This problem, from a user perspective, is made worse by the fact that
this install (at least on windows 7) seems to hide away previous
installs of OOo so there is no longer a version with a working
spell-checker. We can try and warn users of this change, but they will
still download and complain.

Ross


Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 01.03.12 15:38, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

On 3/1/12 3:32 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Am 01.03.12 15:28, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:16:33 +
Ross Gardler wrote:


I'm assuming no dictionary is included since every word I have
is reported as being spelt wrong.

As far as I know the dictionaries are installed locally, not
included with the file. Check the language selected for the
document, which should be shown on the Status Bar at window
bottom. If this does not fit your default language, you shuold be
able to Select All, then /Tools /Language: For all text (or for
selection - On some versions of OOo For all text didn't work
reliably, but For selection did) and change to your default
language, which might help the spell check.

And at AOO you have to install a dic extension first. Because the
license we can not ship it with AOO. Dic's are maintained outside the
Project.

As you can see users would be confused and we are working on bundling 
dictionaries (downloaded from the extension repo) with the binary 
releases. I don't have the jira issue in place but I think that this 
way of bundling the pre-built binary extensions is allowed.
The problem is not realy that there is no dic. The problem is that the 
spellchecker works without dic. It would be not so confusing if you see 
no red lines ;-) It would be good if the spellchecker put a message "no 
dicionary installed" an the screen instead of working without dic. But 
this is more a low priority issue.


But we still need feedback about the dictionaries people would like to 
bundle for their language. See 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids

As I know, German dictionaries are maintained by Karl Zeiler


Reminder, if we don't get the feedback we only focus on some obvious 
dictionaries and let it up to the users to install them


Juergen






Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Il giorno Thu, 01 Mar 2012 15:38:27 +0100
Jürgen Schmidt  ha scritto:

> I don't have the jira issue in place but I think that this way 
> of bundling the pre-built binary extensions is allowed.

There is this:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117

Regards,
-- 
Gianluca Turconi
Lettura gratuita o acquisto di libri e racconti di fantascienza,
fantasy, horror, noir, narrativa fantastica e tradizionale:  
http://www.letturefantastiche.com/


Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Jürgen Schmidt

On 3/1/12 3:32 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote:

Am 01.03.12 15:28, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:16:33 +
Ross Gardler wrote:


I'm assuming no dictionary is included since every word I have
is reported as being spelt wrong.

As far as I know the dictionaries are installed locally, not
included with the file. Check the language selected for the
document, which should be shown on the Status Bar at window
bottom. If this does not fit your default language, you shuold be
able to Select All, then /Tools /Language: For all text (or for
selection - On some versions of OOo For all text didn't work
reliably, but For selection did) and change to your default
language, which might help the spell check.

And at AOO you have to install a dic extension first. Because the
license we can not ship it with AOO. Dic's are maintained outside the
Project.

As you can see users would be confused and we are working on bundling 
dictionaries (downloaded from the extension repo) with the binary 
releases. I don't have the jira issue in place but I think that this way 
of bundling the pre-built binary extensions is allowed.


But we still need feedback about the dictionaries people would like to 
bundle for their language. See 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Bundled+Writing+Aids


Reminder, if we don't get the feedback we only focus on some obvious 
dictionaries and let it up to the users to install them


Juergen




Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Raphael Bircher

Am 01.03.12 15:28, schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:16:33 +
Ross Gardler  wrote:


I'm assuming no dictionary is included since every word I have
is reported as being spelt wrong.

As far as I know the dictionaries are installed locally, not
included with the file.  Check the language selected for the
document, which should be shown on the Status Bar at window
bottom. If this does not fit your default language, you shuold be
able to Select All, then /Tools /Language: For all text (or for
selection - On some versions of OOo For all text didn't work
reliably, but For selection did) and change to your default
language, which might help the spell check.
And at AOO you have to install a dic extension first. Because the 
license we can not ship it with AOO. Dic's are maintained outside the 
Project.




Re: Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:16:33 +
Ross Gardler  wrote:

> I'm assuming no dictionary is included since every word I have
> is reported as being spelt wrong.

As far as I know the dictionaries are installed locally, not
included with the file.  Check the language selected for the
document, which should be shown on the Status Bar at window
bottom. If this does not fit your default language, you shuold be
able to Select All, then /Tools /Language: For all text (or for
selection - On some versions of OOo For all text didn't work
reliably, but For selection did) and change to your default
language, which might help the spell check. 
-- 
Rory O'Farrell 


Test result: LIbreOffice crashes, AOO doesn't, on OOXML file

2012-03-01 Thread Ross Gardler
I thought the team might like to hear about one of my test results.

I have just received a .docx with some rather dodgy formatting
techniques used by the author. My partner tried to open it in
LibreOffice, on both Linux and Windows - it crashed. I tried it in AOO
(Windows 7 with Libre Office, OpenOffice and MS Office) and it did a
reasonable job of it - certainly much better than crashing. The only
real problems I see is with the strange formatting techniques employed
by the author.

I'm assuming no dictionary is included since every word I have is
reported as being spelt wrong.

Ross

-- 
Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
Programme Leader (Open Development)
OpenDirective http://opendirective.com