Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
As I said "However Oracle own the code, so if they want to change the License to a non-"Open Source" one, they are probably within their rights ..." so I'm not going to hold my breath. 2011/6/8 Ignacio Marambio Catán : > Oracle never said such thing officially. i think it was part of a > leaked memo written by someone who is no longer employed by them > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 18:08 +0200, Bruno Damour wrote: > Of course it's me, but i think it suggests it's on par with sol 11 express > which is snv_151a. > As oi_147/8 was based on snv_147/8 > > But as we of course have to get used to oi being a real fork of solaris, why > not change the numbering scheme ? > > Bruno > PS : Please, do not think I'm complaining, I'm not Iirc, OI version numbering will change with first stable release, wh/I think will be something like 1.0.x, or 1.0_RELEASE, or maybe that was RELEASE-1.0. Not 100% sure about the names. This was touched upon during #oi-meeting yesterday, the specifics of which were left for further discussion. In any case, similar to FreeBSD with RELEASE, TESTING/DEV, and EXPERIMENTAL branches. -- Ken Gunderson ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
Oracle never said such thing officially. i think it was part of a leaked memo written by someone who is no longer employed by them On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: > Oracle have sorta said that they will release all the changes they > have made to ZFS (and some other changes) after they have finally > released Solaris 11, because the ZFS was "Open Source" ... and we > might then be able to incorporate the changes that they have made into > Illumos ... > > However Oracle own the code, so if they want to change the License to > a non-"Open Source" one, they are probably within their rights ... > > I don't usually complain if Samba does not work well with Microsoft > Windows ... I usually rejoice when it does, likewise I won't expect an > Open system to mirror one that is currently closed and without > specification. > > Jon > > On 8 June 2011 17:08, Bruno Damour wrote: >> Of course it's me, but i think it suggests it's on par with sol 11 express >> which is snv_151a. >> As oi_147/8 was based on snv_147/8 >> >> But as we of course have to get used to oi being a real fork of solaris, why >> not change the numbering scheme ? >> >> Bruno >> PS : Please, do not think I'm complaining, I'm not >> >> - Mail Original - >> De: "Dan Swartzendruber" >> À: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" >> Envoyé: Mercredi 8 Juin 2011 17h46:53 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne >> / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne >> Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to >> oi-151? >> >> Bruno Damour wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Still, this is an (at least for me) important drawback, because that means >>> that there is no possibility to "upgrade" from solaris 11 express. >>> I thought that the goal was to be compatible with solaris 11 express, and >>> assumed that zfs/zpool versions would also be. >>> Of course I understand the difficulties, but isn't the numbering (151) >>> slightly misleading ? >>> AFAIK the base is still snv_148+patches for core elements, even if JDS, >>> etc... is in line with solaris 11 express. >>> >> How is this misleading? I don't see how '151' implies 'zfs/zpool >> versions at least as new as SE11'? >> >> >> >> ___ >> OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list >> OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> >> ___ >> OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list >> OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org >> http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss >> > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
Oracle have sorta said that they will release all the changes they have made to ZFS (and some other changes) after they have finally released Solaris 11, because the ZFS was "Open Source" ... and we might then be able to incorporate the changes that they have made into Illumos ... However Oracle own the code, so if they want to change the License to a non-"Open Source" one, they are probably within their rights ... I don't usually complain if Samba does not work well with Microsoft Windows ... I usually rejoice when it does, likewise I won't expect an Open system to mirror one that is currently closed and without specification. Jon On 8 June 2011 17:08, Bruno Damour wrote: > Of course it's me, but i think it suggests it's on par with sol 11 express > which is snv_151a. > As oi_147/8 was based on snv_147/8 > > But as we of course have to get used to oi being a real fork of solaris, why > not change the numbering scheme ? > > Bruno > PS : Please, do not think I'm complaining, I'm not > > - Mail Original - > De: "Dan Swartzendruber" > À: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" > Envoyé: Mercredi 8 Juin 2011 17h46:53 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / > Rome / Stockholm / Vienne > Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to > oi-151? > > Bruno Damour wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Still, this is an (at least for me) important drawback, because that means >> that there is no possibility to "upgrade" from solaris 11 express. >> I thought that the goal was to be compatible with solaris 11 express, and >> assumed that zfs/zpool versions would also be. >> Of course I understand the difficulties, but isn't the numbering (151) >> slightly misleading ? >> AFAIK the base is still snv_148+patches for core elements, even if JDS, >> etc... is in line with solaris 11 express. >> > How is this misleading? I don't see how '151' implies 'zfs/zpool > versions at least as new as SE11'? > > > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > > ___ > OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list > OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org > http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss > ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
