Re: [osol-discuss] 128a panic: need help...
I'm following along here, after clearing my zpool.cache: http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-disc...@opensolaris.org/msg31904.html Currently in a long zpool import. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Expecting NVDAgraphics v190.42 soon??
Masafumi Ohta wrote: I filed my report to bugzilla 12196 - need to add "pci10de,6f1",so are you going to add it to driver lists? The documented device ID for GeForce G105M is pci10de,6ec. Please send me (privately) the output of "prtconf -pv". Once I verify the device ID, I will add it to the next release driver but under a different bug than 12196 as that deals with the need to create a new BE starting with b125. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Expecting NVDAgraphics v190.42 soon??
(2009/12/09 11:43), Alan Coopersmith wrote: Masafumi Ohta wrote: Hi Alan, I filed my report to bugzilla 12196 - need to add "pci10de,6f1",so are you going to add it to driver lists? That question needs to be addressed to John, not me - I can't change what devices the nvidia driver binds to - only John or Nvidia can. Okay,got that, thanks, -masafumi ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Expecting NVDAgraphics v190.42 soon??
Masafumi Ohta wrote: > Hi Alan, > > I filed my report to bugzilla 12196 - need to add "pci10de,6f1",so are > you going to add it to driver lists? That question needs to be addressed to John, not me - I can't change what devices the nvidia driver binds to - only John or Nvidia can. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Expecting NVDAgraphics v190.42 soon??
(2009/12/08 2:18), Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ken Mays wrote: Hello, The latest Nvidia 190.42 driver is not included on the latest snv_128a development ISO yet. It integrated to 129. The next IPS update is expected to have the latest Nvidia 190.42 driver. I'm expecting this IPS update will come out right before the Xmas holiday. 129 should be a bit before that. The Xorg 7.5/Xserver 1.7.3 update will come after that AFAIK. It integrated to 130. Hi Alan, I filed my report to bugzilla 12196 - need to add "pci10de,6f1",so are you going to add it to driver lists? -masafumi ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] 128a panic: need help...
The machine is booting again, still stuck at "Reading ZFS Config: *" There is disk activity, so I can leave it to finish whatever it's doing, unless someone has advice. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] 128a panic: need help...
Steps: - Upgraded to 128a - Upgraded one pool to v22 - Enabled dedup for pool - Created new dataset, destroyed it, created again - Started migrating a snapshot using zfs send/recv - Weekly scrub started (slowly...) - Machine stopped responding to input (maybe swap death) - Rebooted - Stuck at "Reading ZFS Config: *" - Waited 20 minutes (disk activity), no mounts - Rebooted - Panic loop, reboot, panic, reboot... Next going to try booting from CD to see if I can import the pools. Any other advice/tips? This pool has some important data for me. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris 2009.06 ZFS - COMSTAR iSCSI - NFS Reboot Issue
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Amos Deering wrote: > Maybe I have done something wrong when I set it up. > > I will start from scratch. > > iSCSI is really the main thing, the Cifs was just a kicker. > > Any pointers on setting up COMSTAR iSCSI, I used the following link for my > information. > > http://wikis.sun.com/display/BluePrints/Provisioning+with+iSCSI+and+Solaris+ZFS+in+10+Minutes > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > ___ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > I missed some of the earlier threads, but have you turned on crash saves? Run 'dumpadm' to see if dump saving is enabled. Next time it crashes, you can use MDB to get some good bits to pass on to a developer. -- Brent Jones br...@servuhome.net ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris 2009.06 ZFS - COMSTAR iSCSI - NFS Reboot Issue
Maybe I have done something wrong when I set it up. I will start from scratch. iSCSI is really the main thing, the Cifs was just a kicker. Any pointers on setting up COMSTAR iSCSI, I used the following link for my information. http://wikis.sun.com/display/BluePrints/Provisioning+with+iSCSI+and+Solaris+ZFS+in+10+Minutes -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OSOL Acronym List
