[osol-discuss] ConsoleKit/gdm not detecting Xvnc failure

2010-03-30 Thread Lee Essen
Hi,

I'm using snv_134 and I've managed to get the VNC 'display' working nicely 
within ConsoleKit, but I have noticed that if Xvnc dies (which it does if you 
hit the shift-key bug) then it doesn't get restarted.

If I disable and then re-enable consolekit then it starts back up again.

I can't see anything in any logs that might help.

Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

BTW -- with a completely standard snv_134 build Xvnc doesn't seem to work with 
console kit because of compiz ... I have added -extension Composite to get 
everything working.

Cheers,

Lee.
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Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-30 Thread Ghee Teo
ogb-discuss is the wrong alias. so send this to 
opensolaris-disc...@opensolaris.org.

What you need is cron(1M)
see man cron for details.

-Ghee

On 03/29/10 10:55 PM, Marco Reyes Rasse wrote:
Hello, my name is Marco Reyes from Chile, i new in this mailing list, 
i need help with one Scheduled Tasks for OpenSolaris and SunSolaris, 
and i have make one script to check if one folder of server is empty 
or not, this task should be executed at certain times of day.


Helpme with this please.
Sorry bad writing, i traing of learning english
Thanks



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Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-30 Thread Ghee Teo

oops, forgot to include Marco.

On 03/30/10 11:38 AM, Ghee Teo wrote:
ogb-discuss is the wrong alias. so send this to 
opensolaris-disc...@opensolaris.org.

What you need is cron(1M)
see man cron for details.

-Ghee

On 03/29/10 10:55 PM, Marco Reyes Rasse wrote:
Hello, my name is Marco Reyes from Chile, i new in this mailing list, 
i need help with one Scheduled Tasks for OpenSolaris and SunSolaris, 
and i have make one script to check if one folder of server is empty 
or not, this task should be executed at certain times of day.


Helpme with this please.
Sorry bad writing, i traing of learning english
Thanks



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Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Scheduled Tasks

2010-03-30 Thread James Carlson
This doesn't sound like a governance issue; redirecting to
opensolaris-discuss.

Marco Reyes Rasse wrote:
 Hello, my name is Marco Reyes from Chile, i new in this mailing list, i
 need help with one Scheduled Tasks for OpenSolaris and SunSolaris, and i
 have make one script to check if one folder of server is empty or not,
 this task should be executed at certain times of day.

You can run scheduled tasks using cron.  See the crontab(1M) man page.
For example, this entry will make the /export/myscript program run
once a day at 8AM local time:

0 8 * * * /export/myscript

As for checking whether a directory is empty, it depends on the shell
you're using, but one way to check emptiness is with Perl:

perl -e 'opendir D, $ARGV[0]; $i++ while (readdir D); print $i\n;' \
   directoryname

That'll print 2 or less if the directory is empty.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free

2010-03-30 Thread Mike DeMarco
Most of us that run OpenSolaris rely on Solaris 10 also. We live our day to day 
on Solaris 10 and OpenSolaris. As far as I am concerned they go hand in hand 
and a major event affecting one of them has ramifications on both. The 
discussions that go on on this list are not 100% OpenSolaris but are a 
collection of like topics that draw like interests. If you do not like a topic 
you can skip over it. I do not understand people that have to get on a thread 
and trash it for being in the wrong place, Why do you not just skip reading 
this thread if you do not agree with it being here. Why can you not just leave 
the thread alone.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free

2010-03-30 Thread Brandon Hume
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 06:47 -0700, Mike DeMarco wrote:
  If you do not like a topic you can skip over it. I do not understand people 
 that have to get on a thread and trash it for being in the wrong place, Why 
 do you not just skip reading this thread if you do not agree with it being 
 here. Why can you not just leave the thread alone.

This may come as a bit of a shock, but a large number of us are
subscribed via email.  We get those emails whether we're interested in
the thread or not.

As it happens, I *am* interested in this particular thread, as I suspect
it may be an indicator that Oracle may not play their attitude to OSol
as straight as we'd hope, but I can very much understand others'
annoyance with the non-OSol specific noise.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free

2010-03-30 Thread Mike DeMarco
 
 This may come as a bit of a shock, but a large number
 of us are
 subscribed via email.  We get those emails whether
 we're interested in
 the thread or not.