Of course it's me, but i think it suggests it's on par with sol 11 express which is snv_151a. As oi_147/8 was based on snv_147/8 But as we of course have to get used to oi being a real fork of solaris, why not change the numbering scheme ? Bruno PS : Please, do not think I'm complaining, I'm not - Mail Original - De: "Dan Swartzendruber" À: "Discussion list for OpenIndiana" Envoyé: Mercredi 8 Juin 2011 17h46:53 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151? Bruno Damour wrote: > Hello, > > Still, this is an (at least for me) important drawback, because that means > that there is no possibility to "upgrade" from solaris 11 express. > I thought that the goal was to be compatible with solaris 11 express, and > assumed that zfs/zpool versions would also be. > Of course I understand the difficulties, but isn't the numbering (151) > slightly misleading ? > AFAIK the base is still snv_148+patches for core elements, even if JDS, > etc... is in line with solaris 11 express. > How is this misleading? I don't see how '151' implies 'zfs/zpool versions at least as new as SE11'? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
Bruno Damour wrote: Hello, Still, this is an (at least for me) important drawback, because that means that there is no possibility to "upgrade" from solaris 11 express. I thought that the goal was to be compatible with solaris 11 express, and assumed that zfs/zpool versions would also be. Of course I understand the difficulties, but isn't the numbering (151) slightly misleading ? AFAIK the base is still snv_148+patches for core elements, even if JDS, etc... is in line with solaris 11 express. How is this misleading? I don't see how '151' implies 'zfs/zpool versions at least as new as SE11'? ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
Hello, Still, this is an (at least for me) important drawback, because that means that there is no possibility to "upgrade" from solaris 11 express. I thought that the goal was to be compatible with solaris 11 express, and assumed that zfs/zpool versions would also be. Of course I understand the difficulties, but isn't the numbering (151) slightly misleading ? AFAIK the base is still snv_148+patches for core elements, even if JDS, etc... is in line with solaris 11 express. But of course I will manage to test oi_151, thank you all for this great job. Bruno ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
Thanks Michael and Okky, I was confused. On 06/ 8/11 09:02 AM, Michael Schuster wrote: On 08.06.2011 15:00, Kostas Oikonomou wrote: Hello, After upgrading oi-148 to oi-151 using the /dev-il repository, it seems that my zfs has been "downgraded". On oi-148 I had version 28, but now I have this: kzin$ /usr/sbin/zfs upgrade -v The following filesystem versions are supported: VER DESCRIPTION --- 1 Initial ZFS filesystem version 2 Enhanced directory entries 3 Case insensitive and File system unique identifier (FUID) 4 userquota, groupquota properties 5 System attributes For more information on a particular version, including supported releases, see the ZFS Administration Guide. have you also looked at "zpool upgrade -v"? Michael ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
On 08.06.2011 15:00, Kostas Oikonomou wrote: Hello, After upgrading oi-148 to oi-151 using the /dev-il repository, it seems that my zfs has been "downgraded". On oi-148 I had version 28, but now I have this: kzin$ /usr/sbin/zfs upgrade -v The following filesystem versions are supported: VER DESCRIPTION --- 1 Initial ZFS filesystem version 2 Enhanced directory entries 3 Case insensitive and File system unique identifier (FUID) 4 userquota, groupquota properties 5 System attributes For more information on a particular version, including supported releases, see the ZFS Administration Guide. have you also looked at "zpool upgrade -v"? Michael -- Michael Schuster http://recursiveramblings.wordpress.com/ ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
[OpenIndiana-discuss] zfs only to version 5 after upgrading to oi-151?
Hello, After upgrading oi-148 to oi-151 using the /dev-il repository, it seems that my zfs has been "downgraded". On oi-148 I had version 28, but now I have this: kzin$ /usr/sbin/zfs upgrade -v The following filesystem versions are supported: VER DESCRIPTION --- 1 Initial ZFS filesystem version 2 Enhanced directory entries 3 Case insensitive and File system unique identifier (FUID) 4 userquota, groupquota properties 5 System attributes For more information on a particular version, including supported releases, see the ZFS Administration Guide. kzin$ Does anyone know why this may be happening? Thanks. Kostas ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss
