Re: [openhealth] Open Source (and available for download) CPOE system?

2006-12-08 Thread Jubal John
What about VISTA/CPRS? try windows demo at http://www1.va.gov/cprsdemo/. The
VistA system is public domain software, available through the Freedom of
Information act on the VA website. Not sure if there are any others out
there that are freely available..

Cheers
Jubal

--
Dr Jubal John,
MBChB, PGDipBus (Health Informatics)

On 12/9/06, szegedportland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   Hello Group,
>
> I will need open source and readily downloadable (with registration or
> without) CPOE system for academic research purposes.
>
> I would appreciate if you can point me to a download link or a contact
> person's email. For this project the type of OSS license is not really
> important but the code should be available for free (and legal)
> customization (particularly the user interface). It will be an
> academic research project.
>
> Thank you for your help in advance!
>
> Imre Solti, MD, PhD
>
>  
>


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[openhealth] Open Source (and available for download) CPOE system?

2006-12-08 Thread szegedportland
Hello Group,

I will need open source and readily downloadable (with registration or
without) CPOE system for academic research purposes.

I would appreciate if you can point me to a download link or a contact
person's email. For this project the type of OSS license is not really
important but the code should be available for free (and legal)
customization (particularly the user interface). It will be an
academic research project.

Thank you for your help in advance!

Imre Solti, MD, PhD



[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-08 Thread Alex Caldwell
--- In openhealth@yahoogroups.com, Tim Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Alex Caldwell wrote:
>   The way I interpret the agreement on
> > the site, I believe it is OK to do this as long as you just do it
> > just for yourself for your own internal use, but you are not allowed
> > to re-distribute them. So perhaps it would be OK to distribute the
> > Open Source EMR minus these codes, but include instructions for the
> > user for downloading this file and importing the codes themselves
> > into their own personal copy of the EMR:
> 
> DISCLAIMER: IANAL but
> 
> "Grant and Limitations.  You, as an individual, are authorized to use 
> CPT only as contained in the CPT®/Medicare Relative Value Payment File 
> (the "File") solely for your own personal information and only within 
> the United States."
> 
> specifically EXCLUDES any use outside of the (Excel) file and any use 
> outside the US.  It goes on to say that you are prohibited for using 
> them in place of purchasing the CPT book or creating any derivative 
> work.
> 
> When we licensed CPTs for use in FreePM the AMA was very attentive to 
> the distribution and we had to submit quarterly audits to them.  I 
> suggest you ensure you adhere to their licensing restrictions I 
> understand they are very aggressive in pursuing their copyright on 
> their government granted monopoly.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- 
> Timothy (Tim) Cook, MSc

Thanks Tim,

I was going by the agreement on this page on the CMS site which links
to the download for the Excel file:

http://www.cms.hhs.gov/apps/ama/license.asp?file=http://new.cms.hhs.gov/apps/ama/report_xyz.pdf

It did not seem to me as restrictive as what you are quoting there. I
notice  many doctors do things with CPT,  such as having them printed
by a local printing house on their own customized superbills.  I've
never heard of anyone being pursued for that. It would seem that if
you included a subset of the CPT codes that you use in your own
practice in order to interact with Medicare for billing transactions
in the course of your own business,  and you get them yourself for
your own personal use, not distributed with the EMR, but just loaded
into it by yourself, it would not violate the conditions. I cannot see
that loading a subset of CPT codes into your EMR would be any
different than printing them on a superbill or having your coder enter
then into your claims.   But that's just the way I look at it, which
may not hold up.  I imagine CMS and other 3rd party payors and
clearinghouses must have agreements with AMA to use CPT.  Do their
agreements extend in any way to cover individual providers that do
business with these 3rd party payors that use CPT?

Alex





Re: [openhealth] [Fwd: HSSP Passes Major Milestone Today!]

2006-12-08 Thread David Forslund
(I forgot that you can't forward an email as an attachment.  Here is the 
announcement I was referring to:)


All:

I would like to take a moment to pause and acknowledge a significant 
event that occurred this morning.  At about 11:30am EST, the OMG Domain 
Task Force voted to issue Requests for Proposals for both the Entity 
Identification Service (EIS) and Retrieve, Locate, Update Service (RLUS) 
specifications.  Until today, the notion of developing Service 
Functional Models in HL7 and transforming them into technical RFP's to 
be issued to industry was just a destination to which we have been 
diligently working towards for a year (with prework having begun far 
before then).

On March 31st, 2007, "Letters of Intent" are due to the OMG indicating 
companies and product vendors that will develop both technical 
specifications and ultimately implementations of software (either open 
source, reference implementations, or products).  [We're planning to 
have one quarter dedicated to each RFP and how you may participate in a 
submission at HL7 in San Diego in January].  I'm already aware of 
companies that are exploring joining forces to collaborate as part of a 
joint submission team.