Not at all. I to subscribe via email and have my email sort via filters that 
process the emails for me. I read what I want and trash the rest. Not a big 
deal, I find some interesting side bars out by this processes and am thankful 
to people that post. I do not want to live in a tunnel and learn much from side 
bar information. I personally find it unacceptable to have my world limited by 
what others find acceptable, dictatorship
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free

2010-03-30 Thread ken mays
I'll just reply here for clarity purposes. So after day 90, does Oracle Solaris 
10 stop working or hit some limited-feature usage activation?!? Is Oracle 
saying to stop using Solaris 10 after 90 days or else we get fined?!?

The two tracks, OpenSolaris and Solaris 10, are not affected the same way. 
OpenSolaris is an open source community-involved project. Solaris 10 is a 
closed source production 'competitively enterprise-marketed' commercial 
product. Not everything in the realms of OpenSolaris-based projects will make 
their way into the final Oracle Solaris product. Some parts of Solaris 10 were 
dropped from the official binary OpenSoalris-based distros. How they are looked 
at and supported are a bit different as well as licenses.

I'd expect bigger corporations with large server deployments to pay for 24x7 or 
even 12x5 Solaris 10 technical web/phone support - as doing it for free does 
not make good business sense. The license evolves somewhat around that subject 
matter. 

Now, I'd ring a very large bell if Oracle Solaris 10 downloads were stopped and 
you had to pay for the downloads. I'd ring it louder if Oracle support forums 
and such became a paid service. But the community has a WEALTH of professional 
service consultants, Oracle partners, engineers, developers, analysts, and 
business people to resolve the majority of issues dealing with Solaris 10 - 
either for free or for a small fee. As long as you can download and access your 
copy of Solaris 10 - why rock the boat harder due to the current 90-day 
license?!?

Maybe what Oracle should have said is, don't call us if you are using Oracle 
Solaris 10 in a commercial environment and don't want to pay us for major 
break/fix technical support after your initial 90-day usage of it. 

The main issue was dealing with civil discussion and Solaris 10 licensing.
The non-civil discussion spawned a larger forked debate. As for the licensing, 
I'll try to point out that Oracle's statement means moreso that
after 90-days you'll pay for Oracle's support - mainly if you are using Solaris 
10 for commercial use and expect Oracle to 'officially' help you.

Other like-minded corporations usually give you 30-90 days of free technical 
support and usage, then tell you that continued usage requires PAID technical 
break/fix and phone support. Some companies give you a year of a free support 
subscription if you got the product through an OEM or VAR. But, if you call 
them with some MAJOR break/fix issue and tie up their help desk personnel, then 
they ask for you to pay for that support.

So again, download your copy of Solaris 10 10/09 ASAP if you don't already have 
it and pay for whatever =90 day warranty or technical support you need. 
Otherwise, you have other options to utilize for your work or hobbist 
environment.

May our cups run over,
Ken Mays




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 From: Mike DeMarco mikej...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free
 To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
 Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:47 AM
 Most of us that run OpenSolaris rely
 on Solaris 10 also. We live our day to day on Solaris 10 and
 OpenSolaris. As far as I am concerned they go hand in hand
 and a major event affecting one of them has ramifications on
 both. The discussions that go on on this list are not 100%
 OpenSolaris but are a collection of like topics that draw
 like interests. If you do not like a topic you can skip over
 it. I do not understand people that have to get on a thread
 and trash it for being in the wrong place, Why do you not
 just skip reading this thread if you do not agree with it
 being here. Why can you not just leave the thread alone.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free

2010-03-30 Thread Matthias Pfützner
None of Sun's or Oracle's actual products has real license keys build into the
software. So, it will not stop nor be feature-reduced!

You only will no longer be allowed to used it. When or if-at-all Oracle
might think about sueing you, is totally unclear... They are entiteld to do
so, but Oracle would need a real business case to really try to fine you... My
guess...

And the removal of software-components from Solaris 10, and not putting those
into OpenSolaris were license issues. All DT stuff is based on Motif, which
is not free, nor opensource. Therefore they needed to be removed, as an
example.

