[osol-discuss] idmapd on snv_134

2011-02-21 Thread Daniel Taylor
Hello,

I've been having a few problems with idmapd on OS snv_134, after a day or so of 
6+ users saving and fetching fils via CIFS if likes to leak memory at a 
ridiculous rate.

It get's to the point where it will lock me out of the machine (ssh etc.) and I 
have to kill the power and restart it. 

I currently have a cron job to restart the service every 15 minutes, but still, 
on occasion it 'crashes'.

I've seen the problem mentioned a few times. but the fix just seems to be 
restart it with a cron. Can anyone give a better solution? 

Thanks!
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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Erik Trimble

On 2/20/2011 6:09 PM, Ian Collins wrote:

 On 02/21/11 02:43 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

Claus Assmann
opensolaris+disc...@esmtp.org  writes:


On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Harry Putnam wrote:


ASUS M4A88TD-M /USB3,AMD 880G, Onboard Video

That's basically the same what I use.
ASUS M4A88TD-M, DDR3 RAM, 1333, ECC (KVR1333D3E9SK2/4G)

Ahh great... good to hear from someone who speaks from experience.  So
at least we know ECC is available for that board.  Still not sure how
to get the builders to use that but I suspect I'll have to track them
down and get an oral promise.

But anyway there turns out to be a drawback with that one too, in that
it's kind of weak in the expansion slots:

   1 x PCIe 2.0 x16
   2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
   1 x PCI

But I found another one on this builders list that appears to have ECC
and better expansion slots:

Unless Ian C. is right about ECC, then this board has the same
notation as the other one:


All I said was if they don't say ECC is supported, it isn't!  In this 
case, they do.





Actually, most sites lie to you about ECC support for socket AM3 
motherboards.


You need to look at the Manufacturer's site, and get the manual for the 
actual motherboard model.


ALL Athlon/Phenom CPUs support ECC RAM (it's a function of the memory 
controller built into the CPU), and unless the motherboard manufacturer 
does something really, really stupid, the motherboard will to.  In fact, 
the MB manufacturer has to go out of their way to break ECC support - 
it's cheaper just to leave things be, and support ECC, than it is to NOT 
support ECC on an AM3 motherboard.


The catch here is that they support BOTH ECC and non-ECC RAM, so most 
sites see the supports non-ECC and assume it doesn't also support ECC 
(Intel still has an either/or requirement, while AMD can do both).



For Socket AM3 motherboards, you want unbuffered, non-registered ECC.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Orvar Korvar
Eric,
Intel Sandybridge, does it support ECC? I heard that Intel does not allow 
hardware targeted to home users support ECC. Only server stuff supports ECC.

Ive heard. Do you know anything about Intel stuff in general?
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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread John Martin

On 02/21/11 09:56 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:

Eric,
Intel Sandybridge, does it support ECC? I heard that Intel does not allow 
hardware targeted to home users support ECC. Only server stuff supports ECC.


http://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/

The eVGA X58 motherboards allow Xeon CPUs with ECC memory.
I believe the Mac Pro also uses Xeon with ECC.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Gary Driggs
On Feb 21, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:
 Intel Sandybridge, does it support ECC?

Yes but not in every processor...
http://embedded.communities.intel.com/community/en/rovingreporter/blog/2010/12/14/roving-reporter-sandy-bridge-features-will-match-embedded-application-requirements
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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Claus Assmann
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Harry Putnam wrote:

  ASUS M4A88TD-M, DDR3 RAM, 1333, ECC (KVR1333D3E9SK2/4G)

 But anyway there turns out to be a drawback with that one too, in that
 it's kind of weak in the expansion slots:

Get the full-sized version (not -M: Micro), it has more expansion
slots.

  It works pretty well except for the onboard graphics -- see
  the mailing list for my questions about it.

 I wondered about that onboard video... 
 Which mailing list do you mean, an asus list?

This list,
Message-ID: 20101215022203.ga8...@quiet.esmtp.org

 PS - Is this the same Claus who over the years has answered many of my
 sendmail questions too?

Probably.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Erik Trimble

On 2/21/2011 8:37 AM, Gary Driggs wrote:

On Feb 21, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Orvar Korvar wrote:

Intel Sandybridge, does it support ECC?

Yes but not in every processor...
http://embedded.communities.intel.com/community/en/rovingreporter/blog/2010/12/14/roving-reporter-sandy-bridge-features-will-match-embedded-application-requirements
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Here's how Intel does product differentiation:

If the product is an iN something or other (e.g. i3/i5/i7 or the 
like), regardless of the underlying architecture, the memory controller 
DOES NOT support ECC.


If the product is labeled Xeon something or other, it DOES support ECC.

Remember that Sandy Bridge is a new microarchitecture design, so there 
will be multiple different CPU lines coming out using it.  There will be 
i7, Xeon 5000-series, and Xeon 7000-series CPUs using the Sandy Bridge 
microarchitecture.  The exact features of each vary (you'll have to look 
at Intel's site for more info. I prefer to use http://ark.intel.com )


So, may very well have a case where a specific Intel motherboard will 
support both a i7 and Xeon CPU, but only be able to use ECC with the Xeon.




All this is a side effect of moving the memory controller into the CPU 
die, and out of the Northbridge chipset.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com writes:

 Unless Ian C. is right about ECC, then this board has the same
 notation as the other one:

 All I said was if they don't say ECC is supported, it isn't!  In this
 case, they do.

Ian, I'm the source of the problem on this.

Your earlier comment was made about a board that says the exact same
thing as the board referred to in my para above.

So I thought you were saying that even though there is some comment
about ECC, doesn't mean they actually support it.

