Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-13 Thread Douglas Houston
Can I just check people received the input file? I used the Nabble forum to
attach it ...



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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-13 Thread Fredrik Wallner
I wrote this reply yesterday, but it didn’t make it to the babble list somehow.

When I try 
obabel ~/Desktop/crystal_ligand_flex.sdf -O tst-res.sdf --confab --conf 5
(with your example file), I get a file with 2900 conformers written, so I 
believe there is a problem with your installation. Your list of ops indicate to 
me that the eigen support failed in your compile. I’m not an expert in 
compilation issues, but if you attach the output of cake and make we could try 
to see if there is a problem. To be sure to capture everything, I’d recommend 
that you do it with a clean build directory.

Kind regards,
Fredrik

12 maj 2014 kl. 11:36 skrev Douglas Houston dhous...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk:

 Actually that input file isn't the most flexible, here is a different one
 that is more flexible and also only generates one conformer.
 
 crystal_ligand_flex.sdf
 http://forums.openbabel.org/file/n4657427/crystal_ligand_flex.sdf  
 
 
 
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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-12 Thread Douglas Houston
Actually that input file isn't the most flexible, here is a different one
that is more flexible and also only generates one conformer.

crystal_ligand_flex.sdf
http://forums.openbabel.org/file/n4657427/crystal_ligand_flex.sdf  



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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-09 Thread Douglas Houston
It's gone worryingly quiet ...



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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-09 Thread Fredrik Wallner
Well, you have been asked to provide your input file for easier debugging, one 
option could be to try that…
Anyway, obconformer only outputs one conformer according to it’s documentation, 
that one is written on stdout, so it’s included in your output (which by the 
way didn’t appear when I read the message in my email, only on 
forums.openbabel.org). If you would like to have it in a file, the doc states 
that you need to pipe it like:
/usr/local/bin/obconformer 10 10 crystal_ligand.sdf  generatedconformer.sdf

Have you made sure that when you call obabel, it’s your newly compiled version 
that’s compiled? If you run obabel -V, it will tell you the compilation date 
together with the version number. Did you get any messages during the 
recompilation?

Kind regards,
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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-07 Thread Fredrik Wallner
Hi,

Does the input file contain 3D-coordinates? As far as I have seen, neither 
confab nor conformer will generate an initial 3D structure if it’s not already 
present. 

Kind regards,
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6 maj 2014 kl. 19:39 skrev Douglas Houston dhous...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk:

 Anyone have any comment on this? I am observing the same problem as OP. I am 
 using the following:
 
 /usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel
 crystal_ligand.sdf -O tmp.sdf --conformer --nconf 50  --writeconformers
 
 I only get 1 conformer in the 1 output file.
 
 I have also tried the following:
 
 /usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel
 crystal_ligand.sdf -O tmp.sdf --confab -rcutoff 0.1 -ecutoff 10 --original
 --verbose
 
 Still get 1 conformer in the 1 output file. 
 
 The verbose option seems to have no effect, neither do the rcutoff and
 ecutoff options. I believe there may be something wrong with the way obabel
 is handling the options, it's like they aren't being used at all.
 
 Can anyone honestly state that they have observed this feature actually
 working?
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-07 Thread Douglas Houston
/usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel -L

outputs:

charges
descriptors
fingerprints
forcefields
formats
loaders
ops

How do I tell?



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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-07 Thread Douglas Houston
itiwks- /usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel -L ops
0xoutfile.xxx Additional file output
addfilenameAppend input filename to title
AddInIndexAppend input index to title
AddPolarHAdds hydrogen to polar atoms only
canonicalCanonicalize the atom order
energyForceField Energy Evaluation (not displayed in GUI)
fillUC Fill the unit cell (strict or keepconnect)
gen2DGenerate 2D coordinates
gen3DGenerate 3D coordinates
largest# descr Output # mols with largest values
minimizeForceField Energy Minimization (not displayed in GUI)
partialchargemethod Calculate partial charges by specified method
readconformerAdjacent conformers combined into a single molecule
sIsomorphism filter(-s, -v options replacement)(not displayed in GUI)
smallest# descr Output # mols with smallest values of descriptor(not
displayed in GUI)
sortdesc Sort by descriptor(~desc for reverse)
unique[param] remove duplicates by descriptor;default inchi
vIsomorphism filter(-s, -v options replacement)(not displayed in GUI)

I see no mention of conformers right enough ... 