Hi Everett, * Everett Batey (efba...@gmail.com) wrote: > For those of us really old SunOS (68000 2/50 onward) / Unix > (migrating to OSOL) folks is there a web based Acronym > Soup list .. trying to get OSOL 09/06 up on Ultra10, min > memory, hopefully with OSOL equivalent of VirtualBox .. with > SOUGOS (sudden old unix guy onset senility) I really need > help. Offline is good too, to help keep the hate down. You're likely to be unimpressed for several reasons. I believe the minimum memory for the Ultra 10 was 512M. While usable, ZFS will perform better with more memory. Also, graphics support in OpenSolaris for SPARC hardware isn't anywhere near as complete as on x86. I don't recall what shipped in the Ultra-10 for graphics but I doubt it's supported whatever it was. And lastly, there is no OSOL equivalent to VirtualBox on sparc (unless you mean something like LDOMS which isn't similar really, VirtualBox doesn't run on sparc). If you want to play with OSOL 2009/06 you'll have a much better experience installing it inside VirtualBox (on a platform that VirtualBox can be installed on) instead of an Ultra-10. Cheers, -- Glenn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] OSOL Acronym List
For those of us really old SunOS (68000 2/50 onward) / Unix (migrating to OSOL) folks is there a web based Acronym Soup list .. trying to get OSOL 09/06 up on Ultra10, min memory, hopefully with OSOL equivalent of VirtualBox .. with SOUGOS (sudden old unix guy onset senility) I really need help. Offline is good too, to help keep the hate down. TIA, Everett -- efba...@gmail.com ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Solaris Internals wiki down?
It appears to be. Would the owner/operator be open to the idea of allowing the mirroring of this important resource? /dale ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
> Jörg Stephan schrieb: > [...] > Why doesn't Linux support ZFS? > If does! In user mode through FUSE. Just the same way as, I've heard, if you're really determined you can implement NTFS under OpenSolaris. Francois -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] BFU to b128a
Ian Allison wrote: > I've submitted a bug report at bugs.opensolaris.org. It seems to be in > the system (CR 6908102), but I can't find a URL for it by searching. > I'll post it if I find it (or if I can fix the bug :) bugs.opensolaris.org only updates from the internal database once a day, so it may take up to 24 hours for your bug to become visible on the web site. When it is, it should appear at: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6908102 Sun employees can view it right away in the internal database though. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] BFU to b128a
Hi Brian, Thanks for all your help, Brian Ruthven - Solaris Network Sustaining - Sun UK wrote: Looking at the script, it would seem that by installing the packages you mention, you've avoided the faulty bit of script. Nevertheless, in your case it's fixed your problem, but there still exists something (a bug?) in the ufs-handling part of the script. Would you be able to log a bug on it please, specifying what you initially did to install, then the exact steps (commands typed, etc...) to get to the bfu stage? I've submitted a bug report at bugs.opensolaris.org. It seems to be in the system (CR 6908102), but I can't find a URL for it by searching. I'll post it if I find it (or if I can fix the bug :) Thanks, Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Expecting NVDAgraphics v190.42 soon??
John Martin wrote: Paul Gress wrote: Any word on 195.22 beta yet. I've downloaded this one already, but it requires a lot of work to install it and is not integrated properly into Opensolaris (VM). As you note it is still beta, so it isn't a candidate for bunding. The Sun version of this driver (SYSV packages with xVM dom0, MSI, fastreboot) is available at: http://home.comcast.net/~jdmartin99/NVIDIA-Solaris-x86-195.22-xVM.run I'm curious as to "a lot of work to install" other than you must create a new BE starting with b125, but that isn't specific to this driver. I'm at b128 right now. Yes, what I meant was all the steps to create a new BE, but ultimately, I was just looking for the link to the to the beta integrated with xvm. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] (REPOST) Open Solaris on SPARC, DOD/DON Users
(REPOST) Anxious to find other DOD/DON users with Open Solaris on SPARC. A survival issue. Off net answers okay to e...@cotdazr.org -- R/ Ev Batey, Navy, Port Hueneme CA IM (DCO): everett.ba...@navy.mil Office: DSN 296-7180 / VA 703 879-6471 Cell & Days: (805) 616-2471 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
Wow! Didnt expect this much reply, so thanks to all. I think i understood most of the "problems" if they are a problem. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] install/update/uninstall adobe reader/firefox/jdk
