Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard
Joseph Smith wrote: I know about general issues with Linux and USB, that's why I mentioned the Java USB support that was started some time ago. And the JPCSC I'm using is 0.7. I state it's mature because I know that the host side application I write that uses native implementation of PCSC Lite will run on two platforms, Windows and Linux. OCF -> PCSC bridge doesn't give me that flexiblilty because that native PCSC implementation works only on Windows. Therefore, I move from Java to a native language. That's why I asked if there will be terminal drivers. I don't see there would be a problem porting the PC/SC bridge to Linux. In fact, it should be fairly trivial, no ? Of course, an OCF to JPCSC bridge may be the better solution I also acknowledge that PCSC itself has some issues that could be redesigned as well. Well it seems to be the more popular standard though, so it must be doing something right :-) Having said that though I really do like the facility of Card Services and being able to interrogate cards to see if they can support what is needed. What would be a killer argument for JPCSC / PCSC is when or if it becomes a standard on OS X. Frankly I personally don't care about Linux as a desktop machine, so smart card deployment on Linux is not an issue for us. However, OS X would be. I understand you want a repository for the patches/fixes. But since it will be open sourced maybe a redesign would be beneficial as well. I'm sure there are some laid off Gemplus/SLB engineers that would have some ideas to contribute. They might even have something they've done in the lab that could be shared. I would say IBM but it appears as if they've lost insterest in it. Well a redesign may well be in order. One facility which would be very nice indeed would be a configuration mechanism. Maybe terminal drivers & card services could be packeged up in a similar way to WARs or EARs so they can be installed automatically, or at least less painfully than they are at the moment. The IBM Bluez team in Zurich seem to have some interest in JPCSC. Of the original sponsors of OpenCard only Gemplus seem to be doing anything anymore. That's nice to know about the Smartmouse with RXTX, but not all of my clients or government agencies I support, want to be tied to one particular vendor "that works fine" here or there. As a matter of fact, I have a government agency,( thru bad design ) that ONLY supports USB terminals. Agreed - USB is my companies preferred connection. Jon. --- Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. This list is being archived at http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ ! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an email ! to ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! containing the word ! unsubscribe ! in the body.
Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard
I know about general issues with Linux and USB, that's why I mentioned the Java USB support that was started some time ago. And the JPCSC I'm using is 0.7. I state it's mature because I know that the host side application I write that uses native implementation of PCSC Lite will run on two platforms, Windows and Linux. OCF -> PCSC bridge doesn't give me that flexiblilty because that native PCSC implementation works only on Windows. Therefore, I move from Java to a native language. That's why I asked if there will be terminal drivers. I also acknowledge that PCSC itself has some issues that could be redesigned as well. I understand you want a repository for the patches/fixes. But since it will be open sourced maybe a redesign would be beneficial as well. I'm sure there are some laid off Gemplus/SLB engineers that would have some ideas to contribute. They might even have something they've done in the lab that could be shared. I would say IBM but it appears as if they've lost insterest in it. That's nice to know about the Smartmouse with RXTX, but not all of my clients or government agencies I support, want to be tied to one particular vendor "that works fine" here or there. As a matter of fact, I have a government agency,( thru bad design ) that ONLY supports USB terminals. >From: Jon Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Joseph Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 22:25:42 +0200 > >Joseph Smith wrote: > >>I have a few questions for this new found interest in OCF >> >>Will it follow the original design of cardterminal/cardservices... >> >>and will it still use the PC/SC bridge or try some new Java >>platform port discovery mechanism ? ( ie, java terminals ). Also >>will this mechanism recognize USB ? I recall IBM was working on a >>Java USB solution on alphaworks but believe it died. >> >Well I don't think anyone is proposing a radical change to the OCF >architecture. For the time being it's just to tidy up the problems >with the existing code and apply the patches to the PC/SC bridge. I >just want a central resource of OCF related stuff thats up to date. > >>If the answers to both are yes, then, I'd rather just stick with >>the JPCSC solution from IBM. It's portable to Linux and is has >>smaller overhead than cardterminal/cardservices. >> >Well you're free to use whatever you want, but I've tried JPCSC from >version 0.3 and Muscle, and so far OCF and the PC/SC bridge seem to >be more mature. I've tried various USB devices under Linux and none >of them have worked bar the Towitoko readers. > >PC/SC does have a smaller overhead but then it doesn't give you >cardservices & sophisticated recognition of what cards are capable >of. It's really a matter (as ever) of what you want to do. > >I'm currently using the SmartMouse 1 OCF card driver with the RXTX >javax.serial port under Linux and it works fine. > >Jon. > > > MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. Get 2 months FREE*. --- > Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more > information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. > This list is being archived at http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ ! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an email ! to ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! containing the word ! unsubscribe ! in the body.
Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard
Joseph Smith wrote: I have a few questions for this new found interest in OCF Will it follow the original design of cardterminal/cardservices... and will it still use the PC/SC bridge or try some new Java platform port discovery mechanism ? ( ie, java terminals ). Also will this mechanism recognize USB ? I recall IBM was working on a Java USB solution on alphaworks but believe it died. Well I don't think anyone is proposing a radical change to the OCF architecture. For the time being it's just to tidy up the problems with the existing code and apply the patches to the PC/SC bridge. I just want a central resource of OCF related stuff thats up to date. If the answers to both are yes, then, I'd rather just stick with the JPCSC solution from IBM. It's portable to Linux and is has smaller overhead than cardterminal/cardservices. Well you're free to use whatever you want, but I've tried JPCSC from version 0.3 and Muscle, and so far OCF and the PC/SC bridge seem to be more mature. I've tried various USB devices under Linux and none of them have worked bar the Towitoko readers. PC/SC does have a smaller overhead but then it doesn't give you cardservices & sophisticated recognition of what cards are capable of. It's really a matter (as ever) of what you want to do. I'm currently using the SmartMouse 1 OCF card driver with the RXTX javax.serial port under Linux and it works fine. Jon. --- Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. This list is being archived at http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ ! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an email ! to ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! containing the word ! unsubscribe ! in the body.
Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard
I have a few questions for this new found interest in OCF Will it follow the original design of cardterminal/cardservices... and will it still use the PC/SC bridge or try some new Java platform port discovery mechanism ? ( ie, java terminals ). Also will this mechanism recognize USB ? I recall IBM was working on a Java USB solution on alphaworks but believe it died. If the answers to both are yes, then, I'd rather just stick with the JPCSC solution from IBM. It's portable to Linux and is has smaller overhead than cardterminal/cardservices. Just my $.02 -- Joseph Smith www.javacard.info -- >From: Brian McGuiness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard >Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 16:47:46 +0100 > >Jon Barber wrote: >>Can I help with setting up the repository at all ? >> >Yes. I had just got to the stage where I had all the tools in place >to load stuff up to the repository when I had to switch my PC from >NT to W2K. So I lost all the tools and I haven't had the chance to >sort them out again. Note to self: sort it out this week! > >If you or anyone else wants to help you need to go to >http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencard/ and sign up as a >developer. > >My intention was to set up the CVS repository and download area with >the current code, then add in some of the changes, e.g. new version >of PCSC, etc. > >It was also the intention to switch from this mailing list to the >sourceforge ones once cvs and the downloads were available and to >redirect the opencard site download area to the sourceforge project. > >Any help gratefully received. > >cheers >Brian > > >--- >>Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more >>information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. >>This list is being archived at >>http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ > >! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an >email >! to >! [EMAIL PROTECTED] >! containing the word >! unsubscribe ! in the body. > Protect your PC - Click here for McAfee.com VirusScan Online --- > Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more > information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. > This list is being archived at http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ ! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an email ! to ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! containing the word ! unsubscribe ! in the body.
Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard
Jon Barber wrote: Can I help with setting up the repository at all ? Yes. I had just got to the stage where I had all the tools in place to load stuff up to the repository when I had to switch my PC from NT to W2K. So I lost all the tools and I haven't had the chance to sort them out again. Note to self: sort it out this week! If you or anyone else wants to help you need to go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencard/ and sign up as a developer. My intention was to set up the CVS repository and download area with the current code, then add in some of the changes, e.g. new version of PCSC, etc. It was also the intention to switch from this mailing list to the sourceforge ones once cvs and the downloads were available and to redirect the opencard site download area to the sourceforge project. Any help gratefully received. cheers Brian --- Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. This list is being archived at http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ ! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an email ! to ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! containing the word ! unsubscribe ! in the body.
Re: [OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard
Well thanks to the folk at IAIK and Alan Kozlay it looks like we have some new stuff for OCF. What's the progress with setting up a repository so we can contribute further stuff ? At the moment I'm having to keep emails lying around to track everything. Can I help with setting up the repository at all ? regards, Jon. --- Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. This list is being archived at http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ ! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an email ! to ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! containing the word ! unsubscribe ! in the body.
[OCF] JCA provider based for OpenCard
hi all, some time ago we at IAIK built a JCA provider based on OpenCard. this allows accessing smart cards for signing using the usual Java API; e.g. Signature.getInstance( now we published this provider library under an Apache-style license as open-source software. this means, anyone interested can use it without charge even in commercial projects. keep in mind that this product might not have the same high quality as other libraries from IAIK. we provide it as is without any support, because we have no plans to further develop this library. we just thought, if we do not use it ourselves, perhaps it might be useful for others nevertheless. mainly we used SeTec cards with their SetOCF card services for development and testing. however, with slight modifications, it should work with other cards and card services either. we also did some tests with GPK cards from GemPlus (but not with GemSAFE). you can download it from http://jce.iaik.tugraz.at/download/evaluation/index.php#iaik-tools-and-applications (you need to register for free, because we like to know who uses our products). i hope some of you find it useful. regards Karl -- Karl Scheibelhofer, IAIK - Graz University of Technology Inffeldgasse 16a, 8010 Graz, Austria Fax: +43 316 873 5520 http://jce.iaik.tugraz.at --- > Visit the OpenCard web site at http://www.opencard.org/ for more > information on OpenCard---binaries, source code, documents. > This list is being archived at http://www.opencard.org/archive/opencard/ ! To unsubscribe from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list send an email ! to ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! containing the word ! unsubscribe ! in the body.