Matthias

You (ken mays) wrote:
 I'll just reply here for clarity purposes. So after day 90, does Oracle 
 Solaris 10 stop working or hit some limited-feature usage activation?!? Is 
 Oracle saying to stop using Solaris 10 after 90 days or else we get fined?!?
 
 The two tracks, OpenSolaris and Solaris 10, are not affected the same way. 
 OpenSolaris is an open source community-involved project. Solaris 10 is a 
 closed source production 'competitively enterprise-marketed' commercial 
 product. Not everything in the realms of OpenSolaris-based projects will make 
 their way into the final Oracle Solaris product. Some parts of Solaris 10 
 were dropped from the official binary OpenSoalris-based distros. How they are 
 looked at and supported are a bit different as well as licenses.
 
 I'd expect bigger corporations with large server deployments to pay for 24x7 
 or even 12x5 Solaris 10 technical web/phone support - as doing it for free 
 does not make good business sense. The license evolves somewhat around that 
 subject matter. 
 
 Now, I'd ring a very large bell if Oracle Solaris 10 downloads were stopped 
 and you had to pay for the downloads. I'd ring it louder if Oracle support 
 forums and such became a paid service. But the community has a WEALTH of 
 professional service consultants, Oracle partners, engineers, developers, 
 analysts, and business people to resolve the majority of issues dealing with 
 Solaris 10 - either for free or for a small fee. As long as you can download 
 and access your copy of Solaris 10 - why rock the boat harder due to the 
 current 90-day license?!?
 
 Maybe what Oracle should have said is, don't call us if you are using Oracle 
 Solaris 10 in a commercial environment and don't want to pay us for major 
 break/fix technical support after your initial 90-day usage of it. 
 
 The main issue was dealing with civil discussion and Solaris 10 licensing.
 The non-civil discussion spawned a larger forked debate. As for the 
 licensing, I'll try to point out that Oracle's statement means moreso that
 after 90-days you'll pay for Oracle's support - mainly if you are using 
 Solaris 10 for commercial use and expect Oracle to 'officially' help you.
 
 Other like-minded corporations usually give you 30-90 days of free technical 
 support and usage, then tell you that continued usage requires PAID technical 
 break/fix and phone support. Some companies give you a year of a free support 
 subscription if you got the product through an OEM or VAR. But, if you call 
 them with some MAJOR break/fix issue and tie up their help desk personnel, 
 then they ask for you to pay for that support.
 
 So again, download your copy of Solaris 10 10/09 ASAP if you don't already 
 have it and pay for whatever =90 day warranty or technical support you need. 
 Otherwise, you have other options to utilize for your work or hobbist 
 environment.
 
 May our cups run over,
 Ken Mays
 
 
 
 
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  From: Mike DeMarco mikej...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 - no longer free
  To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
  Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 9:47 AM
  Most of us that run OpenSolaris rely
  on Solaris 10 also. We live our day to day on Solaris 10 and
  OpenSolaris. As far as I am concerned they go hand in hand
  and a major event affecting one of them has ramifications on
  both. The discussions that go on on this list are not 100%
  OpenSolaris but are a collection of like topics that draw
  like interests. If you do not like a topic you can skip over
  it. I do not understand people that have to get on a thread
  and trash it for being in the wrong place, Why do you not
  just skip reading this thread if you do not agree with it
  being here. Why can you not just leave the thread alone.
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Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Mike La Spina
Hi Matt,

It's so nice to hear the sound of reason. I can only say good things about the 
progress of OpenSolaris thus far and the gift we have of using it freely. So 
let's be optimistic which helps create an even better OpenSolaris product and 
Community.

Thanks,

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Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Appreciated! Hopefully folks can muster up the strength to be patient, become 
resilient to the FUD and look forward to a bright future!

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Re: [osol-discuss] Need a comprehensive subversion tutorial

2010-03-30 Thread Will Fiveash
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:35:45PM -0700, jayson jamandra wrote:
 Good day guys. I want to know if there are any step by step tutorials in 
 implementing/installing/using subversion in opensolaris. What i need is from 
 installation up to usage of subversion. thanks. BTW, Iam using tomcat server.

