Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
I guess i sparked this discussion about the GUI. Not that I want a GUI, but if you read the comments on Alasdair Lumsden resign then most people that call OI a stupid OS are the people that only use a GUI to do things. ;-) But based on the number of reactions on this subject I fear that there a just a very few OI users. Or the rest must have been sleeping the last days. So I would suggest that we start some kind of voting/.. somewhere on the internet. Maybe in this mailgroup or on the OI website. I suggest the following questions: 1. Who wants to help develop OI? 2. What skills do you (the voter) have that can help OI? 3. What kind of software do you want to have running on OI? 4. What kind of hardware/drivers do you want to have running on OI? 5. Have you ever created a HOWTO for OI? If YES where is it? 6. Have you ever found a useful HOWTO for OI? If YES where is it? 7. Have you ever created a useful software package for OI? If YES where is it? 8. Do you use OI in a commercial environment? 9. There must be more useful questions that I forget. But if we start to gather the above information we already have more (centralized) than we have right now. -Original Message- From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] Sent: zaterdag 1 september 2012 16:48 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote: I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old adage A good product markets itself has some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less versed person will understand how good it is. Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who already preferred Solaris. OpenIndiana is still very young. Successful OS distributions take quite a few years to become significant. It is not something which happens in just a couple of years. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/ GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Backup User for zfs send and receive
Hello, I want to create a user to do a backup of my OI Server. I created it with: useradd -m -d /home/backup -s /bin/bash backup then: zfs allow -s @adminrole create,destroy,snapshot,rollback,clone,promote,rename,mount,send,receive,quota,reservation tank zfs allow backup @adminrole tank With this user, I can send and receive snapshots, but I usually use COMSTAR devices and with them, I get the following problem: receiving full stream of tank/raid1-0@20120831-2017 into tank/backup_raid/raid1-0@20120831-2017 *cannot receive stmf_sbd_lu property on tank/backup_raidreceived 5.01GB stream in 209 seconds (24.5MB/sec) : permission denied* I used this command: zfs send -R tank/raid1-0@20120831-2017 | ssh backup@192.168.10.201 /usr/sbin/zfs receive -Fduv tank/backup_raid My big question is now: How can I create an user who is able to do a whole zfs send and receive backup, with all properties. This command won't work: *chmod A+user:marks:add_subdirectory:fd:allow /tank* This command is listed in the oracle howto to delegate zfs permissions to other users. Best regards, Florian ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote: I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old adage A good product markets itself has some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less versed person will understand how good it is. Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who already preferred Solaris. +1. Precisely. -- Dave Koelmeyer http://www.davekoelmeyer.co.nz ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] ldap client config not persistent after reboot
hi, I have installed the OI for servers (from usb) and would like to get the users info from a redhat ipa server. Using the ldapclient tool I get everything to work, but after a reboot the ldap/client service is disabled and nsswitch.conf misses the ldap entries I edited. Enabling the ldap client and re-editing nsswith.conf fixes it, but this must obviously work after rebooting. I am a solaris newbie, so the chance of a PEBKAC is real :-) This is what I have done to enable the ldap client service: # svcadm enable ldap/client # svcs -a | grep ldap online 11:23:39 svc:/network/ldap/client:default After a reboot: # svcs -x ldap/client:default svc:/network/ldap/client:default (LDAP client) State: disabled since September 2, 2012 01:27:19 PM CEST Reason: Temporarily disabled by an administrator. See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-1S See: ldap_cachemgr(1M) Impact: This service is not running I am obviously missing something, but what exactly still escapes me? Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA. -- Groeten, natxo ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] COMSTAR iSCSI fail-over
Hello, I have one another question. We use two equal OI Server with COMSTAR iSCSI devices and we want to backup them. I backup them with zfs send and receive to each other in a backup directory. Has anyone experience with such a setup and how could I get the best disaster recovery with this combination? My big problem is, that I can't import a received LU. I get the following error: /Error importing stmfadm: meta file error/ With /zfs get stmf_sbd_lu property tank/backup_raid/raid1-0 /I get the same data like on the sending side, only source is different. How can I send the meta file, too? Is there an other method to import the LU or do I need to create new LU with the received block devices? Best regards Florian ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] COMSTAR iSCSI fail-over