1) Sure. Then why do you talk about school? I know a lot of people which weren't able to successfully end their primary school and they are real gurus now because they learned it by them self. Because people are different? People from Unix world use mainly words 'package manager' and people from Win world use 'installation gui' or similar. Why do you need to buy Solaris every year? Oh that magical TCO world. I choose system for customers based on their needs. Not in every case is price main reason for decision. Some system may have very good TCO, but will be very slow and buggy with your application so you will choose it just because of TCO and not other features? Solaris/OpenSolaris offer ZFS. There is only small competitor in DragonflyBSD with its Hammer FS. So you will offer for customer something another where they can loose data just because it has lower TCO? 2) Who cares? I use (and many companies or people) Unix because it's best for my needs. I know a lot of Windows admins which use Unix because of it's features at least on server. People which have Apple use Unix. A lot of people use Windows. No problem with it for me. If it's what they want and appropriate for they needs then ok. Everyone may choose. It's called freedom ;-) 3) Yes, start GUI Package Manager in OpenSolaris ;-) Don't know right name for similar app on Apple but they have it too. Ubuntu has similar app and so on. On OpenBSD there is no gui for package manager. I don't need it and what? Some apps on Windows inform you after uninstall that there are some directories which weren't automatically removed. Did you use Windows? Do you know why networking in Windows is good? Take a look at C:\Windows\system32\drivers ;-) Oh what the hell...there is a etc directory and in that directory there is eg. hosts file. Where I saw these files? Oh...I can remember...on Unix ;-D Take a look trough history. Windows implemented TCP/IP stack from BSD ;-) In OpenSolaris you have nwam which set network for you automatically because most of networks use DHCP. You can change it to static with GUI too. Still same as in Windows. And in Windows you can do much more in cmd.exe as in Unix in console ;-) Oh Space Shuttle.I thought that it will end in 2011 or so and then they will go back to older technology (Apollo like) with modern "engine" insight. So still something like Unix. Old look from outside, great technologies inside ;-) You can't read plain text? Sorry so you can't read a lot of great books available in libraries or in shops. It's scary. Really sorry. No one can read so much manuals eg. for Java and so on. But if you know some basics then you are able to work with any language because principles are same. You just think that they are intuitive because you are working with them for longer time. Try test with children or someone who can see PC for the first time and run OpenSolaris, Ubuntu or MacOs for them. You will see that they are able use it very quickly. I saw it many times. Children are especially best in this area. Funny thing is that they are able to work with Windows without problems too. So somewhere is problem in your idea ;-) You installed time tracking app for masses? Such a big guy. Install something is really hard work. Why it's not in Solaris? Did you ported it? Or did you pay someone for port? No? So why do you talk those . ? :-) I'm so happy that I'm incorrigible unix user. Because I use Windows, Linux, OpenBSD, Solaris/OpenSolaris, MacOs. I offer and admin Windows for people or companies which want/need it and so on. And I'm much more happy that I'm not so "clever" user which come to OpenSolaris forum and shout how OpenSolaris is bad because I don't understand it and that only Windows are only way ;-) Eh one thing to mention. My preferred OS is OpenBSD ;-) Whee what to do now? I must found some errors in OpenBSD, isn't it? :-D I don't say to users that they must use CLI ;-) I install system for them, they pay me for it and then they can use it without problems in GUI ;-) Because user != admin .If you aren't able to install and setup system then don't cry and pay someone for it. Ok enough. If you will have normal school then you will be able to find on Internet that Firefox was renamed from 3.1x to 3.5 during development cycle and that at least for Unix systems there were/are three versions available 2.x, 3.1x and 3.5x. It was in time before 2009.06 so looks like developers weren't able to do that in time. Don't know why but of course you have 3.5x version in dev repositories. Everyone can blame OpenSolaris developers or Sun, but it must be done with intelligence and I don't talk about intelligence of brick. There are problems in OpenSolaris and bugs too and competent user know it. Just unqualified users talk about CLI or similar as something death and unneeded and that every OS on the Earth must integrate concepts of Windows or GUI in generall. -- Th
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
