Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Peter Stuge]

Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
> The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
> requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

Yes and no. Multiple people writing to a central repo works perfectly
fine also with git.


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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>  wrote:
>>> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
 On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
  wrote:
> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>> >>>
>> >>> I could not migrate:
>> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
>> >> under the OpenSC organization.
>> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>> >>
>> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
>> >>> - OpenCT
>> >>> - OpenSC-Java
>> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
>> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
>> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
>> >
>> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>>
>> Ready:
>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>
>
> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

 No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
 From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
 Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
 are formal upstream.
>>>
>>> OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
>>> You can now fork them on your side.
>>
>> Thanks.
>> It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.
>
> I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
> I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
> have access to all the repositories.

Yes you can, there are teams, each team can have admin/write/read
access to specific repositories.

>
> The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
> requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

We return to the original question: what is the difference between
people who previously had commit access and you.

> Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository.
>
> Or am I wrong?
>
> Bye
>
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>>  wrote:
 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
> >>>
> >>> I could not migrate:
> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
> >>
> >>
> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
> >> under the OpenSC organization.
> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
> >>
> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
> >>> - OpenCT
> >>> - OpenSC-Java
> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
> >>
> >>
> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
> >
> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>
> Ready:
> https://github.com/alonbl/openct


 Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
>>>
>>> No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
>>> From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
>>> Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
>>> are formal upstream.
>>
>> OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
>> You can now fork them on your side.
>
> Thanks.
> It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.

I don't think I can give you admin access to only these 2 projects.
I can add you as a member of the OpenSC organisation and you would
have access to all the repositories.

The idea of git is to _not_ have to give access. Just send pull
requests and I (or another admin) will pull your code.

Same remark for Andreas and the OpenSC-java repository.

Or am I wrong?

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Schwier]

Hi Ludovic,

can you grant me (git-account is "CardContact") write access to
OpenSC-Java ?

Andreas

Am 14.11.2012 23:45, schrieb Ludovic Rousseau:
> 2012/11/14 Andreas Schwier  >
>
> We are still maintaining a version of OpenSC-Java. If you migrate the
> repo to GITHUB I will care for it.
>
>
> Now available at https://github.com/OpenSC/OpenSC-Java
>
> I pushed 3 branches:
> - master
> - pkcs11-0.2-branch
> - pkcs11-test-0.2-branch
>
> The latest commit in master is 4 years old.
>
> Bye
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> 2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>  wrote:
>>> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 

 On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
 wrote:
 > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 >  wrote:
 >>
 >>
 >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
 >>>
 >>> I could not migrate:
 >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
 >>
 >>
 >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
 >> under the OpenSC organization.
 >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
 >>
 >>> I have not tried to migrate:
 >>> - OpenCT
 >>> - OpenSC-Java
 >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
 >>
 >>
 >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
 >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
 >> no author and confuse svn2git.
 >
 > I will prepare github for you to use.

 Ready:
 https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>>>
>>>
>>> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
>>
>> No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
>> From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
>> Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
>> are formal upstream.
>
> OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
> You can now fork them on your side.

Thanks.
It would be lovely if you give me admin access to both of these.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Alon Bar-Lev :
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>  wrote:
>> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>>> wrote:
>>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I could not migrate:
>>> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
>>> >> under the OpenSC organization.
>>> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>>> >>
>>> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
>>> >>> - OpenCT
>>> >>> - OpenSC-Java
>>> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
>>> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
>>> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
>>> >
>>> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>>>
>>> Ready:
>>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>>
>>
>> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct
>
> No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
> From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
> Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
> are formal upstream.

OK. I deleted openct and pkcs11-helper to recreate them.
You can now fork them on your side.

Bye

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Alon Bar-Lev]

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
 wrote:
> 2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
>> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
>> >  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
>> >>>
>> >>> I could not migrate:
>> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
>> >> under the OpenSC organization.
>> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
>> >>
>> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
>> >>> - OpenCT
>> >>> - OpenSC-Java
>> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
>> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
>> >> no author and confuse svn2git.
>> >
>> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>>
>> Ready:
>> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>
>
> Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

No... it should not be forked it should be entire clone.
>From this one I should fork mine if I work on openct.
Same for other projects opensc repos should be the master as they
are formal upstream.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Ludovic Rousseau :
> 2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus 
>> SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
>> was used many, many years ago).
>> Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.
>
> I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the
> emails sent to their SF.net contact address.

That was fast.
Juha added me as admin.

It would be best if other active people are also added as admin.
Viktor, do you have a SourceForge account?

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/17 Andreas Jellinghaus 
> SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
> was used many, many years ago).
> Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.

I just sent a email to Olaf and Juha. I hope they still read the
emails sent to their SF.net contact address.

If we can't (re)use the SourceForge OpenSC project then hosting the
OpenSC mailing list(s) at groups.google.com would be a good solution.

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[opensc-devel] Admin access to the OpenSC project at SourceForge.net

[Ludovic Rousseau]

Hello Juha and Olaf,

The machine hosting https://www.opensc-project.org/ will be stopped at the
end of this year (2012). We are looking for a new hosting solution.