I suspect you need to include the zfs properties with your zfs send, -p will provide them. Regards, Mike http://blog.laspina.ca -Original Message- From: Florian [mailto:flor...@acw.at] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 6:40 AM To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] COMSTAR iSCSI fail-over Hello, I have one another question. We use two equal OI Server with COMSTAR iSCSI devices and we want to backup them. I backup them with zfs send and receive to each other in a backup directory. Has anyone experience with such a setup and how could I get the best disaster recovery with this combination? My big problem is, that I can't import a received LU. I get the following error: /Error importing stmfadm: meta file error/ With /zfs get stmf_sbd_lu property tank/backup_raid/raid1-0 /I get the same data like on the sending side, only source is different. How can I send the meta file, too? Is there an other method to import the LU or do I need to create new LU with the received block devices? Best regards Florian ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Openindiana, Canon, cups and windows 7 printing
Jus to inform you: I just enabled cups and installed Canon CUPS drivers. Within 30 minutes up and running, can print from all computer in the house to the Cannon MP610 attached via USB to OpenIndiana running at a HP Homeserver. SUPER! ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] Core i7 2600 is being installed as i386
Hi, I had Core i7 2600 with 16 GB of RAM. After successfully install OI151a-5, issuing # isainfo i386 I've been installing on 10+ AMD system and get correct kernel ( amd64 ), but this very first time installing on Core i7 give me back to i386 Any clue how to fix it ? Regards, Handojo ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
On 9/2/12 7:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote: I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old adage A good product markets itself has some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less versed person will understand how good it is. Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who already preferred Solaris. +1. Precisely. I totally agree. However, I selfishly want an X-windows server and window manager on my server. I personally would prefer a simple window manager over a the heavyweight Gnome/KDE camps but there are reasons to go with these. I develop GUI based applications and have just about one of every Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows OS and version running to do build and test sitting in the home office on the opposite coast. Our clients still have a large investment with Solaris 9/10 so it is important that this builds and runs on a Solaris variant. Some of the apps can launch external programs, so it determines whether it should use gnome-open, etc. to choose the appropriate application. I telecommute, so when I make code changes I like to first build and test it on a cross section of platforms locally so I don't ship it out to the build farm broken and make everyone unhappy. I run router/firewall/file-share/backup/web/imap,web,smtp mail services on an old V20z. I have over 10 TB of mirrored zfs storage on which stores mail for each user With all of this, I seldomly tax it's resources. I do, however use this to build and test to make sure that it properly compiles and runs my applications. This has saved me countless of re-spins do to compiler or library issues. Without X-windows and some WM, I would no longer be able to use this machine that way and would have to take the hit for breaking Solaris builds. I recently picked up an Enterprise 450 when I heard of the OI Sparc efforts. However, it came with the internal NIC and the DVD drive broken. It also has that funky PXE graphics card. I got around the NIC by putting a fiberchannel card in and a SX to TX converter, and picked up a replacement DVD drive. I was hoping to not only use it for testing, but to use it to help the SPARC OI efforts but it still requires X-windows and WM to be useful for me. I can't believe that I'm the only one that uses OI to do GUI product development. Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] COMSTAR iSCSI fail-over
Hi, I do this. This is my zfs send receie command: zfs send -R tank/raid1-0@20120831-2017 | ssh backup@192.168.10.201 /usr/sbin/zfs receive -Fduv tank/backup_raid /man zfs (send): -p Include the dataset's properties in the stream. This flag is implicit when -R is specified. The receiving system must also support this feature./ Best regards Florian Am 02.09.2012 14:54, schrieb Mike La Spina: I suspect you need to include the zfs properties with your zfs send, -p will provide them. Regards, Mike http://blog.laspina.ca -Original Message- From: Florian [mailto:flor...@acw.at] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 6:40 AM To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: [OpenIndiana-discuss] COMSTAR iSCSI fail-over Hello, I have one another question. We use two equal OI Server with COMSTAR iSCSI devices and we want to backup them. I backup them with zfs send and receive to each other in a backup directory. Has anyone experience with such a setup and how could I get the best disaster recovery with this combination? My big problem is, that I can't import a received LU. I get the following error: /Error importing stmfadm: meta file error/ With /zfs get stmf_sbd_lu property tank/backup_raid/raid1-0 /I get the same data like on the sending side, only source is different. How can I send the meta file, too? Is there an other method to import the LU or do I need to create new LU with the received block devices? Best regards Florian ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