Thomas Maier-Komor wrote: Jörg Stephan schrieb: Hi there, at the weekend i installed OpenSolaris 2009.06 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ with 1GB DDR Ram. I wanted to try virtualization with VirtualBox. But i there where some things i really dont like, maybe you can help me to understand why it is and when it will work 1. Why uses OpenSolaris 95% of Ram directly after install (By the way same machine other OS takes 30%) Memory is cheap - just get another gigabyte. Running Opensolaris without Java Desktop works fine for me with only ~800MB in a VirtualBox. Even with 512MB the system comes up. Very few modern UNIX/Linuxes have much "free" RAM - anything not being used for an application is allocated to disk cacheing. Take a look at the output of 'top' - it will show you very little free memory. Caches of course, are just that - when you need the RAM, the amount allocated to disk cache is just reduced. Solaris is also a 64-bit OS, which by it's very nature consumes more RAM than a 32-bit system. That said, most GUI interfaces consume a non-trivial amount of RAM. On my Ubuntu system, a typical GNOME-based setup consumes 400MB+ RAM for all the GUI-related applications running - that's just the background systems stuff (nautilus, gnome-panel, sawfish, etc.) As a relative comparison, on similar hardware, here's what I see on my VM instances (right after boot, no apps running, excluding disk cache): Window 2000 SP4: 180MB Windows XP SP3: 210MB Ubuntu 6.04 LTS (32-bit) & Gnome 2.4:300MB SLES 8 64-bit & KDE 3:330MB Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (32-bit) & Gnome 2.22:400MB Windows 2003 Enterprise x64:400MB Windows Vista Ultimate x64:600MB Solaris 10 Update 8 64-bit:550MB OpenSolaris 2009.06:600MB 2. What about LVM and ext2,3,4 Support? I t would look better if i could use my old linux storage discs by just plugging them in. Why doesn't Linux support ZFS? Honestly, besides the fact that the code for implementing those Linux features are GPL'd, and thus cannot be ported directly to Solaris, is that most of LVM's features are available in Solaris Volume Manager (nee DiskSuite), and that ZFS is radically superior to LVM. The Ext2,3,4 filesystems are horribly obsolete; in addition, the ability to read a wide variety of filesystems is really only useful for an OS which is intended to be multi-booted with others frequently. OpenSolaris really isn't this type of OS - it can be, but that's not it's real target. There's no real need to support much more than the FAT-derived filesystem, and then only for data interchange (i.e. USB flash/floppy disks) 3. Why does the boot of the System takes so long? I could drink a coffee. I mean the mashine isnt that slow. The first boot takes very long because the services database needs to be initialized. All subsequent boots should be pretty fast. Agreed - after the very first boot, you should see boot times comparable to Linux - roughly 90-120 seconds on typical systems. It sometimes feels slower, since you don't get the visual feedback Linux gives you, nor do you get that nice little "cylon" bar that Windows shows. Also, particularly as compared to Windows, don't think that Windows is done booting when you get the login prompt - it's not. It still has 1-2 minutes of background loading to do. Solaris and Linux generally present you with the login prompt as one of the last things in the boot cycle. 4. Why doenst + switch to an console? Or better question... Where is the console? I think you have to enable additional virtual consoles manually. Only the physical console is active per default. As pointed out elsewhere, virtual consoles were not available in 2009.06. They are now in the development branch, and will be part of the default 2010.03 release. After all. I really like Solaris. But this 4 Points make it a bit bad. Point 2 is the biggest problem. First i could solve by buying ram which isnt expencive, but my storage data would be necessary. Copying 400GB Data just takes too long, even when i must insert it into a different machine to make scp or so. Thank for listening Jörg Frankly, disk is even cheaper than RAM, so if what you need to data interchange between a Solaris and Linux system, use FAT/vFAT. Solaris generally refers to this as the 'pcfs' filesystem. -- Erik Trimble Java System Support Mailstop: usca22-123 Phone: x17195 Santa Clara, CA Timezone: US/Pacific (GMT-0800) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris 2009.06 ZFS - COMSTAR iSCSI - NFS Reboot Issue
No, expectations of a stable file server while doing iscsi/cifs/nfs are reasonable. I wish I had the skills to help you troubleshoot, but sadly I do not. My only recommendation is to get Sun support if you can swing it, and work with them towards a solution. My experience with Sun support was positive. -Scott -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