I don't have time to give you all the details but I can say that you
need to install this OpenSolaris package:

developer/versioning/subversion

which is on the opensolaris.org publisher repository.

This site has very good docs including a tutorial:
http://svnbook.red-bean.com/

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[osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Hello!

  I am really considering to give a talk about OpenSolaris at the Ohio Linux 
Fest 2010. Would I need to get special approval for something like this or to 
use the trademarks, etc.? Thoughts anyone?

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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread bsd
Are you going to tell them to use 2009.06 since everything after that is broken?
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Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread bsd
Out of curiosity, since OpenSolaris is mostly open binary licenses and not 
source code, what would happen if Oracle rescinded those licenses?
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Giovanni Tirloni
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Matthew Nawrocki 
matthew.nawro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello!

  I am really considering to give a talk about OpenSolaris at the Ohio Linux
 Fest 2010. Would I need to get special approval for something like this or
 to use the trademarks, etc.? Thoughts anyone?


You don't need permission to talk about anything.

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Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Svein Skogen
On 30.03.2010 20:44, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:35 PM, bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com
 mailto:mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Out of curiosity, since OpenSolaris is mostly open binary licenses
 and not source code, what would happen if Oracle rescinded those
 licenses?
 
 
 The community would have to find replacements for these:
 
 ./etc/init.d/llc2
 ./etc/llc2/llc2_start.default
 ./etc/rc0.d/K52llc2
 ./etc/rc1.d/K52llc2
 ./etc/rc2.d/S40llc2
 ./etc/rcS.d/K52llc2
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.example
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.gfi.multi
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.gfi.single
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.multi
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.single
 ./etc/snmp/conf/mibiisa.reg
 ./etc/snmp/conf/snmpd.conf
 ./kernel/drv/acpi_toshiba
 ./kernel/drv/adpu320
 ./kernel/drv/adpu320.conf
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/acpi_toshiba
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/adpu320
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/atiatom
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/bcm_sata
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/bnx
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/bnxe
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/cpqary3
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/glm
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/intel_nhmex
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/iprb
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/ixgb
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/lsimega
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/marvell88sx
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/mpt
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/pcn
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/pcser
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/sdpib
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/usbser_edge
 ./kernel/drv/atiatom
 ./kernel/drv/bcm_sata
 ./kernel/drv/bnx
 ./kernel/drv/bnx.conf
 ./kernel/drv/bnxe
 ./kernel/drv/bnxe.conf
 ./kernel/drv/cpqary3
 ./kernel/drv/cpqary3.conf
 ./kernel/drv/glm
 ./kernel/drv/glm.conf
 ./kernel/drv/intel_nhmex
 ./kernel/drv/intel_nhmex.conf
 ./kernel/drv/iprb
 ./kernel/drv/ixgb
 ./kernel/drv/lsimega
 ./kernel/drv/lsimega.conf
 ./kernel/drv/marvell88sx
 ./kernel/drv/mpt
 ./kernel/drv/mpt.conf
 ./kernel/drv/ncrs
 ./kernel/drv/ncrs.conf
 ./kernel/drv/pcn
 ./kernel/drv/pcser
 ./kernel/drv/sdpib
 ./kernel/drv/sdpib.conf
 ./kernel/drv/usbser_edge
 ./kernel/drv/usbser_edge.conf
 ./kernel/kmdb/amd64/mpt
 ./kernel/kmdb/amd64/nfs
 ./kernel/kmdb/mpt
 ./kernel/kmdb/nfs
 ./kernel/misc/amd64/klmmod
 ./kernel/misc/amd64/klmops
 ./kernel/misc/klmmod
 ./kernel/misc/klmops
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/amd64/scsi_vhci_f_asym_emc
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/amd64/scsi_vhci_f_asym_lsi
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/amd64/scsi_vhci_f_sym_emc
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/scsi_vhci_f_asym_emc
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/scsi_vhci_f_asym_lsi
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/scsi_vhci_f_sym_emc
 ./kernel/strmod/amd64/sdpib
 ./kernel/strmod/sdpib
 ./lib/amd64/libc_i18n.a
 ./lib/crypto/kcfd
 ./lib/libc_i18n.a
 ./platform/i86pc/kernel/cpu/amd64/cpu_ms.GenuineIntel.6.46
 ./platform/i86pc/kernel/cpu/cpu_ms.GenuineIntel.6.46
 ./usr/bin/iconv
 ./usr/bin/kbdcomp
 ./usr/bin/localedef
 ./usr/bin/od
 ./usr/bin/pax
 ./usr/bin/printf
 ./usr/bin/sed
 ./usr/bin/tail
 ./usr/bin/tr
 ./usr/has/bin/patch
 ./usr/include/sys/lc_core.h
 ./usr/include/sys/localedef.h
 ./usr/kernel/drv/amd64/llc2
 ./usr/kernel/drv/llc2
 ./usr/kernel/drv/llc2.conf
 ./usr/lib/amd64/libike.so
 ./usr/lib/amd64/libike.so.1
 ./usr/lib/amd64/llib-like.ln
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/ses-LSILOGIC.so
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/ses-SUN.so
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/sgen-LSILOGIC.so
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/sgen-SUN.so
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646da.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646de.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646en.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646es.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646fr.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646it.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646sv.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646da.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646de.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646en.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646es.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646fr.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646it.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646sv.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/iconv_data
 ./usr/lib/inet/amd64/in.iked
 ./usr/lib/inet/certdb
 ./usr/lib/inet/certlocal
 ./usr/lib/inet/certrldb
 ./usr/lib/inet/i86/in.iked
 ./usr/lib/inet/in.iked
 ./usr/lib/labeld
 ./usr/lib/libike.so
 ./usr/lib/libike.so.1
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_autoconfig
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_config
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_loop2
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_loop3
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_loop4
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_stats
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_tcap
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_tparser
 ./usr/lib/llib-like
 ./usr/lib/llib-like.ln
 ./usr/lib/locale/C/locale_description
 ./usr/lib/localedef/extensions/generic_eucbc.x
 ./usr/lib/localedef/extensions/single_byte.x
 ./usr/lib/localedef/src/iso_8859_1/charmap.src
 ./usr/lib/localedef/src/iso_8859_1/extension.src
 ./usr/lib/localedef/src/iso_8859_1/localedef.src
 ./usr/lib/locale/iso_8859_1/amd64/iso_8859_1.so.3
 ./usr/lib/locale/iso_8859_1/iso_8859_1.so.3
 ./usr/lib/locale/POSIX
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/amd64/mpt.so
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/amd64/nfs.so
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/mpt.so
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/nfs.so
 ./usr/lib/nfs/lockd
 ./usr/lib/raidcfg/amd64/mpt.so.1
 ./usr/lib/raidcfg/mpt.so.1
 ./usr/lib/snmp/mibiisa
 ./usr/sbin/chk_encodings
 ./usr/xpg4/bin/alias
 ./usr/xpg4/bin/bg
 ./usr/xpg4/bin/cd
 ./usr/xpg4/bin/command
 ./usr/xpg4/bin/fc
 

Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* bsd (mascotgr...@yahoo.com) wrote:
 Are you going to tell them to use 2009.06 since everything after that
 is broken?

Don't spread lies/FUD.  Everything after 2009.06 is *not* broken.  I've
run every single build between 2009.06 and 134 on my personal
workstations, laptops and some servers (as have pretty much the other
members of my group).  Since I work on OpenSolaris and need to be
running the dev bits to get real work done, it's pretty crucial that the
builds work (which they do).  They've all been usable to one degree or
another.  They certainly haven't hindered me in any way from doing
day-to-day development/desktop-type tasks.

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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Matthias Pfützner
I would not dare to answer a person. who identifies him/herself as
bsd... ;-)

Besides that: Glenn: 100% agree!

Matthias

You (Glenn Lagasse) wrote:
 * bsd (mascotgr...@yahoo.com) wrote:
  Are you going to tell them to use 2009.06 since everything after that
  is broken?
 
 Don't spread lies/FUD.  Everything after 2009.06 is *not* broken.  I've
 run every single build between 2009.06 and 134 on my personal
 workstations, laptops and some servers (as have pretty much the other
 members of my group).  Since I work on OpenSolaris and need to be
 running the dev bits to get real work done, it's pretty crucial that the
 builds work (which they do).  They've all been usable to one degree or
 another.  They certainly haven't hindered me in any way from doing
 day-to-day development/desktop-type tasks.
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Matthias Pfützner
That is an excellent idea, and, no, you don't need permission, just do it!