I'd like to take a moment in particular to thank and congratulate Alan 
Honey and John Koisch, whom have been championing these specifications 
not only within HL7, but within the OMG community as well.  Additional 
thanks to Barbara Eckman, Scott Robertson, Craig Bennett, Virinder 
Batra, and all of the other individuals that have contributed their time 
and efforts in making these quality specifications.  Also, our thanks to 
the countless folks who took time to provide ballot feedback on the 
Service Functional Models, and those who contributed on teleconferences 
and the list on these specifications.

The OMG RFP documents are publicly available on the OMG website at:

EIS:  _http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?health/2006-12-01_

RLUS:  _http://www.omg.org/cgi-bin/doc?health/2006-12-02_

In addition, we'll be getting those documents available from our Wiki.  
Things are shaping up to be a very engaging and busy meeting in San 
Diego in January.  I look forward to seeing you there. 

- Ken



Ken Rubin
Chief Healthcare Architect
EDS Civilian Government & DoD Healthcare Portfolio
5109 Leesburg Pike, Suite 414
Falls Church, VA 22041
Tel:  +1-703-845-3277 
Mobile:  +1-301-335-0534
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David Forslund wrote:
>
> Here is an opportunity for the open source community to contribute to a
> significant new standard for healthcare.
> Anyone willing to participate in a response to these RFPs?
>
> Dave Forslund
>
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>
> 




Re: [openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-08 Thread Tim Cook
Alex Caldwell wrote:
  The way I interpret the agreement on
> the site, I believe it is OK to do this as long as you just do it
> just for yourself for your own internal use, but you are not allowed
> to re-distribute them. So perhaps it would be OK to distribute the
> Open Source EMR minus these codes, but include instructions for the
> user for downloading this file and importing the codes themselves
> into their own personal copy of the EMR:

DISCLAIMER: IANAL but

"Grant and Limitations.  You, as an individual, are authorized to use 
CPT only as contained in the CPT®/Medicare Relative Value Payment File 
(the "File") solely for your own personal information and only within 
the United States."

specifically EXCLUDES any use outside of the (Excel) file and any use 
outside the US.  It goes on to say that you are prohibited for using 
them in place of purchasing the CPT book or creating any derivative 
work.

When we licensed CPTs for use in FreePM the AMA was very attentive to 
the distribution and we had to submit quarterly audits to them.  I 
suggest you ensure you adhere to their licensing restrictions I 
understand they are very aggressive in pursuing their copyright on 
their government granted monopoly.

Cheers,
-- 
Timothy (Tim) Cook, MSc
Health Informatics Consultant
Jacksonville, FL
Ph: 904-322-8582
http://home.comcast.net/~tw_cook/
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SKYPE: timothy.cook
Yahoo IM: tw_cook




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[openhealth] [Fwd: HSSP Passes Major Milestone Today!]

2006-12-08 Thread David Forslund
Here is an opportunity for the open source community to contribute to a 
significant new standard for healthcare.
Anyone willing to participate in a response to these RFPs?

Dave Forslund


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[openhealth] Re: list of diagnoses and procedures

2006-12-08 Thread Alex Caldwell
--- In openhealth@yahoogroups.com, Adrian Midgley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> "a list of diagnoses and procedures
> 
> Does anyone know one which is free to use and edit if needed and 
in 
an
> easy format to parse into a database"
> 
> Asked a colleague in another place.  Do we have a list of such 
lists?
> 
> What would the panel prefer?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> -- 
> Midgley
>

Adrian, 
 
In the US,  in order to get paid by Medicare or any other 3rd party 
payor, we are required to use the following.  Of course it's 
totally different than what the entire rest of the world uses, so 
probably of no use to your colleague. In the course of developing 
the billing module for tkFP, I found the following links to be very 
useful. Anyone desiring to include billing in an EMR in the US would 
need these:
 
HCPCS (Health Care Common Procedure Coding System) Level I and Level 
II codes.  Level I HCPCS codes are also known as "CPT-4 codes" and 
are  maintained by the American Medical Association, which 
apparently owns  the rights to their distribution.  I could not find 
a site with an  authorized FREE download for the level I HCPCS (CTP-
4) codes in a an electronic file.  The AMA will sell them to you, 
however, or you can buy them from some of their authorized 
distributors.  But the AMA does have a site where you can look them 
up one by one here:
 