It's not that OI doesn't have to have a GUI, it's only that not all settings have to be set OVER a GUI. Of course it needs a decent GUI, but that doesn't imply that you can change/alter anything without getting deeper and into the commandline. -Original Message- From: Gary Gendel [mailto:g...@genashor.com] Sent: zondag 2 september 2012 16:53 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns On 9/2/12 7:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote: I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old adage A good product markets itself has some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less versed person will understand how good it is. Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who already preferred Solaris. +1. Precisely. I totally agree. However, I selfishly want an X-windows server and window manager on my server. I personally would prefer a simple window manager over a the heavyweight Gnome/KDE camps but there are reasons to go with these. I develop GUI based applications and have just about one of every Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows OS and version running to do build and test sitting in the home office on the opposite coast. Our clients still have a large investment with Solaris 9/10 so it is important that this builds and runs on a Solaris variant. Some of the apps can launch external programs, so it determines whether it should use gnome-open, etc. to choose the appropriate application. I telecommute, so when I make code changes I like to first build and test it on a cross section of platforms locally so I don't ship it out to the build farm broken and make everyone unhappy. I run router/firewall/file-share/backup/web/imap,web,smtp mail services on an old V20z. I have over 10 TB of mirrored zfs storage on which stores mail for each user With all of this, I seldomly tax it's resources. I do, however use this to build and test to make sure that it properly compiles and runs my applications. This has saved me countless of re-spins do to compiler or library issues. Without X-windows and some WM, I would no longer be able to use this machine that way and would have to take the hit for breaking Solaris builds. I recently picked up an Enterprise 450 when I heard of the OI Sparc efforts. However, it came with the internal NIC and the DVD drive broken. It also has that funky PXE graphics card. I got around the NIC by putting a fiberchannel card in and a SX to TX converter, and picked up a replacement DVD drive. I was hoping to not only use it for testing, but to use it to help the SPARC OI efforts but it still requires X-windows and WM to be useful for me. I can't believe that I'm the only one that uses OI to do GUI product development. Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
Would not webmin be a good fit? Develop good modules for webmin to manage OI with. Mike On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 17:02 +0200, Open Indiana wrote: It's not that OI doesn't have to have a GUI, it's only that not all settings have to be set OVER a GUI. Of course it needs a decent GUI, but that doesn't imply that you can change/alter anything without getting deeper and into the commandline. -Original Message- From: Gary Gendel [mailto:g...@genashor.com] Sent: zondag 2 september 2012 16:53 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns On 9/2/12 7:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote: I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old adage A good product markets itself has some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less versed person will understand how good it is. Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who already preferred Solaris. +1. Precisely. I totally agree. However, I selfishly want an X-windows server and window manager on my server. I personally would prefer a simple window manager over a the heavyweight Gnome/KDE camps but there are reasons to go with these. I develop GUI based applications and have just about one of every Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows OS and version running to do build and test sitting in the home office on the opposite coast. Our clients still have a large investment with Solaris 9/10 so it is important that this builds and runs on a Solaris variant. Some of the apps can launch external programs, so it determines whether it should use gnome-open, etc. to choose the appropriate application. I telecommute, so when I make code changes I like to first build and test it on a cross section of platforms locally so I don't ship it out to the build farm broken and make everyone unhappy. I run router/firewall/file-share/backup/web/imap,web,smtp mail services on an old V20z. I have over 10 TB of mirrored zfs storage on which stores mail for each user With all of this, I seldomly tax it's resources. I do, however use this to build and test to make sure that it properly compiles and runs my applications. This has saved me countless of re-spins do to compiler or library issues. Without X-windows and some WM, I would no longer be able to use this machine that way and would have to take the hit for breaking Solaris builds. I recently picked up an Enterprise 450 when I heard of the OI Sparc efforts. However, it came with the internal NIC and the DVD drive broken. It also has that funky PXE graphics card. I got around the NIC by putting a fiberchannel card in and a SX to TX converter, and picked up a replacement DVD drive. I was hoping to not only use it for testing, but to use it to help the SPARC OI efforts but it still requires X-windows and WM to be useful for me. I can't believe that I'm the only one that uses OI to do GUI product development. Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
This assumes that there will never be remote user access (vnc, etc.) to do development work that uses a GUI interface. So you can't have SunRay type capabilities or even do simple things like web page development on that box (without gimp or some other graphics capability). Basically all development would require a non-illumos box. I currently can do this with VNC using my tablet or laptop which has saved my tail a number of times when I'm on the road since I'm not allowed to have proprietary data with me when I travel. On 9/2/12 11:47 AM, Michael Stapleton wrote: Would not webmin be a good fit? Develop good modules for webmin to manage OI with. Mike On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 17:02 +0200, Open Indiana wrote: It's not that OI doesn't have to have a GUI, it's only that not all settings have to be set OVER a GUI. Of course it needs a decent GUI, but that doesn't imply that you can change/alter anything without getting deeper and into the commandline. -Original Message- From: Gary Gendel [mailto:g...@genashor.com] Sent: zondag 2 september 2012 16:53 To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns On 9/2/12 7:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote: I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old adage A good product markets itself has some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less versed person will understand how good it is. Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who already preferred Solaris. +1. Precisely. I totally agree. However, I selfishly want an X-windows server and window manager on my server. I personally would prefer a simple window manager over a the heavyweight Gnome/KDE camps but there are reasons to go with these. I develop GUI based applications and have just about one of every Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows OS and version running to do build and test sitting in the home office on the opposite coast. Our clients still have a large investment with Solaris 9/10 so it is important that this builds and runs on a Solaris variant. Some of the apps can launch external programs, so it determines whether it should use gnome-open, etc. to choose the appropriate application. I telecommute, so when I make code changes I like to first build and test it on a cross section of platforms locally so I don't ship it out to the build farm broken and make everyone unhappy. I run router/firewall/file-share/backup/web/imap,web,smtp mail services on an old V20z. I have over 10 TB of mirrored zfs storage on which stores mail for each user With all of this, I seldomly tax it's resources. I do, however use this to build and test to make sure that it properly compiles and runs my applications. This has saved me countless of re-spins do to compiler or library issues. Without X-windows and some WM, I would no longer be able to use this machine that way and would have to take the hit for breaking Solaris builds. I recently picked up an Enterprise 450 when I heard of the OI Sparc efforts. However, it came with the internal NIC and the DVD drive broken. It also has that funky PXE graphics card. I got around the NIC by putting a fiberchannel card in and a SX to TX converter, and picked up a replacement DVD drive. I was hoping to not only use it for testing, but to use it to help the SPARC OI efforts but it still requires X-windows and WM to be useful for me. I can't believe that I'm the only one that uses OI to do GUI product development. Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] xfce 4.8 - correction
Has anyone successfully installed and used xfce 4.8 from the sfe repository pkg.opensolaris.org/sfe/ ? ^^^ openindiana.org (Well, it was a long day yesterday.) I tried some months ago without success. I see many of the xfce packages have been updated recently, so I thought I would try again. No success this time either. Among other problems, the default panel configuration is not installed, and any panel configuration I make is not saved at log off, which makes it useless. I have gone back to xfce 6.2 in frustration, which I have been using without major problems for some time. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana lead Alasdair Lumsden resigns
I have been developing a virtualization product that runs on OI, It's written in Java but uses ZFS and Comstar so the server side has to be Iluminos/Solaris11 based. For me, development and testing has been much more efficient by running OI on my workstations and laptops. When I'm traveling, I can still build and test because my laptop is running OI. I could use VMs for testing, but rather not if I don't have to. The fact that OI is usable as a workstation has been great and I would not be happy to see it go away. If it does, I will likely have to switch to Solaris 11 to Build and test my software. Microsoft owns the desktop market because it owns the desktop market. Uses run Windows because the programs they need run on Windows. Developers develop for windows because the Users are running Windows. Hardware vendors write drivers for Windows because the computers are running Windows. It does not matter how great of a desktop OI is, it will never break the Windows cycle. The real threat to Windows is cloud services. The Microsoft Lock in might be broken when the applications Users use no longer depend on the desktop OS, But when that happens it also will mean that the great services OI provides will be irrelevant on a desktop. If there is one niche market I can see for OI as a desktop, it is in Trusted Extensions. The future of OI is on the server, and it should have a usable GUI interface. But in my opinion, trying to support every Desktop application is a bit futile. Mike On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 10:52 -0400, Gary Gendel wrote: On 9/2/12 7:23 AM, Dave Koelmeyer wrote: On 2/09/12 02:48 AM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 1 Sep 2012, Robin Axelsson wrote: I'm fully aware of the power of the command line and it is the command line that really makes me like Unix based OSes (including Linux). But making OI look well-polished with a fancy and easy to administer web-admin GUI that would encourage the average-Joe to use it as a home-NAS / virtual server is not a bad thing. That way OI would reach a higher penetration with a larger user-base and most importantly; it will get _free advertising_. To some extent the old adage A good product markets itself has some truth in it. But it must not only be good, it has to /look/ good so that even a less versed person will understand how good it is. Focusing on issues like this would be putting the cart before the horse. It is more important to be able to easily build everything and incorporate updates than to have a fancy configuration GUI. OI popularity should come second to correct functionality and having an organization (of volunteers and corporate entities) to sustain it. If OI is worthy, popularity will follow, even if only from people who already preferred Solaris. +1. Precisely. I totally agree. However, I selfishly want an X-windows server and window manager on my server. I personally would prefer a simple window manager over a the heavyweight Gnome/KDE camps but there are reasons to go with these. I develop GUI based applications and have just about one of every Linux/Unix/Mac/Windows OS and version running to do build and test sitting in the home office on the opposite coast. Our clients still have a large investment with Solaris 9/10 so it is important that this builds and runs on a Solaris variant. Some of the apps can launch external programs, so it determines whether it should use gnome-open, etc. to choose the appropriate application. I telecommute, so when I make code changes I like to first build and test it on a cross section of platforms locally so I don't ship it out to the build farm broken and make everyone unhappy. I run router/firewall/file-share/backup/web/imap,web,smtp mail services on an old V20z. I have over 10 TB of mirrored zfs storage on which stores mail for each user With all of this, I seldomly tax it's resources. I do, however use this to build and test to make sure that it properly compiles and runs my applications. This has saved me countless of re-spins do to compiler or library issues. Without X-windows and some WM, I would no longer be able to use this machine that way and would have to take the hit for breaking Solaris builds. I recently picked up an Enterprise 450 when I heard of the OI Sparc efforts. However, it came with the internal NIC and the DVD drive broken. It also has that funky PXE graphics card. I got around the NIC by putting a fiberchannel card in and a SX to TX converter, and picked up a replacement DVD drive. I was hoping to not only use it for testing, but to use it to help the SPARC OI efforts but it still requires X-windows and WM to be useful for me. I can't believe that I'm the only one that uses OI to do GUI product development. Gary ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backup User for zfs send and receive
Well, when I set something similar up, I added the ZFS File System Management profile to the user with the users-admin GUI, and used pfexec zfs receive ... for the receive command. As I understand it, it means that it is allowed to run zfs with root privileges, so it wouldn't be limited to one pool, or to specific subcommands, so perhaps it is more than you want. I haven't used it with comstar, but I would expect root privileges to be enough. Tim On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Florian flor...