 Matthias

You (Matthew Nawrocki) wrote:
 Hello!
 
   I am really considering to give a talk about OpenSolaris at the Ohio Linux 
 Fest 2010. Would I need to get special approval for something like this or to 
 use the trademarks, etc.? Thoughts anyone?
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Jason King
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Svein Skogen sv...@stillbilde.net wrote:
 On 30.03.2010 20:44, Giovanni Tirloni wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:35 PM, bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com
 mailto:mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote:

     Out of curiosity, since OpenSolaris is mostly open binary licenses
     and not source code, what would happen if Oracle rescinded those
     licenses?


 The community would have to find replacements for these:

 ./etc/init.d/llc2
 ./etc/llc2/llc2_start.default
 ./etc/rc0.d/K52llc2
 ./etc/rc1.d/K52llc2
 ./etc/rc2.d/S40llc2
 ./etc/rcS.d/K52llc2
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.example
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.gfi.multi
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.gfi.single
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.multi
 ./etc/security/tsol/label_encodings.single
 ./etc/snmp/conf/mibiisa.reg
 ./etc/snmp/conf/snmpd.conf
 ./kernel/drv/acpi_toshiba
 ./kernel/drv/adpu320
 ./kernel/drv/adpu320.conf
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/acpi_toshiba
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/adpu320
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/atiatom
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/bcm_sata
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/bnx
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/bnxe
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/cpqary3
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/glm
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/intel_nhmex
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/iprb
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/ixgb
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/lsimega
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/marvell88sx
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/mpt
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/pcn
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/pcser
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/sdpib
 ./kernel/drv/amd64/usbser_edge
 ./kernel/drv/atiatom
 ./kernel/drv/bcm_sata
 ./kernel/drv/bnx
 ./kernel/drv/bnx.conf
 ./kernel/drv/bnxe
 ./kernel/drv/bnxe.conf
 ./kernel/drv/cpqary3
 ./kernel/drv/cpqary3.conf
 ./kernel/drv/glm
 ./kernel/drv/glm.conf
 ./kernel/drv/intel_nhmex
 ./kernel/drv/intel_nhmex.conf
 ./kernel/drv/iprb
 ./kernel/drv/ixgb
 ./kernel/drv/lsimega
 ./kernel/drv/lsimega.conf
 ./kernel/drv/marvell88sx
 ./kernel/drv/mpt
 ./kernel/drv/mpt.conf
 ./kernel/drv/ncrs
 ./kernel/drv/ncrs.conf
 ./kernel/drv/pcn
 ./kernel/drv/pcser
 ./kernel/drv/sdpib
 ./kernel/drv/sdpib.conf
 ./kernel/drv/usbser_edge
 ./kernel/drv/usbser_edge.conf
 ./kernel/kmdb/amd64/mpt
 ./kernel/kmdb/amd64/nfs
 ./kernel/kmdb/mpt
 ./kernel/kmdb/nfs
 ./kernel/misc/amd64/klmmod
 ./kernel/misc/amd64/klmops
 ./kernel/misc/klmmod
 ./kernel/misc/klmops
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/amd64/scsi_vhci_f_asym_emc
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/amd64/scsi_vhci_f_asym_lsi
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/amd64/scsi_vhci_f_sym_emc
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/scsi_vhci_f_asym_emc
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/scsi_vhci_f_asym_lsi
 ./kernel/misc/scsi_vhci/scsi_vhci_f_sym_emc
 ./kernel/strmod/amd64/sdpib
 ./kernel/strmod/sdpib
 ./lib/amd64/libc_i18n.a
 ./lib/crypto/kcfd
 ./lib/libc_i18n.a
 ./platform/i86pc/kernel/cpu/amd64/cpu_ms.GenuineIntel.6.46
 ./platform/i86pc/kernel/cpu/cpu_ms.GenuineIntel.6.46
 ./usr/bin/iconv
 ./usr/bin/kbdcomp
 ./usr/bin/localedef
 ./usr/bin/od
 ./usr/bin/pax
 ./usr/bin/printf
 ./usr/bin/sed
 ./usr/bin/tail
 ./usr/bin/tr
 ./usr/has/bin/patch
 ./usr/include/sys/lc_core.h
 ./usr/include/sys/localedef.h
 ./usr/kernel/drv/amd64/llc2
 ./usr/kernel/drv/llc2
 ./usr/kernel/drv/llc2.conf
 ./usr/lib/amd64/libike.so
 ./usr/lib/amd64/libike.so.1
 ./usr/lib/amd64/llib-like.ln
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/ses-LSILOGIC.so
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/ses-SUN.so
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/sgen-LSILOGIC.so
 ./usr/lib/fwflash/verify/sgen-SUN.so
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646da.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646de.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646en.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646es.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646fr.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646it.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/646sv.8859.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646da.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646de.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646en.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646es.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646fr.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646it.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646sv.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/8859.646.t
 ./usr/lib/iconv/iconv_data
 ./usr/lib/inet/amd64/in.iked
 ./usr/lib/inet/certdb
 ./usr/lib/inet/certlocal
 ./usr/lib/inet/certrldb
 ./usr/lib/inet/i86/in.iked
 ./usr/lib/inet/in.iked
 ./usr/lib/labeld
 ./usr/lib/libike.so
 ./usr/lib/libike.so.1
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_autoconfig
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_config
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_loop2
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_loop3
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_loop4
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_stats
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_tcap
 ./usr/lib/llc2/llc2_tparser
 ./usr/lib/llib-like
 ./usr/lib/llib-like.ln
 ./usr/lib/locale/C/locale_description
 ./usr/lib/localedef/extensions/generic_eucbc.x
 ./usr/lib/localedef/extensions/single_byte.x
 ./usr/lib/localedef/src/iso_8859_1/charmap.src
 ./usr/lib/localedef/src/iso_8859_1/extension.src
 ./usr/lib/localedef/src/iso_8859_1/localedef.src
 ./usr/lib/locale/iso_8859_1/amd64/iso_8859_1.so.3
 ./usr/lib/locale/iso_8859_1/iso_8859_1.so.3
 ./usr/lib/locale/POSIX
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/amd64/mpt.so
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/amd64/nfs.so
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/mpt.so
 ./usr/lib/mdb/kvm/nfs.so
 ./usr/lib/nfs/lockd
 ./usr/lib/raidcfg/amd64/mpt.so.1
 ./usr/lib/raidcfg/mpt.so.1
 ./usr/lib/snmp/mibiisa
 ./usr/sbin/chk_encodings
 ./usr/xpg4/bin/alias
 ./usr/xpg4/bin/bg
 