However obabel -H output includes the line:

--writeconformers Output multiple conformers separately






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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-07 Thread Maciek Wójcikowski
Hi,

Is the input molecule flexible? It would be much easier to test if you
could sent it to the list.


Pozdrawiam,  |  Best regards,
Maciek Wójcikowski
mac...@wojcikowski.pl


2014-05-07 11:19 GMT+02:00 Fredrik Wallner fred...@wallner.nu:

 Continue by running
 obabel -L formats
 and
 obabel -L ops

 Kind regards,
 Fredrik

 Skickat från min iPhone

  7 maj 2014 kl. 11:06 skrev Douglas Houston dhous...@staffmail.ed.ac.uk
 :
 
  /usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel -L
 
  outputs:
 
  charges
  descriptors
  fingerprints
  forcefields
  formats
  loaders
  ops
 
  How do I tell?
 
 
 
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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-07 Thread Douglas Houston
OK will do.

Just out of curiosity, what is my install of Babel doing when I specify
those options? Just ignoring them, without informing the user?



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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-07 Thread Douglas Houston
obconformer when run outputs:

Usage: obconformer NSteps GeomSteps file




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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-07 Thread Douglas Houston
obconformer with arguments:  /usr/local/bin/obconformer 10 10
crystal_ligand.sdf


outputs:




The conformers appear to be generated - how do I get them written out? The
input structure is in 3D by the way.



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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-06 Thread Douglas Houston
This doesn't work either:

 /usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel
crystal_ligand.sdf  -oconfbareport -xf tmp.sdf -xr 1.0


I get:

obabel: cannot write output format!
Open Babel 2.3.2 -- Mar 20 2013 -- 08:59:03
Usage:
obabel [-iinput-type] infilename [-ooutput-type] -Ooutfilename
[Options]
Try  -H option for more information.




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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2014-05-06 Thread Douglas Houston
Anyone have any comment on this? I am observing the same problem as OP. I am 
using the following:

/usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel
crystal_ligand.sdf -O tmp.sdf --conformer --nconf 50  --writeconformers

I only get 1 conformer in the 1 output file.

I have also tried the following:

 /usr/people/douglas/programs/openbabel-2.3.2/build/bin/obabel
crystal_ligand.sdf -O tmp.sdf --confab -rcutoff 0.1 -ecutoff 10 --original
--verbose

Still get 1 conformer in the 1 output file. 

The verbose option seems to have no effect, neither do the rcutoff and
ecutoff options. I believe there may be something wrong with the way obabel
is handling the options, it's like they aren't being used at all.

Can anyone honestly state that they have observed this feature actually
working?




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Re: [Open Babel] Generating a diverse set of conformers

2013-03-08 Thread scott_m
Thanks for the comments. I am using Open Babel 2.3.1 on a mac. The command
still doesn't ouptut multiple conformers, only the one file with one
conformer in it.

obabel input.sdf -O out.sdf --conformer --nconf 50 --score rmsd
obabel input.sdf -O out.sdf --writeconformers --nconf 50 --score rmsd

Also for python code:

import openbabel as ob
input_file='test.sdf'
mol = ob.OBMol()
cv = ob.OBConversion()
cv.SetInAndOutFormats('sdf','sdf')
cv.ReadFile(mol, input_file)
cs=ob.OBConformerSearch()
cs.Setup(mol,30,5,5,25)
cs.GetConformers(mol)
cv.WriteFile(mol, conformers.sdf)

Is the conformer search meant to output multiple conformers or just the
lowest energy one? If it's meant to output multiple conformers, what is
missing above?

Thanks,

Scott




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