Jörg Stephan wrote: Hi there, at the weekend i installed OpenSolaris 2009.06 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ with 1GB DDR Ram. I wanted to try virtualization with VirtualBox. But i there where some things i really dont like, maybe you can help me to understand why it is and when it will work 1. Why uses OpenSolaris 95% of Ram directly after install (By the way same machine other OS takes 30%) How did you measure the memory usage? The gnome-system-monitor reports incorrect statistics in OS 2009.06. See http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=4751. The issue is fixed in dev_130 and it will be available in /dev repository soon. Until then use the prstat commandline utility for reliable results. Thanks, Krishnan ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 06:10:40AM -0800, J??rg Stephan wrote: > Hi there, > > at the weekend i installed OpenSolaris 2009.06 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ > with 1GB DDR Ram. I wanted to try virtualization with VirtualBox. But i there > where some things i really dont like, maybe you can help me to understand why > it is and when it will work > > 1. Why uses OpenSolaris 95% of Ram directly after install (By the way same > machine other OS takes 30%) I believe OpenSolaris caches everything it can to improve performance. As it has been discussed before, if the memory is desperately needed by another application it will be freed. > > 2. What about LVM and ext2,3,4 Support? I t would look better if i could use > my old linux storage discs by just plugging them in. It might make migration easier, but then we wouldn't be able to use ZFS, which would be a crying shame. > 3. Why does the boot of the System takes so long? I could drink a coffee. I > mean the mashine isnt that slow. This can depend on several things. As someone pointed out already, the initial boot takes longer due to building the smf database. If you have a large number of ZFS filesystems, it can also increase the boot time dramatically. > 4. Why doenst + switch to an console? Or better question... Where is > the console? I'm not sure sorry, i don't run X on any of mine. > After all. I really like Solaris. But this 4 Points make it a bit bad. Point > 2 is the biggest problem. First i could solve by buying ram which isnt > expencive, but my storage data would be necessary. Copying 400GB Data just > takes too long, even when i must insert it into a different machine to make > scp or so. I agree that copying massive amounts of data can be a pain, but it's not somthing that should need to be done every day. Most people would be happy to spend a day copying if it meant they could move from ext* to ZFS. I think, while some people might find a use for linux FS support, it won't be enough for it to be included in the kernel, unless you fancy writing it yourself of course :) As far as the RAM usage goes, do you find you are actually running out of RAM? Are applications dying because there is not free memory? Or is it just the free memory statistics that have you worried? Hope some of this helps you. Matt ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Jörg Stephan wrote: > Hi there, > > at the weekend i installed OpenSolaris 2009.06 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ > with 1GB DDR Ram. I wanted to try virtualization with VirtualBox. But i there > where some things i really dont like, maybe you can help me to understand why > it is and when it will work [...]> 2. What about LVM and ext2,3,4 Support? I t would look better if i could use my old linux storage discs by just plugging them in. You can use my Ext2/3 module as described below but it is Read-Only: http://www.sun.drydog.com/faq/9.html#9.24 There is a native Ext2 module being developed for OpenSolaris but the project is in development and you have to build it from sources AFAIK: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+ext3/Project_status Regards, Moinak. -- http://www.belenix.org/ http://moinakg.wordpress.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
1) Buy more memory. Update OpenSolaris trough dev repository and post outputs of 'vmstat 1 10' and 'top' commands 2) It's OpenSolaris. Read about ZFS first, try it and you will hate ext* very quickly. 3) Memory and maybe some problem with your HW thanks to info that your installation take 95% or RAM. So again some info about your HW will be great like 'prtdiag -v' and similar. 4) Initial support is in dev versions. But you have Terminal instead if you need it immediately. I can really recommend to move your data to ZFS or implement ZFS on your other disks and prepare some SW RAID. Of course if you want to be your data in safe ;-) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