Re: [osol-discuss] Need a comprehensive subversion tutorial

2010-03-30 Thread Erik Trimble

jayson jamandra wrote:

Good day guys. I want to know if there are any step by step tutorials in 
implementing/installing/using subversion in opensolaris. What i need is from 
installation up to usage of subversion. thanks. BTW, Iam using tomcat server.
  
Frankly, it's no different than using it on Linux, other than the method 
of installation.


OpenSolaris uses the 'pkg' format, rather than the common *.deb or *.rpm 
formats found in most linux distros, to distribute subversion.


You can install subversion using the 'packagemanager' GUI, which will 
install it from the main software repositories.


Other than the method of installation, it is used in the normal manner.  
Try using Google for several of the very helpful HOWTO and documentation 
sites for Subversion.



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Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Yeah... replacing the legally encumbered bits over time isn't that much of a 
stretch. What matters is that the kernel is open-source (which is the heart of 
the OS and is the part that makes it stand out apart from Linux and BSD).

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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
bsdfan... trolling is counterintuitive to our mission. Also, OpenSolaris is 
quite excellent even in the dev channel in terms of stability and whatnot. I 
think you were hired by Beastie to be the rile-master. :p
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Ok... I just submitted my proposal to the Ohio Linux 2010 website and I await 
approval. Wish me luck. :)

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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread bsd
I used OpenSolaris from the beginning until build 129.  After that I had 
problems so I decided not to pursue OpenSolaris any longer.

