Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
2012/11/16 Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se:
 Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
 Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the
 end of the year 2012 [2].

 I think you misunderstood what Andreas wrote in his email.

 I think that what Andreas was saying is that someone else needs to be
 root and care for the machine.

 I don't expect that it will be any problem whatsoever to keep the VM
 around until whenever it is easy to change DNS, as long as someone is
 actually taking care of the system.

well, noone is maintaining the VM. so if we don't have enough resorces
for this now, it is not proper to assume we will magically have them
sometimes later. the more I think about it, the more I think using a
service is better than running your own server. github, sourceforge,
savannah, code.google.com - its not like we don't have options. worst
case I can do something, but it seems people already migrated all code
to github, so that part is taken care of. the mailing list is archived
in many other places, so I guess we don't need to migrate the mailing
list archive. as for the list itself, extracting subscribers and
asking them to subscribe somewhere (e.g. a new groups.google.com list
or some other place) should be easy.
as for trac: no idea what to do best. I think the wiki pages are
valuable. the bug tracking I see as nice to have, but not essential.
Of course if someone wants to invest time into this - then it is also
your choice to take the proper direction.

Andreas

 Of course when noone is able to and other offers aren't useful, then
 all that remains is to rely on free (beer) services like github or SF.


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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
2012/11/16 Viktor Tarasov viktor.tara...@gmail.com:
 Hello Peter,

 Le 16/11/2012 21:42, Peter Stuge a écrit :
 Viktor Tarasov wrote:
 I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time:
 - sources: all sources will migrate to github;
 - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ;
 - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server;
 - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something
 with Trac.
 Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain
 how it could be done, please?
 If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' .
 Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a
 whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire
 I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind
 that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else.

 It seems that decision to move all sources to github is accepted.
 Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to use the 
 bug system and wiki on github,
 as Ludovic proposed,
 and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ?
 (I need some time to discover Trac's internals and how it interacts with SCM 
 .)

 As far as I understood, in any case we have to start from sqlite dump of the 
 current OpenSC Trac.
 Andreas, can you do it, please ?

sure, send a mail. trac is kept in postgresql though, not sqlite. we
have nightly backups, if you want the
dump files. plus of course the backup directory with templates,
attachments and so on.


 Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me
 to look into moving Trac out.


 - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to
 install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
 Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to
 follow for such migration.
 I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it.
 I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?).

 Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please?

SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
was used many, many years ago).
Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.

Andreas


 //Peter

 Kind regards,
 Viktor.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com
 
  I could not migrate:
  - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 
 
  I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
 under the OpenSC organization.
  https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 
  I have not tried to migrate:
  - OpenCT
  - OpenSC-Java
  Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 
 
  I tried to convert OpenCT.
  But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
 no author and confuse svn2git.
 
  I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct


Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

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[opensc-devel] Admin access to the OpenSC project at SourceForge.net

2012-11-17 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
Hello Juha and Olaf,

The machine hosting https://www.opensc-project.org/ will be stopped at the
end of this year (2012). We are looking for a new hosting solution.

You both are admin of the OpenSC project at SourceForge.net. Can you add me
(login: ludov) as a new admin so we can use https://sourceforge
.net/projects/opensc/ as a new host? We plan to host the mailing list(s) at
SF.net.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de
 SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
 was used many, many years ago).
 Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.

I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the
emails sent to their SF.net contact address.

If we can't (re)use the SourceForge OpenSC project then hosting the
OpenSC mailing list(s) at groups.google.com would be a good solution.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
2012/11/17 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com:
 2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus andr...@ionisiert.de
 SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
 was used many, many years ago).
 Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.

 I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the
 emails sent to their SF.net contact address.

That was fast.
Juha added me as admin.

It would be best if other active people are also added as admin.
Viktor, do you have a SourceForge account?

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com
 
  I could not migrate:
  - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 
 
  I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
  under the OpenSC organization.
  https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 
  I have not tried to migrate:
  - OpenCT
  - OpenSC-Java
  Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 
 
  I tried to convert OpenCT.
  But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
  no author and confuse svn2git.
 
  I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct


 Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
are formal upstream.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com
 
  I could not migrate:
  - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 
 
  I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
  under the OpenSC organization.
  https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 
  I have not tried to migrate:
  - OpenCT
  - OpenSC-Java
  Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 
 
  I tried to convert OpenCT.
  But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
  no author and confuse svn2git.
 
  I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct


 Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

 No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
 From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
 Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
 are formal upstream.

OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
You can now fork them on your side.

Bye

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com
 
  I could not migrate:
  - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 
 
  I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
  under the OpenSC organization.
  https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 
  I have not tried to migrate:
  - OpenCT
  - OpenSC-Java
  Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 
 
  I tried to convert OpenCT.
  But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
  no author and confuse svn2git.
 
  I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct


 Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

 No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
 From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
 Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
 are formal upstream.

 OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
 You can now fork them on your side.

Thanks.
It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.

Alon
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Andreas Schwier
Hi Ludovic,

can you grant me (git-account is CardContact) write access to
OpenSC-Java ?

Andreas

Am 14.11.2012 23:45, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau:
 2012/11/14 Andreas Schwier andreas.schw...@cardcontact.de
 mailto:andreas.schw...@cardcontact.de

 We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the
 repo to GITHUB I will care for it.


 Now available at https://github.com/OpenSC/OpenSC-Java

 I pushed 3 branches:
 - master
 - pkcs11-0.2-branch
 - pkcs11-test-0.2-branch

 The latest commit in master is 4 years old.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Ludovic Rousseau
2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com
 
  I could not migrate:
  - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 
 
  I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
  under the OpenSC organization.
  https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 
  I have not tried to migrate:
  - OpenCT
  - OpenSC-Java
  Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 
 
  I tried to convert OpenCT.
  But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
  no author and confuse svn2git.
 
  I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct


 Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

 No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
 From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
 Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
 are formal upstream.

 OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
 You can now fork them on your side.

 Thanks.
 It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.

I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
have access to all the repositories.

The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository.

Or am I wrong?

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alon.bar...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau ludovic.rouss...@gmail.com
 
  I could not migrate:
  - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 
 
  I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
  under the OpenSC organization.
  https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 
  I have not tried to migrate:
  - OpenCT
  - OpenSC-Java
  Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 
 
  I tried to convert OpenCT.
  But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
  no author and confuse svn2git.
 
  I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct


 Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

 No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
 From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
 Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
 are formal upstream.

 OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
 You can now fork them on your side.

 Thanks.
 It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.

 I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
 I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
 have access to all the repositories.

Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
access to specific repositories.


 The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
 requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

We return to the original question: what is the difference between
people who previously had commit access and you.

 Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository.

 Or am I wrong?

 Bye

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

2012-11-17 Thread Peter Stuge
Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
 The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
 requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly
fine also with git.


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