Jörg Stephan schrieb: > Hi there, > > at the weekend i installed OpenSolaris 2009.06 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ > with 1GB DDR Ram. I wanted to try virtualization with VirtualBox. But i there > where some things i really dont like, maybe you can help me to understand why > it is and when it will work > > 1. Why uses OpenSolaris 95% of Ram directly after install (By the way same > machine other OS takes 30%) > Memory is cheap - just get another gigabyte. Running Opensolaris without Java Desktop works fine for me with only ~800MB in a VirtualBox. Even with 512MB the system comes up. > 2. What about LVM and ext2,3,4 Support? I t would look better if i could use > my old linux storage discs by just plugging them in. > Why doesn't Linux support ZFS? > 3. Why does the boot of the System takes so long? I could drink a coffee. I > mean the mashine isnt that slow. > The first boot takes very long because the services database needs to be initialized. All subsequent boots should be pretty fast. > 4. Why doenst + switch to an console? Or better question... Where is > the console? > I think you have to enable additional virtual consoles manually. Only the physical console is active per default. > After all. I really like Solaris. But this 4 Points make it a bit bad. Point > 2 is the biggest problem. First i could solve by buying ram which isnt > expencive, but my storage data would be necessary. Copying 400GB Data just > takes too long, even when i must insert it into a different machine to make > scp or so. > > Thank for listening > > Jörg Have fun! - Thomas ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
Jörg Stephan wrote: > 4. Why doenst + switch to an console? Or better question... Where is > the console? Because you're using 2009.06 and the implementation of virtual consoles wasn't finished until after that. To get to the text console in 2009.06, stop gdm & X by running 'svcadm disable -t gdm' - restart them with 'svcadm enable gdm'. If you upgrade to a development build, then you'll be able to enable virtual console switching between X & text consoles. -- -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Some Why?-Questions
Hi there, at the weekend i installed OpenSolaris 2009.06 on an AMD Athlon64 X2 5200+ with 1GB DDR Ram. I wanted to try virtualization with VirtualBox. But i there where some things i really dont like, maybe you can help me to understand why it is and when it will work 1. Why uses OpenSolaris 95% of Ram directly after install (By the way same machine other OS takes 30%) 2. What about LVM and ext2,3,4 Support? I t would look better if i could use my old linux storage discs by just plugging them in. 3. Why does the boot of the System takes so long? I could drink a coffee. I mean the mashine isnt that slow. 4. Why doenst + switch to an console? Or better question... Where is the console? After all. I really like Solaris. But this 4 Points make it a bit bad. Point 2 is the biggest problem. First i could solve by buying ram which isnt expencive, but my storage data would be necessary. Copying 400GB Data just takes too long, even when i must insert it into a different machine to make scp or so. Thank for listening Jörg -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] install/update/uninstall adobe reader/firefox/jdk
1) It does not need to do with school. It is with using multiple words to name the software. manuals call it solaris installation gui, people and opensolaris calls it package manager. kudos to following naming consistency. Companies are more frugal than individuals in any economic situation. Don't expect them to buy support. Anyway buying support (5 or 10) apart from buying solaris each year may not be good economic decision. Sure they will compare the total cost of ownership (I don't know the total cost of ownership of other operating systems except solaris). 2) This is the best reason I found already that most people don't use unix. 3) Every software that is installed will be reflected in add/remove programs in windows(May I ask the corresponding software in unix). Directly removing installed software directories in windows is not done by any normal admin windows user. This does not apply to software that can be installed simply by unpacking the zip files. Networking in windows is so good that it takes care all of it itself at least for basic internet network connections(unlike open/solaris static ip issue). Ping is used only to know when my internet connection is up once broken. Most home users only contend with internet connections. Others then come to learn cui commands. Space shuttle is just like unix. There are even better things will come down the line. just wait. why hurry? They will replace cui with gui. usually that industry is very slow to adapt to new things(touch screens will come next. ha ha ha.). I can not read plain text, but i can write plain text(Is not it?). Anyway most of those graduate studies(except basics) are as useless as any other useless things which do not come to help in any software/hardware job. I am lots of java/j2ee manuals from sun and others to read. You expect every user to read all these manuals. What I expect is minimize them in most common things. I do not hate to use cui commands(I use lots of it in j2ee). For most of the common things and for widespread use, whatever i told holds true. You are perfect example typical incorrigible unix user. As long as users like you preach to use cui commands for most common daily tasks, unix will remain like so. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