 https://catalog.ama-assn.org/Catalog/cpt/cpt_search.jsp
 
I did find some files on the CMS (Centers for Medicare  & Medicaid 
Services) web site that do, in fact, have ALL the CPT codes in an  
electronic format suitable for slurping up into one's EMR.  These 
were  not really intended for such use, but were for publishing 
Medicare's  payment schedule.  But they do have all the codes in an 
Excel format.  One can export the  codes out of Excel, say in a CSV 
format, and then  easily write a little script to slurp up the codes 
into your open  source EMR.  The way I interpret the agreement on 
the site, I believe it is OK to do this as long as you just do it  
just for yourself for your own internal use, but you are not allowed 
to re-distribute them. So perhaps it would be OK to distribute the 
Open  Source EMR minus these codes, but include instructions for the 
user  for  downloading this file and importing the codes themselves 
into  their own personal copy of the EMR: 
 
 http://www.cms.hhs.gov/apps/ama/license.asp?
file=/physicianfeesched/downloads/pe_townhall_hcpcs_level.zip  
 
The level II HCPCS codes, commonly referred to as the "Alpha-
numeric" codes because they start with a letter and have 4 numerals, 
are mostly for supplies used in the course of  treatments that 3rd 
party payors cover, such as chemotherapy 
medications and "durable medical equipment " i.e. wheelchairs etc. 
They are also used for a few other odd-ball codes that are not in 
CPT-4 like Medicare influenza shot administration.  
Level II HCPCS codes are maintained by CMS (Centers for Medicare  & 
Medicaid Services).  Level II codes for 2007 can be downloaded from 
here:

 http://www.cms.hhs.gov/HCPCSReleaseCodeSets/downloads/anweb07.zip

ICD-9 Codes are used for billing in the U.S.  Files with the codes 
and abbreviated descriptions can be downloaded from here. 
 
 http://www.cms.hhs.gov/ICD9ProviderDiagnosticCodes/06_codes.asp

 
Alex Caldwell M.D.
Tulare, California, USA





Re: [openhealth] an element of repeat (refill) prescribing

2006-12-08 Thread Dr Adrian Midgley (In the office)
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Karsten Hilbert wrote:

>> I have assorted bits of SQL and nested If statements, but in principle
>> this could be done with system independent code or at least pseudocode.
>>
>> Do our various evolving systems have the generic capacity to do this,
>> cleverly?
> GNUmed humbly denies having that ability. But we are
> certainly interested in (linking to?) to your "assorted bits
> of SQL". We could host a page on our Wiki to make things
> more widely available which you might edit if that is useful
> to you.
> 
> Karsten

SELECT DATEDIFF(LEFT(NOW(),10),NotBefore) AS tDays,PatCode, Entry,
RepLeft, RepMax, NotBefore, ReIssue,  IF(Entry LIKE '%STATIN%','lipids',
IF(Entry LIKE '%FIBRATE%','lipids',   IF(Entry LIKE
'%THYROXI%','TFT',  IF((Entry LIKE '%PRIL%' OR Entry LIKE
'%ATENOLOL%' OR Entry LIKE '%DIPINE%'),'BP',  ''  AS
Monitor,  IF(Entry LIKE '%(CD)%','CD rules','') AS Special  FROM RXRPT
WHERE RepLeft =1 AND  (DATEDIFF(NotBefore,LEFT(NOW(),10))<2 AND
DATEDIFF(NotBefore,LEFT(NOW(),10))>-2)  ORDER BY tDays;

CD is Controlled Drug, opiates etc.


Gives something like this (pardon it wrapping)
+---+-++-++++-+-+
| tDays | PatCode | Entry  | RepLeft | RepMax |
NotBefore  | ReIssue| Monitor | Special |
+---+-++-++++-+-+
| 0 |  x  | SOTALOL HCL_TAB 80MG   |   1 |  7 |
2006-12-08 | 2006-10-13 | | |
| 0 |  x  | SIMVASTATIN_TAB 40MG   |   1 |  7 |
2006-12-08 | 2006-10-13 | lipids  | |
+---+-++-++++-+-+


This is being done in a very simple fashion, one could have a table of
what to do per drug, one could use the exact serial numbers of the
preparation in the catalogue rather than going by wild-carded drug
names, but it actually releases a little time and adds a little
convenience, and looks extendable.

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[openhealth] Open adverse drug reaction databases?

2006-12-08 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi,
Is it possible to obtain an open adverse drug reaction database? Are 
there any international standards for listing adverse drug reactions, 
say on the basis of active substances? I am not familiar with the 
subject, so I do not know how these databases are constructed, but 
somehow I feel that they are not as hard as clinical guidelines to 
contstruct; and they have broader use.
An open, international database would make a lot of things easier for 
healthcare related information systems, beginning with the prevention of 
adverse reactions. A google search brings this one for example: 
http://www.cbc.ca/news/adr/database/ .
But how applicable this db is for another country, and also is it 
allowed to be used elsewhere? I'd appreciate your opinions/experiences 
on this one

Regards
Seref