But the rub comes in that on that earlier message you were responding
to the first time, I put the WRONG URL for that board, so if you
looked at that URL thinking it was the board I meant... then on that
board there is no mention of ECC

,
| From previous post:
| Message-ID: 87k4gus568@newsguy.com
| 
| That helped find something on the build list:
| 
| ASUS M4A88TD-M /USB3,AMD 880G, Onboard Video 
| 
| http://magicmicro.com/debay.asp?iid=3674
| 
| But it still specifies unbuffered.  Does that matter so much.
`

I cited an Asus board but the URL below it is an MSI board.

Sorry to confuse things.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
Claus Assmann
opensolaris+disc...@esmtp.org writes:

 On Sun, Feb 20, 2011, Harry Putnam wrote:

  ASUS M4A88TD-M, DDR3 RAM, 1333, ECC (KVR1333D3E9SK2/4G)

 But anyway there turns out to be a drawback with that one too, in that
 it's kind of weak in the expansion slots:

 Get the full-sized version (not -M: Micro), it has more expansion
 slots.

  It works pretty well except for the onboard graphics -- see
  the mailing list for my questions about it.

 I wondered about that onboard video... 
 Which mailing list do you mean, an asus list?

 This list,
 Message-ID: 20101215022203.ga8...@quiet.esmtp.org

Oh, I see it now. The thread ends  December 22nd... did you find out
if it was the builtin Graphics for sure since then?

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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread ken mays
Haryy,

ECC RAM is a 'nice to have' if this is a PRO server - but not critical for home 
use/SOHO use.

The main thing to consider is you can build a very good dedicated NAS server 
for around $800 USD that can provide you with up to 8TB-12TB w/2TB drives). 

If you have a good computer builder, they can design you something very nice 
within a decent price range scalable up to 8TB-12TB (most designs) and
small enough in a mini-tower. You should not have to spend over $1000 for a 
good design with high-quality customized parts for just a ZFS NAS server in 
today's market. 

You can spend less with a dedicated predesigned commercial unit...

~ Ken Mays



--- On Mon, 2/21/11, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:

 From: Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com
 Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post
 To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
 Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 3:29 PM
 Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com
 writes:
 
  Unless Ian C. is right about ECC, then this board
 has the same
  notation as the other one:
 
  All I said was if they don't say ECC is supported, it
 isn't!  In this
  case, they do.
 
 Ian, I'm the source of the problem on this.
 
 Your earlier comment was made about a board that says the
 exact same
 thing as the board referred to in my para above.
 
 So I thought you were saying that even though there is some
 comment
 about ECC, doesn't mean they actually support it.
 
 But the rub comes in that on that earlier message you were
 responding
 to the first time, I put the WRONG URL for that board, so
 if you
 looked at that URL thinking it was the board I meant...
 then on that
 board there is no mention of ECC
 
 ,
 | From previous post:
 | Message-ID: 87k4gus568@newsguy.com
 | 
 | That helped find something on the build list:
 | 
 | ASUS M4A88TD-M /USB3,AMD 880G, Onboard Video 
 | 
 | http://magicmicro.com/debay.asp?iid=3674
 | 
 | But it still specifies unbuffered.  Does that matter
 so much.
 `
 
 I cited an Asus board but the URL below it is an MSI
 board.
 
 Sorry to confuse things.
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Harry Putnam
ken mays maybird1...@yahoo.com writes:

 Haryy,

 ECC RAM is a 'nice to have' if this is a PRO server - but not critical for 
 home use/SOHO use.

 The main thing to consider is you can build a very good dedicated NAS
 server for around $800 USD that can provide you with up to 8TB-12TB
 w/2TB drives).

 If you have a good computer builder, they can design you something
 very nice within a decent price range scalable up to 8TB-12TB (most
 designs) and
 small enough in a mini-tower. You should not have to spend over $1000
 for a good design with high-quality customized parts for just a ZFS
 NAS server in today's market.

Do you have any ideas how to connect with such a builder?

So far, I've only looked at a couple of those build it online type
sites where they allow you to pick parts from a list they have.

The one where I quoted the price 1300+ was found on ebay called
magic-micro.  I have no connection with them or any special reason to
think they are particularly `good', its just one that I found by
accidentally scrolling further down a ebay page than usual and happend
to notice a `Customize it' link.

And I gradually gravitated toward the higher end stuff, as my eyes got
bigger :). They had plenty of various brand amd quads too, not just
the 6 core phenom setup I picked.

I would really like to hear from someone with personal experience with
a builder available on line that would be knowledgeable of solaris and
zfs and the necessary hardware.
 
 You can spend less with a dedicated predesigned commercial unit...

Can you name a few?



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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Ian Collins

 On 02/22/11 11:11 AM, ken mays wrote:

Haryy,

ECC RAM is a 'nice to have' if this is a PRO server - but not critical for home 
use/SOHO use.

The picture is different for a ZFS server.  Lesser filesystems will 
silently ignore corruptions cased by a memory error.  ZFS will not.


If your data has any value, the small additional cost of ECC RAM is 
cheap insurance!


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Re: [osol-discuss] Another [OT] Hardware Post

2011-02-21 Thread Gary
Harry Putnam wrote:
 You can spend less with a dedicated predesigned commercial unit...
 Can you name a few?

I didn't catch how many drives you said you needed. And was it this
thread that I already responded to -- have you looked at the HP
Proliant Microserver (N36L)? It holds four drives, up to 8Gb ECC RAM,
and has very low power consumption. And there's no assembly required
except for buying the bard drives and installing them on the sleds. I
think this would be an ideal small/home office server. Just remember
that you won't need to configure the RAID controller because that'll
be taken care of by ZFS.

-Gary
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