@acw.at wrote: Hello, I want to create a user to do a backup of my OI Server. I created it with: useradd -m -d /home/backup -s /bin/bash backup then: zfs allow -s @adminrole create,destroy,snapshot,** rollback,clone,promote,rename,**mount,send,receive,quota,**reservation tank zfs allow backup @adminrole tank With this user, I can send and receive snapshots, but I usually use COMSTAR devices and with them, I get the following problem: receiving full stream of tank/raid1-0@20120831-2017 into tank/backup_raid/raid1-0@**20120831-2017 *cannot receive stmf_sbd_lu property on tank/backup_raidreceived 5.01GB stream in 209 seconds (24.5MB/sec) : permission denied* I used this command: zfs send -R tank/raid1-0@20120831-2017 | ssh backup@192.168.10.201/usr/sbin/zfs receive -Fduv tank/backup_raid My big question is now: How can I create an user who is able to do a whole zfs send and receive backup, with all properties. This command won't work: *chmod A+user:marks:add_subdirectory:**fd:allow /tank* This command is listed in the oracle howto to delegate zfs permissions to other users. Best regards, Florian __**_ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@**openindiana.orgOpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/**mailman/listinfo/openindiana-**discusshttp://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backup User for zfs send and receive
I don't actually know how this is supposed to work, but I noticed a difference between what you two wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Florian flor...@acw.at wrote: I used this command: zfs send -R tank/raid1-0@20120831-2017 | ssh backup@192.168.10.201/usr/sbin/zfs receive -Fduv tank/backup_raid On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Timothy Coalson tsc...@mst.edu wrote: [...] used pfexec zfs receive ... for the receive command. I think that after you added the admin privileges to the user backup, you still need to call zfs receive using pfexec to actually use these newly acquired privileges. Right? Jan ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Core i7 2600 is being installed as i386
Hi, same problem here with a Celeron 530 (sandy bridge, definitely 64bit-enabled, usually running 64bit linux). Live-USB boots in 32 bit - I can't even install, because the drives are 1TB. David ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Backup User for zfs send and receive
We used different methods, the user profiles just tell pfexec what the user can run as root, you still need to call it with pfexec in order to run it as root. His method gave some privileges to a particular user on a particular pool/filesystem, so that he didn't need root privileges to do the zfs receive (until comstar got involved, apparently). Tim On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jan Owoc jso...@gmail.com wrote: I don't actually know how this is supposed to work, but I noticed a difference between what you two wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Florian flor...@acw.at wrote: I used this command: zfs send -R tank/raid1-0@20120831-2017 | ssh backup@192.168.10.201/usr/sbin/zfs receive -Fduv tank/backup_raid On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Timothy Coalson tsc...@mst.edu wrote: [...] used pfexec zfs receive ... for the receive command. I think that after you added the admin privileges to the user backup, you still need to call zfs receive using pfexec to actually use these newly acquired privileges. Right? Jan ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ldap client config not persistent after reboot
As a wild guess, temporary disabled may mean that some services prerequisite to ldap did not start well. Try to research dependencies (svcs -d/-D) or enable recursively (svcadm enable -r). What you're doing seems like it should work. nsswitch confuses me... do you have NWAM enabled? try to get it reconfigured, or disable it and use the physical:default service to configure networking from files as was documented eons ago. HTH //Jim 2012-09-02 15:32, Natxo Asenjo пишет: hi, I have installed the OI for servers (from usb) and would like to get the users info from a redhat ipa server. Using the ldapclient tool I get everything to work, but after a reboot the ldap/client service is disabled and nsswitch.conf misses the ldap entries I edited. Enabling the ldap client and re-editing nsswith.conf fixes it, but this must obviously work after rebooting. I am a solaris newbie, so the chance of a PEBKAC is real :-) This is what I have done to enable the ldap client service: # svcadm enable ldap/client # svcs -a | grep ldap online 11:23:39 svc:/network/ldap/client:default After a reboot: # svcs -x ldap/client:default svc:/network/ldap/client:default (LDAP client) State: disabled since September 2, 2012 01:27:19 PM CEST Reason: Temporarily disabled by an administrator. See: http://illumos.org/msg/SMF-8000-1S See: ldap_cachemgr(1M) Impact: This service is not running I am obviously missing something, but what exactly still escapes me? Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA. -- Groeten, natxo ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Core i7 2600 is being installed as i386
2012-09-02 18:50, Handojo пишет: Hi, I had Core i7 2600 with 16 GB of RAM. After successfully install OI151a-5, issuing # isainfo i386 I've been installing on 10+ AMD system and get correct kernel ( amd64 ), but this very first time installing on Core i7 give me back to i386 Any clue how to fix it ? It may be possible that GRUB misdetects the hardware; while in grub menu, try to issue c to edit the boot option and in kernel/module lines replace $ISADIR with amd64 explicitly. HTH, //Jim ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