You both are admin of the OpenSC project at SourceForge.net. Can you add me
(login: ludov) as a new admin so we can use https://sourceforge
.net/projects/opensc/ as a new host? We plan to host the mailing list(s) at
SF.net.

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Ludovic Rousseau]

2012/11/16 Alon Bar-Lev 

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Alon Bar-Lev 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Ludovic Rousseau
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/11/14 Ludovic Rousseau 
> >>>
> >>> I could not migrate:
> >>> - pkcs11-help. Something fails in the authors names conversion
> >>
> >>
> >> I forked the github repository of Alon. pkcs11-helper is now available
> under the OpenSC organization.
> >> https://github.com/OpenSC/pkcs11-helper
> >>
> >>> I have not tried to migrate:
> >>> - OpenCT
> >>> - OpenSC-Java
> >>> Aren't these projects obsolete now?
> >>
> >>
> >> I tried to convert OpenCT.
> >> But I could not get the author correspondence. Some SVN revisions have
> no author and confuse svn2git.
> >
> > I will prepare github for you to use.
>
> Ready:
> https://github.com/alonbl/openct
>

Forked at https://github.com/OpenSC/openct

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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Jellinghaus]

2012/11/16 Viktor Tarasov :
> Hello Peter,
>
> Le 16/11/2012 21:42, Peter Stuge a écrit :
>> Viktor Tarasov wrote:
>>> I propose to start migration the week 19-25.11 . I'll have more free time:
>>> - sources: all sources will migrate to github;
>>> - CI: CI server is currently hosted by 'opensc.fr' ;
>>> - download: on the same platform can be hosted the file server;
>>> - TRAC (wiki?): it seems that Peter Stuge proposed to do something
>>> with Trac.
>>> Peter, if you are here, can you take this part, or at least explain
>>> how it could be done, please?
>>> If no suggestions, Trac can also be hosted by 'opensc.fr' .
>> Educating someone on how to do a migration is as I'm sure you know a
>> whole lot more work than performing the migration. If there's desire
>> I'm of course still happy to host a Trac, but please keep in mind
>> that Trac is a lot less useful when source code is somewhere else.
>
> It seems that decision to move all sources to github is accepted.
> Do you mean that with sources on github it would be more useful to use the 
> bug system and wiki on github,
> as Ludovic proposed,
> and not the Trac installed on someone's platform ?
> (I need some time to discover Trac's internals and how it interacts with SCM 
> .)
>
> As far as I understood, in any case we have to start from sqlite dump of the 
> current OpenSC Trac.
> Andreas, can you do it, please ?

sure, send a mail. trac is kept in postgresql though, not sqlite. we
have nightly backups, if you want the
dump files. plus of course the backup directory with templates,
attachments and so on.


>> Please add my SSH key on the server and let me know, if you want me
>> to look into moving Trac out.
>>
>>
>>> - mailling list: the same, if no other suggestions, I'm ready to
>>> install/migrate it to 'opensc.fr' platform.
>>> Would be nice if one of the experts explain what is the actions to
>>> follow for such migration.
>> I don't like mailman too much. I've set it up, but I don't use it.
>> I'd suggest using SF for the list(s?).
>
> Could you expand 'SF' or give the link, please?

SF is sourceforge.net I guess? it still has the opensc project (that
was used many, many years ago).
Owners are juha and olaf - if you can reach them, you can re-activate it.

Andreas

>
>> //Peter
>
> Kind regards,
> Viktor.
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Re: [opensc-devel] state of the project?

[Andreas Jellinghaus]

2012/11/16 Peter Stuge :
> Ludovic Rousseau wrote:
>> Andreas, the host available at opensc-project.org will disapear at the
>> end of the year 2012 [2].
>
> I think you misunderstood what Andreas wrote in his email.
>
> I think that what Andreas was saying is that someone else needs to be
> root and care for the machine.
>
> I don't expect that it will be any problem whatsoever to keep the VM
> around until whenever it is easy to change DNS, as long as someone is
> actually taking care of the system.

well, noone is maintaining the VM. so if we don't have enough resorces
for this now, it is not proper to assume we will magically have them
sometimes later. the more I think about it, the more I think using a
service is better than running your own server. github, sourceforge,
savannah, code.google.com - its not like we don't have options. worst
case I can do something, but it seems people already migrated all code
to github, so that part is taken care of. the mailing list is archived
in many other places, so I guess we don't need to migrate the mailing
list archive. as for the list itself, extracting subscribers and
asking them to subscribe somewhere (e.g. a new groups.google.com list
or some other place) should be easy.
as for trac: no idea what to do best. I think the wiki pages are
valuable. the bug tracking I see as nice to have, but not essential.
Of course if someone wants to invest time into this - then it is also
your choice to take the proper direction.

Andreas

> Of course when noone is able to and other offers aren't useful, then
> all that remains is to rely on free (beer) services like github or SF.
>
>
> //Peter
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