I was an advocate until I dropped it.  I do with you luck though.  There are 
nice things in it that would serve people well.
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Will Fiveash
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:23:55AM -0700, Matthew Nawrocki wrote:
 Hello!
 
   I am really considering to give a talk about OpenSolaris at the Ohio Linux 
 Fest 2010. Would I need to get special approval for something like this or to 
 use the trademarks, etc.? Thoughts anyone?
 

You may want to get your talk reviewed here prior to the event to make
sure it's accurate.

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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Viskovatoff
If you are a BSD fan, why are you lurking here, instead of spending time on BSD 
forums, where you might stand a chance of making a useful contribution?

It's well known that there are BSD zealots out there who feel threatened by 
OpenSolaris and so make a habit of belittling it, so you are not providing 
anyone with any new information with your posts.

On the Arch Linux forums, for example, of all OS fanboys, the BSD'ers have the 
reputation of being the most fanatical.
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Will...

I did not submit any real details yet. I just submitted a brief summary stating 
an idea of what I am to give a talk on. I can always narrow the focus and (if 
accepted) I will present more details at a later time, however I was limited to 
500 characters and I wanted to give a good idea of what platform I was shooting 
for...
 
Brief Description:
OpenSolaris is a cutting edge operating system from Oracle and the community 
that brings the Solaris OS into the modern era with new technologies. ZFS, 
DTrace and Crossbow are a few of the excellent OpenSolaris technologies that 
will be brought to light as well as a brief overview of the project and why 
UNIX is still relevant today, even with Linux being the main player in the 
desktop and server OS markets.
 
Once it is time to actually work on the presentation itself, I will definitely 
run it by the community to be sure it is correct. Thanks!
 
Matt
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Ben
IMO, SMF is a HUGE plus for OpenSolaris too, I always mention it when talking 
about the OS.  It really simplifies things after getting your head around the 
manifests, and it really brings UNIX into the 21st century, it's great to see 
(Open)Solaris achieving that.
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread bsd
Apparently you can't read that I used OpenSolaris since its inception, until 
recently.  It doesn't mean since I don't currently use it that I can't and 
don't follow the project.

Also, you're wrong on the zealots.  That's Linux folk.
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread bsd
AIX has had the System Resource Controller (srcmstr) probably since it came 
into being (at least since I've used AIX from 4.x forward) and SMF is similar 
to srcmstr.
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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Gary Gendel
And Zones...  The list goes on and on.  Stick to what you feel comfortable and 
good luck.

Gary
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Re: [osol-discuss] ConsoleKit/gdm not detecting Xvnc failure

2010-03-30 Thread halton
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 02:12 -0700, Lee Essen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm using snv_134 and I've managed to get the VNC 'display' working nicely 
 within ConsoleKit, but I have noticed that if Xvnc dies (which it does if you 
 hit the shift-key bug) then it doesn't get restarted.
 
 If I disable and then re-enable consolekit then it starts back up again.
 
 I can't see anything in any logs that might help.
 
 Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?
Could you let me know how you start Xvnc?
So far, there are two ways to do that.
1) Add a VNC seat as described in example 4 of console-kit-daemon(1m).
2) Enable XDMCP in /etc/gdm/custom.conf and xvnc-inetd service

And could you add Enable=true under section [debug] in
file /etc/gdm/custom.conf. Restart gdm and let me know any useful
message in /var/adm/message.
 
 BTW -- with a completely standard snv_134 build Xvnc doesn't seem to work 
 with console kit because of compiz ... I have added -extension Composite to 
 get everything working.
This is know issue,
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=9891

Cheers,
Halton.


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Re: [osol-discuss] An idea for spreading the word

2010-03-30 Thread Alex Viskovatoff
And Linux-Branded Zones in particular.

If you want to demonstrate Linux running in a Solaris Zone to a bunch of Linux 
users, you might find this of interest: 
[url=http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Installing_Arch_Linux_in_a_branded_zone]Installing
 Arch Linux in a branded zone[/url].

From some reason, the official page on the Linux 2.6 brand discusses Ubuntu, 
even though the same page admits that Ubuntu is mostly broken under Brandz. 
Arch Linux isn't: as far as I've been able to discover, anything that's broken 
under Arch in a zone is broken in Linux 2.6 in a zone in general.
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